No this was not meant in impel down..its placed here for story reason.
Shamim Ahmed
2025-11-09 05:47:29 +0000 UTC
Holy opening cover ts is majestical
VividDisaster
2025-11-03 19:17:35 +0000 UTC
I mean, im not claiming Garp is the greatest parental figure going around. Its clear that he cares a lot about the boys but he’s clearly conflicted about that and his duty to the marines.
Carlie & Ange
2025-11-03 07:24:48 +0000 UTC
I dno, I dont mean the whole arc. Maybe just the first few eps of this flashback arc being scattered through out Impel down as Luffy chases down his brother. Wouldve been nice symmetry in my opinion. We couldve done without majority of the Buggy and Mr 3 scenes early on.
Carlie & Ange
2025-11-03 07:21:54 +0000 UTC
Also fun fact if you ever rewatch, you'll be shocked just how early the first mention of Dadan is and we have absolutely no idea who she is for so long till now
fr0st
2025-11-03 03:09:42 +0000 UTC
Everyone: SAY THE LINE SABO!
Sabo, sadly: Dattebayo!
Everyone: cheers!
fr0st
2025-11-03 03:07:17 +0000 UTC
I am super impressed with Carlie's ear for voices here. Sabo's VA is the same as Naruto but sounds a bit older than current Naruto hence a bit less childish and silly. Solid catch on the familiar voice!
fr0st
2025-11-03 03:06:44 +0000 UTC
Ange, hear me out, if they put this before Ace died, it would be a big red flag that he was going to die. They wanted the shock factor. If anything, it should have been way back when they met ace in alabasta. If they put this in marine ford, the gut punch wouldn't have happened because you'd be able to tell that's why they were talking about ace. Or even before impel down. They would have needed like a hundred episodes inbetween to throw you off the trail.
DevilWearsAdidas
2025-11-03 02:52:51 +0000 UTC
I disagree about showing the flashback during impel down / marine Ford. I think if you see these flashbacks during that time, it would've foreshadow Ace's death a bit more. One piece has been notorious about only killing people in flashback stories, so I think it makes you start thinking about "oh wait, are they gonna kill Ace?". Whereas with how they did it, you're still kinda in denial with Ace dying even after Akainu punches Ace because "Oda never kills anyone, no way he dies."
Especially with how they tell this flashback story, I think it's important to keep it standalone and fluid in story telling. It's not something Oda just spends a couple of chapters on. It's kinda like a Saobody mini arc where it needs your full attention. Not thrown into the middle of another arc. But, just my opinion because at first I thought the same. It would've been nice to know more about Ace, but this has more impact in the long run.
Changsta
2025-11-03 01:20:57 +0000 UTC
I'm with you Ange, Garp doesn't deserve a best parent award, but he did pretty well all things considered. He knew that these mountain bandits were practically harmless and that Dadan would be a good mother figure for Ace and Luffy. Ace needed to be hidden away and Luffy did too after eating his fruit, leaving them with Makino (bar lady) wasn't an option either. And his decision is the reason why Ace and Luffy became bothers, who can be against that?
B.G.
2025-11-02 21:44:38 +0000 UTC
what does it matter if it’s an unpopular opinion or not ? It’s your opinion and you are allowed to express it
. I completely disagree with Ange here. We already had an overflow of characters and lots of events happening in Impel Down. introducing a flashback back then would’ve done nothing but diluting the story and cutting into the tension that is the race to save Ace. On top of that this flashback is one of the longest and deserved to be treated with care. I also was thinking about the point you made, that ace‘s death means nothing because we didn’t know much about him at the time. You could say the very same about whitebeard, even more so because we knew him even less. I’m holding it with BonChan here: friendship has nothing to do with how long we have known each other. The same goes for morning the death of a character.
D Q
2025-11-02 17:43:54 +0000 UTC
21:11 completely disagree with you Ange. We already had an overflow of characters and lots of events happening in Impel Down. introducing a flashback back then would’ve done nothing but diluting the story and cutting into the tension that is the race to save Ace
D Q
2025-11-02 17:39:36 +0000 UTC
24:24 Ange you cannot be serious to even think about giving Garp credit for dumping the kids into some mountain bandits home, which he then forced to take care of the kids by blackmailing them. saying he works miles away and he at least cared enough to make them look after is nothing to be proud of. He just couldn’t leave them in the forest so he looked for the closest thing that wouldn’t get him into trouble with hiding Ace from the world government. Truly baffled by your comments here.
D Q
2025-11-02 17:38:56 +0000 UTC
Loved the opening cover!!it's one of my favorites 😍 ❤️
shlomit5577
2025-11-02 16:42:17 +0000 UTC
It’s interesting, because when I showed to my partner the Marineford arc, he also said he barely knew Ace for him to feel bad about his death and felt this flashback had a weird placement. But for me Ace’s death didn’t wreck me because of my feeling towards him as a character (in fact, if I had have a segment for a crew back on my first watch, he wouldn’t have made it to my crew like yours), it was because of how much he meant to Luffy, watch my favorite anime character go through all of that because of how much he loved his brother and then lose him anyway… man, that makes me cry even after several rewatches, and with time, even after this flashback, you come to realize the impact he had in the story 😭
Ace became an important character to me AFTER he died. I don’t know if this is an unpopular opinion THB 😂