EARLY EPISODE: The Battle of Hamburger Hill
Added 2024-12-22 19:07:49 +0000 UTCFrancis joins Joe to talk about one of the most memorable battles of the Vietnam War, which was completely and utterly pointless.
Sources:
https://www.history.com/news/hamburger-hill-controversy
Frank Boccia. The Crouching Beast: A United States Army Lieutenant's Account of the Battle for Hamburger Hill
Robert L. Durham. 101st Airborne fight for Hamburger Hill. Military Heritage. Vol. 21, No. 4
Comments
Joe’s comments about the “barefoot farmer” trope reminded me of The Lawrence of Arabia series of Behind the Bastards, which has a great discussion of the use of irregular and conventional troops. In fact, he starts out with an anecdote about how Vo Nguyen Jap - leader of the Vietnamese military from 1946 - 1972 - always carried Lawrence’s book with him.
Jeff Walker
2025-01-22 20:23:21 +0000 UTCI don't know if it would work, but if I had been forced into the Vietnam War, I probably would've tried to switch sides by fervently telling the North Vietnamese Army that I was a communist. Or would the U.S. not send you if you were a communist for that very reason? I'll need to look into that.
Markus D
2025-01-07 00:36:04 +0000 UTCThat name is possibly less appealing than "cum burger".
Markus D
2025-01-07 00:32:20 +0000 UTCmy favorite christmas tradition was always staying up late to hear joe kassanta clogs' wooden shoes tiptoe across the roof with his bag full of presents* *tales of unmatched depravity and horror
Robert Heilman
2025-01-06 21:56:38 +0000 UTCSpeaking of Vietnamese tunnel networks: https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2024/12/22/historic-achievement-vietnams-ho-chi-minh-citys-first-metro-line-opens “Back on the train, 84-year-old war veteran Vu Thanh told the AFP news agency he was happy to experience below-ground in a more positive way after spending three years fighting American troops in the city’s famous Cu Chi tunnels, an enormous underground network.”
Elsie Hupp
2024-12-29 21:30:58 +0000 UTCI've had an idea for years now to write a book focused entirely on the Au shau valley. It's a fantastic microcosm of the entire war effort in Vietnam, starting at that green beret camp that got schwacked in (iirc, can't find my notes) 1965 and following it up to (possibly past) Lam Son where some of the 101st got sent into the Au Shau as a diversion and kept getting ambushed. If any one place could become cursed by virtue of the bloodshed therein, it would be Au Shau valley.
Brandon P
2024-12-29 14:09:40 +0000 UTCI love the part of Dispatches where they go to Hue. Man, what a great book.
Brandon P
2024-12-29 14:08:04 +0000 UTCThe "Cum Burger" is just called a "Juicy Lucy" in Minnesota. And it is freaking delicious.
Tom
2024-12-26 21:12:32 +0000 UTCIt is a Rhode Islander.
Wouldyoukindly
2024-12-26 02:57:35 +0000 UTCBad News: Looks like Honeycutt failed upwards and retired a General. I found a picture of him dated 2011.
Ingrid Havlik
2024-12-25 21:30:43 +0000 UTCMmm I can’t wait to hear all about the tasty cookout these guys all had.
Boils
2024-12-25 05:38:33 +0000 UTCYou guys gotta do the battle of Hue!
Bill B
2024-12-24 18:43:20 +0000 UTCIt's worth noting that the Vietnamese tunnel network was built up for decades before the Americans ever got there. They used it to fight the Japanese, and then the French. The amount of engineering and thought put into them is amazing. For a great book about them, check out The Tunnels of Chu Chi.
Noblesse Oblahaj
2024-12-24 14:47:44 +0000 UTCIf you fill a valley with corpses, it becomes a Blood Bowl. And then Orkz show up
Noblesse Oblahaj
2024-12-24 14:21:06 +0000 UTC...and Rhode Island was originally chartered as The Colony of Rhode Island and Providence PLANTATIONS! America's Rhodesia
Mark Konwinski
2024-12-24 13:21:58 +0000 UTCBœrgêr
The Squash
2024-12-24 04:03:02 +0000 UTCYESSSS
Bill B
2024-12-23 18:39:45 +0000 UTCERP is the final evolution of the death blossom.
Mark Hewson
2024-12-23 18:36:27 +0000 UTCIn answer to your questions, we are Rhode Islanders, our official name is the State of Rhode Island, and we are responsible for both the Seabees and friend of the pod the Mk 14 torpedo!
Chris Morse
2024-12-23 17:21:53 +0000 UTCComrade diglette used “Packing dat heat” It was super effective
William Shackelford
2024-12-23 15:22:16 +0000 UTCERP: Explosive Reactive Personnel
Jonathan Grafton
2024-12-23 12:47:17 +0000 UTCRemember to leave out white monster and vapes for Joe this Christmas.
Thomas Layton
2024-12-23 01:06:11 +0000 UTCNo cap
William Shackelford
2024-12-23 00:31:18 +0000 UTCThe best burger is a hamburger with feta cheese.
Katherine
2024-12-22 23:36:52 +0000 UTCDid Francis get the movie Hamburger Hill confused with The Deer Hunter? It was one of those rushed out to capitalize on Platoon doing so well. So, basically 20 years after the battle. Had Don Cheadle and Dylan McDermott
William Wright
2024-12-22 22:35:03 +0000 UTCYe Olde Vietnam ERP is something else altogether. 👀
hailthefish
2024-12-22 21:48:15 +0000 UTCGiven scoobydoo & batman are both owned by WB bane scoobydoo is ... not implausible. Lets get David Zasparilla on it
Gil the Gilded Dragon
2024-12-22 21:43:30 +0000 UTCVietnam War ERP: pops up behind you. shoots you cutely.
Ariane Signalis is the Elster Signalis Fan Club and challenges you to play SIGNALIS without pointing at any of the characters an
2024-12-22 20:42:10 +0000 UTCPerfect thing for the "need a break from this crowd house time to walk the dogs" holiday tradition.
Madcat
2024-12-22 19:24:42 +0000 UTCAlso Cum burger is gonna be in my new lingo now thanks Francis
William Shackelford
2024-12-22 19:22:58 +0000 UTCJerking off your best friend in the draft office so you don’t get agent Orange is something I could see myself doing. Great Uncle was exposed to it and got cancer from that stuff.
William Shackelford
2024-12-22 19:22:31 +0000 UTCChristmas time hearkens brutal memories for me anyway. Huzzah?
19ZXB Donkey brains
2024-12-22 19:21:06 +0000 UTCLets do it!
Adam Rumpf
2024-12-22 19:10:52 +0000 UTCPerfect just in time to download it before my flight!
I_like_planes_and_cities
2024-12-22 19:10:18 +0000 UTC
