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The Dark Council - N'zull, The Defiler (WIP)

Hello everyone!

Update July 18th

Unfortunately, I could not work on N'zull yesterday as much as I wanted. I haven't uploaded a picture today because I have posed him and right now I am working on adding more details, the next image you will see it's the finished miniature :). Since he is a large miniature I don't expect to finish him today, I will try my best for tomorrow (I definitely wish to print him ASAP). I won't be uploading this post, the next post will be a Simple render with color and test print pictures. 

Update July 16th

Finished the armor, I will still make the cloth but those will come when posed. Now I will work on the wings.

Update July 15th

Started refining shapes from the shoulders to the foot. Today I will finish the rest of the detail on the leg armor, and move on to the wings. I will make the wings a bit thicker so that you can scale him down without problems.

Update July 14th

Yesterday I Refined a bit more the body and the head a bit more. Finished blocking out the shapes of the armor that he will be wearing.

Today I will start refining the shapes of the armor and adding details. The face is not complete yet, I want to finish the body and pose him so that I can add a facial expression that works well with the pose. 

Update July 13th

I have finished a rough block of the first Dreadlord. Looking at the most recent arts I saw that they now have five fingers in the hand, but I kept the old anatomy with only 4. For this body, I chose a large build like Anetheron or Lothraxion. I have added a blood elf as a reference. I think the size is good.

I am still in doubt about the wing size, I think I'm going to make them longer.

Talking about N'zull, since this guy is big and I wanted to make an interaction with Gelvain, I am cutting down the second pose. That won't be needed. I will make the cut on the Arms above the Armguards, this way it will be possible to have the modular with another option or the interaction pose.

For Hands: Empty, Spell, Drainlife 2H (Spell + Gelvain)

I will now make a head (Right now it's only a ball)

I think it's too early to speak on this but since this guy is big I was thinking of hollowing him when done. I will add a cut on his head to reduce printing time, and cut on the wings to fit properly on small build plates.

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Today I have finished Gelvain Amberwood and he is now printing. While I wait I  started collecting information to make the next miniature. Since I have never done a Dreadlord before and since they were not common when I played WOW, I kind of got lost. I want to take my time and make this right since this will be the first. 

I can't take WC3 as a reference because they are units so every hero is on a proper size to match other heroes. I turned to screenshots and I could not find anything that could help me in this quest. While searching in the wiki I found "Nathrezim are enormous, imposing beings, taller than both felguard and doomguard." Another wiki says 8.5ft (2.59 meters tall) without the horns.

I searched again on Youtube and found a video in a quest(that is why it's so blurry), at this part lots of dreadlords spawn, they are not specials, therefore, I think I can take their size as a reference. I think that the character in question is a BloodElf priest, comparing the sizes the DL has maybe 2 Blood Elfs in height.

That means those guys are big! lol

Blood Elfs have 1.9 on average, meaning those guys should have 3.8 meters, if I put wings and horns, these guys will be massive. I think I will go with 3.2 or 3 meters, what do you guys think? Does anyone have a better reference?


Best regards,

Ivo



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Comments

Looking fantastic!

Fraser

Don't. I'm here for this. If the change is too big, I will say it's not possible.

I apologize for giving you more work, but I also thank you for your efforts XD <3

Mini Manatee

It was not my intention to make it wingless but, I guess it's doable. There will be only one Wingless Dreadlord (that will be smaller), Pride. Since Pride is smaller and does not have wings, I think I will add a NElf head and a harry hand so people can use him as Satyr proxy.

Haha I just edited my reply after posting as I thought that might be the case, but a wingless version would be great if its an easy addition!

Mini Manatee

Wait, what? No... lol, The wingless version was just for the back screenshot. But I guess it's easy to make one, I just need to save the file before adding wing holes.

Oooo this is shaping up nicely! I love the progress pics you do :) - the no wing version will also be a great option for just a big bad demon! (Assuming that is an option and not just a picture for easier viewing of the back of him!)

Mini Manatee

yeah they would be bigger than tauren for sure

vanderblast

Yeah maybe like that but maybe they should at least be bigger than Taurens right?

In the cutscenes he looks like what describe in the wiki 2.59 not too big

Plus, we can scale up and down however we like anyway!

Fraser

Strangely they're listed as Medium in the old rulebooks, which caps them out at 8ft. Maybe once they're 2ft taller than an average human, plus a lot thicker too, it may look alright? Often Felguards and Doomguards aren't that big.

Fraser

I think WC3 Reforged might have some cutscenes worth looking at too since mal'ganis and valimarthras are next to humans for scaling.

vanderblast

While I know in the game Illidin is massive in his demon form since all NPCs were made huge for gameplay purposes, I think dreadlords can be at least demon illidins height. You can also try to find scenes with https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Lothraxion in them since hes a dreadlord whos put next to a lot of human and elf NPCs specifically

vanderblast


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