EARLY EPISODE: The 410AD Sack of Rome
Added 2025-02-16 07:41:01 +0000 UTCJoe is joined by the Zoo Crew to talk about the time Rome hosted the world's largest Goth convention.
Sources:
Zosimus. New History
Michael Kulikowski. Rome's Gothic Wars: From the Third Century to Alaric.
Ludwig Heinrich Dyck. The Goth Sack of Rome: Barbarians at the Gate in 410 AD. Military Heritage. Volume 7, no 2. 2005.
Herwig Wolfram. The Roman Empire and Its Germanic Peoples.
The Cambridge Ancient History Volume 13
Comments
im 27 and not goth but sisters of mercy have some absolute bangers
audrey
2025-04-16 23:07:30 +0000 UTC😭😭 glad im not the only pedantic genre knower here
audrey
2025-04-16 23:05:16 +0000 UTCGreat episode. Commercial hvac is where it’s at . Local 17 saved my life
Mourning Run
2025-03-04 17:05:21 +0000 UTCAlso this is just goth repo men
Mildly invested
2025-03-03 03:06:23 +0000 UTCRebar for the rebar throne
Jonathan Grafton
2025-02-25 05:13:44 +0000 UTCI would absolutely love to field the Doug the Donkey figure in a 40K game, just to piss off all the fascist nutters. Unfortunately, the boys made it in 54mm and most games are 28mm. Any chance of getting a 28mm Doug the Donkey?
Thaddeus Blanchette
2025-02-24 21:22:07 +0000 UTCBest part in response the Byzantines just built more wall
Mildly invested
2025-02-24 06:07:22 +0000 UTCI gotta say, saving ripping on him for midcast was a masterstroke. I listened again without all the background noise in my shop...well fuckin done
Jonathan Sutter
2025-02-21 00:14:02 +0000 UTCI'd like some recommendations, because I feel like the only real "goth" music I know is stuff that Voltaire talked about, like The Cure and Bauhaus who I always thought were a bit boring.
Markus D
2025-02-20 19:16:46 +0000 UTC“Armenia is the Boston of the Roman empire” is not something I expected to hear on LLBD, but in hindsight, I definitely should have expected it.
Paloma Alcala
2025-02-18 16:38:40 +0000 UTCPraise Wall!!!
Steven
2025-02-18 14:31:32 +0000 UTCWall for the wall God!
nasklaf
2025-02-18 03:45:09 +0000 UTCArtisan Slaughter from Grinted.
Alistair SM J
2025-02-17 20:18:18 +0000 UTCThere's a Walluigi joke here somewhere
Harles Barkley
2025-02-17 17:56:59 +0000 UTCYou guys missed the perfect opportunity to rip on Morrisey in the intro...he is such a collosal douchebag
Jonathan Sutter
2025-02-17 17:47:38 +0000 UTCIt's really, really funny that all the Western Civilization Rome Guys see Rome as this homogenous pillar of white culture but Rome was doing 4th dimensional racism against itself
Noblesse Oblahaj
2025-02-17 16:36:04 +0000 UTCRome has been sacked more times than Patrick Mahomes
Noblesse Oblahaj
2025-02-17 15:59:28 +0000 UTCGoths was a pretty good Mountain Goats album
Hunter S
2025-02-17 15:28:54 +0000 UTCI am in my early 30s and I love Goth music.
I_like_planes_and_cities
2025-02-17 14:59:44 +0000 UTCWall: One W forwards, two L's back
Karl Åström
2025-02-17 14:05:18 +0000 UTCLook it's been too long since we've had a horrible pronunciation from Joe, he even managed to get through the Mstislav episode without one
kliachichka
2025-02-17 07:41:54 +0000 UTCThe Legion of Wallachia
Jonathan Grafton
2025-02-17 01:24:56 +0000 UTCThere's a chain of convenience stores here in Australia that sells Faygo.
Pat D
2025-02-17 01:13:59 +0000 UTC“Don’t cut the benefits of guys who can do organized violences” (checks news in the US) oh boy this is gonna be interesting lol
Glorytothedead
2025-02-17 00:48:56 +0000 UTCRome doesn't get teabagged, it gets potato sacked
Jonathan Grafton
2025-02-17 00:25:27 +0000 UTCAs an electrician Joe keeps me going as a professional! I love you guys! You and the zoo crew and Nate and all the homies make me laugh.
Nick Anderson
2025-02-16 23:55:02 +0000 UTCThe Stillicho pronunciation feels like a hammer to the temple lol
Chase Jackson
2025-02-16 23:26:25 +0000 UTCI Iove them all but it's painful (turning 50 in a week)
iDoTechOK
2025-02-16 23:14:21 +0000 UTCCradle of Filth is not a goth band
ruin
2025-02-16 23:04:02 +0000 UTCIt's not a dead rat in the walls, it's just Nick's corpse
heffa
2025-02-16 22:56:58 +0000 UTCI stand beside you, Brother!! ✊ It's kinda funny, listening to 3 guys who are all younger than me, whinge about music like octogenarian nimbys 😁
heffa
2025-02-16 22:49:52 +0000 UTCI'm a professional domestic spelunker. Good times. Praise wall.
Kyle Desseau
2025-02-16 22:29:25 +0000 UTCEvery bonus episode is a reminder that the money is worth it
Jeremiah Haupt
2025-02-16 21:42:57 +0000 UTCPraise? You mean Raise!
Gil the Gilded Dragon
2025-02-16 21:14:01 +0000 UTCLike Rome, I want to be destroyed by a goth.
Sean Daily
2025-02-16 18:03:26 +0000 UTCSeeing cradle of filth live was fun because Danny Filth is very short and wears very thick soled boots to compensate. It is never not funny to see.
Mutual Aid Miniatures
2025-02-16 17:04:04 +0000 UTCEdward Watts wrote a book on the history of the idea of “Rome fell in 410”, which I think I need to read at some point. Also, at this point I would not be surprised at all if “are you now or have you ever been a fan of ICP” is asked at a Senate hearing.
Matt
2025-02-16 17:02:13 +0000 UTCZoo Crew! Zoo Crew! Zoo Crew!
Brandon O'Hara
2025-02-16 16:28:19 +0000 UTCI feel like I'm gonna have to start some kind of narrative here to defend my love of goth music early Goth music by the way I'm old as shit
iDoTechOK
2025-02-16 16:02:41 +0000 UTCSo when's the "Sopping wet" merch drop?
Nick Fontaine
2025-02-16 14:45:53 +0000 UTCSomehow it all comes down to wall
Thomas Layton
2025-02-16 12:47:56 +0000 UTCI think I would definitely say cradle of filth is infinitely better than Nirvana musically but both suck
Taylor Russell
2025-02-16 12:08:19 +0000 UTCAh yes, the apocalyptic smell combination of clove cigarettes, patchouli and the pillaged forum romanum.
Till Wer Sonst
2025-02-16 09:13:47 +0000 UTCStar maker 75
2025-02-16 07:59:34 +0000 UTC
