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did you get butthurt cause i said "mansplaining"? cause i just read my comment all over again to make sure and i definitely did not use any genders. as for second thing, i know exactly what comment Ange was refering to as i replied to same comment weeks back, there is no assumption. i was angry when i first saw the comment, and i got twice as mad when i saw how it steered ange to wrong conclusions thus my rant here

Cayseron

Well, I agree but why does the gender of the person doing it have any bearing here? Also, why do you assume Carlie and Ange were told so by someone? The way I understood it Ange just thought that it was mentioned before in the show.

Noctislolig

"It has to be Killua." iykyk

Elli

I’m so ready for the next arc!! Favorite arc in any anime hands down. It’s the reason I claim this anime as my number 1!!

Wesley Lambert

Yes maybe it was an inaccuracy to say the least and maybe I'm wrong but I do see their values overlapping in one way or another--in fact I'd see Kurapika being more like Chrollo than anything else, which is what made it so hard for Kurapika to actually kill them cause he saw them as human in the manga there's a lot of shit going down right now but it's CONSTANTLY implied that they are alike and it's something Gon noticed, he noticed that Kurapika is becoming more of a cold blooded killer and he saw the troupe as human--even if that pissed him off, he still noticed it. At the end of the day all I was trying to say was Gon is more aligned with the troupes values than most people think, especially when reading the manga--chrollo's backstory etc The troupe are selfish and selfish which is one of the main qualities Gon carries, he is selfless to his friends often always lending a helping hand but that would mean Gon would have to oppose someone usually which he doesn't mind doing He asks Chrollo "Why do you kill people who have nothing to do with you" which is an interesting thing to think about when you look at Chrollo more in depth--he is someone who is confused by himself, he is someone struggling with his own identity which is the same as Gon, Gon is only applying his life to finding Ging--not finding himself and that's the entire premise of the show, a child who is learning and growing as time goes on Chrollo is someone who got lost in that chase for identity, that chase for revenge and vengence and eventually lost himself but Chrollo at his core is actually very selfless and very caring while remaining selfish to the desires of the spider (his friends) which is something that Gon and him have in common Had Gon had a rougher life, he would've ended up like Uvogin because he is compared to him by Nobunaga, noting that Gon and Uvogin are similar I do believe I mistyped and didn't give the entire context--I simply meant had circumstances been different, I can easily see Gon being part of the troupe I was wrong, my bad

Addi

oh I didn't know this, never watched it. ty for the suggestion

Martina

1) When did he "allow" others to kill around him? He can't go back and change Killua's past, and like I said, Killua had already ran away from home and didn't want to be an assassin anymore. There's that time in the Trick Tower where he didn't care that Killua stole Johnness's heart, but as Leorio said before that, Johness is a criminal who's killed hundreds of people already. Johness also made threats to Killua and was intent on crushing him, so it could be said that what Killua did was also self defense. It was a fight, Killua didn't simply go in there and murdered someone because he wanted to. The Troupe doesn't distinguish their victims, they just kill any person they get in their way, be they criminal or not. Huge difference. He also just stopped caring about Razor murking Bobobo but it could also be argued that it's because Razor told him that Bobobo was a murderer-rapist. Even Carlie said tht Razor should have killed Bobobo sooner. 2) Zepile judged Gon's moral compass based only in the few moments they've been together and because on the fact that Gon didn't judge him as a bad person for creating fakes. To compare creating fake artifacts to Troupe business like killing (actual genocide) just to steal things is stupid. We've already seen Gon judge people for doing normal bad stuff like killing or harassing others. Zepile also said that Gon is impossible to appraise and that's basically admitting that his assessment of Gon can be off. 3) Just because Gon is not a social justice warrior doesn't mean he likes the Troupe and that he would join them out of curiosity. There's really no indication of that. You said that Gon won't allow them to join their sports team in Greed Island because of Kurapika, but Kurapika isn't around, so are you sure that was really just because of Kurapika? I don't think so, because he was also against Hisoka joining their team first because he knows that Hisoka is dangerous. Again, he was raised by Mito who obviously taught him how to be a traditionally good person. Aside from him understanding why Pakunoda, Machi, and the others, want to rescue Chrollo, we've seen no indications so far that Gon liked the Troupe. 4) "many people say he's consistently inconsistent" That's true and that's why I said in an earlier reply that Gon's moral compass can be chaotic to most people. That doesn't mean he likes the Troupe or he would join them if Kurapika didn't exist. Some of the things you said I agree, but I'm only focusing on what you said about Gon liking the troupe and joining them if Kurapika didn't exist. Nothing in what you said helps the narrative that Gon likes the troupe or would join them if Kurapika didn't exist.

Astor Lefflinker

My point wasnt that he didnt have that side, in fact I mentioned it quite a bit ago that he does have an earnest side--I also mentioned that he's a hypocrite, he criticizes others for killing while allowing people to kill around him. He is a child, so he's naturally hypocritical, he's a blank slate so everything around him influences him, he is written in a way that he's still a child but brought into a world where morals conflict with everything--that's what it means to be a hunter, its to be yourself while helping the association--I don't wanna go too in depth here as it contains spoilers for the final arc but the main purpose of the Hunter Association is that its a form of identity for risk takers and those who want to do more, Gon is always implied to be like Ging and its always stated that Gon is a good hunter, including episode 2 where he has natural perceptiveness, kindness etc he has many qualities of being a good hunter but one of the main things people miss about the hunter organization is that they're not morally righteous, they are simply people who allow freedom to those who deserve it, they allow hunters to kill without consequences, similar to Gon with his friends this is what I mean by Gon is a hypocrite, a good hunter, earnest and all of the above He displays many traits of being a good person while having a more weird area where he is stubborn, awfully selfish at the expense of others, self aware yet negligent and most of all, a child The main thing we have to do is see what happens to Gon when he does eventually grow up (maybe someday if that ever happens) because as of right now, I see Gon as constantly evolving with every arc and molding his personality as any child would Also we really shouldn't glance over what Zepile said, he himself is a good judge of characters being able to know when someone is bluffing etc--he actually has good traits for being a hunter--thats besides the point, anyway he did view Gon as having a weird sense of morality which is displayed A LOT in this series, it genuinely isnt something you can naturally gloss over--thats stupid, Gon's morality is mostly weird when it comes to friends or things he's interested in for example, he was interested in the scams that Zepile had done and was curious how they work--without actually caring that Zepile was once a fraud scam artist I will say this about Gon, Gon is someone who judges characters based on intentions--not actions, mostly displayed in the final arc which I don't want to spoil at any cost, he himself seemingly bends his moral code while remaining consistent--this is mostly due to his innate need to care for those who have helped him. IN CONCLUSION; Gon is a cute softie child that is simply growing and is easily influenced by things and those around him and will continue to grow as time goes on, we simply have to wait and see--many people say he's consistently inconsistent, many people say he's dangerous and many people see him as kind hearted this is mostly due to the fact that Gon is actually all of those, he simply displays traits differently to who he is against

Addi

@Addi the way I took it was that Gon was angry over the fact that Nobunaga could cry for his dead friend Uvo, but could not spare the same sympathy for all the people they've killed. At the end of the day, Gon was still raised in a good home by Mito who thought him "normal values" values such as not lying, keeping your promise, and of course, being kind. The troupe on the other hand has a very different background story and motivation and would kill ruthlessly for personal gain. That's why I can't imagine Gon actually liking the troupe and joining them, because they do things that he doesn't like. 1) Gon already felt bad about tricking people with the arm wrestling, meanwhile the Troupe has repeatedly stated that they just take whatever they want. How would Gon feel about stealing and killing for treasures? I just can't imagine Gon liking that 2) They're willing to cheat Greed Island while we know Gon feels very strongly against that. I could think of many more examples, but his aversion to the troupe is clearly not all just because of Kurapika. Their values and personalities will really clash, especially with certain members of the troupe. He was also even against Hisoka joining their team initially because he knows hisoka is dangerous. The only thing that changed that is Bisky saying that Hisoka is lying. You could say that yes, Gon isn't mad about Killua being a former assassin, but it can be argued that Gon lives in the moment and when he met Killua, he knows that Killua already ran away from home and doesn't want to be an assassin anymore. Meanwhile, the Troupe is actively doing Troupe things like killing and stealing and shows no signs of stopping.

Astor Lefflinker

The reason he said that was due to kurapika, I said if Kurapika didn't exist AKA wasn't Gon's friend there's a chance he would've joined them--their values are very similar to his own in fact, Togashi has stated that Chrollo is the most selfless character in the entire story and that's why he likes him, he dislikes politicians and people who aren't genuine however Chrollo resembles the opposite of that, he is someone will always put the spider over himself--Gon is someone who shares similar values with his friends who will put his friends over the lives of others, he only hates the troupe because of the previous influence from Kurapika, this is one of the most known hypocrisies in the entire story--he himself was mad at the troupe for killing people yet overlooks Killua working as an assassin previously--it's hinted that it's not actually the killing that bothers Gon but rather that they killed Kurapika's clan

Addi

@Addi I don't agree that Gon started liking the troupe, and I strongly disagree that he would have joined them out of curiosity. It's just that he started understanding that they care about each other. He especially understood why Pakunoda and the others like Machi wanted to prioritize saving Chrollo rather than what's pragmatically best for the troupe. He's said that he'd rather die than join them and have called out Nobunaga for being a hypocrite. Even just recently, before meeting Hisoka in Greed Island, he said that if the player who's named "Chrollo" turns out to be a Troupe member, they won't invite them in to the team. He'd generally dislike the way Troupe members deals with things because they're very underhanded and we've already seen how Gon doesn't like underhanded things.

Astor Lefflinker

Yep I hear you. Just decided not to see it that way. Cuz it resonates with me more like that. That’s why I never listen to author interviews or watch or read them I don’t actually care what they meant (most of the time) Interpretation of art is a two way street. Once it’s out the art belongs to the audience imo. Isn’t it cool tho? Other than that, I do see how influenced he gets when he seemed to be someone who defines his identity and desires by himself. At least I think that’s what Killua saw in Gon and admired and so now that his adventures are changing him (and in a bad way) Killua sees this and gets scared and conflicted

Salahadine Abaine

And also he still ends up liking Razor because Razor is a fascinating person who is linked to Ging and gave Gon a challenge, he quite literally glanced over Razor murdering someone and was selfish for his own curiosity, had Gon been a righteous little child he would’ve definitely judged him harder, judged killua harder and judged kurapika for killing Uvogin

Addi

Gon is interesting because he is someone who doesn’t like seeing people he has met, die—which is an interesting observation I made when looking back at who he judges and how he questions things, Gon certainly isnt amoral but he certainly isn’t righteous he even was curious why Razor killed Bobo not because of the fact that Razor killed but because he’s supposed to be on Razors side

Addi

What makes Gon interesting is that he started to like the troupe, had Kurapika not existed he would’ve probably joined them out of curiosity especially considering they compared him to Uvogin (I really wish I could say more but I’m worried carlie and ante will read this and I don’t wanna spoil anything) anyway

Addi

@Salahadine Abaine Zepile is not a reliable narrator. He's just another character in this fictional world. Just because he said that about Gon doesn't mean he's 100% right. For example, he also said that Gon is impossible to appraise. It's very hard to read him and he's unpredictable. I also don't agree that Gon doesn't care that he or his friends kill people. At the end of the Yorknew Arc, didn't he say to Pakunoda that because Kurapika is their friend, that's the reason why he doesn't want him to kill anymore? Gon definitely cares and has a strong sense of morality. The thing is, morality is a construct, and Gon's sense of morality can be chaotic or naive for most people and that leads to many people misunderstanding him as someone who disregards morality. He's definitely selfish. More selfish than other kids, but if we're talking about morality in the normal sense of the word, he's very different from Hisoka who really only cares about his desire to fight strong people.

Astor Lefflinker

I already told you why he's the way he is, by Togashi's words--he's a blank slate influenced by every situation he's put in, if his friends have to kill--he'll let them kill but his innate need to care for his friends makes him more human yet more selfish, the whole story of HxH is the value of people, humanity, your own twist on helping the world etc. I'll explain after the last arc but to put it simply Gon; he's 12 and gets influenced by external things, he himself is a blank canvas and everyone around him are the artists even without realizing it

Addi

For example, Gon doesn’t care that he or his friends kill people. He only cates when people kill his friends. In Yorkshire City Zepile said that Gon doesn’t judge people for good and bad stuff, he’s just curious about everything. What’s good or bad is mostly what satisfies him or doesn’t satisfy him. That’s why I compared him to Hisoka. Hisoka doesn’t necessarily considers good or evil, he just kills cuz he likes to and if Gon likes to kill he would, it just so happens that he doesn’t. He doesn’t have a sense of justice imo. Now you could also put that on the fact that he’s 12 years old but I just don’t like to see it that way

Salahadine Abaine

Yeah all I'm gonna say is he's a hypocrite, all children are that's why people come up with these idea's, Gon is obviously more selfish than most children though as he didn't have any actual parental figure besides Mito which displays his more earnest, nature loving side meanwhile he is confused and always bending into such a crazy/selfish nature on his other side, that's Gon's entire character--a blank slate that is influenced by those around him--those are Togashi's words, he is meant to be conflicting because any environment he's put in, he is heavily influenced by it--once they finish the anime I'd love to write more on his character analysis as HxH is my favourite anime and I've read the manga, all the theories etc but speaking of it rn would just contain major spoilers.

Addi

Ok first of all you all need to stop spoiling them with your "character analysis", you do more damage than you realize. Second of all did you honestly just called Gon amoral? The kid that has shown time and time again that he has a strong yet naïve sense of justice? Similar to Hisoka? Are you for real? Stop letting Youtubers gaslight you with their stupid youtube essays.

Jay

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John duran

Up!

Arthus Vinícius

I love that we are seeing gradually how selfish Gon is. He really prioritizes his desires over everybody else’s and at the expense of Killua, similar to Ging and I feel a lot of strong hunters. That side of his personality and his disregard for morality noticed by Zepile make me think he’s very similar to Hisoka (without the sex thing) but that’s a discussion for another time

Salahadine Abaine

I second watching the ep 1 of the 1999 version is imperative before starting the next arc. I also think you should watch the 1999 version of Pakunoda's death as it is much more well done and impactful.

Antique-Item

When bisky got out, it was because one of razors devils caught the ball immediately after bisky was hit, then razors devil immediately threw it at hisoka who then caught the ball. Therefore bisky is out.

Antique-Item

Love when ppl come around on Hisoka haha

Muza

REMEMBER THESE GOOD TIMES. because where these boys are headed next, its not gonna be fun

ONEEIGHTEEN

Following another user's suggestion above. I also hope you'd watch and react to episode 1 of the 1999 version. It's because the 2011 version cut a meeting with an important character during Gon's childhood. There are also some tidbits from the first episode of the 99 version that as some good payoffs later on. If you're going to watch and react to it, please use my edit because there's a couple of non-canon lines from Mito which I removed. So if you notice a couple of scenes with weird transition, that's from the cut. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUhN2s0LHbo

Astor Lefflinker

this is why i hate when people are mansplaining things to reactors. not only do they most of the time leak spoiler or "spoilers by proxy" cause they are simply uneducated or too conceited to understand what is or isnt spoiled, but they also spread misinformations thus making reactors to come to wrong conclusions. Nen does NOT get stronger if you hide the ability. its just that you have advantage in a combat/fight when people dont know what your ability is because you have element of surprise. but nen by no means work the way i saw people explain it to them and now hear ange thinks the same where if you dont tell someone how your ability works its stronger (not unlike JJK where if you explain your ability it gets stronger). that is just not true at all. In this specific case i dont entirely blame the person who led them to that WRONG conclusion because there could be language barrier and they probably originally DID want to just point out how element of surprise is very important and that is where nen's advantage come to play, but they did indeed make it sound as if nen gets powerup if you dont explain it

Cayseron

killua is seriously the best friend you can ask for. gon on the other hand is the worst lmao XD

Cayseron

Yo guys, love your reactions btw, just a lil suggestion, but I think you must watch ep 1 of the 1999 version before ep 76. It's very important!

Julory Razafimandimby


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