WoD The Heck: Changeling the Dreaming
Added 2016-05-06 21:21:31 +0000 UTCShaun, Faust, and I discuss the winner of the White Wolf "One thing is not like the others" contest, Changeling the Dreaming. Learn about fancy points, how rational flat earthers are, and how many types of dreaming there are. Faust gained several points of banality from this episode, so enjoy!
Music: catacombs by Chinese Hackers.
Comments
Dude Old World Changeling is garbage. It should be New World Changeling too force Caleb too run
DiploRaptor(Samuel)
2017-10-09 08:42:14 +0000 UTCOn anti-vaxxers and changelings: I'm with Ross on this one. Most anti-vaxxers believe that they are special (asking the right questions/more skeptical) or that the government/big medicine has no right to tell them what's going on with their body. This is part of the reason that pointing out the need for "herd immunity*" doesn't do much to convince anti-vaxxers. They (or more commonly, their kids) aren't part of this common herd you're talking about. * The idea that at least 85-90% of a population should be vaccinated against a disease to protect those who can't be, either because they are immunocompromised or because the vaccine doesn't work well for them. To me it's more about what they believe than how they act, though, which seems to be one of the sticking points on the banal/not-banal discussion. Faust nailed it: it seems like there's no intuitive way to identify what's banal and what isn't. That just leaves you with arguments. I think that comes down to a big part of Changeling: the Dreaming's weakness. It wants to be a game about keeping your imagination alive in the face of soul-crushing responsibilities of adult life. (Is Arcadia retirement?) But when it doesn't work (and almost every story I ever heard about it) it's like fishmalk paradise. Whereas, even when Vampire misses the intended tone and becomes "superheroes with fangs" - that can still be pretty fun for a while. Shaun had commendable patience in explaining a game that is often maligned, especially by WoD fans. His comment about how C:tD is a little too on-the-nose similar to playing RPGs was spot-on, too. (Also, early Bedlam sounds a bit like Promethean's disquiet.) Also, kuei-jin are wraiths?! What? I feel like I know too much about the WoD but there's always so many more weird obscure layers to it. Portraying anti-psychotic drugs as pure banality seems ... bad taste at best and irresponsible at worst.
Ken Ringwald
2016-05-16 17:48:51 +0000 UTCI would agree that there are absolutely parallels to be drawn, but I'm pretty sure their dogged adherence to the ideology would be some form of banality in and of itself. Though, as was pointed out in the episode, what makes for banality is indeed something of a subjective opinion. WoD the heck, eh? And thanks! The Wizened are a pretty great archetype to play with. I figured the aged victorian era butler who's uncannily stealthy and shows up, creepily unannounced, with just the thing you wanted/needed would be a pretty cool baseline for a Wizened to start off with.
Scribbleykins
2016-05-09 21:19:10 +0000 UTCI can see your point, but if you read the narratives of anti-vaccers, it does map onto Changeling pretty well - in their minds they are fighting a massive soul-crushing institution (the health care industry) and are the only enlightened people that fight against it. Changeling does literally portray some medications as banality incarnate - they just focus on anti-psychotic meds rather than vaccines. I also really dig Changeling the Lost and would like to explore that game more. It had a better narrative focus IMO. However, Caleb is probably only going to approach it in another system. I dig the art! Looks like a cool idea for a PC.
Ross Payton
2016-05-09 20:19:37 +0000 UTCSorry Ross, I'm with Shaun; anti-vaccers, though bucking the norm, are hardly the best example to pull out as paragons of inspirational non-conformity. Now, I've not had a whole lot of experience with the game line, but the one (glorious) one-shot and occasional forum Play By Post attempts that I've had with Changeling 3rd Ed has shown a great deal of marvelous potential in the hands of a canny GM and players that enjoy getting into character. If you guys ever somehow persuaded Caleb to run a game of Changeling for an RPPR crew that wanted to go in whole hog on creating changeling characters, backstories ripe with plot hooks and all, I'm pretty sure he'd be able to bring the full scope of fey horror to bear. Also, if there ever was a game for making Rossian bargains happen, Changeling has to fit that bill. It can be wheelin' and dealin' all the way down! Admission: I once commissioned changeling character art. Turned out pretty sweet, actually! <a href="http://www.deviantart.com/art/Jahn-Daugh-199482934" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://www.deviantart.com/art/Jahn-Daugh-199482934</a>
Scribbleykins
2016-05-09 18:32:20 +0000 UTC"Changeling combat is 2 guys in a field play fighting. It looks awesome and epic to them but otherwise..." So is Akibaranger just "Changeling the Sentai"?
Al Dente Rigamortis
2016-05-09 02:30:31 +0000 UTCPosted too early in the day. The amount of effort you put in to arguing for Antivaxxers. The flagburners gain significant charges by messing with people. I could be wrong though.
Adam Makey
2016-05-07 18:59:24 +0000 UTCI don't remember that part. Could you explain that?
Ross Payton
2016-05-07 18:27:04 +0000 UTCChangeling is crazy and this was still an interesting listen.
Adam Makey
2016-05-07 09:54:09 +0000 UTCAnd now I understand Caleb's Flagburner comment in the UA interview. Kind of hard to listen to that part.
Adam Makey
2016-05-07 09:53:33 +0000 UTC
