EARLY EPISODE: The New York Draft Riots of 1863
Added 2024-10-06 06:59:48 +0000 UTCConscription, it turns out, is very unpopular.
Sources:
https://press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/317749.html&title=The+New+York+City+Draft+Riots+of+1863&desc
Beard, Rick. City Under Siege: The New York Draft Riots
https://www.history.com/topics/american-civil-war/draft-riots
https://history.nycourts.gov/case/court-cases-related-to-the-new-york-city-draft-riots-1863/
Dupree, A. Hunter and Leslie H. Fishel, Jr. "An Eyewitness Account of the New York Draft Riots, July, 1863"
Anbinder, Tyler. "Which Poor Man’s Fight?: Immigrants and the Federal Conscription of 1863."
Comments
If you give firefighters an excuse to break shit they absolutely will
Rosemary S Callahan Gray
2024-11-13 11:59:48 +0000 UTCUmmm you failed to mention the guy directing the New York Times Gatling gun was WINSTON CHURCHILL’S GRANDFATHER!
William Wright
2024-11-09 20:43:10 +0000 UTCI just noticed the robotic “Lions Led by Donkeys” in the bagpipe intro 🫡
Mitch Guerrerio
2024-10-13 20:48:23 +0000 UTCWarming impact persist long past 15 years, if he'd mentioned "btw this was an absolutely omnicidal choice I made back then", I'd have said nothing at all. 2 more generations of people living this way and we're absolutely cooked, people would rather lose it all for their kids' kids then adjust their expectations, admit that the good life must entail fewer flights
Tristan Ryan
2024-10-13 20:29:09 +0000 UTCAt this point, that was like, what, 15 years ago? We were all different people in our 20s. I was a weirdo libertarian climate change skeptic that long ago, and now I'm pretty far left and way more conscientious. Giving him shit for a trip he made a long time ago when he probably didn't even realize the impact of his choices is pretty sus.
Eric A Gentzler
2024-10-13 20:13:41 +0000 UTCI deployed with an IRR Marine who I had just seen EAS a few months before. "I miss doing coke with my wife in Colorado." That was a rough hand he was delt.
Thomas A Boulay
2024-10-13 02:34:40 +0000 UTCFirefighters joining the riots and starting fires is one of the most on brand things I have heard
Rosemary S Callahan Gray
2024-10-11 17:58:23 +0000 UTCHere in Texas, the only counties that voted against secession were the counties that were overwhelmingly German. This didn't go unnoticed by the CSA, which unfortunately led to the CSA rolling through these German-speaking towns and forcing men at gunpoint to join the army. Some tried (and failed) to escape to Mexico, leading to the Nueces Massacre (Wikipedia has a good entry on it). My several-times-great-grandfather on my mom's side was one of the men that joined in lieu of execution. The family legend we heard growing up was that none of his fellow German-speaking regiment wanted anything to do with this war, and immediately surrendered to the first Union troops they came across when they were sent to reinforce Vicksburg.
Jake Rawls
2024-10-11 04:02:25 +0000 UTCI have extended family who like to play up their Cherokee heritage (we have none to my knowledge and we're pasty white). My sister once said, during one of these times, if it can't be used for a scholarship, it doesn't count. Got a lot of stink eyes from family that day.
Matthew Mayton
2024-10-10 17:31:33 +0000 UTCCool thing about German immigrant enlistments in places like Missouri (where they were referred to as Dutch by Scotch-Irish and Anglos) is that they were largely very staunch abolitionists who stopped the entirety of the state from being lost to Rebel ding dongs galavanting on horseback - your General Price and such. I guess a large population of the Germans were failed revolutionaries from 1830s-1848, pretty radical dudes. It’s an interesting contrast to immigrant reactionary behaviors. Nate’s aside about southern Indiana vs Great Lake Midwest made me think of that. Missouri is definitely very similar in that regard.
Nezvar1
2024-10-09 18:09:51 +0000 UTCLol grow up, engage with the impacts. If everyone lived and consumed that way, we'd be doomed https://www.theguardian.com/environment/ng-interactive/2019/jul/19/carbon-calculator-how-taking-one-flight-emits-as-much-as-many-people-do-in-a-year
Tristan Ryan
2024-10-08 14:48:17 +0000 UTCRandom I love the new opening music
Krys Block
2024-10-08 13:42:08 +0000 UTCYou've succeeded in spurring me from my blissful neutrality though not in a direction you would have preferred. I want Nate to fly more now after reading this comment.
Brandon P
2024-10-08 12:48:14 +0000 UTCIt's like professions that Joe hasn't worked.
Brandon P
2024-10-08 12:45:17 +0000 UTCWhat a coincidence, the name of my new punk band is The Teds Nugent.
Brandon P
2024-10-08 12:44:42 +0000 UTCSingle most impactful discretionary consumer decision a person can make, die on the biggest hill you can find
Tristan Ryan
2024-10-08 02:46:02 +0000 UTCThere are 90,00 people permanently suspended above US airspace. Some commute for work on a damn plane. Pick a different hill to die on.
Rylan May
2024-10-08 02:30:42 +0000 UTCWhen Hong Christ, the Dicksucking Union, and the LLBD Death Note show up in the same episode, you know it’s going to be a good episode.
Paloma Alcala
2024-10-07 22:39:05 +0000 UTCNate where tf have you not lived??
God Emperor Leto II Atriedes
2024-10-07 22:38:46 +0000 UTCThe Detroit Lions pick Joesph Kassassbian for the 2024 draft..
William Shackelford
2024-10-07 17:06:03 +0000 UTCAs a person who lives in Valdosta Georgia and have gone to the battle reenactments before, like the one close to me, Battle of Olustee. The confederate actors, majority of them still believe America went wrong by telling individuals you can’t own people anymore as property. Don’t go to civil war reenactments anymore because of people like that.
William Shackelford
2024-10-07 17:04:20 +0000 UTCThis is art
William Shackelford
2024-10-07 17:00:03 +0000 UTCThere are some advantages to being a New Yorker in 1860s
William Shackelford
2024-10-07 16:59:16 +0000 UTCno clue tbh
kliachichka
2024-10-07 15:48:32 +0000 UTCBest part of being on a hurling team in New York State is getting to assault NYPD officers and not getting arrested for it.
Brendan Bonner
2024-10-07 11:55:09 +0000 UTCNate's 2 day Santiago trip with 5 leg flights to racking up like 1.5 years of per capita carbon emissions for keeping to 1.5 degrees warming threshold. Biggest outstanding area of cognitive dissonance among otherwise conscientious people
Tristan Ryan
2024-10-07 07:52:17 +0000 UTCIncredible comment to read with no context.
Awfullyconfused
2024-10-07 04:54:32 +0000 UTCIf Gary Busey buttfucked Ted Nugent, Kid Rock is what would shoot out his ass and on to the floor.
Spaghetti
2024-10-07 03:53:40 +0000 UTCI really need to watch Warrior. It keeps popping up as either a recommendation or in conversation.
Allison Riley
2024-10-07 03:07:24 +0000 UTCYep. And Warrior did as well
Nicholas Slayton
2024-10-07 03:05:31 +0000 UTCI don’t suppose your government allows for conscientious objectors to do non combat roles?
Jason Machacek
2024-10-06 23:44:49 +0000 UTCTom calling Robbie Keane a terrible footballer… Tom don’t know ball…
Chase Porfily
2024-10-06 22:31:02 +0000 UTCCan confirm, the confederate declarations of secession all said “we want to keep slavery and we’re scared Lincoln will try to ban it”. The Civil War was over slavery, period.
Matt
2024-10-06 21:15:29 +0000 UTCJordan Love would engage in a draft riot and that is why he is QB
Mutual Aid Miniatures
2024-10-06 21:01:22 +0000 UTCOkay but Maureen Dowd on a crew served weapon is objectively hilarious
Tyrone Slothrust
2024-10-06 20:53:10 +0000 UTCWhen y’all started talking about firefighters at the end where they would put out the fires they started made me think of like a mad max version of after the bombs fall in Fahrenheit 451. Those firefighters that used to only start fires now roam as a gang with one tube of flamethrower and one tube of water and threaten every settlement they find. A mad max souped up insano monster truck firefighting engine is a must too.
Thomas Cain
2024-10-06 20:03:30 +0000 UTCTo be fair. If you made it till your 80s in the 19th century. You are probably a stern individual with no health problems and you are probably in pretty decent shape compared to 40 year old day laborers
Jim Heeren
2024-10-06 19:49:52 +0000 UTCThe Big Stinky Apple
William Shackelford
2024-10-06 16:22:20 +0000 UTCWhat if instead of Gangs of New York, Leonardo DiCaprio’s character is played by Waluigi and the final fight scene instead of charging with homemade weapons, it rainbow road Mario kart with muskets and knives.
William Shackelford
2024-10-06 16:20:54 +0000 UTCaw man shout out to the trans folks who name themselves affter anime characters like thats normal
Lain of the Wired
2024-10-06 15:32:14 +0000 UTCChicago > NY. Burned to the ground. Was rebuilt with city planning in mind.
Rylan May
2024-10-06 15:25:25 +0000 UTCSundays are for football. And new LLBD drops.
Rylan May
2024-10-06 15:20:43 +0000 UTCWasn't the bbc america show copper using this as a background
Allison Riley
2024-10-06 14:42:54 +0000 UTCI just watched that highly accurate documentary last week.
Doug King
2024-10-06 14:41:15 +0000 UTCit used to make some sort of sense back when the rich guys were either politicians or industrial magnates, now the only ones left to "keep the economy going" would be javascript developers
kliachichka
2024-10-06 14:37:18 +0000 UTCFdny cut through an open roll up gate of mine. No locks, wasn’t stuck in place. Wasn’t needed to gain access to anything. If all you have is a gas powered diamond tipped circular saw, everything’s fair game.
Hammerthrust Von Sexron
2024-10-06 12:56:29 +0000 UTCAs a Minnesotan I’m mightily impressed by Tom’s familiarity with the city of Bumfuck, Iowa.
Luke Olson
2024-10-06 12:25:13 +0000 UTCWhites to the Irish: "you are on this council, but we do not award you the rank of honkey"
Noblesse Oblahaj
2024-10-06 11:39:30 +0000 UTCThe aromatic era of NYC, The Gags of New York
Noblesse Oblahaj
2024-10-06 11:34:03 +0000 UTCThey've floated this idea in Armenia as well
Lions Led By Donkeys Podcast
2024-10-06 11:14:49 +0000 UTCWould you believe me if I told you that in Ukraine our dumbass government has been floating around the idea of buying your way out of the draft for like a year. Worked great last time guys
kliachichka
2024-10-06 10:55:39 +0000 UTCFrom the historical documentary Gangs of New York??
Alex Varrus
2024-10-06 09:37:03 +0000 UTCGeneral Wool was one of Generals who oversaw the Trail of Tears... so he did infact support genocide.
LagCat
2024-10-06 09:17:45 +0000 UTCInsert Gangs of New York references here*
jackson macpherson
2024-10-06 07:31:53 +0000 UTC
