EARLY EPISODE: The Pastry War
Added 2025-05-18 19:12:30 +0000 UTCCome see us live in London June 22nd:
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A conflict breaks out between a newly independent Mexico and a newly back-to-having-kings France. It culminates in a small series of armed incursions and blockades in 1838-39. Did it start because of an aggrieved French baker? Did Napoleon’s armies advance the science of military optics because their commander wanted to look at feet? In this episode (the first one where Nate has researched, written, and hosted), we get to the bottom of the semi-apocryphal Pastry War.
Sources:
Atwater, James D.; Ruiz, Ramon Eduardo. "Out from Under: Benito Juárez and the Struggle for Mexican Independence." Doubleday: Garden City, N.Y., 1969.
Muñoz, Rafael Felipe. "Santa Anna, el dictador resplandeciente." Fondo de Cultura Económica: Mexico, 1982.
Penot, Jacques. "L'expansion commerciale française au Mexique et les causes du conflit franco-mexicain de 1838-1839." Bulletin Hispanique 75-1-2, 1973. pp. 169-201
Toussaint, Éric. "Le système dette : Histoire des dettes souveraines et de leur répudiation." Les Liens qui libèrent: Paris, 2017.
Comments
Also, “the sleepiest man” or “sleepier than Santa Ana”
Patrick Walsh
2025-07-13 14:58:01 +0000 UTCI’d wear a Mosquito shirt that says “We don’t have a navy, but we do have an Air Force” (interesting that autocorrect capitalized Air Force but not navy lol)
Patrick Walsh
2025-07-13 14:56:02 +0000 UTCNate did an awesome job I’d love more of these in the future! Plus it gives Joe a mini-break which I assume he spends working
Doug Buchanan
2025-05-23 22:02:59 +0000 UTCDid you mean AEW, or did both WWE and AEW have a prosthetic leg plot in the last couple weeks?
Marjorie Zeager
2025-05-22 18:38:28 +0000 UTCEmperor Maximilian joined the Bored Grape Shot Club
Noblesse Oblahaj
2025-05-21 12:16:13 +0000 UTCHuh, so that's why that famous French military officer was called Le Feet
Noblesse Oblahaj
2025-05-21 11:31:46 +0000 UTCThe Patreon RSS feed isn’t loading new episodes. Not just for LLBD, but all my Patreon podcasts.
Scott
2025-05-21 03:20:21 +0000 UTCGreat job Nate, awesome episode!
Graham M Lester
2025-05-20 20:57:05 +0000 UTCSame here. It looks like QAA had to contact Patreon support to fix their RSS feed. Hopefully one of the llbd folks can do the same.
TrainDoctor
2025-05-20 17:11:19 +0000 UTCHey ! I can't find this episode in my podcast app, is it just me ? Edit: Just checked my rss feed, this episode is not in it
Dkapps
2025-05-20 16:58:05 +0000 UTCDiscúlpeme compañero pero en el norte, lo icónico no es la Pilz, pero una cerveza que se paró de producir en Europa; la Vienna Lager. Los estilos que mas dominaron México son estilos austro-húngaros
Gil the Gilded Dragon
2025-05-20 15:22:13 +0000 UTCFrench-Mexican pastry anime with the Japanese is a WW2 drama, a Japanese-American citizen being relocated to Mexico City.
Gil the Gilded Dragon
2025-05-20 15:19:52 +0000 UTCEveryone hold on, Nate has the wheel for this one. Let's go!
Thomas Layton
2025-05-20 02:23:07 +0000 UTCFor a moment brain skipped & went Blind Poet not D'oh & was "Sing oh muse of the wrath of Fuck That Guy"
Gil the Gilded Dragon
2025-05-19 22:14:24 +0000 UTCOh I'm from one of those Europeanized music regions & by Europeanized you mean "accordion & polka" because like Vivaldi & shit won't get you killed (except during the terror) but the catterwauling of the accordion or concertina absolutely will. What is historically amusing is that these Germans & Frenchmen went to hide into the same wastes that Sephardic Jews had gone a-hiding in the 1500s fleeing the Veracruzan Inquisition.
Gil the Gilded Dragon
2025-05-19 22:11:23 +0000 UTCThe LLBD family car is a Homer, decked out like a jingle truck, with big slab elbows.
Preston Klein
2025-05-19 20:25:43 +0000 UTC“We are going to rebuild the pastry shop and Mexico is going to pay for it”
Eulaila
2025-05-19 19:11:04 +0000 UTCLosing a entire army in 15 minutes because you took a nap and refused to move your camp to safer ground
bossbear the rock
2025-05-19 17:21:36 +0000 UTCScrew giving a 10,000 puff vape to a 1800s settler. I’m making Santa Anna shotgun Four Loko’s.
William Shackelford
2025-05-19 14:02:12 +0000 UTCMexican Nate is definitely “Canelito”
David Schuller
2025-05-19 12:05:24 +0000 UTCI am a citizen of France and went to culinary school. What day would be good for you to burn down my bakery?
James Cézanne-Taipale
2025-05-19 10:17:33 +0000 UTCAh the legendary Nate Coup
nughh
2025-05-19 07:45:57 +0000 UTCI have always found the fact that the *snipers* didn't have optics appalling. They really just sent the Mayberry PD in there to pull off a Delta Force-grade mission, didn't they?
Major Dork Thorklestein, HonFRS
2025-05-19 05:18:22 +0000 UTCThe crossover of accordions into Norteño music is in part what you referenced; there’s a reason most northern Mexican beers (that are not made for export) are pilsners and dark beers. ¡Viva Bohemia!
Tyrone Slothrust
2025-05-19 00:34:59 +0000 UTCI can't believe there has been no mention of Cotton Hill yelling "Santy Anna's leg!" from the crew.
Doug King
2025-05-18 22:29:57 +0000 UTCBeowolf hauntology.
Alistair SM J
2025-05-18 22:07:44 +0000 UTCWith the jokes about doing bong rips with Santa Anna's leg, I'm a little sad you didn't mention the actual thing US troops did with his captured leg. Namely, using it as a bat to play baseball
Grimpil Sun
2025-05-18 21:55:05 +0000 UTCNate-hosted episode? Nice.
Allen
2025-05-18 20:02:20 +0000 UTCBeen wondering about this for so long but too lazy to research myself. Thank you kindly.
Brian Lancaster
2025-05-18 19:47:33 +0000 UTCI've been doing a little looking into the story around the Munich Olympic Hostage situation and I'm shocked I don't think you have an episode on it. There was a solid movie that came out last year called November 9th but that didn't get fully into how Worst-Possible-Outcome the actual thing went
Friendly Fire Exercise
2025-05-18 19:26:30 +0000 UTCI'd start an armed conflict for some snickerdoodle right now
Sparky
2025-05-18 19:24:26 +0000 UTCHonesty the only thing missing is some higher up mistress drama get involved
Star maker 75
2025-05-18 19:24:21 +0000 UTCI hope you guys do more mexican history because there alot of crazy stuff going on. I mean there -the ten tragic days -mexican-american war or s Santa Anna campaign. (P.s i would to see behind the bastard do a episode on him) -some battles of mexican revolution -Battle of Puebla -i know you guys did second French-mexican war and don't do repeats, but i would like to do mini-series on the french invasion of Mexico. The whole war is just nuts
Star maker 75
2025-05-18 19:20:32 +0000 UTCThis is such a French situation that it honestly hurts.
Steven Rutland
2025-05-18 19:18:56 +0000 UTC
