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Modding Diary - Next Steps


Long time no talk friends!! : D It is good to be back!

For those of you who don't know I normally do weekly work-in-progress posts (I call them modding diary) but I was away on vacation for a week and a half and just got back a week ago.🫥

I had a really great time in Florida but the weather was so miserably hot 🥵I don't think I've sweated that much in my entire life. Upon returning I finally learned to appreciate the cold weather we have here up north. I know there's a hurricane happening right now in that area and I hope those of you who are in that vicinity are staying safe.

This week I did some more bug fixin for the childbirth mod and I am starting to research for my next update.

For the next update I can either do a midwife active career or bring death to the childbirth mod. I am not saying im only doing one or the other, I'd like to add them both eventually, this poll just helps me to know which one to focus on first. Here is what I have envisioned for the two idea:

🥼Midwife Career:

🥼 Sims will be able to attend classes either online or through rabbit holes to study for their midwifery certification, they must do their home work and study and past the exam before they can become a Doula-in-Training.

🥼 They can then progress and become an Apprentice, Specialized Midwife, Chief Midwife etc. Their job will start with things like doing consultations, teaching birthing techniques.

🥼When they progress in their career they will be able to perform physical exams, and eventually be able to answer house calls to help other sims give birth. And maybe taking care of the babies in NICU? I know it's not exactly midwifes job to do that but I need to make sure there are enough things to keep your sim busy at work without making things repetitive and boring lol we will see

🥼 Sims will be able to unlock some kind of career related special objects when they reach the top level in their career but Im not sure what yet.

If you have experienced loss of a baby or are currently expecting please feel free to skip the Death part.

 💀Death

First of all I know this is not everyone's cup of tea, so I will definitely do something to make sure this update is optional.

 💀In the death update sims and their baby will have more serious pregnancy complications that may result in their death.

 💀The Birthing sim might die suddenly on the birth bed at home or at the hospital after they give birth (while still holding their baby?).

 💀Sims might also experience postpartum hemorrhage and drop dead suddenly.

 💀Stillbirth babies will be delivered vaginally and handed to your sim wrapped in a small blanket after they are delivered for your sim to say their final goodbyes.

 💀Babies who have sever health conditions might not recover from their conditions in the incubator and result in their death.

what are some custom animations you would like to see to make the update more exciting? why did you vote from one or the other and what do you think you will enjoy the most about the one you voted for? I just want to be able to better understand what I can do to make the update more enjoyable and accurately deliver the things that you guys want to see.

Please leave a comment below!

I hope you all have a good weekend! 💖

Comments

can there be a buff made for sims that deliver their babies without an epidural?

Samantha Elbourne

I would really love a midwife career but please make homebirth midwife a viable route <3

Gem

☠️😂😂

kassandra

Good idea, probably best to have it toggled off on startup and be able to toggle it on if you want it 👌 (two separate toggles 1:for birthing parent 2: infant) just incase people want one and not the other

kassandra

both sound so exciting

Jessica Lightbody

I ABSOLUTELY AGREE!

Kenaysha Clemons

I would love a midwife career. But, as an addition, I would also like to see some type of gender selection added, maybe prenatal vitamins with an updated hospital and maternity ward.

Princess Peach

thats such a good idea and i feel like it could really tie into the mother and babies health conditions and if the death part is added

M Ferver

I love you for actually offering to implement he idea i mentioned🥺🥺

M Ferver

Idk if this is possible, but being able to hold funerals or memorial services for the babies and mothers that pass away would be really cool. I’m not sure if the new expansion will cover funerals, cremations, or other end of life decisions but I think it’s def something that others would be into (I hope it’s not just me anyway…)

Karyssa Creager

i would really lake to see the death part because i thing it's more exciting especially because of the new pack that is comming on the 31 of this month ,it would make sence to have this realism in the game.....omg really i can wait to see your next work Pandasama :) <3

Wendy Oliveira

For the next steps, I think it would be cool to have deco incubators with babies (Or have the ability for more than one family to be in the NICU at a time so that we could set up a functional NICU for storytelling.) ALSO if a sim is breastfeeding for there to be an option to pump autonomously. My poor sim is miserable when she goes out to rabbit holes and such.

Adrean Roberts

I like both and my vote was simply based on which one I think I’d encounter first in my game. Current sims already have career plans so death would likely be first in my game.

Nicole puiia

thank you for all the hard work on this mod!!!

thepinksharpie

I voted for midwife career, as I find that you can add more to the mod without going through a mentally rough time researching. Some custom animations I'd like to see... Chrissy mentioned it in an earlier comment but maybe more midwife-specific births (bed/bathtub/couch or chair)? Or animations of midwives checking on the newborn afterwards (weighing them, checking heartbeat/breathing/etc). Maybe during the labor process there can be more comfort-the-birther animations (like the recent hospital comfort animation, but at home?)

thepinksharpie

damn thats a great idea

juicyyy

Thank you so much for creating this mod! I'm glad you had fun in Florida! I've been to Florida twice and it was very hot the first time, but warm in the winter😄. I think the death update would be amazing, adding something completely new to Sims 4. There are some midwife careers out there, while most won't be as detailed and amazing as yours would be (not to put down other creators), I think a death update would add a little more value. It could affect the relationship between friends and family, like feelings of guilt that they may have cause their's babies condition or having difficultly facing their partner and being more isolated from everyone, depression, etc. Therapy sessions and support groups and maybe compatibility with RPO's pregnancy risks. Hope you had a good weekend too!

Christine Ayomide

First of all, I love the work you do. I voted the midwife career but I think both are amazing ideas. Death would be great for storytelling but like others say optional is a great idea for that. The midwife career would be a lot of fun to play with. I would also love to see more interactions between the expecting couple or single sim maybe with family? Like their parents? With special buffs for that. Ignore if you don't like the idea. I'm happy with any new features. Anyway, have a great day.

M.

Hahaha it’s a tie! 1044/1044 wow we need both I guess lol

RedheadXOX

I voted for death although I love both! Death would certainly add to story telling and realism albeit a bit grim.

Amanda Sturdevent

That’s what I’m planning on doing!

PandaSama

I voted midwife career, because of personal loss in pregnancy. I will never use the death mod, but understand why some people want it. When you do the death one, would it be possible to have it as an optional add-on, not just a toggle in the base? About the worse thing I could picture would be toggling it off in my game, and then a glitch or bug causing it to happen regardless.

EeveeNerd

I don't know if you are involved with Basemental at all, but it would be interesting to see if drug and alcohol use are detrimental to the baby.

Toni Hawthorne

Im gonna have to agree with majority lol both of these would be amazing!!

Jean Borden

it's warm AND humid...we moved down here from Chicago so we kind of knew it would be like our summers all year long...been here a year and still getting used to it...LOL

CAROL J FRITZGERALD

🥳! I really hope you'll consider the other someday too. I know someone else did it first but they haven't touched it in years and it's completely broken at this point. I really miss it and thank it would be a perfect addition to Realistic Birth (I mean, that's about as Realistic as you can get 🙃)

Simslegacy5083

yes I agree a counselling service would be a good addition to the death update💜

PandaSama

I will have to see if it's possible!

PandaSama

ya I used to think maybe I would wanna live in Florida one day cuz I thought I loved the warm weather, but I didn't realize just how warm it is lol. there's no way I can survive the summer there

PandaSama

it will be made as an active career lol no way im just gonna do a rabbit hole

PandaSama

I definitely do plan on finishing the multiple home birth animations

PandaSama

I don't have answers yet for most of these questions until I start making the update. Im not sure if the baby will appear in the family tree if they pass at birth, I will have to see how the game handles it. I think you should still be able to input a name, but again won't know until I get there. but I love these questions!

PandaSama

Seeing this notification pop up on my phone completely out of context was hilarious! LOL

PandaSama

thank you for your kind words <3

PandaSama

it's good to hear im not completely off base for wanting midwifes to work in the NICU lol

PandaSama

Thank you :))

PandaSama

I love the idea of hand and footprints as well as a memory box!

PandaSama

Both please oh my goodness

Courtneyxo

Please do both. Death in particular would be groundbreaking

Ella

I would love the death as an optional version it just adds to the realism of how events can go. I’ve thought of this before for sims

deshonsims

I vote for both! I want my game as real as possible. I like the other idea someone else gave. To let it be an option in the settings if you want to do it or not (infant death)

Ashleigh Gibson

I would love both of these! I also have said this before, but I am also interested in new birth animations, (sitting in the chair, lying on the floor, on the couch, or in the bathtub) or have someone other than a birth-partner help with the non-pool homebirth. (That is... if its possible to do)

Christy Wakeen

the midwife career would be fun, but i voted for death because i think it would make an interesting story to have a mom (or baby, or both) die in childbirth and the dad/other spouse has to work through their grief and then try and find love again.

Dyan Jolly

I would love both but think death would be easier to do first and then you can take your time doing the career mod.

kitten

I don’t know which to choose because I like the idea of adding death because it’s true to life and it can happen but I also like the idea of midwife being a carer option. It’s so hard to choose because I would love both. Damn you’ve not made it easy to choose. I voted both I just couldn’t decide I’ll be happy with whichever one wins.

Katie Baylis Ward

I would be excited for either. As an aspiring midwife myself, I am eagerly waiting for the midwife update, but I would be equally excited (may be the wrong word!) for a death update. Practically speaking, maybe death would be better to do first because the midwife could then also have to deal with death in the career whenever you get to that section of the mod. For the death aspect, you could add bereavement care animations, such as taking the lost baby's hand and footprints. That might be a bit much for the sims, though? Maybe sims could take home a memory box (or a single item) like many hospitals give to baby loss parents in real life, and inside could be the baby's hand/footprints, a photo, a letter, and a locket. Or any combination of special items that the sim could remember their baby by.

Bethany Morledge

I said death it is quite a gruesome choice buy it is reality in all fairness I like to play the sims 4 for realism.i think it's great that you had a warning to people about the death option I think that's very considerate of you.i do want the midwife career aswell though.

Sophiee Sharples

Personnellement je vote pour la carrière de sage-femme, se qui serait intéressant se serait que l'on puisse suivre notre sims si on veux, je ne sais pas si cela est possible. Pour la mort oui, et si ses possible de la désactiver au cas ou on ne veux pas jouer avec. Perso j'aime jouer réaliste donc je laisse souvent le jeu faire ce se qui veux, et même si cela ne m'enchante pas, donc aller encore plus loin ses merveilleux. Merci pour tout ce que vous créez 🥰

Yolande Labbé

I like to pretend my sims life is just happening. Can't wait.

NessaNessa

I definitely like the idea of adding death to the experience, though if I can, my two suggestions would be options to toggle: 1. Infant death: So Sims could still die from childbirth, but the uncomfortableness of infant death could be removed for some, rather than simply turning off death altogether And 2. The visuals/animations, so if someone wanted to play with infant death they could, but it could strictly be off screen for them if they wanted it to be Just some ideas, I know making this stuff optional would be exceptionally hard and time consuming, I just wanted to share my ideas

TheDesignatedDreamer

I certainly agree! I’m gonna look into it

PandaSama

would much prefer to midwife option the death one seems a bit too doom an gloom but like another comment said a cpr option would be good along with maybe death from birth, i just personally don't think death of babies would make the game enjoyable.

Carly Booth

These are some awesome ideas. I think a CPR animation would be cool. Maybe with a chance that the CPR can prevent death. But, I don't know if something like that is possible.

royanne dowden

I love The midwife Career but i also like The other one too but maybe tis as optional so it can be switched on and off 🙈

LipsLikeMorphine

I personally want both I don’t know which one to pick

TyQuanesha

She said she's planning on both eventually!

DC

Death would be good for storytelling/drama (especially for historical saves), but I think more users would have fun with the midwife career. IDK, I'm just happy to see new features!

DC

My vote goes for the career. While it adds realism, if death gets added, I think it should be optional and something that can be switched off in settings for people who don’t want that in their game for personal reasons.

Ashley

The death adds so much more realism for the mother and baby, sad but amazing idea!

Kayla Blanchett

I like the idea of both, I think death for one of my sim couple, would add greatly to it

LAURA TYUS

I love both of them I think the death is a good idea to make where you can deactivate it in settings I love your mod so much ❤️

Tena Hankins

Happy you got to be away and enjoy yourself ! These upcoming updates seem so cool ! Serioulsy with Get To Work, I feel like you could have branches for the careers, so a midwife career would definitely be a good addition. Now on the death part, I understand that it can be a trigger for people, but also it will add more realism to the game. Just has to get a low percentage for it happening so our sims don't go through to this. I'm just here for all the realism. Thank you for your hard work !

Cynthia

Omg the midwife career seems so cool yes please! 🙏🏽

juicyyy

I am looking forward, whatever it will be. My favorite would be the midwife career. Maybe you could make new birth positions possible. I am waiting for that since 2 updates, but I love everything, what you do. You are doing so great, Pandasama.

coffeebagsnpaper_millaine

Midwife career please!! I have already built a midwifery practice, I am completely ready for it

Myrthe Blom

Please make it so the death aspect can be deactivated in settings. I know many want it realistic, but this game is part of how I (and maybe others) deal with my personal loss and infertility. I love your mod and would hate to have to no longer play with it. Thank you.

ZekeBelcher

Definitely the midwife career it would tie in so nicely with your mod and they’re really isn’t enough active careers in the base game. As much as re love the realistic mods playing sims is a way of escaping into a different world free from our troubles and real life for just a few hours x

Sarah Johnson

Hi, both seem great. Midwifes do actually work in the NICU in my country. They also work on Consultations, Fertility, Mother intensive care unit, First line, Maternity ward and delivery room.

Jante Verheyen

ich schließe mich der mehrheit an und bevorzuge beides, jedoch zu beginn die Tod option ..danke für deine arbeit

Annu0815

I would be more happy when its possible to make a real postpartum. The game is missing that part of pregnancy….

Michelle Göke

preferably both :)

Sarah K.

before I had my youngest son, i was pregnant with an egg that didn't form into an embryo and that pregnancy was called a blighted ovum and wonder if you can make that in an update too

Tosha Freeman

to be honest. i'd prefer both

Tosha Freeman

I think I already lost my sim on haemorrhage trough a different mod and would prefer an active carrier as a midwife

RedheadXOX

More positions would also be cool

EvilRegal

Would *much* prefer the career as I would love a new active career that would add to the medical career and to have the option for the midwife to be my own sims vs a random spawned sim (or having to temporarily promote a sim to the top of the doctor career) - I will most likely never use the death option

EvilRegal

I have lost baby and unfortunately it is a part of life and we need to make the game as real as it can get. And that is where you come in, so death mod is needed. And the midwife is a good one to it will give are sims to share in seeing life come into the world.

Cat mom

Eu gostaria de ambos, mas já que tem que escolher, escolho morte, gosto do meu jogo mais realista.

Vólusims

There will eventually be both. This just sets a priority for which will come first

Nikki F

I’d like both but prefer the death update more as I love realistic mods and want more realistic complications in the sims that happens in real life I feel like death would be so much better the midwife as midwife is more career related then gameplay family related and most ppl might not want to make the sim a midwife

Kayla Stewart

I want both! But voted for death because i really want new, more realistic stories with my sims. Your mod was one of the first mods I’ve ever downloaded and played with because i love the story telling lol. I know it triggers some but i think it just adds more realism to my game.

seona

SAME !!! But we have to chose

lylou dallas

tbh I don't wanna be greedy but I want both please

Tam

I’m just voting because I get to but I’m good with whatever.

Johsua Widanka

Midwife career

Kayyyyy.x

Death 🥰🥰🥰🪦🪦🪦🥰🥰🥰

Juliette

Yes! Would love to see interventions if possible, like hospital stays, bed rest, extra checkups.

Abby

I would like the death option w/ a toggle for a setting to be able to turn it on or off like the lactation, weight gain, so on.

Savannah Wixson

Death would be awesome addition would they die while doing unassisted birth as well? Or even with a partner

Elizabeth Tyler

I like the idea of either, would be good to see some kind of therapy option for after the death of the baby. if the baby is a still birth how would it appear within the family tree? Could we have option to input a name and that the baby passed away at birth? Can we mark the sim as high risk for any future pregnancies? If the mother passes and there isn't another parent in the house what happens to the baby? Can we choose or will it be automated? What about siblings could we have an option on telling siblings what's happened to baby or even mum or both, offer them counselling? Could we get little baby spirts like we do adult? Just some ideas floating about my head.

Ashley Stanbra

Death was something I was wanting before u posted this. Voted.

Giesbrecht Dana

I picked death only because there are several midwife careers already available. Yours is definitely more interactive but at the moment I can do without out it. I would like death. I love storytelling and grief is apart of life. And as someone who has experienced tragic events in my life, playing it out in sims is very helpful. Death would be extremely beneficial to a Realistic Childbirth mod

Taylor Green

I picked the midwife one bc I love active careers. But a death update would be amazing for realism and storytelling. It’s not talked about enough. And bringing awareness to it would be great.

Kiara Karlisse

I agree there has to be some kind of depth to it that affects the sim and even maybe their family relationship

PandaSama

I picked one and was wondering if sometime in the future can we have the one that came in second place? Either way thank you for your hard work.

Sonya Holcomb

I would love to see death as a possibility especially in historical saves

DarlingAnon

I prefer death. I like to play my game with a lot of realism, so having that chance would be neat for storytellers. I think with the new pack coming out, it could work alongside your mod. A feature that would be nice is if the baby passes, maybe your sim will receive some sort of memory like a footprint ?

Forever Simgirl

I would love to see when a sim goes in for an ultrasound they can also hear the heartbeat

AquariusSimz ♒️

I voted for the midwife career because you have been talking about it for while now. But I still most definitely want the death update as well. I want all the realism that what keeps me playing. But I feel like it's only right to do the midwife one first because it's been talked about a few times in the past that I can remember.

AprilSmiles

Midwife, even though death does sound realistic I would rather just pick Midwife.

Queen

I always suggest death but again it would need to be “deep” like the lost of a child could cause parents dynamics to change either better or worst. Maybe mom couldn’t handle the lost of the baby and now with RPO mod never wants children or she could go to therapy and after be ready to try again but cute interaction like partner being able to assure mom things will be great or maybe a scared mood let wood pop up if mom gets spotting. It would really have to flushed out but Panda you NEVER disappoint

Brandmuffin89

Gonna be honest, neither of these interest me that much, but I prefer adding to the main mod vs something that feels not as directly related to birth for the playable sim, so death it is. May I suggest death be an optional add-on package? At this point breaking the mod into modules in general feels like a good idea, but this one for sure, I think needs to stand alone. Do you have any future plans to add more basic updates like finishing off the multiples homebirth animations or making it so sims have different belly sizes based osihow many sims they are carrying?

Simslegacy5083

This was a tough choice..lol...I want them both..lol

Inkgoddess Beaugard

Death would be amazing. It is a missing in NICU 😭

Patrycja J

The midwife career for sure. Would you be making it into a ctive career eventually? and addign a birthing center lot would be cool too

Jakyra Grantlin

I like the idea of death; however, I do play with Mortem so compatibility with that would be amazing.

Coco35xxA

The Death Update. It would definitely add more realism and drama to the game.

ChelleBelle716

Huhu Panda. :) I think your ideas for both expansions are incredible! This will bring sooo much more realism into the game and also drama. However, I voted for the midwife for now because I have had the irrepressible desire for a third child for years (8 to be exact). But since it wasn't meant to be, I thought about going to midwifery school so that I could still continue to work with babies. That didn't work out either, so I'd love to at least be a midwife in Sims. *smile* Kind regards, Mirja Feedback

Mirja

You were in my neck of the woods! We moved here from Chicago and the heat has been the hardest part to get used to...lol Either o these choices would be fine with me!

CAROL J FRITZGERALD

Definitely death for more realism and story gameplay. I'm more interested in having a midwife than my sim being one. It's also a good addition considering the new Life And Death pack coming out.

Russian Succubus

I would love it if the Midwife Sim could talk to pregnant Sims about their Job. And I would love it if the Sim could work for family, my be the Sim has to ask the option to ask to help or will be asked ?

Chip

I feel like both will add to the experience just because it would make the story lines so interesting and even more emotional with the connection with their stories.

Leigha Taylor

Death! It would make my gameplay especially for historical gameplay so more accurate!

Kylie Hill

I love them both. The midwife career would be a great addition to gameplay and storytelling, but the death addition would definitely bring a more intense and touching realism to the game. I'll be happy with either one.

Bonnie Marie

NOTE: if the pregnant sim can die with the baby still in the belly during childbirth it would be perfect...Also the father can suffers the loss of the 2

WorkOnline

I would really like the DEATH update... Personally, I think it would be very fun to live that sad and realistic episode in the game...

WorkOnline

The death is very realistic

Imjustherelol

With the loss, would there be some sort of rabbit hole or way to have the affected sims to go to counseling? I miscarried very early in my first pregnancy (I didn’t even know I was pregnant), and the grief didn’t really hit me until 3 years later. So, I hope counseling would be part of the loss. I think the loss is a natural progression of the mod, moreso than the midwife career; however, the only reason I would vote midwife career first is for that fact that it will be more universally accepted.

Angel Marie

Ooooo I love them both, but I do like to make stories out of my sims, so having the death feature would be really cool, especially if I want to do another medieval gameplay. Babies and mothers did die a lot in those times. Oh but now that I’m saying that, there were midwives for queens. Man this is conflicting lol.

narwall_0819

I love the sound of both mods. I really live realism in game and your mods are my favourite

Bexcraftdesigns

I don't like the idea of the realistic death options, life is already too dark and messed up lately with everything going on, especially overseas. It's fine if that's what people are into but I am personally not. I would much rather have the new career option, it sounds like a lot of fun. Please include an option to turn off or exclude the death content altogether if that is the option that wins, I personally do not want it in my game.

Rin

Honestly the death mod. It may not be everyone’s cup of tea, but I lost definitely love the realism in my game. No matter how dark it is.

Ayanna Faulkner

I think my only suggestion for adding death would be to have a hemorrhage be an emergency that has the potential to be fixed and keep the uterus, be fixed but lose the uterus (adds the infertile trait or somehow sets pregnancy rate to 0), or fatal. I think I’d rather have the potential for intervention like with miscarriages and in real life. This is such an amazing mod and I love how realistic you’re making things! Thank you Panda!!

Aster

bring on realism it might be dark but so is life in general

Tiana

I’m a huge fan of realistic gameplay, i always have life tragedies on as well for a little added realism. The idea of birthing death/stillbirth/child death after birth is a really nice touch to such an already realistic mod

becca

More realism, even if its hard. I miss like collapsing animations, due to dizzyness during Pregnancy in general but also because of complications.

Bibifly

Honestly both are good ideas. I’m all for new careers though because get to work definitely lacked imo, so that’s why I voted for that one, but I’d love to see both.

Esmeralda

I love both! I play my game as close to realistic as possible so I believe gameplay would benefit from the realism death would bring. I can’t wait for both new features though! And welcome back! I live in the midwest and can’t imagine living south either 😭

AbrasiveLight66

If the death one is the chosen one, can there be a way to disable it? I lost a baby and would appreciate not having to relive it again! Thanks for understanding!

Trish

These both sound amazing so it was a tough choice but I think the death aspect would give so much more realism. Also welcome back

jordan brumback

I love the idea of midwifery, but I liveeee (pun intended) for the idea of these realistic things bringing more depth to the game.

Christina West


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