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So pumped for Season 4! Hinata was both cringe and hilarious during these episodes 😆


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Fun fact: In the 3rd Season, when we see the third years' flashback to them first joining the team, guess how Daichi learned how to receive?

Sharles Davis Kendy

Random thoughts: Carlie's lipstick looked really nice. Nice shade. I'd buy it! Washijou is definitely yelling at Hinata the most. But also, remember last season when Ushwaka told Goshiki that the reason Coach yelled at him the most because he expected the most out of him. I think Ukai's thought process was that they've sort of been hurting Hinata's development for the good of the team. Hinata hasn't learned a lot of the basics of volletball and jumped into the deep end right off the bat because Karasuno's offense is so tightly built around him. It's similar to the argument they had in Season 2 about the new Quick.

Sharles Davis Kendy

The nearly ten minutes it took you guys to realize this was a repeat was extremely amusing to me.

Sharles Davis Kendy

I just love Takeda sensei's words of wisdom while scolding Hinata in episode 2. "He who climbs the ladder must begin at the bottom"

sneakymickey

In the dub verison at the end tuski says to hinata "you wanna practice with me"

imvirals

I agree!

Jen Li

I think DandyZombie summed it up pretty well, but also, "People love to act as if Hinata had the same opportunities as everyone else" he could have joined a junior or club team? Or looked for people from other schools? There's opportunities outside of school. Yet he spent all his time begging his friends to throw him to ball so he can spike it. Kageyama told him, "what have you been doing these past 3 years?"

Stef

Dude, you are way to emotionally invested in this. There were ways for him to better his recieves. Its not all about having a practice partner! He got better at spiking all alone, why didn't he think to look up the fundamentals? I doubt the girls coach or moms team never told him how important that is. He could have looked up videos, watched games, looked up theory if he wanted. The show itself goes out of its way to tell you Hinatas perspective had been too narrow on spiking, Hinata himself admits that he was stupid for only ever paying attention to spiking. He is growing, he's a child so of course he's painted himself into a corner but its important for him to admit that so he can do better to round himself out. Idk why you feel so personally victimized by Hinata not being babied and spoiled and treated like a precious child that needs everyone's attention but you need to really reinvaluate what the show is trying to say.

DandyZombie

So you keep saying 'facts are facts" but the facts are that in order for Hinata to be on the team he had to be able to score points as he was missing the fundamentals. I think your taking Ukai's admission that Hinata hasn't had time to build on other skills as them using him but in order for a first year nearly newbie player to get that quality time to really get those skills is to not be a regular. To be made to be a ball boy as Daichi was in his flashback when the team was deeper. Hinata wasn't able to have time to really get those skills both because they needed him to focus on the skills that got the team points and because Hinata couldn't afford to stop to work on basics when at any moment another player could've proved to be more useful to the overall team. This is a high school club and just as Suga doesn't get to be a regular just because he's been on the team longer, Hinata could have been switched out if he wasn't able to keep up. Nothing was stopping him from doing extra practice to do receives man. And the coach didn't take him to grandpa and say "hey only do spikes with him!" grandpa himself ASKED HINATA what the issue was and Hinata brought it to spiking.

DandyZombie

Agree again. Season 1 shows people were teaching him fundamentals. But he doesn't want to focus on that. No one can force hinata to train on his fundamentals when he wants to learn something else. Ukai thinking they lacked in training Hinata is not exactly right because Hinata himself wants to focus on his spikes. Ukai may be thinking that, but it was also shown in the show that many times he was making everyone receive balls, or work on their serves. Hinata has been asked to work on his receives and serves but he was too focused on spiking. They can't teach Hinata if hinata himself doesn't want to learn. Hinata didn't even think to watch his senpais' receives. He was just forced to be an observer as a ballboy, that's why his perspective changed.

Jen Li

I agree with this. What I'm contesting is the accusation that the team specifically neglected Hinata's development. He was not in the right mind to learn other skills at that time as he is focused on staying as a regular. And as a regular, his only useful skill was his super fast spike. The team have been supportive of him learning other skills, as I mentioned, we saw suga and noya teaching him how to receive. But it's Hinata who chose to improve his quick spikes and not work on the fundamentals because he wanted to retain his position as a regular. None of the previous lessons stick to Hinata because his focused on spiking. We also see Yamaguchi just learning serves. Everyone is working on the skill that they believe can help the team. Same with Noya. He only started learning how to toss when he saw the merit of doing so from seijoh libero. Same with learning how to receive a jump float. No one is saying they neglected to teach Noya how to set before or receive jump floats before. Hinata only saw the merit of learning how to receive recently. What I'm saying is that the rule applies to everyone. Those that can help the team best becomes the regular. And each member hones the skills they believe can help the team best. I hate the implication that Hinata was sacrificed for the good team. Everyone made sacrifices for the team.

Jen Li

By the same logic, everyone was doing what they can actively do to help the team as a whole. The same way that Yamaguchi was only focusing on his serves. And Noya learning how to set. Because that's how they believes they can help the team. They did not specifically neglect Hinata's development. Suga was teaching Hinata how to receive before he even became official karasuno member. But even Hinata thought he should only focus on his spikes. So naturally, that's the direction of his training went. Hinata was the one who focused on only working on his quick to be useful to the team. It was only now that he realised how important to learn other skills because it opens other opportunities.

Jen Li

Nah youre just bending the story's intentions if thats your analysis. Hinata doesnt want or need any excuses and its hypocritical to say that nobody actively tried to help him improve his fundamentals then say Kageyama is arrogant for suggesting the exact same thing. Its unfortunate that Hinata started volleyball so late in his career and that he never got to craft his skills into progression but its not up to Karasuno to rectify that and theyre not liable for that responsibility. It starts with Hinata and that is so much better for the writing of a good protagonist as opposed to him being given direction. Just look at Tanaka, Noya and Asahi, and how they're looking to improve. Its a testament to Takeda's quote "the best thing we can do is make sure they don't stop thinking, and to make sure they keep searching for what's best for them"

ska

i feel like he yells when he sees people not living up to their potential. i could be wrong. but he yells at goshiki when he underperforms, he also yelled at tendo when he freezes instead of doing his "guess block", yet he never yells when he guesses wrong. so it is not mistakes that bother him but people not doing their best or doing what they do best.

Cayseron

i do somewhat agree with the statement that karasuno did not really show much interest into teaching foundations to hinata but same is true for the opposite, hinata never showed interest to properly learn foundations anyways, he knew he is "glass cannon" of the team, he is on the court as regular because he can score so his only focus was on mastering that one skill. he knew he is regular on the team because he was one trick pony but that one trick was effective. he had tunnel vision focusing only on making sure his one trick remain effective, he had no time to think about making his worse aspects slightly better so when it comes to season 2 dilemma i think there is no right or wrong, they all had right things in mind and they all executed their thoughts poorly

Cayseron

to answer your original question. "why exclude a player like Hinata when you include Hyakuzawa who has even less experience than hinata?" because it is the coach from shiratorizawa who gets to pick who is invited and who is not, and as ukai explains when he sees the roter of all the people invited (the one that includes tsukishima) every player that was invited there was around 190 or taller. Hyakuzawa was invited solely because of his height. And hinata was NOT invited for same reason (and if i may add subjective opinion, a bit out of pettiness as well). but main thing is that washijou was never interested in inviting any short kids no matter how good they are. As for other part "the training camp is to help improve the skills of the prefecture as a whole" yes you are correct, on objective scale. But point you are missing is that this is not situation that warants objective POV. Washijou has right to do whatever HE think is required to improve the skills of prefecture as a whole and in his mind it is showcasing the strenghts of his own philosophy and hoping other schools adopt it. Essentially his plan is to improve skills of tallest players in prefecture and show the schools how focusing on them is superior method (especially if his point gets backed up by these kids actually improving in short time they are in the training camp) if hyakuzawa comes back to his school as actual asset, he would be able to carry his team the way wakatoshi carried shiratorizawa, his team was already using same method shiratorizawa was using, only difference is their hyakuzawa was 1st year and lacked ushiwaka's experience. As for the whole arguing bit, i dont care about that. I think it is ridiculous to argue whether what hinata did was wrong or not and to what scale of wrong is it. Objectively what he did is considered intrusion. he forced his way in place he had no invitation and is not allowed to be. some would call it a crime even. Debate is not whether he did something wrong and from what i am reading everyone agrees about that part, as for part about whether people judge him too harshly or not... that is purely subjective. It was cringe for me but in the same time worst case scenario would be washijou just send him away and he trains with karasuno with one more embarassing story in his quiver so i dont see the point of fighting over it

Cayseron

kageyama is recognized as "genius" by volleyball official and he has at least 4 years of proper training experience. hinata joins karasuno with 0 proper match experience and his only experience whatsoever is that of his friends tossing ball in the air for him to spike. he only swallows his pride and start practicing with girls volleyball team and neighbours "mothers" team once he loses to kageyama and even then he is there as a third wheel, nobody would actually take time to profesionally teach him things... girl team coach has to focus on his actual team (just letting hinata join practice is a boon on its own) and (this is just my opinion) the mother team dont play competitively enough for him to actually learn things. Kageyama and coach treated him (back in season 2) the way they would treat anyone else in their own shoes not as someone with hinata's background. hinata knows he has one weapon and that weapon became useless, it would take him at least 3 or 4 years to hopefully be on level 1st years should normally be and he does not have that time. his only hope was to improve the only thing he can be useful at. it is not that kageyama and ukai were wrong, it is just that they were judging situation from generalized POV, they did not take hinata's special circumstances in consideration at all

Cayseron

kageyama's thinking is absolutely correct there (season 2) in that hinata should get better overall player not just desperately clinging to being scoring machine. but Hinata does not have luxury of time required to make that useful, essentially if hinata WAS spending that training time to improve his serve, blocking and receive he would just slightly get better in those where his scoring would remain on same level where he is completely at mercy of kageyama's prediction (if blockers read kageyama or adapt to his tosses then hinata becomes useless). hinata was not mentally in right state to learn back then everything he learns in these episodes because situation was different. He IS consistent scoring machine now and he was looking for the ways to get better player, not for a desperate way to remain on the court

Cayseron

hinata's thinking back in season 2 is based on his performance and his own evaluation mixed with time restriction. Hinata is aware that when you put all the important bits regarding volleyball into stats he would have speed, stamina and quick attack on S but everything else is D or C at best. his POV was that if his S is rendered useless there is no practical use for keeping him on the court. Narita or enoshita with much better overall stats would have every right to take his spot as regular since they are better at receiving and blocking and had more accurate serve (as they are 2nd years and have more experience)... essentially only thing that at that time was giving him the right to take a spot as regular WAS his super quick and if he does not have that he is useless. If he had infinite amount of time to train all the other things he would maybe do it but it would take years to be a proper consistent receiver and for hinata it would take years before he can do proper serve worth any praise. there is no way for hinata to get on kageyama's level of serving or noya's level of receiving in that short time. his only hope (from his POV) was to improve one thing he is good at and level it up to the point where he can still use it and be usefull on the court

Cayseron

I'm super excited to see you all watch this. Some of my favorite soundtracks and moments come from the later part of this season.

Angelic Nexus

You can't read. I said "big problem." I'm assuming you also lack the ability to use reading comprehension. Of course what Hinata did was wrong. My statement, the one you couldn't read correctly, was to address the overreaction I felt was made. Then I explained why I felt it was an overreaction, then you came along with you miniscule grasp of reading English and put words in my mouth. Look up the definition to the word "exactly" before you use it again.

Mten10th

That's exactly what you said, lol. You said you didn't understand why everybody had an issue with Hinata's actions, and tried to justify it by saying that his team never took the time to train him. Also, they invited someone worse than Hinata, like that somehow makes it ok for him to invite himself to someone else's event? Again, weird, but it takes all kinds lol.

Erik Hudson

Did I say that anywhere, or can you just not read? Too many illiterate people with internet access these days.

Mten10th

haha, what facts? His team failing to properly train him gives him license to just do whatever he wants? Weird view point, but I guess that's just how you were raised

Erik Hudson

Facts are facts. If you can't understand them, that's a you problem.

Mten10th

His team trying to make him better is irrelevant. If I'm driving down the road and see a family having a BBQ, I cant just pull in the drive way and go grab a plate without being invited. Even if they invited some other guy who seems far less experienced at eating BBQ. It wasn't Karasuno that picked who got to go, it was the people that were hosting the camp. They cant just say "hey, were sending this other guy that you didn't invite"

Erik Hudson

Daichi MVP, 100%

Erik Hudson

Regardless of what you say, the FACT is nobody tried to help Hinata, and Ukai admitted it. Funny how people keep ignoring that Ukai admitted that they did Hinata a disservice. The creator of the show wrote Ukai saying that they pigeon holded Hinata into being a purely offensive weapon for the team. Hinata is the 1st year with minimal experience and the TEAM decided to use him that way. Everytime Hinata has tried to improve, it was on his own. How is he supposed to have the experience to know exactly how to improve. He went to coach Ukai at the end of season 2 episode 5 and asked, "How am I supposed to practice?" Ukai took Hinata to his grandfather's, and the only training he received was to be a better spiker. Those are FACTS, so don't try and make it seem as if Hinata is ignoring advice and training, because they never realistically tried to help him improve.

Mten10th

Hinata is just below average on everything. Minus his quick and agile body. He has lots of improvement to do, boy didn’t start playing the game until his first year in karasuno

Kevin Campos

You do realize that volleyball is a club activity and people have to actually show an interest to learn and work on their own time to improve their skills, right? Like how Tsukki approached Ukai to ask him how to block. Even though Ukai knew that Tsukki wasn't giving his 100% before that, he never said anything to Tsukki because untimately people have to volunteer for the club and show an interest in improving their skills. But until they take the first step he can't do anything. Case in point, he was really happy when Tsukki approached him and told him how he could improve. Another case in point was when Hinata went to him and asked him how he should improve his spiking. Ukai went out of his way to ask his GrandPa for help. Similar to how no one could force Tsukki to show an interest to improve, no one can force Hinata to show an interest in things other than spiking. Also, you have to find and perfect your own style through trial, error and practice. And most people start out by watching and observing. Diachi did this when he learnt to receive. Kageyama also studied Oikawa to understand how to improve his serving and blocking. Hinata even when he gets subbed out after getting rotated to the back, never showed an interest in anything except chasing after the ball. Finally, you spoke about Hyakuzawa and how he has less experience than Hinata. That doesn't really matter because even with that little experience, he kept his team in the game against the prefecture champions, Karasuno by himself. Hinata, on the other hand, is entirely dependent on Kageyama at this point.

Preetam Ozarde

The team i definitely sacrificed Hinata's development. Coach Ukai even said it himself. Hinata was being used for the freak quick and it stopped being effective, so why wouldn't he try to improve the thing the team was solely using him for? Since early in season 1, before the team was actually completely formed, nobody took the opportunity to help Hinata improve his fundamentals. Hinata is a 1st year given the responsibilities of a starter and he only had 1 official game under his belt before getting into high school. Kageyama telling Hinata that his will was not needed for the quick so improve his fundamentals is not help, it's Kageyama being arrogant. We can make up "what if" scenarios all day, but the fact of the matter is that NOBODY actively tried to help Hinata improve. It takes time to develop those fundamentals, and a few episodes in season one doesn't absolve the team for neglecting Hinata's improvement.

Mten10th

He never had anyone to practice with. How can he practice receiving by himself? He never had anyone to teach him the game, and spiking was the one thing he could effectively practice on his own. People love to act as if Hinata had the same opportunities as everyone else and just decided to say "Nope, I only care about spiking."

Mten10th

If you read my entire comment, you will see that I said nobody tried to help him since early season 1. Kageyama being kind of a jerk and wanting Hinata to not use his will does not equal trying to help Hinata improve. Once the team was formed, everybody was more than content keeping Hinata as the teams weapon, regardless of whether or not it was the best thing for Hinata.

Mten10th

You forgot Nishinoya went back to the team to teach him how to receive in s1 and Kageyama asked him to improve his receives and serves in s2 but Hinata would rather work on his spikes.

Jen Li

Hinata knows this pretty much that without Kageyama, he'll be benched. At least currently. Suga and any other setter, with the exception of Atsumu, could not make full use of his extremely fast reflex. His receives and serves are subpar. Even his blocking. His strength lies in his fast spiking ability, which requires extremely skilled setter. He doesn't have the strength to break through blocks like ushijima and asahi. Of course he can score with other setters around, but so do other players. And with no one sending a super quick toss or the toss that stops, his spikes have the same chance of getting through as other players. That's why he needed to learn other skills, to prove that he can stand on his own. Also, Hyakuzawa might not be skillful yet, but he is tall and strong. He can smash the ball harder than hinata, his arms are longer which means his reach is higher and wider, so he can block more easily than hinata, and save balls which might be out of reach for hinata.

Jen Li

just to clarify: the training camp with tsukki and hinata is only for first years in high school and some 3rd years in middle school(one year below 1st years in high school) so that is why there are some non first years

Marvin Varnhorn

It's unfair to say that the team was only using Hinata and sacrificed his development. Didn't Kageyama asked him to work on his receives and serves in season 2 but instead Hinata wanted to work on hitting freak quicks with his eyes open? They wanted him to improve his other skills aside from the quick. Grandpa Ukai didn't need to "knock some sense" into Coach Ukai to allow Hinata to improve. Coach Ukai went to Grandpa Ukai precisely because he wanted Hinata to learn what he wanted. Grandpa just kicked younger Ukai's ass for not knowing what and how to teach Hinata. Yes Oikawa had to knock some sense to Kageyama, but Kageyama also had to train a lot to accommodate Hinata and missed the chance to train with Noya. Kageyama wished he could've practiced synching with Noya, as he said so to Shimizu in s3, but he couldn't because he's busy training to give Hinata the toss that he wanted. So he sacrificed for Hinata too. If Hinata asked the team that he wanted to learn how to receive, or serve, no one would deny him. All he had to do was ask Daichi or Noya and they would teach him. Even in the first season, Noya agreed to come back because Hinata asked him to teach him how to receive. Hinata clearly joined the training camp because of his fear of missing out and being left behind. He himself said that he wanted to join the training camp where the strong gathered (and inadvertently implying that the remaining Karasuno team members are not strong). Even on the first day, he only felt compelled to join the practice when they started calling out about spiking. Learning other skill was not initially in his mind. He had to think really hard when Ushijima asked him what he's doing. And that's when he changed his perspective. The use of the Shiratorizawa training camp is not to teach Hinata new skill but give him new outlook. Like what Washijo sensei said, the totally different environment will give them valuable stimuli. The things that Hinata never took the time to think about while he was in Karasuno, he had the time to ponder when he was a ballboy at Shiraratorizawa. When Coach Ukai was thinking that having Hinata join the practice is restricting him, it's because Karasuno was not the environment Hinata needed to get his realisations. Not because they are not willing to teach him what other skills he wanted to learn.

Jen Li

Also love the philosophy, guys. More of that please! The sport is just the vehicle for looking at the bigger things in life.

Coco

I like this part of the season because it highlights how realistic the drama is. Just because Hinata is the main character of the story it would not make sense for him to be excused for sneaking in. Being forced to be a ball boy as punishment makes sense.

A. Saffari

I thought Takeda's comment was most impactful for Hinata "To climb a ladder, you must start at the bottom". Hinata didn't start at the bottom, he said himself that every time he practiced since he started he's been spiking the ball. So he hasn't practiced the basics almost at all, he just jumps and smacks the ball cause that feels good, and it's been enough because he's quick and athletic. But now that he's on a national level, jumping and smacking the ball isn't good enough. He needs to polish his basics, start from the bottom of the ladder, in order to be a better overall player Hinata's journey has been very inspiring, didn't expect this from a sport anime but he makes me emotional

Stef

Oh yeah! Now I realized he beat the team that rejected him. Good for Kageyama!

Lapisstories

Oh my bad I thought about all this wrong I apologize thanks for the clarification I was just thinking about it from a different point of view and tbh your explanation is better than mine lol 😅

Maya Coleman

coach ukai message was directed to hinata. "do not underestimate what it means to be a ball boy". there is no third party involved in that statement, it is not about how other people see ballboy, it is about skills required to be a proper ballboy. Ukai is telling hinata that even though he is just a ball boy he needs to see it through and learn from his situation cause there is lot to learn from being ballboy.

Cayseron

i think tsukki is a biased pick cause considering all the info we have, shiratorizawa is not a school that often wins the nationals which means once they go pass the miyagi prefecture they face teams that can handle ushiwaka and make shiratorizawa lose. Reason i say this is cause we saw match from karasuno POV so ofc every point tsukki scored was HUGE, but for people scouting it is just another point on the board. They dont see inside tsukki's head the way viewers do, and objectively blockers should be able to block through whole match. fact that tsukki injured his hand twice out of which first injury was his own fault (lack of conviction / fear) it shows that he lacks mentality to fight on world level

Cayseron

i disagree. their "friendship" is heavily based on competition. they race to see who will get first to gym or who will go to bathe first... they are all about one-upping each other and that rivarly is the core of their friendship and what helps them grow stronger and keep moving forward. if kageyama suddenly change this dinamic once he got invited to all-japan training camp that would be same as taking pity on hinata, claiming victory etc. it would be proclamation that hinata is not good enough to make kageyama any better and that he must look elsewhere in hopes to improve. By saying "i am going ahead" he keeps the dinamic going, hinata and kageyama are used to racing and running next to each other trying to overtake the other. "i am going ahead" is like saying "i am taking the lead, catch up" it is very much in the spirit of their friendship cause whole friendship is based on them running side by side and trying to get ahead

Cayseron

I think it's fair to say that this show ain't just about volleyball - it's about so much more.

Coco

Taking out two players would have been a detriment to the morale of the entire team during a stressful moment. Hinata has some practice with Suga so he wouldn't be a pure detriment but he also wasn't treated as an asset during that period. Any point he scored was treated as lucky and Hinata's desperation to play instead of real hard-won skill. Having two nervous subs on the board would have been bad for the overall team that's the only reason he wasn't subbed out because the team literally didn't have a better option. The show even tells you have very bluntly, Hinata himself often remarks that without Kageyama he would not be on the court.

DandyZombie

Damn, glad someone else feels the same way. Everyone's always overestimating Kageyama and downplaying Hinata's actual skills without regard to their backgrounds. Kageyama is still a genius for sure but he was also trained formally from a very young age. Compared to Hinata who only learned about volleyball in middle school and no one taught him anything except for spiking.

Hasy Arco

the miya crumbs are KILLING MEEEE, oh and the cover was angelic ange! i'm so excited for future episodes

beannie

Hinata has been used by the team as a weapon with no priority to his improvement. The one time Hinata wanted to make improvements on the thing they were using him for, it took Grandpa Ukai and Oikawa to knock sense into Ukai and Kageyama to allow him to do so, and we're supposed to be worried about Hinata hurting the team now? He and the team sacrificed his development for the sake of the team, and they wouldn't be anywhere near nationals without Hinata.

Mten10th

the budget of animation for s4 is mainly used for that moment bro

bebe

Anybody saying or agreeing with Hinata not being useful without Kageyama has definitely not being paying attention to the anime.

Mten10th

Your assessment of Hinata's overall ability is false. If Hinata was unable to do basic attacks without Kageyama, please explain why he was kept in the game against Shiritorizawa when Kageyama exited due to fatigue. Please also explain how Hinata was able to have a positive impact during that same time.

Mten10th

I don't see why, as viewers of a fictional product, people would have such a big problem with what Hinata did. Nobody on his team has taken an interest in actually trying to help him improve his fundamentals since early season 1. Also, the training camp is to help improve the skills of the prefecture as a whole, so why exclude a player like Hinata when you include Hyakuzawa who has even less experience than hinata? Ukai himself admitted that the team neglected to adequately help Hinata improve.

Mten10th

Love the cover!! Also your banter about who should win mvp for the first ep was so funny. I'm really loving your reactions and discussions to one of my favorite shows! I love Suga he really is so sweet and caring but he is totally a troll😂 we see little glimpses of it through out the first 3 seasons mainly when he's interacting with Daichi and Asahi, but it goes up a notch during season 4 and I love it. In the manga volume, where ep1 s4 takes place, is a bonus story where Karasuno high school has a sports festival and it's so stupidly hilarious, i cried laughing, Suga especially cracked me up there😂 Manga trivia for today, Daichi actually shrank a little, I'm not exactly sure how much, but he was a little salty about it and "argued" with Shimizu that she pressed down harder than usual when she measured him, which she denied multiple times😆 It's little things like this that I really appreciate, because it shows that Daichi is in fact still a 18 year old high schooler despite him being so mature for his age.

Momo

Daichi as MVP isn't a stretch! Not only did he round up the team and keep them together, but he also encouraged both Kageyama and Tsukki to go to their camps, which they might have otherwise felt bad about if the captain didn't speak up.

Kolton Nay

First of all, the cover for s4 did not disappoint at all!! I love this OP and Ange did it complete justice! ^_^ Also, I reallu like all the discussions for these episodes. The ball boy arc is my favorite arc just because the lessons are so applicable to real life and Hinata's growth is so fascinating here! I also don't see Coach Washijo as a bad guy here, he's very stern but always gives helpful advice. I was going to say I'm excited for the next few eps but honestly I think I'm just going to be giddy for every drop of reactions for s4 hehe, I love this season so much :D

# vivi

honestly I didn't even notice haha, even though I knew it was coming

Martina

When i first watched this season I thought i did something wrong, i was so confused about the animation changes. I'm with Carlie, it was pretty jarring for me, but i got over it pretty quick.

Kolton Nay

Washijo is completely right in his first comment. Without Kags, Hinata can just learnt how to do basic attacks and quicks, he is lucky if he even gets the ball across when serving, his receiving is non existant besides getting hit in the face, and besides some one offs miracle blocks he can barely block. Without his freak quick, Hinata right now as an overall volleyball player is not even a starter. Also, if Hinata was let to join in the camp. He would have just continued practicing spiking, which would not have been any use to him (he is already big enough of a glass cannon). This is the key point, he needed something to force him to change his perspective and open his eyes that volleyball is not just about spiking. Honestly, Washijo is not really that hard to read. He had a dream to make it in the volleyball world as a small player, but failed. Ever since then, his concept of tall and strong has worked wonderfully (shiratorizawa was pretty much unbeaten in the prefecture). Hinata obviously sparked that long lost hope (i HIGHLY recommend going back to the moment karasuno won in season 3 and take a look at Washijo's expression). But Washijo is obv not going to completely change his entire world view this easily, you can't change 40 years of experience overnight like that. But it's obvious that he sees potential in Hinata, but also knows how rough it is for short players, so he will give him some needed tough love (at the end of season 3, Washijo says "the higher his goals are, the more treacherous his path will be", he knows damn well what Hinata needs to grow, that's why he "forced" Hinata to stay a ballboy). Also, as said in season 3, Washijo yells at people more because he counts on them the most.

Khoa Tran

maybe it will play in Australian cinemas!

Martina

I think for Tsukki, he just hadn't given it all uptil that moment. he's still very talented (and tall lol).

Martina

nahh I still think he didn't have to rub it in in that moment when it was obvious that Hinata was having a hard time about not being invited. he could have worded it better. but it's okay, it's in line with Kageyama's character and the rivalry they've got going on.

Martina

Washijo is a hard read. But the one thing he's shown throughout the show is that he only yells at the players he thinks have potential. In season 3 he kept yelling at Goshiki because they were counting on him the most as a 1st year. He doesn't ever yell the other Shiratorizawa ball boys in these episodes (I'm guessing because they aren't great). The way I take it is that he is doing the same for Hinata

EyePStanding

WAIT, THE COACH FROM SHIRATORIZAWA IS FRIEZA, MY MIND JUST GOT BLOWN.

Cactuar Nick

Its really funny watching episode three and your commentary about how all the small stuff adds up and how the best of the best truly do all the little things to keep themselves in top shape, and yet you guys never really put that together with what our deer teacher said about "taking the proper steps" these are those steps he was insinuating to!

DandyZombie

Names of the first years that we've seen so far. You got Kindaichi right. The other one from Seijou is Kunimi. Him and Kindaichi both went to middle school with Kageyama, Iwaizumi and Oikawa. Yahaba is actually a 2nd year so he can't be there. The blonde guy from Date Tech is Koganegawa, most people just call him Kogane for short. Goshiki from Shiratorizawa, and the 2 meter guy from that no name school Karasuno versed in season 2. Also extra fun fact the coach that said he recommended Hinata is actually the coach from Johzenji, that crazy team with all the party kids from the 2nd season. The yellow team that gave their female manager a backstory.

Danny

So on episode two I honestly believe all three of the lectures are actually the same lecture. The teacher said that there is a proper way to do things, and appropriate steps to take but he's not saying Hinata's not allowed to take big leaps but Hinata is quite literally trying to skip the fundamentals that Kageyama and Tsukki have already worked on. He can't just force himself into rewards for achievements he hasn't earned, just like you can't build a house without laying out a base. Ukai said not to underestimate a ball boys position which hints that those proper steps the teacher told him to take are hidden in this role. He can use this to take those steps. And Daichi's saying you have to take others into account also goes in line with not trampling over the proper way to progress. Everyone is actually saying the same thing but from three different perspectives.

DandyZombie

Bruh, Hinata and his little toothbrush kills me every time - so cute and innocent. I do agree with Carlie that Daichi is a strong contender for MVP for the first episode. Mostly for the way he without skipping a beat supported Kageyama and Tsukki going to their camps, that way taking away any doubt they might had about leaving their team so close to the nationals. A truly great captain and leader.

Ginta Liepiņa

this is general volleyball basics but it is so powerful when you actually realize what you need to do while receiving. Go back and watch season 3 episode 6, we see how Daichi was learning, it's same thing what hinata is realizing/practicing now.

Girish

lol the episode ending cliffhangers are extremely evil this season gotta say. love it tho

Russ

I have seen this show an unhealthy amount of times and this is the first time I noticed that the ball hit Hinata in the stones so hard, it moved his hips back 🤣🤣🤣

Smash Bran'Discootch

Am I the only one who likes your reactions to Haikyuu more than the show itself?! Your discussions are amazing XD. I like how you caught on the three different lessons Hinata received and how Hinata is learning from this Ball Boy opportunity. If you noticed, two other Ball Boys were with Hinata, and they were unknown Shiratorizawa 1st years. It seems that coach Washijou likes to use the Ball Boy sessions for newbies who lack the fundamentals and basic understanding of the game :)

Aizensalami

lol Hinata infiltrating the camp made me cringe soooo hard when I first read that chapter lol It really was a dumb thing to do but I do love that he's a go getter.

DandyZombie

Given that you guys usually watch 3 episodes at a time, could you try making an exception and watching 4 episodes in 1 session for eps 13-16? I think you’d get a lot out of watching them together. (especially 15 & 16) Plus it would leave 9 episodes episodes left for 3 sessions of 3 eps each

Virgil Hawkins

Watching you two not realize the first scene in Episode 1 was a repeat of last time had me dying, waiting for the realization. "We're stupid."

Cactuar Nick

The feb release date is for Japanese theatres. It will take at least a few more months (probably more than 3) for it to release digitally for their reaction.

Virgil Hawkins

this fact tho

bebe

If there is a set date for the movie in February, you guys HAVE to make a push through Season 4 and make it on time!~ There's no way I can enjoy that movie and then not be able to come see your guys reaction to it. Man I wish I could see your guys reaction to the trailer but that would be spoiler territory so AVOID IT AT ALL COSTS. Hype for more Season 4!

Cactuar Nick

Fun Fact: In Season 3, During the match Washijo Sensei Always yelled the most at Goshiki and it was pointed out that he was more yelled at than anyone else because he has more expectations from him than anyone else and I think he does the same with Hinata.

Zabuza Momochi

The second years there werre from middle school of Shiratorizawa. Could be a privilege as they were hosting the camp.

Lapisstories

I’m up to date with the manga, ofc the manga is better but honestly I don’t mind the anime, it’s not a big studio so they had a few badly animated episodes but I really loved it, Carlie and Ange will definitely love it as well. Plus the movie is supposed to come out this year as well so good times

mohamed rafee

the anime is'nt that good tbh. Manga is alot better

souma shou

you're right

souma shou

I'm with Carlie, Daichi was the perfect captain in Ep 1. Obvious MVP :P

FTN Chicken

Leeeets geeeet into it!

Maximilian Sauer

I actually thought kageyama got selected for the shiratorizawa match. It was the only one that was broadcasted on networks reaching the national stage and thats how the scouting is reported--not in person. It also makes sense narratively too since the school that he beat to get the invitation is the same school that rejected him, showing his growth as a player. Tsukki and noya were absolutely our most important players in that one but kags' overall value to the team is second to none. Its difficult to see because his role as a support player isn't as flashy as a spiker or a blocker. But his impact as a facilitator of the offense is - albeit very differently - Ushijima-like.

wicecakes

I feel you on the cringe, but I totally get it. Sometimes I've been given opportunities simply by showing up and demonstrating how much I wanted it. To hinata, volleyball is life. This is kinda like back in season 2. Hinata is striving to be better, not just to become a better asset to his current team but to any future team he'll be on.

Smash Bran'Discootch

Sakusa Kiyoomi, the guy in the green track jacket Kageyama met at the entrance to the youth camp, he's from Itachiyama, the team that beat Bokuto's team in straight sets in the Tokyo prefectural finals. P.S. Correct me if Im wrong but the one guy who was in third year at Tsukishima's training camp is actually younger than everyone else, he's from middle school compared to the others who are all first years in high school.

Prateek Sridhar

btw the third year in tsukishima's training camp is actually a junior high kid so he's not even in high school 💀. I think that's what got you both confused. shiratorizawa training camp is an all first year training camp. the all japan is not

souma shou

True! Makes me feel a lot better about that scene

Carlie & Ange

Kageyama’s camp is indeed for 1st years and 2nd years. It was a mistranslation when it said that Sakusa was the only 2nd year there. What it should’ve said was that Sakusa is the only 2nd year of the top 3 spikers in Japan.

Virgil Hawkins

It's important to note that my love for Hinata hindered my realization that Hinata lacks that basic fundamentals of Volleyball (recieving, serving, etc). So far we as an audience have seen Hinata's high jumps, speed and hard-work/determination/ love for volleyball being his strength. Once I realized my baby bird lacked the fundamentals it made me even more excited to see his growth! Also, if you remember Ushijima saying "I hate confidence that lacks basis" referring to Hinata. Ushijima is absolutely right in his perception of HInata so far because at the end of the day Hinata boldly declared war on Ushijima (who has more experience and all around skill set compared to Hinata) without having much to back up his statement (yet...). Ball boy Hinata is my favorite Hinata (you will understand why when you finish season 4) 💜 Anyways I could go on and on about Hinata and how much of a realistically amazing written MC he is but I will let you guys experience it yourself! Hinata is my #1 favorite character with season 4 being my favorite season of Haikyuu! I have no doubt you guys will love season 4! MVP for ep1 has to be Hinata!!! His impact on the episode is unavoidable 😂

Bibi

Ange talking about how he's losing weight while I eat corndogs. lol

Eric

I can’t wait for you guys to finish haikyuu, so that u guys can react to blue lock🤣, esp knowing ange is a football fan

mohamed rafee

I think you guys are confused on what coach ukai was trying to say but I think he was basically saying to hinata don't let people underestimate what ball boys can do and that he should use this opportunity to practice and find what he needs to practice while he is there at the camp coach ukai was basically encouraging him to not let people get to him and to prove them wrong so that is what I got from that

Maya Coleman

RIP home. 😞

Leonardo Postacchini

You’re in luck!

Leah

lmao! all fixed 🤣

Carlie & Ange

No hxh 😕?

Jesus Rocha

Ukai was more saying that in order for the team to win they didn't try to shore up Hinata's very obvious short comings and in that way he thinks that he was doing the same thing as Washijo because that coach would do the same and just ignore players that didn't met his height requirements

J-or-Dan

Loved the reactions. Waiting for episode 3 to get fixed

JM

Starting season 4 off strong with an 8 minute long realization LOL Hinata is at an A for spiking, but the rest of his skills like blocking, passing, receiving, serving etc are still at a D or C level. The team needed him to be a great spiker, so that's what he's been focused on, but he's reached the point where that's not enough to compete with players who are much more complete. Also as a heads up, the setter is a 3rd year in Shiratorizawa's Junior High, so he's being brought up early for evaluation and to get experience.

Jake Thompson

That OP cover was EPIC! Ange delivers

Svandi

It is said in season 1 that both Noya and Kageyama are geniuses. He didn't rise to the occasion, he is that good at receiving however Tsukki I agree just rose to the occasion.

O5

I love Hinata so much, he is so inspiring to me, and he inspires his mates like Kageyama Tsukki and Asahi to always push forward, when opportunity is not givin to him he creates his own opportunities, it takes a certain amount of boldness craziness and passion for what he desires. Im so proud of Hinata by the end of the manga for what he becomes.

Sabrina

ep 1 mvp is washijo sensei considering you're counting hinata out

souma shou

Noya rised to the ocasion and received a lot of Ushiwaka's impossible spikes, Tsukishima rised to the ocasion and controled the shit out of Ushiwaka, Kageyama was just on a different level this entire time. I love Tsukishima and Nishinoya, but to me they look like "highschool talents", and Kageyama looks like an actual future olympian.

Luís

This is basically what Kageyama was trying to tell Hinata back in S2. That if he really wants to fight on his own, he needs to work on his fundamentals of blocking, receiving, serving etc. Even after being able to hit the falling toss, he is still essentially dependent on Kageyama because no other setter in the prefecture can do that toss. As for no one teaching him the fundamentals I think it's more Hinata's fault than anything else. Until now, he was interested in nothing else but spiking. We have seen that people have their own styles for receiving which they need to find and perfect through trial, error and practice. Like Diachi used to do by trying to follow the ball (as shown S3 flashback) or how Kageyama learnt serving and blocking by constantly watching Oikawa and then practicing on his own time. Even Tsukki asked help from coach to understand how to block better and then had to observe Kuro and practice it. I mean until now Hinata didn't even realise that the court is full of information and there is still things to be learnt even when he's on the sideline. The upside of Hinata having such good reflexes and unique abilities is that he was able to get into the starting team right away. But everyone else needed to earn their way on to the team after mastering the fundamentals. That is why Takeda's words about him needing to start from the bottom and not trying to skip any steps is so important for him.

Preetam Ozarde

RIP Guys. Due to being too loud while cheering, Carlie & Ange were evicted from their house before they could hyperlink Episode 3. Let's hold a moment of silence for them. 😔

iJonShuffle

lol the picking for mvp for ep 1 tho. carlie trying hard ahaha

bebe

Hey Ange, Kageyama was not rubbing in Hinata’s face, he was provocative so that Hinata gets better. You can see the way he says it he is in a way inviting Hinata to catch up. He is “going ahead”, that implies He trust Hinata would arrive too.

Leonardo Postacchini

There is no link for episode 3 guys

Maya Coleman

thought only on my side

Hyth

there's no link to be working bro lol

bebe

is ep3 working?

Hyth

RIP EP 3 indeed lmao

bebe

RIP Ep 3

Deathonater5

Ep 3 is not a link

souma shou

ballboy hinata is the moment that hinata needs to soar higher. He didnt have a coach to teach him basics like serves and receives in the middle school. then he came to karasuno where became a duo with kageyama so his basics were not his focus so now this is where hinata has to come back to learn to be able to fly higher. Ballboy hinata is cringe but a much needed period for him. Ballboy hinata will always be my favourite version of hinata shoyo of all time. This ballboy version of his is what will make who hinata is at the end of the story.

bebe

THREE FULL EPISODES! YAAAAS! Oh man I love this little mini arc.

Smash Bran'Discootch

Thank you for this update! Also, link for the 3rd episode is absent - please add (thanks!)

May M.

getting cringe from hinata in this season is a canonical event we all have to go through🧘 I’m so excited for these haha

beannie

Just in time for my workday. Love these reactions 🧡🖤

Riley

The link for ep3 is missing.

Leonardo Postacchini

Yeaaahhhhh!!! I'm so happy you had great holidays with family and loved ones, but damn I'm happy you're back! I really really miss this! Can't wait to watch it tonight! 💜

Charlotte PhD.

Yayyy you guys are the best!!

Maya Coleman

YAY I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS. BALLBOY HINATA FTW

bebe

EP 3 is not a link y’all 😊

omar gelle

Just as I started breakfast?! THANK YOU GUYS!!! was waiting for haikyuu

LisanAlGareeb


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