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BONUS EPISODE: The Tarnak Farm Incident ft. Robert Evans

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Joe is joined by Robert Evans, Host of Behind the Bastards, to talk about the time a US Air Force Pilot took a bunch of uppers and bombed Canadian Forces in 2002.

Sources:

Mike Friscolanti. Friendly Fire: The Untold Story of the U.S. Bombing that Killed Four Canadian Soldiers in Afghanistan

https://www.jstor.org/stable/45302199

https://www.goflightmedicine.com/post/tarnak-farm-reckless-pilots-speed-or-fog-of-war

https://www.chicagomag.com/chicago-magazine/april-2005/harry-schmidts-war/

Comments

He’s currently head of “business strategies” at O’Shea Builders in Illinois

Joe Wakefield

Looks like Harry Schmidt became CEO of a hospital

Joe Wakefield

Any chance y'all will cover the 1994 Blackhawk shoot down?

ChainsawSnuggling

those aren't the emojis i would've used

Gryphoneer

Just to pile in on this a bit more, I've read a number of memoirs of people who flew close air support missions. The best ( Da Nang Diaries ) is about an American forward air controller who also did CAS in his prop plane Often below 5,000 feet and at more than half the speed of an F16, these planes were still very hard to take down with just rifles and machine guns. If the F16 pilot thought he was in serious danger from small arms or unguided munitions at 20,000 feet, he is either stupid or lying.

Noblesse Oblahaj

You can tell just by looking at flight times that the pilots are being given drugs. Look at any strategic bomber flight. Hell, they had to fly the A-10s across the Atlantic for the Gulf War and that thing is slower than a fart in a stiff headwind. There's a book ( Warthogs? ) where the pilots talk about how much it sucked, because the A10 had such crude navigational avionics. Also one of the A-10s in the squadron had a gas leak that was pumping fumes into the cockpit and they didn't realize until they were hundreds of miles out across the ocean

Noblesse Oblahaj

I love that you have robert on for the first time in forever and it comes right back around to "bomb the great lakes". Damn was this glorious.

Jonathan Sutter

Once on r/meth I saw a post by a Senegalese pilot post picture of barrel bombs in his plane while saying how much he loved taking meth and dropping bombs 😂😂😂

Gabriel Horsley

Woooo crossover between my 2 fav podcasts!!

Saoirse Davitt

"Yes, erm, you named your plane the Canuck Compactor, care to explain your thought process there?"

Chris W

Interesting thing about pilot callsigns: you don’t choose yours. It’s chosen by your peers, and frequently references something embarrassing (Google “callsign STAB” for a good story of one). So for a pilot to get the callsign “Psycho”, either there’s a good story behind it, or he’s such a legitimate psychopath that even his fellow fighter pilots couldn’t think of anything worse to call him.

Matt

Love the BTB x LLBD crossovers. They’re excellent

PaceSchwarz


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