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Mushoku Tensei Ep 4 FULL REACTION!

How could you Paul....

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"The house is cursed" No it's not, it's just the two perverts constantly fucking and causing everyone around to be constantly in the mood. Also in Mushoku Tensei, one man having several women isn't considered "bad", except for the church of Millis. ...Zenith IS part of the church of Millis. But Sylphie isn't so she doesn't care. And Zenith knows Paul didn't rape Lilia, but it gave her an exit between "keep employing the maid whose my husband cheat me with" and "send my maid to die away with her unborn child". Saying "my husband forced the maid so now i take care of this jerk's victim" is...kind of more honorable?

Azer S

I know im mega late but during the opening song the "wait wait wait wait, what do you mean??" from Carlie (because of Paul being scum) followed by Ange's "this song's in threes." really killed me lol

MrSaucyAlfredo

Ok thebok says why they hire her She blackmailed paul , she brought up whqt hedid to her before and said if u dont hire me everyone willl know, because her father kicked her out for having sex before marriage

demonic-myst

I think it's worth mentioning that, while Paul is 100% a scumbag for cheating on his wife, Sylphie might not think it's the weirdest thing in the world because of the "social norms" of their world. Even in our IRL world today, there are places where men have multiple wives. Hell, even in the US. So, not that I'm endorsing any behavior in this show, but I think we need to remember that these characters are part of their OWN world with its own rules, both social and political. Also, you did realize that Paul sent Rudeus away after he asked how Rudy would feel if he told him not to see Sylphy anymore, right? Could that possibly have been something GOOD our scummy Paul was doing? Don't miss out on those nuances. The character's are grey.

The Great Santini

I like that the show takes pains to show how uncomfortable and even scared Rudeus’ behavior makes the women in his life. It’s important, and especially in this relatively grounded medieval setting, it’s obviously very common for women to be victimized sexually. My main friend group recently cut this dude off because he kept being creepy towards the women in it. Like me and some of the other guys sat him down and talked to him about it, *very* gently, but he just didn’t get what was wrong about constantly hitting on female friends who’d made it clear they weren’t interested. Rudeus still has a long way to, unfortunately. But Rome wasn’t built in a day, and one’s personal toxic masculinity can’t be deconstructed that easily.

Graham

It’s vary sad…but kinda funny to see yu guys be like Paul was new new neighbor that you guys were expecting to hang out with a lot only to find out next day he a online troll… I’m sorry for yur loss. So yah back to that genetics conversation, the Grayrat family is know for having a vary big deserve that some might call it a curse, Rudeus is just unlucky to have his memories of being a first in his past life combined with this genetic drive. I am glad we do get to see his fillings wen needed, him admiring Lillia is like family and he disenchant her go felt vary genuine I sincerely believe that now that Paul has been me tooed he’s not ok will not restraining himself from his scum personality but he I think is happy that Ruddy is somewhat like him, it’s kinda sickening , hope I’m using that slang right. No both Paul and Lillia are the too blame for this, Zenith is the victim here her husband and friend betrayed her. Mrs Carly is right on how to pronounce the capital that Roxy is at. And it’s Ga-lane Lilia is now listed as Lillia Grayrat in the credits when she had no last name listed before this episode. Rudy also got not one but two sisters like he wanted. Age counter Rudy is of this episode 6-7 years old. Letcher Child

Shota Tsunamura

not sure if you missed it last epiode, but it was said by paul that womanizing runs in the greyrat family

Edge

Not them gassing up Paul last episode and then the next one they are devastated lmao.

Daaylen Watson

one of the best things of the animes are the the intros end endings, they always show us more of the World, anytime new with the same song

Mr. MeArgi

The show is basically all about second chances and flawed characters, most of the characters are flawed in one way or another, growing to be better people, they will never become paragons of virtue or saints but they are realistic living characters that grow to be better people than they were before. That also means calling out their flaws is the right thing to do, you are supposed to see those flaws and recognize them as such, and then be open to see them grow from there (which you seem to be). As for Sylphy not finding it weird that there are suddenly two wifes/babies, in most of their world monogamy isn't a set rule, it's more a matter of personal preference and practicality, if you are ok with it and can support it financially you are free to have multiple spouses (technically also in all directions). The only exception to this are those following the Millis faith, which Zenith is, making the whole situation even worse as Paul specifically swore to live a monogamous life with Zenith. (Well even without that there is a difference between proper polygamy/polyamory and fucking your servant behind your spouses back, so even if Zenith wasn't a follower of Millis this would be bad)

Ryuuji Gremory

Someone probably already said this but i will give some non-spoiler info that the anime don't touch but are in the novel and give a better understanding of some situations: 1-Demons are not like in DemonSlayer, its just a race like Ghislaine is a BeastFolk(or Beast Race), Roxy is a Demon from the demon continent as said in a previous episode, most races have their own continent or country. 2-Rudy unknowingly made Paul pay for his assault on Lillia when they where teen since then he run away from home has said in ep3 and as you pointed why she is working here now Lillia was a royal guard and remain heavily injured on duty and so unable to continue that job and having difficulties finding another due to her injury that's when she found a job offer as a maid in Buena Village and while she was ready to blackmail Paul to take her in as the house maid or she would have told Zenith what he did to her, that wasn't necessary since he accepted her without problem and even gave her a better pay the offer said. 3-Last but not least while in this world polygamy is a common thing and is not unusual to have mistresses or out of marriage rapports(especially for Asura Nobility, Buena Village where we currently are is in the Asura Kingdom that is also where Paul is from) Zenith grew up in Millis that is a kingdom heavily based on religion, a religion where the marriage is a must to be monogamous that's why the Paul betrayal hit her even harder. Hope you will enjoy the watch and yes calling out Rudy scummy behavior is the most sane thing to do to enjoy the show honestly so his character development will also be noticed better.

Paperbeef

Ghislaine is pronounced "Ghi-Lane" :)

C Ng

The way carlie yells at the same time and the same things alongside zenith to paul was so funny xd

AngelFr0m Sky

Your opinion on characters will be swayed left and right a lot in this show because most of them are very flawed but the character progression is also really good. Just like a war hero who has saved many allied soldiers can be a terrible human personality wise, the morals and what is considered good or bad in this story is painted in a whole lot of grey.

Jacob Christoffersson

Equating watching MT with diddy cosplay is so brainless lol. Please don't come back. :)

Rex Tan

It's gonna get worse from here but Rudeus character will pick up

tracee miasco

In the webnovel, which is the original draft of the author, Rudeus was watching his naked niece. In the lightnovel which is when published by a publisher as a physical copy, the author removed that part and turned it to porn.

tracee miasco

we dont care lol its just a show its not that deep. Nobody is celebrating pedo behaviour. Its just a story

tracee miasco

Paul did say "womanizing runs deep in the Greyrat family" last episode, they were trying to prepare you haha

YellowboyRickLee

It's really only one person that is being a problem. They have already canceled sub last week, hopefully they will stop coming back every episode soon.

Renaud Nadeau

that was just a hentai video, that's not a spy cam wtf

Alisher

quite a bit was cut from the light novel. inner monologue, additional dialogue/scenese to flesh out things more. there are also multiple chapters of just pov from other characters

Andriss

Finally thank god he's gone bye lol and please don't come back

Arshes Nei

To anyone who want to respond to this, please don't, it's not worth your time.

Metatempo

For the ones who voted for Mushoku: Just don't reply to those comments that are meant to wage war. Ignore them so that we can be at peace watching C&A reactions. They already say they won't drop the show.

Khoi Pham

Yhea I've been loving you guys reaction for a long time and was hyped for naruto in the futur but I just can't, this show and its pedo fan just revolt me too much. And I lost all will to look at the rest of the content knowing that this is here. So good job to all the diddy cosplay here you won you can keep patting yourself on the back while celebrating an adult character grooming and having sex with children. I've cancel my subsicription and any notification until I don't have access anymore. I really enjoyed previous reaction for a while so thanks C and A but also I hope you realize what's this "show" really is. bye

Matthias

Yes it was cut. This information was in the light novel

Silver

was that cut from the anime? i mean it had to of i dont remember them mentioning it

Noctis

alright he did deserve it haha

Cédric Chabert

he was jerking off to a spy cam of his niece...

LuciusArtoriusCastus

By the way, there's a lot in this show that's going to make you uncomfortable. It's not an easy watch a lot of the time, but the show has no pretences about being a wholesome family anime. There are parts where you absolutely should be disgusted, made to feel uncomfortable, repulsed or otherwise appalled. But that's what makes this show an interesting character portrait. Fiction absolutely should examine the darker aspects of humanity.

Orion

wasn't it just porn? maybe Im wrong with this specific case. But the constant judgement is tiring. nobody is perfect. preaching good values is good but tolerance should be part of it. I guess we're just too used to shallow animes.

Cédric Chabert

Even though I love mushoku tensei (just look my pfp) He did deserved to be punched, because It was not the fact that he was masturbating, it was WHAT was he masturbating to.

Racc

This episode was like one of those marriage drama reality shows. This is when I realized this show is BUILT DIFFERENT.

Xan

People are judging too easily. this anime is great because the characters are flawed. look yourself in the mirror. we're all flawed. Even last episode saying Rudy deserved to be punched because he was masturbating.. I mean yeah..people masturbate> and now we're punching people because they're not coping death the way we want to? Some tolerance please

Cédric Chabert

BROTHER!!! Gasoline???? 😂😂😂😂😂

Racc

lot of amazing characters who just happen to be terrible people in this show

Jeff C

You're going to find that this show is far from cliche. It'll be hard to predict many of the important points and themes in the story. Just to kind of orient you guys, Ange was right, it's more of a setup right now. Usually shows take 1 maybe 2 episodes for this, but this show fleshes it out which has big payoffs later. I don't know if you guys will end up enjoying the series in the end, but I hope you guys at least find some enjoyment in it. Though, I'm worried about ep 6, I don't know if I can watch it and I just wish you guys could skip over the parts in there.... Also, I don't think Ange even touched on or reacted to Ghislaine's outfit did he? Is this a sign he's becoming desensitized ? :o

Synnel

Yeah this show keeps you on your toes. It's pretty uncomfortable at times, but I think it makes for a good viewing. And good reactions! haha Please feel free to keep slamming these character. There's no shortage of scumbags for sure.

Andres Urquijo

One of my favorite parts about Mushoku Tensei is how many side characters come and go and how exciting it is to see each of them return. I'm glad you're seeing this with Roxy

Aaron Griffin

Everything you guys want and hope for in terms of character development will happen, but you will need to be patient. It gets worst before it gets better...

Xan

This show crazy

vojeeisgaming

To reiterate the OP. It changes throughout the season but at certain points. You will notice it when it happens.

Renaud Nadeau

My jaw was on the floor when I first saw this episode, felt like the real first turning point of the show

FTN Chicken

This anime is why I don't openly tell to people that I watch anime

Xemnas

I think what people are saying about the opening isn't so much about the song and more that the show doesn't cut to an opening and instead has the song play over scenes that just are continuing the story

Night Sterling

Just remember this is another world think of it like its in the world of the game of throne. Paul usually comes from a family where he could marry multiple wives so that's why its not weird to them. Zenith was still hurt by it but zenith knew who Paul was she knew what he did to Lilia and she knows he's a womanizer he says so himself.

RunAwayCloak

This is exactly it. I've never really seen this handled from the lens it was handled with here. It's interesting and unique

Aaron Griffin

The reason why Zenith readily sided with Rudy over the whole Lilia thing is because it was the first time Zenith saw Rudy care about his family in a way a child would. Since he's always been so aloof, Zenith often worried that Rudy didn't love his family. Also it's not uncommon in this world for men to have multiple wives depending if you don't follow certain religions. Paul officially married Lilia after this

Silver

The degeneracy runs deep 😂

Lark

Aaaaaan its gone 😂

Night Sterling

Please pick Re:Zero S3 up. More than half the episodes are rated above 9.0.

Vilicity

The mature topics that are addressed in this series is rare to see discussed in modern popular anime shows. Which is why I love and find this show so entertaining. It doesn’t shy away from controversial and uncomfortable topics. I think that’s one of the strong points of this show.

MrYinYang

Carlie last episode: “Paul just got 30% hotter”

Lark


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