BONUS EPISODE: The Battle of Eniwetok
Added 2025-09-02 22:01:00 +0000 UTCIn 1942 the US Pacific campaign wound up creating the circumstances for a tank engagement on a tiny atoll in the middle of the ocean. It was the origin of the expression 'the two-thousand yard stare,' a battle that probably didn't need to happen but still wound up happening, and it involved a lot of carnage amid exactly zero shade. So, of course we were going to talk about it.
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Gordan Rottman. Gerrard Howard. The Marshall Islands 1944: Operation Flintlock, the capture of Kwajalein and Eniwetok.
https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/article/hellish-battle-in-a-tropical-paradise/
https://www.thoughtco.com/battle-of-eniwetok-2360455
https://time.com/3878845/world-war-ii-rare-and-classic-photos-from-eniwetok-atoll/
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In honour of this podcast; next time I'm playing with my ferrets and I'm throwing them around I'm going to yell "FRAG OUT"
Daniel "Limey-boy" McCouid-Carr
2025-10-24 15:16:44 +0000 UTCNY national guard took Amtrak to the fight
Adam F
2025-10-05 21:19:25 +0000 UTCSmall correction: the island was likely called tea color island in Japanese
Thomas Dudley
2025-09-30 14:38:51 +0000 UTCI'm just here for the military working ferrets.
Dan A
2025-09-10 16:09:45 +0000 UTCMy grandfather was there as a Marine riflemen, never once talked about it and we only found out after he passed when we found his Purple Heart.
Troy Stull
2025-09-08 15:37:15 +0000 UTCOne of those nose art style pieces with a helmeted ferret chomping a cigar and gripping a m2 nozzle in enormous jacked arms. "Ferret 'em out!"
Nadie Southpaw
2025-09-05 18:16:38 +0000 UTCThis is one of my favorite episodes now. 1) For Joe having the correct take on The Pacific (it is better than Band of Brothers) and 2) Nate mentioning Primus. I helped teach a "WW2 in film and lit" course at my college and I remember saying I thought The Pacific was better and there was an audible gasp that rose up from the other geeks in the classroom.
Brandon P
2025-09-05 08:45:10 +0000 UTCI like this idea a lot but I feel like if both have identical forces the Joes will just get smoked every time. What if instead of having identical armies the Joes have like, a modern infantry company of their choosing and the Pros have like, a full army that they used historically?
Brandon P
2025-09-05 07:22:41 +0000 UTCThe guy who does the perforating isn't the same guy as Steamboat Willie, but the guy who Upham warcrimes at the end to complete his character arc IS Steamboat Willie. You are misconstruing a factoid you heard elsewhere about Steamboat Willie not doing the slow-poking. Why would the guy who just did that bring up the fact that he learned his name because Upham was a coward? What, is Upham a Jinn - if you learn his TRUE name that means he has to let you go? That makes no sense.
Brandon P
2025-09-05 07:20:16 +0000 UTCYoooo! Love me a PTO episode. Have they covered Buna-Gona yet? Or the land battle of Leyte with the Japanese paratroopers jumping into the HQ of the 11th Airborne and GI's getting crushed by their own supply drops?
Brandon P
2025-09-05 07:14:01 +0000 UTCHoly shit, I remember hearing a bit about this before, it’s crazy how many apocalyptic prophecies the Spanish, UK, and US empires have indirectly fulfilled or seemed to fulfill in their colonial bullshitery, almost like the caused so much destruction that the pain radiated throughout all of time and we’ve always been being warned and warning ourselves about ourselves… fuck, circular times indeed.
Sam Blackman
2025-09-05 04:55:38 +0000 UTCThe guy in the episode art looks like he just took a hit off a 420mm mortar tbh… lmfao
Sam Blackman
2025-09-05 04:51:23 +0000 UTC420mm mortars exist, and they look like the designer was compensating.
Jonathan Grafton
2025-09-05 01:59:11 +0000 UTCI’d love to hear an episode about the predominantly Hispanic and highly decorated 141st infantry regiment in ww2
Jake Fuentes
2025-09-04 16:59:45 +0000 UTC1) corn comes from approx the Tehuantepec Isthmus, it started as teozontle, a hardly-seed-bearing grass with a relatively sweet stalk . The current theory is that it was being bred for the sugary sap (like sugarcane) for alcohol production but suddenly grains? HFCS is the fulfillment of prophecy 2) your corn shankings end up in Xipe Totec, the flayed god who robes himself in the fresh skin of his sacrifices, lord of agriculture & circular time, territory
Gil the Gilded Dragon
2025-09-04 16:16:12 +0000 UTCNate, not ever seeing the Pacific is insane
Teeheemcweewee
2025-09-04 14:02:03 +0000 UTC2 main reasons why Japanese tanks were so relatively bad - navy had dibs on most of the metal - were designed almost exclusively to be used as infantry support in China where opposing armour was rare
Mildly invested
2025-09-04 05:33:20 +0000 UTCThe tangent on Berserk inspired me to watch the 1997 golden age arc today and oh my god
Sebastian Kogler
2025-09-04 04:19:57 +0000 UTCJoe I love you but , I am working in the Marshall Islands and it’s pronounced “E- wuh - Knee - tok”
Pat
2025-09-03 23:59:16 +0000 UTCLoved the ferret tangent, very accurate to how my two behave.
Harrison Stratford
2025-09-03 23:13:22 +0000 UTCThe Hanson Brothers!!
Snorks
2025-09-03 23:01:29 +0000 UTCI honestly own a tshirt of Stevie Nicks death glaring at Lindsey Buckingham while singing Silver Springs
Loquin Britton-Herndon
2025-09-03 21:58:38 +0000 UTCNebraskan and yes, my limit break is 🌽🤌
Brode Bullington
2025-09-03 19:04:09 +0000 UTCOK I love Nate but I gotta get after him about 'Saving Private Ryan.' The "Steamboat Willie" Nazi prisoner guy that Upham lets go, and the SS super soldier that he kills at the end of the movie are two different guys! They're credited as two different actors in the credits - they just look way too alike with the same hair color and haircut, which is a big mistake. The SS guy at the end knows Upham's face from the encounter on the stairs, and knows his name because the other GI was yelling for him by name.
Bobbie Fiasco
2025-09-03 18:37:17 +0000 UTCNot sure if this is the right place but finally thought of a good question from the legion topic. Imagine you are the producers of the new hit Spike TV Show Pros Vs Joes Military General edition. Similar the original show, you get to pit random American dudes (probably failed ROTC candidates) vs any general from history in a battle of equal armies. For example, if you picked Rob from Toledo against Napoleon, they both get an identical field army. What generals are you choosing?
Bry F
2025-09-03 14:37:23 +0000 UTCAlso, if you haven't seen Slapshot with Paul Newman I would highly suggest it. He plays a player coach for a pro hockey team stuck in a dying town due to the factory closing. So he's trying to save the city by making the team a draw. It also has the hanson triplets. Don't watch slapshot 3. It has Stephan Baldwin in it. Just don't.
Animal Crossing Sovereign Citizen
2025-09-03 14:14:24 +0000 UTCwe talk about that in the episode
Lions Led By Donkeys Podcast
2025-09-03 14:06:05 +0000 UTCI can't help but to think that the only reason why Gen. Patton liked the smell of napalm in the morning because it counter reacted the smell of B.O, shit, decomposing bodies and dry jizz in the spider holes
Animal Crossing Sovereign Citizen
2025-09-03 14:04:32 +0000 UTCSad tidbit - dude in this photo was killed like a month later on some other island.
ChipotleAway
2025-09-03 13:31:49 +0000 UTCFun Kentaro Miura fact: The Black Sworsdman Arc of Berserk (the introductory one the original anime adaptation was based on) was originally supposed to be "Fantasy Fist of the North Star," but when the author of FotNS retired the series, Miura and his editor decided "well, now that we don't need to compete, let's do something a little more complex" and that's why The Golden Age Arc happened.
Em Gravesong
2025-09-03 13:26:00 +0000 UTC"No other podcasts, yet"? Subtle drop of a new podcast in the zoo crew universe? 🤔🤔🤔
Mordred Hansen
2025-09-03 13:18:03 +0000 UTCI'd say my favorite diss track would have to be How Do You Sleep by John Lennon, George Harrison, and Ringo Starr. Two guesses about who it's about.
theoneGalen
2025-09-03 13:12:38 +0000 UTCBest WWII Looney Tune is the episode where Daffy Duck has to dodge the draft.
David Schuller
2025-09-03 12:17:34 +0000 UTC1) The Japanese air doctrine didn't just use airfields as a local entity. Each island airfield was supposed to support the other. They were supposed to do recon for each other. They were supposed to fight together. Supply each other Each was a link on a chain for moving aircraft and pilots in response to threats or demands.
Noblesse Oblahaj
2025-09-03 11:48:29 +0000 UTCThere are a lot of different reasons why the US island campaign didn't just bypass a lot of islands I am not a scholar and I have the flu, but I will put some of those reasons here in a thread folks can pop out if they want
Noblesse Oblahaj
2025-09-03 11:44:50 +0000 UTCI really, really want Joe and Nate to be on Kill James Bond when they discuss Fury. If you wanna talk about fascist war movies.
Noblesse Oblahaj
2025-09-03 11:23:34 +0000 UTCNate talking about how hot Paul Newnan was in his prime just reminded me of the apocryphal story (that admittedly reads like a fanfic) where Eartha Kitt teaches Paul Newman and James Dean how to dance and it resulted in a threesome. I have never panicked more bisexually or wanted a story to be true more in my life.
Page Chase
2025-09-03 10:35:01 +0000 UTCI joined a ship in Diego, thinking it was going straight back to the US for shipyard. I was mistaken. Ended up spending six months there. My sanity was hanging on by a thread
Tristan
2025-09-03 08:14:24 +0000 UTCthe funniest part about dance gavin dance is that almost nobody in their hometown of sacramento even knows who they are, they regularly do like aftershock (the big festival here) but like they never headline it, theyre overshadowed by the deftones
Emma Anarchee
2025-09-03 03:50:19 +0000 UTCGrant and Sherman looking up from hell nodding appreciatively.
Jsuman
2025-09-03 03:17:07 +0000 UTCCornibalism
Hammerthrust Von Sexron
2025-09-03 02:36:59 +0000 UTCIan Toll's Pacific War trilogy is a good read not just for the boat stuff, but because you get a sense of why different branches of the US military evolved to fight the way they did throughout the war on land, sea, and air, and in relation to each other. The army would fight quite differently than the marines, for instance. Whereas the Marines would rely on aggression and airpower, the army was- different. Almost more engineering than firepower. They'd build roads to better haul artillery and supply advances. They built *pipelines* across islands not to supply vehicles, but to pump gasoline into caves and bunkers where Japanese troops dug in. One Japanese army officer likened the way the US army fought to 'industrial extermination'. It became a cold, calculated exercise of brutality.
Noblesse Oblahaj
2025-09-03 00:52:14 +0000 UTCCarmel, IN is no longer homophobic and hasn’t been that way for sometime. They have a giant Pride festival every year.
Christopher Stuck
2025-09-03 00:32:04 +0000 UTCI would have loved to hear that Saving Private Ryan recording. The early episodes had a quality of their own and were hilarious. A couple of friends having drinks and shooting the shit. I understand you guys don't drink while recording anymore. Millennial mid life crisis and all. Still it would be funny if you brought back the chaos of the early days on some episodes.
Danilov Sto
2025-09-02 23:30:28 +0000 UTC17:00 first of all, Donald is Disney not Looney tunes. Second of all, Donald was having nightmares of being a Nazi In the end of the episode, he kisses the American flag and Statue of Liberty in his house, because he feared being a German and being under such strict regime. Also, Donald is a a E5 Buck Sergeant from the army. He was drafted and served for over 50 years in the US army (I think he may have got a few DUIs so he didn't reach a higher position)
Joseph Misinec
2025-09-02 22:30:44 +0000 UTCIsn’t this the picture on the cover of Dave Grossman’s “on killing” tract? Also, as someone who grew up with ferrets, the idea of combat ferrets with flamethrowers is fucking hilarious.
Matt
2025-09-02 22:22:51 +0000 UTCneverrrrr
Drakkalen
2025-09-02 22:03:53 +0000 UTCShould I be embarrassed to be here within a minute?
Rhiannon Capri
2025-09-02 22:02:45 +0000 UTC
