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NEW POLL!

Hey legends!

It's that time where everyone is SUPER friendly with each other in the comment section! We have a brand new poll up and we really like the variety we have on this one. These are some series that we have really liked the look of but have not gotten a chance to watch just yet. These are all highly requested series both on Patreon and on Youtube. If your suggestions are not in these options, don't worry because there'll be plenty more opportunities later on. The winner of this poll will be taking the Legend of Korra time slot. We won't be starting for a few weeks while we take the time to get up to date with some of our other series! Be nice in the comments!! ❤️

Comments

I wish Patreon would say exactly how many votes each are getting. Seeing these two at 33% every day is stressing me out

FTN Chicken

Yeah Konosuba would be the better choice but its has 0 chance of winning here. So lets atleast try MT

Nethzil

Wasn't death note dropped because of a personal issues. Something about a heart attack or something that was just too close to home for them

Omar Bautista

This is intense. Expecting the next poll with Code Geass in it.

John Mark

omg mashle and mushoku tied at 33% each

hermi

Death Note was like the 3rd or 4th anime they were gonna watch. They've seen a lot worse shit since then, they can handle it. And as other comments have pointed out, Mushoku has been on multiple polls; they know about its "controversies" (they're not) and are still interested in watching.

ImZeaT

But your comments defending pedophilia are okay? Get a grip

Waver

The lengths people go to defend pedophilia amazes me

CRuEL_WOrlD

I'd be shocked if they don't drop it. If Death Note was too much then I think borderline CP is too much

Waver

man i hope this doesn't end up a rezero/ mob psycho moment where the percentage is the same but we lose by 3 votes or something like that

Noctis

I hope windbreaker

King Domingo

I wonder how they'll fair with Jobless. The beginning can be ROUGH for some people. The show does not pull punches, and it can be a bit slow to start. It is a great story though.

Jarren Jenkins

class room and konosuba are awesome picks as well but jobless is too goated man

Noctis

JOBLEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS i NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD SEE THIS ON THE POLL LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Noctis

Regardless of who wins, I hope they watch both of the top voted series considering how close the vote is. It would still be less than half the length of my hero at around 72 episodes.

Squall-2170

Nah Konosuba is just top tier. Mushoku is too but I feel like they'll be weirded out by it.

Jacob Christoffersson

Windbreaker is so perfect for them 😭, very sad that it does not have much hype. It's like a fighting anime with really cool fight choreography and just the right amount of wholesomeness. And it's pretty short too. Lol maybe next time

Diksha Upadhyay

Just the fact that Mushoku is in this poll is a joke, but I guess what really matters are the numbers

Luana Torres

@Nessa that sounds like a solid plan. They need to be made aware 9f these kind of comments. I screenshot it in case he deletes it.

Uuraami Chan

You need help my friend.

Uuraami Chan

Uuraami Chan, don't pay attention to the crazy psycho in the comments, but let's report them to C&A because those are some crazy comments and accusations that they are writing (I've blocked them personally).

Nessa.

Closet pedos are coming to light

CRuEL_WOrlD

Does your family know you a pedo?

CRuEL_WOrlD

@Matthias so far he had no sex with any minors so you must have watched the wrong show lol

Tibbers

Best pedo anime yes i agree

CRuEL_WOrlD

Like kendrick said the Pedos flock together

CRuEL_WOrlD

Watch Baki

Dj Lee

Mushoku still a better anime overall, mashle its the kind of animes you watch it in one day, have a little bit of fun and forget about it the next day

Yam

Bro is just straight up lying to the people so they don’t vote for MT

FTN Chicken

You are right :), they talked about it here : https://www.patreon.com/posts/message-from-118662983

Nessa.

about 25 actually since there's two seasons but still worth it.

Dune

mashle is like 12 episodes so to everyone who wanna see others shows they like on here, if you vote mashle you'll get them way faster than the other one that has like multiple seasons.

Matthias

It didn't got a big hype when it came out so most people who watch a few anime based on popularity, never heard of it. It is great tho but since it's not winning do you think you could change your vote to mashle so the show where an actual adult have sex with 14 yo don't win ?

Matthias

MF he LITERALY have sex with 2 minors, you're actually a pedo it's insane.

Matthias

mushoku haters ? lol sorry for being agaisnt pedophilia I guess.

Matthias

Someone correct me if I am wrong but said after my hero is finished.

Uuraami Chan

Here we go again with equal % votes

MrWell

To add to everything else the comparison to Mineta doesn't even hold water as in contrast to Mineta Rudy actually grows and develops a ton.

Ryuuji Gremory

They want to start some time this year

Phil

Do Carlie & Ange ever plan on watching Naruto one day? I'm new to this channel.

Xelvania

your point in 1. is the same as the nazi example. It is very different to use an actual event vs a fictional event under the same premise (hence overlord example). To add to this though, this point runs under the same logical premise as the video game violence premise which has been studied rather extensively and to this day has not been able to show causation between video game violence to real life persuasion. It runs under the same premise that liking a game like GTA is tied directly to reasonable assumptions about your character in real life. If positive portrayal of morally reprehensible actions showed strong correlation of normalization or adoption in society, the studies actively researching this field and pushing for laws against such things would have shown at least some semblance of success within the past decade plus of the push from this field. In terms of killing being worse than rape, I would say to each their own, but I do think my view on this is rather sound as it is shown in a majority of country's laws that by a majority will priotize the former charge much higher than the latter, there is a reason to it whether a person agrees with that or not.

Jay

[Disclaimer: I voted for MT and this is intentional friendly fire] The idea that there is 'no immediate victim, so moral consideration is not needed for producing and consuming fictional content' is probably the most willfully ignorant argument I see online. The problem with content portraying social/morally reprehensible acts in a positive light is twofold. 1. We judge each other based on our decision-making and what we enjoy. If you regularly consume immoral content, it is entirely reasonable for people to make character judgments based on that. If I enjoyed watching terrorist beheading videos every day, my good friends better be damn concerned. 2. Before and ignoring point 1.. Positive portrayals of morally reprehensible acts normalize them. I hate to generalize and condemn an entire culture, but damn, look at Japanese entertainment... anyway. A moral actor in a society is entirely justified to be outraged and actively seek the prohibition of normalizing immorality. You surely must see this? ESPECIALLY WHEN THOSE ACTS ARE EXPLICITY PREDATORY. (I'm purposefully not going to address you acting like killing someone is a worse act than statutory rape. Logic fully died there.) Now, I'm not saying you can never portray such acts. As long as you do so responsibly. I think MT does a decent job of portraying Rudeus' degeneracy negatively or showing the acceptance of the world he's found himself in as negative.(like damn the nobles literally have children sex slaves) But I think it's fair to disagree, and many scenes in MT made me uncomfortable enough to fast forward. Not everyone understands that you aren't supposed to self-insert as the protagonist in every story and that character/world-building in fiction doesn't always mean "the ideal world". Wait until those people find out about GoT or Warhammer 40k.

Sneaky

They talked about it in their End of the Year/New Year video update, they are going to watch Naruto this year (2025), once they are caught up with MHA. They only have 3 seasons left and they react to 12 episodes every month, so in basically 6 months (around August-September maybe), they'll start Naruto. Link : https://www.patreon.com/posts/message-from-118662983

Nessa.

Windbreaker is such good show why is no one voting for it? 😭

Glory

Mashle its one of those animes that you can watch in 1 day and forget everything about it the next day lol

Yam

@Matthias you clearly didn't watch the show and just read a "review" of a random person on Twitter XD

Yam

Its a good comedy show, yeah, but thats it

Yam

Bro pls, don't let mashle win what the heck? LMAO

Yam

We can win this mushoku fans, don't let win mashle just for being mushoku haters!!!

AngelFr0m Sky

Classroom of the elite and wind breaker are underrated but they're not winning so I voted for mashle

Peer Zoro

Yes, konosuba it’s amazing but sadly it’s not winning pls give the votes for mushoku and then all the mushoku fans are going to vote for konosuba in the next poll

AngelFr0m Sky

@Yoann he's saying this kinda stuff under all MT post. Just let him be. We all see what he is trying to do.

Uuraami Chan

Its Konosuba, the literal peak of fiction.

Ft3

Tell me you didn't watch it

Yoann Bigor

It's literaly just an incel fantasy, 50 yo looser go to other world want to have sex with children have sex with said children he groomed, that's it. There are no subjects it is literaly just a fkcing PDF fantasy.

Matthias

I think was in the poll of parasyte maybe when they end it, in that poll it’s going to have fate in the options and I think it’s going to be Patreon exclusive

AngelFr0m Sky

Hi there, Mushoku is probably one of the best fantasy show out there but it is hard, and difficult subjects are displayed without any balance of good and bad. So i'll recommand it because it describes thoses subjects very well but it can be triggering

Yoann Bigor

I think was in the poll of parasyte maybe when they end it, in that poll it’s going to have fate in the options and I think it’s going to be Patreon exclusive

AngelFr0m Sky

Cmon Mushoku and konosuba bros we can win this!!!!!

AngelFr0m Sky

I'm not super familiar with the other 3 shows and refuse to speak ill of them but MT is god tier anime. I'm not even an isekai fan.

Uuraami Chan

"Its not even top 3" I mean... Speak for yourself? It obviously is top 3 for that person lol, whats the point of your comment exactly? Except saying "Hum Actually what I like is better🤓"

Marc Senécal

Oh my god, really? I am so happy to hear that. I though that they would not react to it since they are already in One Piece

Hana Mik

fate is a little, wild.. sometimes but the fights and animation are cool

S021

I mean, it might be funny and silly, but it's not even top 3 animes within these choices alone...

ImZeaT

don’t let MASHLE lose! this anime is funny and silly. you guys would enjoy it!!

Angelica

Waiting for Fate ☹️

The King of Raw

I feel you. There are just so many ethically controversial scenes. I recommended this show to a few friends before, but the MC's behavior just ruined their experience

Beast

Can anyone please tell me what happened to Fate? It finished second in the last poll, and I believe it was pretty close. So why didn't it become one of the candidates here? Also, I hope they get to watch Grand Blue—it's very funny and only 12 episodes long.

Beast

I want to see Fate, Inuyasha or Dr Stone

Jesus Rocha

I want classroom of the elite to win but it seems impossible now... I don't know if I want mashle to win just coz I find MT disturbing since mashle is just comedy, tho it's very enjoyable and I love the protag. MT has more depth even tho I find it uncomfortable to watch.

Killuazoldyck

I did but then I got baited into participating *fml* I'm going to go touch grass. See y'all on the premier of the MT reactions lmao.

Sneaky

If you understand it's not fan service then it shouldn't be difficult to understand it is not supposed to be supportive of "PDF content" but portrayal of a huge problematic portion of the anime community/Japanese culture. MC is literally a weeb degen. If you don't understand the difference whatever, hate on it. The value of such portrayals are debatable so it's entirely understandable and reasonable to be disturbed or outraged. Btw the main characters in MDUD are 15, and some are portrayed physically as prepubescent. No sexualization of minors is ok. Hot take ik.

Sneaky

A real expansion on genres would be adding something like magical girl or school idol anime LOL. MT is still just general main stream stuff that most re-actioners watch. No hate on them, though. Not everyone can enjoy certain genre. But i think some magical girl show is really good and would be worth reacting to. Like Madoka Magica or Lyrical Nanoha. Especially Madoka, it have a strong loyal fanbase and there's more reaction channel react to it lately, and it gets received well by the audience.

Hoa Trương

just let them watch it at this point and get this over with. I'm tired of seeing it appear in every poll. If we let them have what they want, we'll get other stuff in the poll next time.

Hoa Trương

I'm so happy that MT is winning. :') In the meantime, I've started Mashle because I was curious to see what this was about, and it's a cute and funny show. Very entertaining. It's pretty far behind Mushoku Tensei in terms of interesting discussions to have about it but it's funny. Not an unforgettable anime like MT (trust me, you can't forget MT haha), but the quality, the jokes and the visuals are really good. A good anime to pass the time or when you want to laugh. Great voice actors too.

Nessa.

A lot of people have been saying that as an excuse to not vote for mushoku under this poll, but who are we to decide what series they enjoy or not? If they feel like they don't enjoy the series they can drop it anytime and just watch another one, the pull is for us to decide, not what series they're gonna enjoy, but what series we enjoy, their job is to entertain after all, if the show is controversial it bring more clicks and money, that's how I see it at least

Tibbers

I've said it multiple times in the comments, but Carlie and Ange are the ones who put MT in the poll, and this is not the first time they've done so, so trust me, they know and still want to watch it. They know about the controversy, they've been told many times. No one forced them to put MT in the poll, they did it because they want to watch it or because they are curious about it. It's not about us thinking they'll like it. It's about Carlie and Ange being curious and wanting to watch it. I quote "These are some series that we have really liked the look of but have not gotten a chance to watch just yet." If it's on the poll, it means that they think that they are probably going to like it . Is it going to be the case ? I don't know, I don't see the future and they can always drop the show, just like they dropped Death Note because that's not the type of shows they like.

Nessa.

no one thinks early MT is fan service. It's not "misunderstood", it's literally just PDF content. MDUD is fan service, MT is not.

zzip711

Yes my bad lemme fix that

Marc Senécal

Subaru? You mean Rudeus lol

Salem

If MT wins, I will vote Konosuba next just for you, my guy!

Russell Wee

I think the significant difference is the problematic parts of MT stem from intentional character traits/behaviors of the MC. Where in MDUD the MC was wholesome and respectful in intent. I think people misunderstand a lot of early MT, scenes that aren't supposed to be fan service interpreted as such. But whatever Rudy *is* an absolute degenerate so who knows how they'll react. I like deeply flawed characters so maybe Im the sicko. I also enjoyed Game of thrones and every other character is a pedo or sister lover.

Sneaky

People really think they are gonna enjoy Mushoku? Kinda seems to me like the very opposite of what they enjoy no? If they hate characters like Mineta there's no way they don't despise Rudeus ESPECIALLY since he's an adult.. Nothing wrong with giving it a try I guess but I would honestly be extremely surprised if they do end up enjoying it.

Marc Senécal

I don’t have a horse in this race so I’m not arguing but they did say that fan service doesn’t bother them too much as long as it’s adults. They said fan service of minors does make them a bit uncomfortable. They said that in response to someone asking if MDUD was too much for them.

Kaycee

No it never won any poll

Nethzil

Didn`t they supposed to watch Fate?

Igor

The whole MT debate reminds me of My Dress Up Darling. When that show was on the poll A LOT of people tried to talk you out of it as well, saying you wont like it. Now, im not saying that the problematic scenes in MT and MDUD are the same, so being fine with MDUD doesnt mean that you will be fine with MT, all im saying is that the outraged people are usually wrong (unless you only pretended to be fine with MDUD and would rather not have watched it, then you will certainly have problems with MT as well).

Alexiel Knight

How has Fate fallen so far

Matt Rhinehart

Yes my Mushoku brothers at arms!! We will be triumph!!!

LilYoha

Thanks i love konosuba too, such an amazing and unique anime and for me its the most funny anime/series ive seen, literally had me laughing out loud and at the moment cry from laugther.

AngelFr0m Sky

No, If you don't try new things and expand your limits you don't really know if you like something or not. They didnt like to see steins gate at all but it was something different and their discussions and theories were interesting

AngelFr0m Sky

I watched the whole anime and not just a few episodes like you so I clearly know its not the type of show you think it is :)

Nethzil

Got your Popcorn ?

Nethzil

Whenever Konosuba will have a decent chance I will vote for it.

Nethzil

Idk if C&A will actually enjoy the show, but I know MT will make for a interesting reaction/discussion. Does that make me a bad person?

FTN Chicken

please lord let mushoku win

Cassii

@greyxwaren I really fail to see how it treats SA lightly or uses it as form of entertainment. Justifying Rudy's behavior because he's physically 14 is obviously wrong but every time stuff happens the show presents it in the most uncomfortable and negative way possible. People would not have as much of an issue with the show if it did treat that stuff lightly. A good counter example is Oshi no Ko: a show in which a 30 some year old doctor reincarnates and then uses his advanced knowledge and experience in order to get onto a dating show and manipulate 16 year olds into romantic encounters with him so he can emotionally manipulate them into furthering his goals of revenge. Imo it's equally disgusting but people don't raise a big stink about it because it's downplayed so heavily by the show. I don't see the same thing happening in Mushoku Tensei; nearly every scene in that vein is presented in the most negative, creepy light possible. Mushoku's message from a literary standpoint is that "bad" people are capable of learning, changing, and improving if given the chance, the right support system, and a second chance. In order to demonstrate that though, the main character has to be a "bad" person and the kind of person who willingly does things like SA in order for them to demonstrate change and growth during their "second chance" and that they improve willingly (by existing in world in which it would be easy for them to continue to be an awful person). That is, to demonstrate in a realistic way a person changing from someone who willing does SA to someone who doesn't, the character has to do SA at the start and then be presented with the option later and refuse. It's possible you disagree with the core message that criminals are capable of rehabilitation but that's a disagreement with the core philosophy of the show and not about it "glorifying" or "treating lightly" SA. The reason those moments are so uncomfortable are because the main character is doing bad things and they are presented accordingly and appropriately and the reason it gets better later is because the character has changed for the better (the main theme of the show).

o7

I’m not saying you can’t vote on a show you’d prefer them to watch. There’s a difference between voting in a poll and replying to several comments on this post, trying to convince people that the show isn’t worth watching.

Gabriel Barott

You don't need to like the MC in order to enjoy a show, I don't like Rudy but still love the music/world/story of MT.

Lazy

it's a poll where we're literally deciding what they should watch next....what do you mean i can't decide what they should watch next lmao

greyxwaren

it's not even low media literacy lmao. low media literacy is when a piece of fiction is discussing a controversial and heavy theme, usually told by an unreliable narrator in order to criticize it. MT does none of that, it uses SA as form of entertainment (which it fails to do bcs surprise surprise no one enjoys SA material) it jokes about it treats it lightly and not in a way to coitize it or even invites the viewer to "think about it in a deeper way" as some of you tried to sell it as. the mc gets rewarded and the show tries to push him down our throats that we somehow supposed to like him or feel sorry for him. i noticed a lot of you try to dismiss those of us who don't want to see it win as intellectually inferior or that we're childish (over a pdf show over all things lmaoooo) when in reality you guys refuse to describe the show you're recommending for what it really is. if there is nothing really wrong with it defend it instead of saying "well the direction is great, the music is great, the animation is AMAZING just ignore those uncomfy moments it gets better later" please explain those uncomfy moments and explain when and how does it get better isntead of beating around the bush and lying about the mc's age (legit saw someone who WATCHED THE SHOW go "nuh uh hes 14 hes not a pedo :/" like????? if you're so knowledgeable about isekais you know damn well that man is in his 40's

greyxwaren

Mashle is a "fun" anime with a really basic story. Mushoku is almost masterpiece-level. I miss deeper and longer anime like Mushoku from this channel. (=Ignoring OP and MyHero for a moment :D)

Zippi Kgg

dungeon meshi is so their vibe too!

greyxwaren

Pls konosuba fans, im a konosuba fan too and im with love with that isekai but sadly its not winning, pls give the votes for mushoku and for sure the next poll the mushoku fans are going to vote for konosuba.

AngelFr0m Sky

Mushoku Tensei please, it's a fantastic anime

IzVito

C&A; hey guys, let's be nice to each other in the comments *500+ comments with 9 days remaining* oh lord

Sneaky

I'm in the exact same boat. Honestly, the MT outrage is making me look forward to it all the more.

Sneaky

C'mon guys, we can't let MASHLE lose! It's exactly the type of content Carlie and Ange would enjoy and it's so funny and enjoyable to watch, they'd have a great time ❤️

Phoenix

Your logic runs under the same logic as the video game violence logic that has been disproven time and time again, study after study. People that take entertainment from going on mass killing sprees in GTA for example, show zero causation with translating anything from that to real life. You can be completely comfortable and fine with fiction that would be morally reprehensible irl while having zero connection to enjoying that in a real life setting. Killing is arguably worse yet for many shows its just this silly thing and none of these come under scrutiny but suddenly with the topics you're mentioning the logic is different? It's perfectly normal to have different preferences, and if MT is not to yours, that is also normal. What isn't normal is judging people's real life disposition based on their preference that differs from yours for the above reasons.

Jay

Metatempo This is a deflection. I don't "need" Mushoku to justify it being bad. I'd rather it not have these things to begin with lmao. The issue is that it exists at all and THEN pretends that it's cool. It's gross as fuck and it's clear the author is living out his gross pedophile fantasy through Rudeus. Nothing you can say will excuse this. "I can see people hating the show if you systematically self insert yourself in main characters but if you are watching the show as a spectator instead, I don't see why it's a problem to like a show who describe the harsh reality of a different world than ours." This is another attempt at deflection. "Erm I guess if you're some doofus who self inserts as the MC, that's weird." Cool attempt to pretend that anyone who dislikes the show is just a self-inserter? It isn't "describing the harsh reality," it's just having an old man perv on kids and it's pretending like it's normal or that it's a joke. It also intentionally sexualizes these kids to the viewer. If it was just ABOUT a pedophile, I probably wouldn't care. I can handle stories with bad characters. The point is how you present it or treat it in the story. It's a gross ecchi show where half the subjects of fanservice are small children. The fact that you're even attempting to defend this is kinda pathetic. No amount of cool worldbuilding should justify this for you.

Chimpman

@Jeff Doubtful. Considering how uncomfortable the beginning part of Dandadan made them and how Mineta makes them feel. no way. It's best to steer clear of the show, anyways. All anyone does is try to justify how shitty Rudy is constantly. It's super annoying.

Chimpman

No, Rick. He's in his 40s and is using the fact that he's a 40 year old in a child's body to take advantage of other children. You're delusional.

Chimpman

NGL watching 90 percent of their reactions they can definitely take mushoku

Jeff

would be awesome if Total Drama Island got added to a poll in the future

Simon

Yeah not really interested in any of this shows, and i do agree with the dungen meshi idea in the other comments, i hope to see it on the polls in the future

Alvaro Gutierrez

no he is 14 or something.

rick zeyener

entertain what the mc is 34

kbm

Did you watch the anime ?

kbm

@Nethzil dont entertain their comments. They are just trying to be inflammatory.

Uuraami Chan

Explain please ?

Nethzil

I haven’t really been interested in any of the shows on the past few polls. I hope delicious in dungeon makes it onto a poll I’ve seen it recommended a lot in the comment sections of said past few polls lol

Kaycee

MT is pdf file show that only weirdos would like here i said it

kbm

Mushoki Tensei Voters, WE GOT THIS!!!! Unite as one!!!

Uuraami Chan

you don't know people life. So don't judge. What if i say you only ever watch ecchi harem anime huh ?

Hoa Trương

None of the show here I'm interested in. And i don't like MT so really don't know what to vote. i hope next time we will see Delicious in dungeon or Ranking of kings or Madoka magica on the poll

Hoa Trương

it's simple. A lot of people don't like to following a MC they hate and feel disgusted about regardless of how good the story is. We have plenty of wonderful show out there, don't need to endure watching a character we don't like and refuse to cheer for.

Hoa Trương

Watch Magi: The Labyrinth of Magic!! Please, it's so good! One of my favorite animes ever <3

AceCookie

@Kai It is like saying One Peace is only about oversexualized big titty, hourglass shaped females, or that Demon Slayer is Child Sexualizing because Nezuko who shrinks to a child due to her demon powers but her body grows older when using the powers (by extension getting thicker legs, longer body and growing breasts). That is just untrue and plain disrespect to art (that begins wild but grows into a very captivating story). Just because a story doesn't suit your taste... doesn't mean it is bad... you are just free to skip it. Just like me skipping the trash pacing of one peace and waiting until I can binge the whole arc because the story while not the best Anime story ever written is interesting to me. Pushing your own ideals over others is just... with all due respect childish.

Semir Tahir

MT for the win

Muni

Exactly, which is pretty sad considering Mashle will take a slot and will have little to average engagement just because a lot of people voted for it not because they want to watch it, but to avoid MT winning - some did vote for it because they like it. On the other hand, most people who voted for MT actually want to engage with that content and discuss what there is to discuss. Just by reading the comments, one can tell which show is the most interesting and have people reacting to it the most and which show is barely mentioned, except for its OP… But this is a democracy and we voted, that’s how it is

Nessa.

its not just weird at the beginning,its weird at the middle and end as well lmao

lololol

I won't waste my time and justify myself, I consume a ton of different media (anime, mangas books, LN...). If you need a show to justify that being a weirdo / pedophile is a bad thing, I'm sorry to say that you have a low media literacy level. I can see people hating the show if you systematically self insert yourself in main characters but if you are watching the show as a spectator instead, I don't see why it's a problem to like a show who describe the harsh reality of a different world than ours.

Metatempo

No tie here. Mashle will win not because its the better show but because MT is pretty hated and triggering.

Nethzil

The tie...oh god 😭😭

Mochichi

Its not, grow up

Nethzil

Just say what you want to say, man.

The Great Santini

Dungeon Meshi/Delicious in Dungeon should be in this poll; its so much better than Mushoko Tensei. Also, it has a DND setting like frieren but amazing world-building and great characters!

FudgeNebula

Please react to Dungeon Meshi

FudgeNebula

"mushoku tensei" is a great anime, but I'm sure you two won't be able to watch this show until the end

지원

https://youtu.be/Lc_EJG1OcYo?si=oJB2fG7T_dQq9WL4 definitely need to react Epic the musical then these anime in the vote.

MinstralPain

I agree with everything you said. 100% But i think in Season 2 when he is borderline an "Adult" things not only get better with his personality. But with the way he treats things in regards to being a perv. Still my favorite show of all time.

Sean Lyle

probably from me if im being honest ive probably asked them idk 10 times now to react to it. Yes its weird in the beginning and even i hate it. Still my favorite show and can acknowledge some people dislike it. Regardless PLZ vote for it LMAO

Sean Lyle

bro acting like its the only plot in this show

Jeff

what are you "wah" about it is exactly that

Kai

not jobless pdf files

Kai

In terms of your nazi example, its very different to take something that is not fictional but this example already happens in a fictional setting. Overlord literally does exactly this and its a show with relatively low controversy (atleast regarding this specific point like genocide/country masacre). You haven't really addressed any of my points (ironically you've "deflected" them by just stating deflection without any core foundational rebuttal). It is different to use a real life event vs a fictional situation that runs under the same moral standard of that real life event. That is the distinction. It runs under parasocial logic to say that morally reprehensible irl equates to the same in anime regarding people and things that do not exist. Who is the victim? An imaginary figment? Passed that, I'd imagine the argument is "well what if this was a real person?" "why is it ok here but not elsewhere?" It's because there is no victim aside from a parasocial attempt to rationalize anime through real life connection and live vicariously through it. That is what I mean by normal healthy adults should be able to draw a distinction and connect when appropriate and separate when appropriate. Fiction does not need to run under the premise that if it's not ok in real life, it needs to be shown under the same light in an anime (hence fiction). Yet this logic seems to escape when buildings go boom (usually filled with people), most action anime promote violence to a degree, etc. Specifically people like to pick and choose. Do you know how many anime downplay or even support killing which is arguably the most egregious action possible? Its inconsistent logic out of convenience.

Jay

You aren't, though. The show plays them off like it's not that bad while consistently validating his pedophilia with fanservice involving the children.

Chimpman

"I personally didn't vote for mushoku but I do want to say, the push in some of these comments on the moral indecency of a show, really has no place in an adult conversation." This means nothing. Deciding what's moral and isn't is part of what being an adult is. This is a deflection. It's dodging the extremely valid criticism of the fact that the show consistently downplays pedophilia so the author can live vicariously through Rudeus. "These are both adults and anyone here should also be an adult as this is patreons age of tos on purchasing subscriptions." Okay? Adults can talk about uncomfortable subjects and recognize when something is incorrect. Again, this is a deflection. This doesn't mean anything. "The reason I bring this up is because we are not talking about young impressionable kids who can get the wrong idea if you downplay serious acts of crime in a comedic way. We are talking about grown adults and the idea that you have to portray an identical morality to real life else it cannot be entertaining because that means the audience supports such acts is just a insanely large stretch not based on any type of sound logic. Normal adults are able to separate fiction from reality in a healthy way" No one is talking about this because "Oh no, the kids will be corrupted" lmao. It's because it's an extremely uncomfortable show with pedophile apologia. That's it. If a show was being apologetic to Nazis and acting like their ideas were actually not that bad, I think we'd have an issue with it, too. Making a show about reprehensible things like pedophilia =/= making a show that consistently plays pedophilia off like it's a fun joke and the MC literally doesn't change his inner feelings whatsoever about this aspect of himself, and it's never presented as a bad thing. None of these are justifications for the show, bud. I'm sorry. We can recognize that a series is reprehensible and extremely uncomfortable to watch. The fact that you HAVE to stomach through Rudeus CONSTANTLY being a gross pedophile to young girls to get to the good aspects of a show is objectively an extreme flaw. The cool world and lore doesn't make that other shit anymore enjoyable to watch. Anyone who likes this show nowadays is either a closet pedophile or has chosen to go full cope and just ignore all the consistent shittiness of Rudy and the show's defense of his behavior.

Chimpman

They aren't downplaying it. They're talking about how shitty and uncomfortable the pedophile apologia in the show is. Having a really cool world and lore doesn't mean jack shit if the MC is legitimately awful to watch on a consistent basis. Why does no one seem to get that? None of the other aspects of the show matter lmao. The MC is a pedophile, it's played off as a joke constantly and he gets to use the fact that he's in a child's body to pray on young girls and get away with it. Grow the hell up, bud. It's gross and weird.

Chimpman

The person above this pretty much laid out why that logic is flawed. What you are saying asserts so many assumptions of your own head canon as fact specifically in the assumption that the entertainment a person consumes is reflective of their real life morals. No normal functioning adult should have their real life morality swayed by anime logic. The two things should have zero correlation unless something is already wrong and unhealthy to begin with.

Jay

I don't know if saying pedophilia isn't as bad as murder is the box of worms you should open my guy. I can't explain why it's glorified or downplayed without spoilers, but the predatory pursuit doesnt exactly backfire for the MCs sexual intentions and goals. I dont want to make things toxic so I'm peacing out and putting my faith in the community to avoid this show. Simply wanted to state my opinion that I think the repetetive 'oh you silly MC' *slight tap on the wrist* approach to pedophilia is disgusting. Have a good one 👍

Jack

Mushoku being on a poll is something i never thought i'd see but here we are 😂

Night Sterling

@Matthias Spoiler bro... not cool

Fajar Kurniawan

wah?

Semir Tahir

is there any non anime/ or animated shows you guys will be watching soon ? if so i recommend severance and/or from

leo

Lmao I mean if they're gonna watch MT I'm here for the content.

Angel Zane

Konasuba fan here! i was gonna vote for it but wanted to make sure MT wasn't watched so switched to Mashle <3

Terra

don't watch mushoku tensei. it's disgusting anime its child SA.

Qudrat Ali

No :’( Please MT, please…

Nessa.

I like em both but I'm more hyped since last season of bleach is streaming now

santiago arenas

Bleach after Naruto!

Martina

Still 10 days left. Don't lose hope!!!!

Uuraami Chan

i'm a fan of the anime but the manga is fantastic. i'm excited to see them get to it

nikki

It’s ok man take a breather.

Alkampus

noo moshuko is losing dont do this 😭

Jeff

The amount of portable document format is actually shockingly insane.

Matthias

So basicly you're interested by a 50+ year old grooming and fcking children ?

Matthias

I feel like COTE and Windbreaker are so underrated on this poll

Tigerclaw

I had to read the LNs bc I got impatient waiting for S3 lol

Tigerclaw

Except the show condones it and constantly rewards Rudy for the behavior

greenb3ar

Watched none of this except for mashle. And it’s a show that doesn’t even take itself seriously so I mean what’s not to like 😆😂 with a cast of VAs you’d recognize too!

GummyCalico

Unfortunately yes and was sold on the lie of it being a redemption story as the only way I made it through it

greenb3ar

Same

Nethzil

I would've voted Konosuba if Mashle didnt have for some reason a ridiculous lead. So MT it is.

Nethzil

everyone is entitled to their own opinion, dont tell someone that they have bad taste just because its dissimilar to yours.

C Ng

I was going to vote Konosuba or Mashle because I feel like rewatching a comedy show rn, but after seeing so many comments that downplay mushoku when its literally top 3 material (imo) in the isekai genre make me reconsider this. Is it a show for Carlie and Ange? I'm not sure myself, very heavy watch in some aspects (not just the sexual stuff) even for someone who have seen a ton of animes but rewarding for people who are open minded in the long run. Not my favorite show of all time but definetly worth watching if you are an anime fan (when you have already watch a lot of stuff and want to try something different for exemple) at some point.

Metatempo

Hey Kunosuba fans, it's almost just the tug of war between Mushoku and Mashle now. I think if you guys want more isekai on their channel and don't hate Mushoku, please vote for it.

Khoi Pham

These comments are entertaining 🍿😆

STAR

Personally not a fan of any of these shows (voted Mashle for Creepy Nuts cover), but damn this comment section is fun to read through xD

angelalala

actually read one chapter and saw a horse raping a girl and exited immediately. ik berzerk treats the darkness seriously and doesn't have weird perverted comedy so it is critically acclaimed. just not for me personally

gee

they would love ouran omg one day i beg

gee

then none of you are functioning member of society if you can sit down and look at each other and say let's go watch the pedo anime where he rapes children

granite 2004

Ok I’ll vote but PLEASE CONSIDER DELICIOUS IN DUNGEON NEXT WHEN YOU HAVE FREE SLOTS I NEED U GUYS TO REACT TO IT 😭😭😭😭😭😭

Joan

Good for you, I wont watch a lot of shows too but Its not important enough to reply to every other person about it lol. I agree with you about one punch man though but its already been watched so it doesnt impact my choice, I would just prefer mashle over whats listed as options

PeachBrune

i really wanted classroom of the elite to win but sadly it doesnt get enough attention but mushoku tensei would be a hilarious reaction so im fine with that.

Deakon

Second that !

Hani

@Hani Yeah. It's like he/she thinks what he/she likes is the only right answer 😂

FGK

For me the easiest way to do that would be to watch them along with the last episode of each season, so no spoil, and adds just 3mn to the video. Moreover they miss some ops/eds changes like in MHA, minor but beautiful to witness when you love the series. Well up to them, I love their content anyway

Hani

Yes, I did. I liked the world-building, the animation, the lore, and how he gets reincarnated and uses it as its advantage to be op and all. But I just couldn't stand the MC, I tried to see the “redemption” side of it and all, but, at least for me, they didn't do it well, it seemed more like making fun of it and serving it as fan service for other sick people out there.

Arthus Vinícius

I never watch Mushoku Tensei because isekai is not really my genre. but after reading most of the spicy comments about Mushoku, I think I am intrigued to see it 😅

Fajar Kurniawan

I know a female reactor drop her Death Note reaction, because it affects her mental health.

Fajar Kurniawan

Second that ! Wholesome as hell

Hani

@Hani They could take a break. They said it themselves when they made the op announcement, they would take a break from it if they have less time for other stuff/shows. Sadly I don't see that happening anytime soon 😞

FGK

@granite : I enjoy AOT, does that mean that I enjoy genocide and kids being used for war purposes? I enjoy Naruto, does that mean I enjoy mass manipulation and control as well as killing an entire clan, including family members ? I enjoy Death Note, does that mean I enjoy someone killing criminals and thinking they are a god ? I enjoy Hunter x Hunter, does that mean I enjoy a character that gets a schwing when he fights powerful people, including kids ? I enjoy MHA, does that mean I enjoy fan service including teenage girls being half naked and in tight clothes as well as a teenage character being controlled by his hormones all the time ? I enjoy Seven Deadly Sins (only S1 and S2), do I enjoy watching a female character being stripped and groped every episode ? Now, I enjoy MT, does that mean that I enjoy everything about the MC and his poor and dangerous decisions ?

Nessa.

Me too haha! Gintama is hilarious, even though I wonder if they will like the fast pacing.

Hani

I was going to say if u guys would consider react to bleach but I realize that seeing more than 1 anime with 100+ eps would be a little too much, or at least this happens to me. Hope MT wins putting aside all the critics and stuff related to the author etc... I consider it is a good anime with a good story telling worth watching.

santiago arenas

I second that! I don't know for q&a but I've always wondered why they don't watch ops & eds after finishing a show/season, but I guess it's a time issue over all maybe...

Hani

Fr. Then he/she asks people why they doing the same to MT even though he/she admits there's controversy.

Hani

Can't believe how popular mashle is, I kept thinking it would get good but it never did

Haz

@The Great Santini A school series that breaks the genre's mold, in which it simulates society in terms of social skills, intelligence, and physics, is generic? Saying that Cote is generic speaks volumes about those who don't understand the series.

Eduardo

is the first one an UNEXPLOYMENT anime? makes sense why i haven't seen it before

astherphoenixxx96

The common point between these shows is them being disturbing, I didn't say it's of the same nature. The point is for C&A to know what to expect, then they can watch IF they can handle it, so, no it doesn't bother me. Btw that's rich coming from you who's been spamming in the coms your dislikes about the other shows thinking we have to agree with you. I watched both MT seasons but I understand people's complaints. Understanding a show doesn't mean we have to like it. So why would people explaining their disgust for MT, and highlighting the other shows bother YOU? There are obviously fans that want them to experience these animes.

Hani

It’s not about ignoring it, it’s about choosing to enjoy the parts of the show that are good. If you can’t do that, then that’s your decision. Just don’t tell people they shouldn’t watch it, as it is a well done show despite the behavior of the MC. You have every right to not enjoy it yourself, and you don’t have to watch it. Nothing will convince you it’s a good show if you’ve already made up your mind that it isn’t. And that’s ok.

Gabriel Barott

🤣🤣🤣

Seffory

They should be warned about pedophilic content.

2rs2cs2ds

I'm confused, you think all isekai are pedophilic because the characters retain their memories in their reincarnated bodied? I think if they Left out his back story it would stop people like you from hating the show blindly but also take alot of depth away from some of his character choices and development later on. And I don't think i makes sense to say that he was a pedo to begin with. He was a shut in with no actual connections to anyone outside his home due to a traumatic experience. He never was a pedo in his first life and after being reborn he strives to be a better person than he was before including with how he tries to connect with the people around him. If you didn't get that far in to know that you probably didn't watch more than 1 episode. I think the first like 5 episodes are heavily saturated with memories of his past life so you're drawing too much connection to the world that he literally died in and not acknowledging that he was reborn.

joshua couvertier

LETS GO MASHLE POWER OF MUSCLES

Saksit Jangprai

Brother, you, I and everyone in this poll will live regardless what anyone comments and what c&a does. I put my opinion out there, asked them to consider it, and that's about it. Now I am going to mute my notifs and carry on with my night, and hopefully you will too.

tpfw01

having an opinion is one thing and a person's opinion is always going to be valid, but as you've said "this is a patreon poll" realistically we both know your comment doesn't do anything productive. Having an opinion doesnt always make it not in bad taste to share it at every moment. Like what is the point of knocking every show on the list if something is going to be chosen from the list at the end of the day as opposed to sharing opinions about what to choose from the list.

Jay

just adding that I'm a Mushoku Tensei OG coz I've been reading the LN before isekai anime became mainstream. I've watched all the anime listed and read their manga/ln. It's just my opinion that none of the listed are *that* good for a reaction nor would they be *that* enjoyable for carlie and ange to watch. Which i think is a valid opinion to share coz this is a patreon poll

tpfw01

this is their list of shows they have looked into and are excited about. You cannot be this dense to think "all these aren't that good" is not a buzzkill for zero productive reason. Or did you actually think they'd drop the entire list they researched and just take the one guy link click recommendation? I don't think saying this is just in bad taste is an overreaction, its simply just bad taste is it not?

Jay

you're all overreacting.

tpfw01

i didn't say they're bad but they're definitely not absolute top tier cmon.

tpfw01

i mean bad taste to me would seem to be if someone had a list of shows they're excited about and someone randomly comes in and says "none of them pick me pick me." Bit selfish to think your subjective taste is superior to anyone else's and should take priority.

Jay

lmao I sincerely hope you're joking, some of these are absolute top tier and it's just sad you don't get them :(

Ananth Varma

Get better taste, thanks

tpfw01

Right? He/she keeps commenting sht about a show someone said they like but he/she doesnt. I mean, leave them alone man.

FGK

bro said none of them are good and proceeded to recommend link click im dead

Brandon Gomez

All these aren't that good imo. Please consider Link Click instead

tpfw01

Got it. Thanks 😁

FGK

I don't want to assume what their personal beliefs are but they already watched many shows from different genres so i think you just suggest those to them and let them be the judge.

John Mark

On your point about literature, you are confusing how fiction can be utilized with what it needs to be. Fiction is just something that isn't real. How a person processes that is up to them. Your major doesn't really dictate how people choose to process the literature they consume. That aside, your point about "balancing" is extremely odd. If you are treating fictional morality as needing to be morally applicable in real life like in the "the show never implies that he's horrible", then no amount of how good or entertaining it is should weigh on that aspect as that would be like saying, its ok to be a pedo if you are entertaining, which is clearly absurd. On the topic of absurdity, many of your comments seem to dismiss the concept of absurdity being a reasonable form of entertainment for people as its not to your personally taste. While it isn't really in my personally taste either as I find it quite three stoogey and a bit plain, it would be dumb of me to say that that is an objective issue as opposed to my subjective preference as there are clearly many people that do enjoy that. If you think the absurdity of how much they push the main character's sex drive as a running gag is not in your taste, thats one thing but to say that it makes the audience pedos or says anything other than they enjoy a bit of odd slap stick humor (nothing wrong with this btw) would be stretching logic with no basis.

Jay

I wonder what you would think of berserk 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Xan

Have you seen MT?

Xan

C&A please do a Q&A again and anime OP reaction 😣

FGK

@John Mark I heard it’s because of their beliefs or something 🤔 If that’s true then is it a bad idea to suggest Saga of Tanya the Evil to them? Overlord?

FGK

@Xan 🤣

FGK

lol people can like what they like and dislike what they dislike. your incessant need to defend a show which you have no stake in is weird.

Willhoe

How? Did they find a deathnote IRL or something?

Xan

Konosuba has lots of ecchi stuff too but the show exaggerates it, making a comedic plot out of it and leaves bad consequences to the MC. Mushoku is different because the show let pdf files scenes to be okay and it's completely annoying with no contribution to the plots. S1 is fine but S2 is horrible. Too many BS have been dragged out long.

John Mark

They only said that after watching episode 1, it hits too close to home and cannot enjoy it due to that.

John Mark

haven't watched overlord because of the fanservice, dropped CSM because denji is degenerate who gets SA every few chapters, and sukuna is not the main character that you're supposed to like. my main issue and i think a lot of people's a well, is that rudeus is the main character that you're supposed to feel bad for and to empathize with. imo p3do's deserve nothing but the d3ath penalty there's no redeeming someone who CHOOSES to pry on children. so no im not gonna sit and wait for him to get his redemption arc (and he never does so all that degenerate shit was for what? shock value? wow peak writing /s) also i've seen a lot of you trying to make this into a "if you're an adult you can draw distinction between fiction and reality" im literally a literature major and fiction is supposed to serve two things: 1. it's a mirror to reality. supposed to show the world without the rose tinted glass, portraying social issues in an extreme way to drive a point. 2. entertainment. fiction is supposed to be entertaining in some way. MT is neither. it's not entertaining and is not pushing any social issue. rudeus is still a piece of shit, he gets rewarded and the show never implies that he's horrible (im not talking about the beginning even after he get's reincarnated the show goes on "he trying his bestest :(" while he's in the background fondling a child) it's not that we choose where to draw the line, it's the fact some shows now how to balance the fucked up shit with good aspects where it makes it easier for us as viewers to look past it "at least yuji is not like that, at least luffy is not like that, at least midoriya is not like that" how are you supposed to do that with MT?

greyxwaren

you're jumping hoops trying to make this morally ok, his PHYSICAL body is 14 yo his actual age is 40. he's a pedo. and it being a reoccurring theme in isekais is why i hate isekais. just a projection of the author's weird desires

greyxwaren

We're weird for not liking a pedophile? A pedophile whose actions and thoughts are barely treated as bad, much less egregious. Even worse, they're treated as a gag most of the time. Bud, you're the weird one. Just because the world is cool, doesn't mean you have to stomach a shitty MC the whole time lmao. It's okay to have principals and drop a show for something that is objectively reprehensible. It's obvious the author is living vicariously through Rudeus.

Chimpman

You might not have seen it yet, but that’s fine. Naruto is part of the Big 3 for a reason, just like One Piece—both are absolute classics. If they love One Piece, they’re definitely going to love Naruto too. And nah, Naruto isn’t old-school—it came out in the 2000s, not the ’80s or early ’90s. It’s a classic from the Big 3 era, not the old-school days of Dragon Ball or Yu Yu Hakusho. Nothing personal Dragon Ball fan🫶🏻

MA

that's the thing though, it involves the mc, the show is about mc's live and his "redemption" which he doesn't achieve. how can you overlook all of that unless you're asking us to watch the show with our eyes closed. there are things that irredeemable, and having the author decide to take that route with his mc was definitely a weird choice. if this trait was written for a side character we can just ignore whatever but that's not the case

greyxwaren

To the C&A members that have been with them since the beginning...why did they drop Death Note? 🤔

FGK

I’m also excited for Bling Bang Bang Born 😁

FGK

Oh Dororo. I miss that show.

FGK

Oh yeah! Please win Mashle!

FGK

Ikr? It's so underrated

FGK

I'm still waiting for Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki-kun and Ouran to show up 😓

FGK

I actually love all that 😁 Have you watched Cautious Hero?

FGK

all good shows, and all different in their own way. Some others are; Arifureta: From Commonplace to World's Strongest, Farming Life in Another World, How Not to Summon a Demon Lord, No Longer Allowed in Another World, The Eminence in Shadow.... Tsukimichi -Moonlit Fantasy. Isekai is like an endless pit, there is and will always be so many xD

J

Lol let me guess it's Mashle? 😂 Well if you want a show like Harry Potter, One Punch Man and Black Clover combined then go for Mashle. Konosuba - isekai pure comedy Classroom of the Elite - psychological thriller, all about manipulation and competition among the students. Windbreaker - more on school fights. If you watched Tokyo Revengers then it's similar but I like the animation of Windbreaker more. Mushoku - well...it's an isekai...and CLEARLY the people have some...opinions about it 😅 Just read the comments to know more.

FGK

Clearly nope haha. I think people should just vote and shut the fvck up and move on when it comes to polls with controversial shows like this one.

FGK

it's peak as a whole, not so much a single season

J

@The Great Santini you just like to say sht about what other people like that's not the same as yours huh?

FGK

nothing is too old school

J

well said

J

I heard about the new avatar. That's real? 😃

FGK

I hope mushoko tensei wins just to see all of you mald your heads off. Y’all weird

LordPain

I can actually already imagine them laughing so hard 😂

FGK

god damn i have no idea any of those :0 wheres the good anime at ?

Thinkace

Mash is 100% lose any other show on the list is better (in my opinion).

Nethzil

One Piece as well but they are enjoying it so I think they will enjoy Naruto.

John Mark

The main character of Muhsoku Tensei is basically Mineta, except creepy and less comedic

makimama

I voted for Mashle because I do love me some Harry Spotter. BUT anyone here who has been complaining about Jobless is too social media pilled to understand that people can have nuanced conversations about serious topics without hopping to one extreme immediately. The world is NOT black and white, there are many shades of gray. Just because a person starts at the end of one spectrum, does not mean they are meant to stay there. And redemption does not happen overnight. It takes work, you stumble a lot and fall back. Yet you keep going hoping to become better.

Joe B

Ur talking about mushoku right? not mashle

AngelFr0m Sky

It's simple. We just have different tastes that's all. It's like some prefer tea more than coffee, some like burgers more than sandwich, some are cat lovers while some are dog lovers, some like the color pink for others it's blue or green or yellow...and so on. If you like MT then okay. You like MT idc. For me, I like Mashle, Windbreaker, Classroom of the Elite and Konosuba. It's actually weird that people even wonder why other people like different things than they do.

FGK

mash or rudy. cant lose with those options lol

Stefan

Code Geass is a good anime but do you reckon it’s I’m fr a good C&A anime? Not sure.

The Great Santini

Thanks for the recommendations but the only one I found remotely interesting was Slime.

The Great Santini

They don’t have the capacity to look deeper than the surface. Maybe most of them are kids after all?

The Great Santini

If MASHLE takes it that’s just another show I won’t watch the reactions to. Too generic and not drawn well. The premise is even lame. One Pinch Man did it WAY better.

The Great Santini

It depends on whether you think people politely disagreeing is considered friendly or not.

The Great Santini

You’re wrong about your 70/30 split there. The entirety of S1 is peak anime and the second half of S2 is also (as well as some of the first half). So I’d say the split is more 85/15.

The Great Santini

At least Tensei has heart and emotion. MASHLE is such a low effort, poorly animated anime.

The Great Santini

How? It’s incredibly generic. Angel Beats would be a better choice.

The Great Santini

I understand that the first half of S2 was slow but my god… the 2nd half had GOOD shit in it and literally had me in tears.

The Great Santini

Truly facts.

The Great Santini

I support them watching both MT AND MiA but drawing some kind of equivalency between the two shows is totally insane to me. MiA (at least the first season and movies leading up to the second season and the first 5 episodes of the second season because that’s all I watched) has disturbing scenes for sure but they’re of a different nature than the ones in MT. So you’re either being disingenuous or you don’t understand either show, respectfully. Regardless, why would C&A reacting to either of the mentioned shows bother YOU? There are obviously fans that want them to experience these anime.

The Great Santini

Isn’t it too old school?

The Great Santini

Your trick doesn’t work on anyone who isn’t a child. Enjoyment of the show != enjoyment of the main character’s bad choices.

The Great Santini

I could not disagree more and honestly? What you just wrote sounds incredibly childish. I mean that literally. I watched it with a group of completely normal, functioning members of society (including my wife) and we had very engaging and deep conversations about the controversial things that were occurring.

The Great Santini

Too safe and by the numbers for me.

The Great Santini

I respect your opinion but I’m not sure how someone likes two somewhat mid shows (MASHLE was just okay… like your typical forgettable 6/7 out of 10 that will not go down in the history books of anime) while disliking MT which is guaranteed to be remembered and talked about for years to come.

The Great Santini

Ah yes, the controversial anime Mushoku Tensei, in terms of storytelling its actually one of the good one out there, but somehow people focusing on the premise of MC being a "horrible human being". I'll leave it up to you guys to judge on that.

Gooner Wolf

EXACTLY. Mushoku Tensei literally includes those “acts” to challenge the viewer AND the characters and ask you: “how do you feel about this? What is your opinion?” You can enjoy MT without condoning ANYTHING that happens in it and I’d argue that’s kinda the point.

The Great Santini

Respectfully, I think Mushoku Tensei is one of the best shows to come out in the last 5 years or so. The character work and animation (especially in season 1) are superb. That said, without spoiling, there ARE GOING TO BE MOMENTS WHERE YOU FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE WATCHING WHAT IS HAPPENING ON SCREEN. The thing is, you’re SUPPOSED to. I think you guys are mature enough to understand the show and condemn the actions that a certain character is doing without immediately writing the show off. At the end of the day, I think it’s important to remember the context the show/manga was created in and who it’s about. It is HEAVILY influenced by JAPANESE culture and world-views so it touches on things that you would NEVER see a western show attempt to tackle. Sorry for my rant, but, Mushoku Tensei is 100% worth watching… especially just to experience the first season. It’s a masterpiece. You’ll note that HIGHLY respected anime reactors have reacted to it and have had very nuanced conversations about the characters and their decisions. Rant over.

The Great Santini

I personally didn't vote for mushoku but I do want to say, the push in some of these comments on the moral indecency of a show, really has no place in an adult conversation. These are both adults and anyone here should also be an adult as this is patreons age of tos on purchasing subscriptions. The reason I bring this up is because we are not talking about young impressionable kids who can get the wrong idea if you downplay serious acts of crime in a comedic way. We are talking about grown adults and the idea that you have to portray an identical morality to real life else it cannot be entertaining because that means the audience supports such acts is just a insanely large stretch not based on any type of sound logic. Normal adults are able to separate fiction from reality in a healthy way

Jay

Totally understandable. But Mashle sucks ass too. I watched 2 episodes of this trash anime. I guess its a different in taste ? Konosuba is at least funny.

Nethzil

Why is it specifically here where people make a distinction though. Ainz (literal genocide), denji (degen in every way possible), jinx (crazed murderer made to be charismatic), sukuna (again murderer portrayed as charismatic and likeable). These are just a few examples but its literally most anime unless you're watching slice of life where there is meant to be a sort of family element to it where you are meant to be able to watch it with the whole family and the kids are able to take away some aspects of morality from it. In most cases though, there are so many aspects of things that are not morally acceptable and yet they aren't deemed problematic, and for good reason. It's because as adults, we should be able to separate fiction from reality and understand that we should never be using a show as a reference for our moral standards. That being said, I can understand if the main character in MT is unlikeable to you, I think that take is perfectly fine, however I don't think the issue is specifically a pd issue like you're saying as this logic is not consistent with the above. I think it just plays a part into the unlikeability for your specific preferences. It's a bit of a stretch to try to make any sort of moral implication on the audience of the show past that imo.

Jay

Friendly fire!

John Mark

True enlightenment is reached by looking within one’s self

FTN Chicken

Now this is a good poll. I'm torn between Mashle and Windbreaker ugh!!! 😣 I actually like all of these (except mushoku).

FGK

I dont really understand your take on "glorifying." It really only matters in terms of monitoring the viewing of an impressionable young minor audience, but we are talking about grown adults. The difference is that when you are able to separate fiction from reality, you can take the absurdity for what it is, and view it as just that, absurdity in fictional entertainment. In no way should there be the expectation of moral imprinting from a fictional non-educational show. Also, on the topic of glorifying, it is common for anime to glorify things like violence, fighting, and killing. The reason this is generally not talked about is because again, it is understood that it's fictional, but for some reason specifically your issue is where the line is even though these things are arguably worse

Jay

Classroom of The Elite 🥶🥶🥶

cardigunov

Mashle seems like something you both would enjoy so i'am picking that option.

Aser Studios

My fault

granite 2004

I WAS REPLYING TO THE PERSON WHO REPLIED TO YOU PLEASEEE IM ON UR SIDE 😭🙏

Abby Austin

Come back to me when you know what that even means because clearly you don't

granite 2004

ok edgelord 💀

Abby Austin

First of all I'm 100% older than you. And second it's not called being fragile it's called the main character is a pedophile and if you enjoy that then it says a LOT about you doesn't it

granite 2004

Can't imagine being this fragile. Relax kid, it's fiction.

Hollow

Please don't watch mushoku tensei it is a very degenerate show with incredibly bad taste and ideology

granite 2004

@Waver As much as I hate Mushoku, you're operating in incorrect assumptions. The ANIME released in 2022. The light novel it's based on was made WAY before this and essentially kickstarted the isekai fad that's still in effect today. It was made before SAO and Re:Zero.

Chimpman

@Alex McCalmont You're just lying. I've watched both seasons. His pedophilia is played off as a gag fucking constantly. I get that the world is cool as shit and that probably makes it hard for you to think objectively but every time Rudy does awful shit and you cringe, you know it's shitty. He ruins the series. He is almost never fun to watch.

Chimpman

One day a reaction channel I like will have a poll for Gintama and one day it will win. I will wait for that day.

HerpDerp

@FTN Chicken How are these out of context? What "context" would make the scenes of Rudeus attempting sexual harassment of children or perving on children okay? Please, enlighten me.

Chimpman

@Alkampus Yeah? Elaborate, bud. Back up your stupid fucking comment lmao.

Chimpman

@Ryuuji Gremory I watched 2 seasons because so many people kept saying "He becomes a better person!" No, he doesn't. He just hides his shitty thoughts and actions better. He is still attracted to kids and the show still makes it seem like an epic joke. Stop defending pedophilia, bro. It's a relic of Japanese culture that is thankfully slowly going away.

Chimpman

@Ryuuji Gremory Point me to a single time in game of thrones that is remotely similar to Mushoku Tensei and how it pretends that Rudeus being a pedophile is a "le epic joke"

Chimpman

I didn’t say only the first episodes, and I understand why so many people doesn’t like it, as I say the people only see the a pervert mc and ignore all the other good things that mushoku have. As I said only hating and judging the people who likes it, go to therapy or pedophiles it’s so simple minded.

AngelFr0m Sky

Thank you for letting me know! I’m both happy and sad because I love both MHA and Naruto. 🥹♥️

MA

@ImZeaT If Dragon Ball was bad, it would be okay to say this lmao. Being first doesn't make you good, it just makes you first.

Chimpman

Bud. He's been "questionable" the entire story, not just the first episodes (questionable should actually be reprehensible). If you think he's okay past that, you need to be looked into.

Chimpman

Maybe I should try again mashle, but for me was like black clover but worst in every aspect and with no sense of humor at all.

AngelFr0m Sky

Really? For me was even better than the first season

AngelFr0m Sky

They said they'll get to it after MHA

Hani

new avatar series!

Vania

I'm really sad that Naruto isn't included in the poll. 😭💔

MA

Oh if this happened before and they know about the controversy, then it's okay, it will be their choice in the end. I'd still watch it with them if they get to it, but I understand the disgust people feel

Hani

S2 has its flaws but it has major events in it that are very important to understand, especially regarding the plot. Won’t say anything more.

Nessa.

They put Mushoku Tensei on polls multiple times (I think this is at least the second time since I’m here) so trust me, they know what they are doing and know all about the controversy regarding MT, but they are still interested despite all of it and want to watch it, hence the poll. I know that this is hard to fathom for some people that C&A would be interested in this show while knowing that this is a controversal show, but the truth is, they are 🤷🏻‍♀️ (they can always change their minds though) I’ve also seen Made in Abyss in a poll before, I wouldn’t be surprised if they would put it again someday, to be honest.

Nessa.

The coms convinced me to try again konosuba lol

Hani

I've watched mushoku and agree I'd be surprised if you liked it. IF C&A are reading this and decide not to get into this (whether it wins or not) for the very clear reasons listed in the comments, you should avoid even putting made in abyss in a poll again, for almost the same (or worse ?) reasons

Hani

Saying "there is a lot of good isekai stories out there and MT is not one of them" is literally like saying "there is a lot of good shonen stories out there and Dragon Ball is not one of them" lmao

ImZeaT

Code Geass is on their list they say but i guess not enough to reach the top 5.

John Mark

Mushoku is GOD TIER ngl, everything else is something that you could watch in 1 day and forget about it the next day

Yam

Found the projector

Alkampus

Any reactors that have put polls with it in the past get the same reaction from comments. Like if you don’t like the show just vote for the one you want and move on. No need to bash another show and plead reactors to not watch.

Alkampus

Mushoku s2 made me dropped it. Too slow coz of some bs that dragged too much

John Mark

Hard disagree. The world building and characters in the story and fascinating and on top of the that the studio puts great work into the animation. It’s extremely immersive and most people agree.

Alkampus

Pls react to Mushoku it’s very hated for the community for his questionable mc and his first episodes, but when u see in depth you see the anime it’s so much than that a beautiful animation, soundtrack, storytelling and nice characters you understand so much of the feelings and thoughts, u see with time and so well written the growth of the mc and healing in his traumas. I think so many people stay with the superficial and apparent aspects of the history. And for me it’s one of my favorites anime alongside re zero and one of the best isekai. Btw: just for my personal opinion, I don’t really like mashle, it’s very hard for me get bored for an anime but I found mashle very boring and unoriginal in many of his characters and history, and make me drop the show in the 2nd season. I really think the best 2 options are mushoku and konosuba, remarkable and very good anime’s. It’s sad that so many people are voting for mashle just to don’t let win mushoku.

AngelFr0m Sky

S1 is good but S2 is really bad imo. Too slow because some bs that are dragged too much. Can't really take MC's behavior on many parts of it.

John Mark

is it just me or classroom of the elite is mid compare to mt

Jeff

This is probably the best overall take for Mushoku. Does it have great storytelling, art, and direction? Some of the best. Is the MC off-putting and irredeemable to many? Yes. For both these reasons, it's hard to recommend to anyone because you just don't know what people will bounce off of. If you can roll your eyes at the MC and watch the show, it's rewarding and there's character growth (not enough in my opinion, but that's just my opinion). If you can't make it even a couple episodes in, perfectly understandable.

Joshua Lopez

No poll with Mushoku Tensei will ever stay civil xd

FTN Chicken

I just hope Carlie & Ange will reply to 1 of these Code Geass comments that "they definitely have it under radar", I will wait until the day a Poll do justice to it.

Khoi Pham

Classroom of the elite is peak

Skijay843

God Tensei sucks lol, is what it is though, I'm probably in the minority

zzip711

Just an opinion and wanna share my thoughts on MT. No hate on Mushoku Tensei since I was one of the people who read and watched it, but, there is a lot of good isekai stories out there and MT is not one of them. Ill admit that the first half of the story is good, and a lot of people can forgive that the MC is a bit of a creep since they manage to set the premise and objective of the story from the start, and MC is determined on finishing this goal. The rest of the show just fell apart with 30% being the story and 70% showing MC with his uncouth behavior. Still its a good watch to pass some time, besides there are also a lot of memorable moments and good characters on this show, you just need to keep an open mind about it. I wish Classroom of the Elite win, but based on the poll it seems impossible, but I can accept everything on the list winning.

Areza

Shogun is such a big-brain recommendation

Leah

I’m just here because I want to see if things stayed friendly this time haha

Leah

idk what any of this is but ima pick the one that sounds funniest

Martin Beckerle

I know right? Lmao

Silver

That’s why I brought it up as a Patreon exclusive, not something to bring to the main channel. And it will stay niche if no one talks about or recommends it.

ViperBreeze

Honestly not a huge fan of these but if anything hopefully mashle takes the top

PeachBrune

Nothing but childish responses in this comment section smh. Sad thing is most of you are grown adults😢😢😢😢

Uuraami Chan

Pushing positivity and attention in another direction if Carlie and Ange are interested in other reincarnation isekai. Hopefully others will speak up for ones they like too and get them on polls in the future. - Reincarnated as a slime (probably my favorite, Im a big fan of both the manga and LN too. Ive rewatched and reread this a handful of times.) - Campfire cooking in another world (another that I love a lot. I've seen multiple times as well as reread the manga) - Overlord (if you want to side with and cheer on evil characters, this is the one to do it with) - Ive been killing slimes for 300 years. (Short. A cute and charming one, low stakes) - Kuma Kuma Kuma Bear (Same as above) - So I'm a spider, so what? (Overall I liked it a lot, and ive read the LN. Semi-spoilers: The human portions are pretty boring and subpar, but everything else is great and really cool) - I'm In love with the villainess (reading the manga and soon the LN. I enjoy the story a lot. The anime suffers a bit some episodes from bare-minimum animation syndrome though sadly)

Fumi フミ

Run with the wind !!! I haven't given up on it.

Nessa.

Too niche unfortunately, it won't win any poll unless it's against other niche anime, but again, won't win polls against other niche animés. It's the kind of shows that get reacted to either because the reactor decides to do so or because they've already watched a bunch of stuff (mainstream stuff and so on).

Nessa.

Code Geass lovers, it's time to be sad!

Cole Knight

Changing my vote to Mashle just out of sheer hope it keeps MT away. Easily one of the worst protags in fiction and don't buy any of the nonsense about it being a "redemption story."

greenb3ar

They are bringing up Oshi no Ko specifically because Carlie and Ange already watched it and because no one really complained in the comments under these reactions.

Nessa.

Let's go, Mushoku Tensei !!! :D

Nessa.

It doesn't depict actually pedophilia, the dude was reborn in another world and he grew from birth in that new body. He's the same age in that world as the other characters involved. He still has his memories from the old world which is a reoccurring thing in all isekai and the reason he still views his internal self depiction as an fat slob of a man is because of the god who brought him into the world using that as a way to torment him upon their meetings. Later on he completely leaves behind his old life and you only see that depiction of him in front of that god.

joshua couvertier

sigh i was hoping i would know at least one show on this list. hope yall include fruits basket one day or make a shoujo list lol. but i have seen some of mushoku tensei and will do my part in making you guys not watch that shit lol

gee

Yo I don't usually reply to "special" people, but you need to chill out, you understood nothing about what Melody said, hope there's mods that deal with people like you, peace ✌🏻

Tibbers

Classroom of the elite is great and really smart. Surprised at how little love it's getting at the pole

Stefan

Omg mashle!! It’s a feel good show ^^ I’ve just been rewatching it again lately so if you guys do start on it, it’ll be so cool

Risa

I'm saying Oshi no Ko is an example of downplaying pedo stuff, Mushoku does no such thing. I genuinely want to understand what part of Mushoku you think was downplaying and glorifying pedophilia because I only ever saw it portrayed in a bad light in the show.

o7

As someone who's seen about 17 episodes of Mushoku Tensei, I think there's some misinformation surrounding the MC. Without getting into heavy spoilers, he's a lustful guy that essentially gets a restart on life. There are many good moments, but there are many scenes that are quite uncomfortable or jarring to the average viewer. Some pretty heavy degenerate shit, stuff that I'm a little confused as to why it took the route that it did. It is a bit weird and I ultimately dropped the show because of it (going to likely pick it back up), and not because the anime is bad, but because I just don't think it's for everyone. If you firmly believe that the MC is off putting and a creep, then nothing will change your mind about him if you watch it in it's entirety. I think generally people need to take a step back and realize that you can dislike things about a character and still care about watching the characters and the rest of the show grow.

Gabriel Barott

No idea why you're bringing up Oshi, I dont think oshi should ever be on the list either, both glorify/forgive/downplay pedo behaviour

Jack

I genuinely don't understand how people can glaze Oshi no Ko and other similar shows so much and then turn around and hate on Mushoku Tensei. Imo the reason people have such a strong reaction to Mushoku is because it DOESN'T downplay the pedo stuff. It portrays it exactly like it is: creepy and weird. Oshi no Ko does a lot to downplay the weird parts of the reincarnation like the voice actor switching to different one post reincarnation and skipping straight to age 16 instead of lingering in the even more suspect years while Mushoku keeps the internal dialog in the older VA and accentuates how weird it is by focusing on the age where it is especially obvious how creepy it is. Mushoku does everything short of directly stating that it condemns the actions of the MC, especially in the first few episodes.

o7

I recently watched a live action show on Netflix called Alice in borderland There a some similarities to squid game but personally I thought it was more interesting. Hopefully we can add this to a poll!

Alexander Lee

I hope in the future you guys can do To Your Eternity.

Dee

Mushoku plays down pedophilia massively, and it's reoccurring, shouldn't be on any poll. People excuse it because the old man in the kids body looks young. No excuse to overlook that element of the show. I swapped to Mashle just to avoid Mushoku

Jack

They would LOOOOVE Yona of the Dawn and Fruits Basket I know it ! They're suckers for good romance !

Sarcaamstic

Damn . I'm sorry but I don't think there's a show that you two will like among the votes here.

지원

Agreed

Riley Fortune

nothing but mushoku haters in the comments damn

Degenerick

Seems Windbreaker isn't getting too much love though admittedly there aren't too many eps out yet so I understand, but for everyone that hasn't seen it and loves good fighting definitely give it a chance!

TrueHeater3

Go to therapy

Thilde

I'm voting just so they don't have to suffer through Mushoku Tensei

Thilde

Such a friendly reply. If you have to put it that way, I would say I can imagine a person with flaws and got reincarnated would and you can disagree with me on that but there’s no need to be so mean. And you know that humans can imagine what someone is going through but they don’t necessarily have to make the same life choices / they can still disagree with what someone does right? Also there are other aspects in the show that are worth mentioning and make the show good. Wonder if there were this many dramas when Aqua in Oshi no Ko was falling for teenage girls

Melody

As much as I would love to see Mushoku tensei don’t think it’s for y’all. So mashle!!

Francisco Cintron

I wouldn’t recommend Mushoku at all. If Hisokas actions & behaviour in hxh got yall freaked out, then seeing what the main character does in this show will give you a heart attack 😂

Gagan

So you're absicly saying that if you were the fkcing 50 yo MT MC you would also try to have sex with teenagers and that would be normal ????? Seek help please.

Matthias

i voted for windbreaker but after seeing the results, switched to mashle just to help mushoku not win :/ im not even a fan of mashle either but any of these are a better option

Fumi フミ

Literal self report, get help.

Matthias

more than 150 languages on earth and this person choose to speak FACTS

Matthias

Man 29% behind mushoku tensei, that's fucked up, this is not 4chan or reddit guys I think you got lost.

Matthias

well there aren't really undertated to any fan of romance anime all of those are bangers

Matthias

The lengths people go to defend pedophilia amazes me 😭

Gagan

Thanks for that

Vongola XIII

mashle for the WIN because ange's cover of knock out would be absolutely legendary

nikki

Under llama’s comment here : ‘Dororo hasnt ever featured on a poll here and Ranking of Kings got obliterated in our last poll. Ranking of Kings is something we’re interested in watching but as a Patreon exclusive, this is a poll for series that are a bit more Youtube relevant’ :)

Nessa.

I can't find the comment, what did they say?

Martina

Have you seen it?

Xan

Ohh? Where?

Xan

How about a a poll with underrated romance animes? Like yona of dawn, my little monster, fruit basket and kaicho wa maid Sama...

Killuazoldyck

Read the comments, Carlie and Ange have posted a comment about Ranking of Kings

Nessa.

Have you seen Made in Abyss SeiferJaeger?

Xan

OHHHHH come on Muscles and Magic!!!!

DandyZombie

Classroom of the elite please!! Windbreaker is way too short, mushoku is... disturbing, plot is good, characters are disgusting lol.

Killuazoldyck

Mushoku Tensei is disgusting and main character is a pedo imo.

Arthus Vinícius

my point is no matter how much world building it has no matter how many flashbacks they give that piece of crap no matter how amazing the animation is, it all does not matter when the author chooses to make his mc that way. wish you guys are at least honest about what you're recommending

greyxwaren

Peak anime but we want to keep the normies away from it. They are not worthy

Xan

explain to me how wrong i am: MC is literally Jeffery Epstein but he feels bad about it, gets reincarnated and wants to redeem himself (yet he still pries on children). tell me how does that stop MC from being human garbage? and if the show is centered around human garbage how is anyone supposed to enjoy it? also i did watch a few episodes but dropped it bcs of how uncomfortable it made me feel, but i read spoilers of the NL and it's the worst thing i ever laid my eyes on. weirdos might call it "loli" hentai but you can't mask what that shit actually is and if you do you're hella weird my guy

greyxwaren

Watch Windbreaker. Massively underrated.

Gabriel Barott

Ranking of Kings should've been on the poll. Such an underrated anime that not enough people have watched. Everyone who has watched it though have nothing but praise for it. I would die for my little king Bojji!

Vongola XIII

they're so loud and so wrong and for what. ive never seen someone defend a pedo this hard to the point of trying to omit actual facts

greyxwaren

They're already watching it

Vongola XIII

KONOSUBA is literally comedy/parody, I'd suggest it if u want smth chill. MUSHOKU TENSEI includes stuff that some people find offensive or uncomfortable, but if you are okay with it then I'd suggest it if u wanna appreciate the worldbuilding/lore and character development cause the plot is great! I only have three words for MASHLE: anime Harry Potter! If you want magic, mystery and shenanigans, this is perfect! CLASSROOM OF THE ELITE is honestly, like, so good, idek if I can describe it lmao, but if you haven't watched any shows that involve manipulative and scheming characters and/or the concept of "having to win to survive" then I need you to know that this show is legit top tier in every aspect ✨️ I haven't watched WINDBREAKER yet lol, so can't say anything altho it's on my list cause I think it sounds cool

Phoenix

I would have thought Sakamoto Days would have been on the List?

Steven Cavanagh

Oh my god, why isn't there an "all of them" option 😩

Phoenix

Did it happen or not ? why tf would any adult watch an mc who’s a pedophile ?

le

I don’t know if judging a show with nearly 50 episodes based on a couple of out of context clips is the best approach

FTN Chicken

I’m surprised windbreaker is here on the poll it’s one of my favourite animes from last year it’s peak

Gavin fox

I feel like My Dress Up Darling initially had the same issue, but the people who really hate the show just end up disengaging

FTN Chicken

I love MT but not a fan of the mc

Gavin fox

“SUPER friendly”

FTN Chicken

But then there’d be no drama 😜

FTN Chicken

“SUPER friendly”

FTN Chicken

Mashle please win

Gavin fox

If you're worried about the infamous comment section battleground on polls, maybe it'd be better to turn off comments? Anyways, I've never watched any of these, and I only tune in for reactions to shows I've watched, so I'll vote for Mashle (i.e. the poll option highest on my watch list).

Merfhew

Konosuba 🙏🙏🙏

Hebz

Found the pedophile

Waver

Found the pedophile

Waver

Found the pedophile

Waver

What about Fruits Basket, Dororo and Erased ?

Rubie

"people who like shonen wouldn't understand how great my pedophile anime is!"

Waver

He's 40. He's using his new body to take advantage of children.

Waver

"you don't understand the series!" No we just don't enjoy pedophilia as entertainment

Waver

Nobody calls it that. The anime released in 2022. Every single popular isekai had released before then. SAO, RE:Zero, and konosuba all had novels before it as well. It's not the grandfather of anything. It's NEW

Waver

Here we go another Rudeus apologist. If he wanted to be redeemed he should've do that in jail. I swear every fan of that show fills in the otaku, virgin, weakling stereotype. Find a job and stop reflecting yourself in Rudeus aswell

SeiferJaeger

Bro Konosuba would be ELITE

YYZHawk

Uhh?? Are you forgetting he was reincarnated? He is literally a grown adult. Pushing 40 to say the least. ☠️

KORU-xoxo

Now I don't care which one wins the poll, I just want to know How much Carlie & Ange knows about Mushoku Tensei before this Poll and why they picked it into the poll 😂😂😂 Everyone knows putting Mushoku Tensei into a poll is going to create the most friendly comment section ever

Khoi Pham

how's he a pedo ? rudeus is like 14

J

Not the biggest fan of any of these but at least if Mashle wins I get to hear Ange play more Creepy Nuts

TheSuavestOrange

hmm.. OPTION 6: MORE ONE PIECE

Hakan Bakan

Mashle is a good show but got super famous because of it's OP. Other than that you won't miss nothing.

SeiferJaeger

you're stupid. The show is literally about a fucked up mc that achieved nothing in life and how his character develops over the series, no need to insult the mangaka just because you don't understand the series.

Zain Tahir

Bro Made in Abyss is another pedo and cringe show, totally overrated

SeiferJaeger

lol never used twitter literally nobody uses that site in my country, but think what you will it doesn't make mushoku tensei less of a pedo anime with a pedo main character that gropes children whenever he has the chance

im__JAM

Mushoku Tensei is kinda slow pace show and one of the most cringe shows i've ever watched (alongside with made in abyss). A lot of pedo shit. It's clearly a show when the mangaka reflects himself as the mc and fulfills his darkest desires. Literally. The world building is one of the best tho, as an isekai is one of the most aclamated. If you're able to watch a show entirely hating the mc you're fine. Konosuba on the other hand is an isekai based on pure comedy, a parody of every other isekai which have the same sinopsis almost always. It's a cummer show too, if you know what i mean: lots of waifus, big boobs everywere, asses etc. I've enjoyed that show more than the others just for the comedy.

SeiferJaeger

mushoku is great, I'm surprised how seriously people take it

J

As a future request, I think you guys would love Dr. Stone!!

Lex

I really really hope you won't watch Mushoku Tensei, because it is honestly digusting. mc is literally a p3do. I tried giving it a chance but I couldn't watch more than a few chapters. and no character development can excuse all of what I was able to see in the beginning

Nicole Ortega

was he not a grown up put into a kids body and thinking about doing shit to a kid or not? answer quickly pls

le

Well it's more so that as with every flawed character that makes mistakes you are supposed to see them for what they are, if they do something bad then that's bad and you are supposed to see that it's bad.

Ryuuji Gremory

they made the goat VA Tomokazu Sugita voice an absolute creep :p i feel like no one has ever said that in the comment section before

Jay rellim

I'm a sucker for Konosuba.

NovaVortex

"HOW DARE HE FALL IN LOVE WITH SOMEONE HIS AGE, FALL IN LOVE WITH A GRANDMA, YOU PEDOPHILE"

Alisher

Try it, it will more than likely just be incorrect BS that someone else already tried to pull out of their ass, but feel free.

Ryuuji Gremory

i love mushoku tensei but i dont think its for reactions. if it does win ill just say this. you are supossed to "hate the mc's actions"

Bradalz

i can brainstorm how to rip on this show in a way that no one else has if that's what you prefer

Jay rellim

That is exactly what i was thinking, you have good taste sir.

Richard Matthew Taylor

of course people that only consume shonenslop won't like MT, too smooth-brained for that

Alisher

Yeah, like I said very shallow and very biased. Considering how wrong you are I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't even watch the show.

Ryuuji Gremory

Heeding your advice. Super Friendly comment. Watch Shogun instead. Just ignore this poll. Watch Shogun on your own time and post a 10 minute clip after you have seen it.

Amrith

I personally love Mushoku Tensei despite it being controversial. There’s some kind of realness in it (including the ugly side of things) and that draws me in emotionally — I can imagine a real person going through that journey in an isekai. So if you look at it with a “this is happening to a real person” perspective, I think you’ll enjoy it more. Also the world building and animation are great

Melody

Everybody who knows what they're talking about calls it the "grandfather of isekai" because that's literally what mushoku is... wtf are you on about Waver, it literally inspired almost all popular Isekais

ImZeaT

In other words you either didn't watch the show and got your opinion from someone else or watched it and didn't bother to actually paying attention to anything.

Ryuuji Gremory

you know what i hope it wins the poll just to see them drop it immediately. if you can't tell why it's problematic and gross it's no use arguing with you

greyxwaren

Yes! Absolutely agree.

Robin

So what is your take on A song of Fire and Ice/Game of Thrones?

Ryuuji Gremory

The first 8 episodes are very well written as well, just because they cover unpleasant topics doesn't mean they are badly written.

Ryuuji Gremory

Hey guys, just a heads up, if Mushoku ends up winning you should consider not reading any comments under the show, or filter them somehow, I've seen this happen every time someone watched the show, most of the subs that don't like the show, instead of ignoring it completely will come into the comments to complain about it and try to ruin your experience and the viewers'

Tibbers

I like mashle i'm not the biggest fan of it but if the cream puff chad can be the barrier against incel fantasy mushoku tensei then it has my vote.

Matthias

mushoku is the best written show here if you get past the first 8 eps

VoltraFr

"I have never seen it but I know" in other words, you don't know shit, you are just jumping on some twitter circlejerk.

Ryuuji Gremory

Nothing you said about MT is factual, it's a very shallow and very biased view on things.

Ryuuji Gremory

Found the chronically online twitter user.

Ryuuji Gremory

Mashle is winning because everyone that doesn't like Mushoku is voting for it out of spite lmao

Tibbers

???

Luqman Muhammad

???

Luqman Muhammad

just please no pedo anime mushuko tensei

im__JAM

All are bad. Do fun stuff. No pedo business please.

Rockstar

anything but mushoku, on god

Dzernys

Windbreaker 😍😍😍

Schelterin

Windbreaker is never going to win one of these 😭😭🙂‍↕️

Aaron Mitchell

They watched Dandadan and enjoyed it, trust me, they will enjoy Mushoku Tensei. Where were you when they started watching Dandadan ? Not a patreon yet, I suppose.

Nessa.

Dang, no Ranking of Kings or Made in Abyss. Better luck next time I guess.

ButtersLovesYou

Yeah, I dont think you guys are going to enjoy Mushoku Tensei. Even if you are on the side of "its a pedo mc" or "its not", the fact there is even a discussion about it should tell you enough tbh.

Caracas

oh and i watched anime my whole life too so your comment is jsut confusing bcs i find that show weird and disturbing and not in a good way. defenders will say to ignore "unpleasant moments" and the said unpleasant moments are literal pedophilia. those moments have me immediately checked out especially when the show tries to play it off as nothing

greyxwaren

It shouldn't if they're trying to have varied content.

Mekar

how does windbreaker have the least votes? D:

Gabriel Barott

My bad ❤️

llama

Konosuba is absolutely hilarious. Mashle is a great gimmick but it gets pretty generic by the end of s1, and s2 is no better. I think it's mostly popular because of its s2 OP

Mekar

Ranking of Kings is definitely your type, after seeing how you guys love characters like Baby Chopper

Khoi Pham

"having watched anime your whole life" doesn't make you a prophet lmao and thank you for bringing up made in abyss, a show that uses child brutality and mutilation in a sexual light. and mushoku's problem does not stop at "oops protag lifted girl's skirt teehee" no. it depicts actual pedophilia and tries to play it of as a gag so it's x10 worse than mineta and they already stated how much they don't like that

greyxwaren

I'd personally go: Kono > Mushoku > Any other. Whatever wins y'all in the comments need to be a bit more respectful and just accept other people's tastes won't always align with your own, Carlie and Ange aren't going anywhere, your shows you love may be watched eventually, just wait~

Addstir

Same, I voted elite but the vote was too far behind, so I voted for Mashle.

Nashop

Nothing good for me here to watch unfortunately

Jesus Rocha

I wanted dr stone or fate :(

Jesus Rocha

I'd prefer Classroom of the Elite but I'm voting Mashle so Mushoku doesn't win lmao. I'm so tired of Rudeus apologizers justifying everything by saying "he gets better!" He doesn't, you're coping.

Chimpman

Idk if y'all read the comments on these, but as someone who has watched anime his whole life ignore every single person who claims something has paedophilia in it, I beg. The shows would not be huge in the West if that were the case. People call Made In Abyss and Mushoku Tensei problematic mostly due to child nudity on rare occasions and mention of genitalia. (Edit: The hilarious thing is, Ange loves Dragonball, which frequently SHOWS kid Goku/Gohan's penis', as well as OG Dragonball which has Goku slapping Bulma's genitals, having Roshi see her exposed on the island, and so on. I doubt the two of you will care about the very rare "discomforting" scenes the 2 shows mentioned have to offer <3)

Addstir

Agreed. There are a few episodes that can be very triggering for people. This show needs a bit of a content warning.

Jade

Let’s goo mashle, I’m tired of seeing that pervert mc

Mia

Konosuba pls. We need some peak comedy adventure isekai here!

John Mark

Dororo hasnt ever featured on a poll here and Ranking of Kings got obliterated in our last poll. Ranking of Kings is something we’re interested in watching but as a Patreon exclusive, this is a poll for series that are a bit more Youtube relevant

Carlie & Ange

Someone tell me what to vote

le

isn't mushoku tensei about that one PDF file protag? nah that makes me mad uncomfortable. gonna have to skip that one if yall decide to watch it :/

greyxwaren

no idea what are these 😅

Han Tun Lin

No need to argue, you can definitely search google yourself

Khoi Pham

What? Nobody calls it the "grandfather of isekai." Nobody. And the show is just pedophilia. Every other show on the list is easily 10x better

Waver

I understand your hate on the sexual topic of this one. I like the story and the world building of Mushoku Tensei, even for the main character, his adventure or life is quite interesting to follow. But sometimes the author adds too much weird shit, it ruins the experience for readers/viewers. But they call Mushoku Tensei "grandfather of isekai" for a reason. Warning Carlie & Ange about the controversy is a must, so that even if they decide to watch, they would expect these. But in terms of Anime quality, I would vote for Mushoku Tensei. None of the other anime even come close.

Khoi Pham

My *personal* rankings: 1: Mashle 2: Classroom of the Elite 3: Windbreaker 4: Konesuba 5: Mushoku Tensei (Haven't watched it so idk )

Tigerclaw

I’ve never seen one of these but i do know Mushoku is literally an mc is a pedophile I couldn’t watch after seeing some scenes so wouldn’t recommend it’s disgusting

le

🫡

Trent Claycomb

It's actually so underrated

Tigerclaw

Ngl I've watched both and I enjoyed Mashle more It really depends on the person imo

Tigerclaw

Fr

Tigerclaw

I think you guys should look into OREGAIRU and Grand Blue Dreaming at some point. Just sayin'

Stefan

Mushoku tensei has a worse Mineta as the MC so you know to keep that in mind

Boli

It's odd to completely get rid of the runner ups from the last poll. The next poll should be the EXACT same as the last one but with the winner replaced.

Waver

Ig ppl have opinions but I've watched 4/5 of these and almost none of the other shows ppl are suggesting in the comments lol

Tigerclaw

I said what i said xd

jep2003

Mashle I think is the vibe, so 100% throw my hat in the ring for that, and hopefully one day I'll see delicious in dungeon on the list~

Ghoullie

I voted for mashle bc it has the best chance of winning but COTE and Windbreaker are underrated imo And I don't get why ppl say these poll choices suck lmao (I've seen 4/5 of these and they're all pretty good 😭)

Tigerclaw

Honestly, Mushoku Tensei is by far the best choice here (2nd is Mashle), although I don't know if you guys are going to be able to watch it and... 'focus'.

Semir Tahir

I humble request ranking of kings or blue box for your consideration in this poll or the next!

Whammadoodoo

Haven't seen any of these yet. Sigh.

Cyber

Hi, Could you edit your comments please ? There are spoilers.

Nessa.

@llama - Mushoku Tensei not leading to good discussions ? In my opinion, it's actually one of the best shows out there when it comes to deep and interesting discussions... There's sooo much to discuss (won't say anything). Besides, they watched Dandadan so I feel like they could watch (almost) anything now. xD @Lorian - I do agree that Ranking of Kings would be a great show for them too.

Nessa.

No he’s right

llama

This list compared to last anime poll is such a let down tbh. I think it’s better if you guys reacted to the shows mentioned in the other poll like dororo or ranking of kings.

llama

You know, I'm pretty sure that they are aware. They absolutely read all the comments there are about Mushoku Tensei and know all about it. And yet, it's still here, on the poll, which means that they are still interested in watching it. Just saying.

Nessa.

Are we allowed to make multiple accounts and buy subscriptions just to vote on this?

Xan

Its important to be confidently wrong in life its better than being wrong and uncertain.

Xan

Can i nominate That Time I Got Reincarnated As A Slime or Dr. Stone. So under rated.

Brett Westbrooks

These are all pretty garbage tbh lol got a whole world of anime out there to watch other than one of these.

Alex McCalmont

I agree I feel like none of the above listed shows are in their “type” and they don’t lead to good discussions either

llama

I feel like all of these are bangers.

Alex Chen

And these two have made it very clear they don't enjoy that kind of thing

Waver

The difference is it's not made to be comedy or glorified in TV and Movies like it is in certain anime like mushoku tensei, which is why its weird af.

Alex McCalmont

Ranking Of Kings would be an amazing show for you guys.

Lorian

Re:Zero is so quality rn and there isn't too much to catch up to. Hopefully you guys get around to it, but thanks for all the content regardless.

Evan Valenti

Nice

vienki

People watch worse on live TV and movies everyday. All comes down to emotional maturity, and if you're able to see the depth beyond the superficial level. Also, some people are sensitive to certain topics and themes more than others. So that plays a big factor on how much people enjoy the underlying story.

shamel black

voting for mashle just so mushoku wont win lol imagine watching mineta get to live a great life (barely jk)

Jay rellim

wdym it's 1% above mushoku tensei lol

Jay rellim

Mushoku Tensei, hopefully, this is your time !

Nessa.

No Dr Stone... :'( For comedy, it would have been perfect...

Nessa.

I like mashle but its crazy that its winning this hard lol

jep2003

The second part of Mushoku Tensei season 2 came out between now and the last time this show was on a poll, and I think it shows in the comments. (or maybe people are just biting their tongues because they wanna be "SUPER friendly")

FTN Chicken

Wind Breaker, a coming of age fight for recognition, is short and the second season is coming soon, so now would be a good time to watch. Konosuba is a very memeable fun ride and Mushoku Tensei a grown up story with a more serious tone. Those are the three I’d prefer but all would be fine.

Alderanex

Haven’t seen any of these:0

ademawithluv

Hoping Fate Zero makes a comeback into the polls, it's barely missed the win each time it showed up 😢

Blake Richey

tbh, those are shows I expected would be Patreon exclusive, so I'm surprised we haven't touched any of them yet

FTN Chicken

MUSHOKU TENSEI!

LilYoha

FYI Mushoku Tensei is controversial for having a complete pedophile as the main character with A LOT of sexual harassment. These are the "rough moments" the fanboys are trying to downplay. The main character is Mineta but worse

Waver

Muwahahahaa time to be evil and toxic in the comments 😈

DemoniCross

Yes yes yes. Might be a while if they end up going through the rest of the poll but one day I hope its up there. Great show

Cameron Hall

Also going to take this time to suggest Golden Kamuy as a future Patreon exclusive. I think it would tick all of the boxes for humor, adventure, and characters. It’s currently got 4 seasons, a total of 48 episodes.

ViperBreeze

Mushoku just cause i still haven't watch mashle i know its super good too

Jeff

mushoku is in my top 3, please just stick through some of the unpleasant early moments and try to appreciate one of the greatest stories

Jeff C

I would Love to see another sports anime like kuroko no basket

Victor Aardalen

considering how much they liked kaguya sama, konosuba should be a auto pick, its sooo freaking funny

Jawad Ali Khan

Let's go MASHLE!! But I'm happy as long as no Isekai wins.

Phil

Mushoku is so peak, if this is chosen, please survive some of the unpleasant moments

Burezu

LFG Mushoku Tensei, PEAK isekai! (along with Re:Zero ofc) Love it or hate it, its a masterclass in "mixed emotions" which I believe will make great reactions and discussions

MrYinYang

Mushoku peak!!!

Frosstbyte

Don't see many with the same name. Good to know 😲🤝

Zain

I've never heard of any of these lol

Kolton Nay

I am very worried that Mashle is winning this. I voted MT but will switch to Konosuba if it has any chance of winning.

Nethzil

Oh gott please ANYTHING but mashle

Nethzil

Hoping for Konosuba or Mash, could use a good laugh

Mark Drumheller III

Lets gooo Konosuba !!

stevenj0e

Yeah i’m happy they decided to add my happy marriage as a romance watch. They’re already watching so many things so i think that one is more like a bonus because they already enjoyed the show on their own time

Frida BØ

Mashle is such an awesome and easy watch. I know you guys would looove it, it’s so fun and light hearted

James Kearney

Mushoku tensei please

Zain Tahir

Yo same name

Zain Tahir

KONO FREAKING SUBA!!!!

Bill0g

only classroom of the elite and windbreaker that i haven't watch on this list.. for fun, i want mashle to win while for fantasy, i highly recommend mushoku tensei ♥️

YanuE X

Low key I would love to see “Fruit Basket” 👀🐭🐱

YK

you have to watch the top 3 in the poll.. must watch.. 🫶

YanuE X

I know you guys like the newer stuff, but any chance we can get an old school anime feature? lol Maybe some Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, Trigun? Akira movie? I don't see alot of people asking for these so I see why you'd pass lol Either way you guys are the best, love the reactions!

Rob V.

They’ll do it one day. Usually they have a designated slot for a romance anime. Think rn it’s my happy marriage

Wiznoot123

they would LOVE fruits basket. especially carlie 😭

deb

Not to contribute to it, but if Mashle somehow beats Kobosuba for comedy… that is wild lmao

CastSenpai

Please give " Saga of Tanya the Evil" a watch its great😃

Zain

maybe next time

Xpider

Come on you konosuba fans

Love Is all you need

Classroom of the Elite is very, very good. Let's go with drama and psychology.

Eduardo

One day i’ll get my wish for Fruits Basket to be picked 😭❤️ I don’t care if i have to wait until i’m a shriveled up prune with one foot already in the grave… anyway i haven’t seen any of these so it’s an opportunity to watch something new!

Frida BØ

rip fate fans

icyblackbox

Reading people "debate" about the sexual content in My Dress Up Darling and Mushoku Tensei in the previous polls was quite a trip

FTN Chicken

Don't know why I don't like mashle, probably the same reason I don't like one punch man

Alijah Edwards

I'm happy with any of these. However my personal ranking would be: 1. Mushoku Tensei 2. Konosuba 3. Mashle 4. Classroom of the Elite 5. Windbreaker

Matthew Hunt Davies

There's so much problematic behavior from Rudy before you even reach the xxxxxxx stuff lol. But yeah totally agreed

FTN Chicken

Mashle leading is kinda crazy

Christiano

How about cowboy bebop or yuyu hakusho?!

Ian

Konosuba the best! Isekai, Peak Comedy, Humor, Adventure, Music as well!

John Mark

It’s literally only between Konosuba and Jobless Reincarnation. I vote for Konosuba as idk how the whole pervy thing will fly with them lol

Trent Claycomb

konosuba absolutely should win, moshuko tensei is good too, i have no idea why mashle is winning tbh...

Brandon Barnwell

Y'all would love how light-hearted mashle is!!

Mochichi

“…everyone is SUPER friendly with each other in the comment section!” I guess I’ll be reading a few of the previous poll comment sections. 😅 But seriously, a lot of great anime titles to vote for here.

Eric

Ange would love mashle I'm sure

Michael Philliber

I pray to the voting gods for it to be Konosuba

Deathonater5

Yesssss Mushoku Tensei. I hope this one wins!

ViperBreeze

I'm TORN between Windbreaker and Mashle omg!! So badly want you guys to react to Windbreaker but I could do with some extra laughs in my life right now so Mashle it is for now LMAO (I hope it wins! 🤞)

Meg

They’d find konosuba HILARIOUS guys, cmon

Shane x Masters

Code geass when😭they won't react to Death note so code geass atleast comes close

sumi

Ah true forgot about that

Asam

No Jojo's BA 😭😭😭

Rossinante

They’ve watched Re: Zero

Wiznoot123

Please watch an anime called “KINGDOM” it’s literally a masterpiece and the animation gets a lot better passed season 1 and 2

Ruellete

I don’t think they’ve ever watched an isekai though, it might be a bit jarring for their first entry into the genre

Asam

Could you please consider continuing tokyo ghoul. It saddens me that you guys stopped at the end of season 1

Shaun Bennett

Nah these choices are tough... but COE thoughhhhhhh

Muni

I've only seen KonoSuba on this list but voted Mashle because I just really want to watch it so you guys can be my motivator 😂

Willhoe

I keep reading classroom of the elite and thinking of assassination classroom lol

Molly

NICE MUSHOKU, next up "That Time I Reincarnated As Slime" best match up for isekai genre. Those like 2 sides of coin

Alpasha Shasha

Just saw konosuba on there, that one’s fun too

Yoongles

Love being super friendly with everyone 🤣

Zeli

Oooo this is a good list. All of these shows are bangers.

Dune

I’ve never hit an option so fast. I didn’t think you guys would actually go for Konosuba. Konosuba is peak laid back fun comedy. A nice refresher from all the serious shonen and stuff

Wiznoot123

Oh dear I’ll be surprised if mashle wins but I sure would love it

Yoongles

Mushoku Tensei HYPE!!! That’s the number 1 show I’ve wanted you guys to watch since One Piece!

Asam

nah lil bro

Jamel Cornish

Cobra kai🐍

Godis brus


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