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I am rewatching this reaction to the series, yet i rewatched the anime at most 8 times i think. And each time that i rewatched this scene, I came to truly understand both Hinata and Kageyama opinions. The first time I watched this scene, I didnt really get it, but I just felt the need to be on Hinata’s side, because he is my favorite character. Now time passed, I STILL think I reside with Hinata, but I also understand Kageyama’s argument to Shoyo’s request. I saw a comment on how someone was upset and frustrated with Carlie. Don’t be, it’s her first time watching the series, it is just how she feels. I love love love Hinata’s development in s2 and s4. It is just a blessing for me cause hes my top character and I was so happy during s4 when he encouraged Kageyama about being King.
astral_
2024-07-29 07:41:51 +0000 UTCI know it’s way past the time when this reaction is out but still tryin to spit out some words about the ending scene. Kageyama holds so much of his pride in volleyball and Takeda Sensei even mentioned in S1 during Seijoh’s fight when he got switched out with Suga. The fight between Kageyama and Hinata is inevitable because both of them need to see the picture from the opposite perspective. I don’t think there is a right or wrong opinion regarding to the whole plot, but at least, no one should call either of them selfish! And I’m actually very upset and frustrated with what Carlie said at the end because you foreshadowed this since first episode (I’m being really impressed by then)and I truly thought you would have something fresh and different from others when it turns into this scene. As a viewer watching you guys reacting to Haikyuu is very pleasing and I’m very grateful to both of you who always contribute in-depth thoughts about each episode. Will still keep watching the series and hope you guys have fun too.
7 7
2024-06-12 21:16:53 +0000 UTCYes, it's completely Kageyama being egocentric and selfish when he wants Hinata to improve his fundamentals so that he can fight on his own. Also it's his fault that he isn't able to come to come up with the idea of floating toss which hasn't existed yet. If you didn't get it that was sarcasm.
Preetam Ozarde
2023-12-12 08:36:48 +0000 UTCBruh please tell me exactly how I was proven wrong? In fact, I was proven right. Kageyama told Hinata to get better at hitting normal spikes and improve his fundamentals. Which are both things he had to do in the coming episodes and seasons.
Preetam Ozarde
2023-12-12 08:33:35 +0000 UTCFirst of all, NO, Kageyama is not preventing anyone to be better than himself so that he could stay as the best. I can’t believe after watching all of season 1 something like this would even be a thought from a viewer. If he is that kind of person, he would never have been mad at Hinata back in season 1 just because Hinata clearly got great physical abilities but none solid techniques. Kageyama wouldn’t have told Hinata to become strong after that junior high match. It’s RIDICULOUS even having this kind of opinion regarding Kageyama. Second of all, I have never view the arguement between Hinata and Kageyama a matter of right or wrong but more so like what Coach Nekomata has mentioned in the episode, a matter of being stable or evolving. Kageyama prefers to keep it stable as the spring tournament is right around the corner which is less than a month away. On the other hand, Hinata is seeking evolution in order to break through current situation. This arguement between the two happened simply because the two of them see things from different POV and are both understandable and reasonable. That fight might be a bit aggressive but I think it’s pretty essential to both of them, plus they are teenage boys at the end of the day and that fight could be a way of communication.
Mel
2023-11-27 13:22:20 +0000 UTCYou guys probably have the answer by now, but the reason why Kageyama is so heated in that exchange is because Hinata is willingly jeopardizing HIS career. If things go well, which nobody knows whether they will, then it's all fine, but to give up their signature weapon when they're the underdog to begin with is just asking to lose. And losing isn't what Kageyama has in mind. EDIT: Also, Kageyama and Hinata both aren't the type to care about their "opponents", whether they be on the opposite team or the same team. Kageyama's attitude has always been "I don't know who the enemy is and I don't care. All I have to do is play the best I can and win." They are both highly competitive but their competitiveness is entirely focused inwards.
V D
2023-10-28 16:10:54 +0000 UTCkageyama is setup to be a genius and he himself cant see how is it possible to improve the freak quick considering what it actually goes into that quick. hinata not thinking about ball, not looking where to hit and only focusing on jumping and swinging is why he is so easy to read for kageyama. With his eyes open he focus on too much and keeps getting distracted, that results in him jumping slower, lower, his swing takes longer time cause he does not just swing when he feels is the best he tries to allign with the ball and he does not have skills and expertise to pull that off at the speed that ball goes. In order for hinata to hit kageyama had to slow the ball down which is what they were doing in season 1, mixing the super fast "freak quick" with normal quicks. That is not out of ignorance or superiority, that is simply due to fact that freak quick is implausible to pull of in the first place and only reason it was possible for these two is because kageyama's pinpointing skills are genius level and hinata was willing to blindly hit. what hinata was saying is that he basically refuse to do his part in what made that freak quick possible in the first place. That is why kageyama was so against wasting the time trying to pull out something imposible. Because in kageyama's eyes and objectively in everyone's eyes that quick should have been impossible from the very beginning and now that hinata refuse to do his part that was making it possible even kageyama thinks what hinata is trying to do is impossible. Instead kageyama thinks it is better for hinata to increase his skills in other aspects. To put it in simple terms hinata's freak quick is his special move and his strongest suit aka his 100% but his serving is at 20% at best, his recieve is even worse, his blocking at 70% (i am just throwing random numbers for example to make a point)... and pragmatically speaking this is not a bad idea but from hinata's POV the way he thinks, if his 100% is not enough then what is the point of increasing the lower stats by another percent or two... he is simply useless on the court if his best is not enough especially when he is supposed to be a decoy. what is the point of decoy on the court if he is not a decoy. This fight was brilliantly done because they both have valid reasons to feel the way they feel and they defend their perspectives because both of their perspectives are correct
Cayseron
2023-10-22 14:20:21 +0000 UTCNot my intention at all. This is not meant to attack Hinata at all, I love him; his hunger for growth is important to both himself and the team. I only write this in defense of what was being speculated about Kageyama. As I said, I don't think Hinata is in the wrong here, just differences in perspectives. Although why is being selfish a bad thing? They're all selfish in some ways, wanting to be better, and that's how they grow individually, and eventually as a team. Their wants to be better individually pushes and challenges each other in a healthy way, so I really don't think being selfish is bad at all here (as long as it's healthy.) All I'm saying is none of them are being actively malicious or trying to sabotage anyone. The point of this argument is Hinata wanting to not only be used for the quick attack, but gain control of it so he can fight midair by himself (he said so himself), which is great. Kageyama just doesn't think they'll be able to do it in time, (once again, he might or might not be correct, but that's how he sees it), hence the argument. They both have good points. It's taking a risk VS stability, and there's a time and place, as well as balance, for both.
Jub
2023-10-19 08:56:55 +0000 UTCReally sucks when people who have watched this anime in it's entirety try and make it seem as if Hinata has any selfish motives. He has already accepted that he's only being used because of the freak quick. He's also smart enough to see that doing things the same way, regardless of his blocking and receiving is they reason the lost, and will keep on losing. How much better could he realistically get in the short amount of time at blocking and receiving that would make him a better player than the other 2nd years without the freak quick? Hinata is not being insecure, he's being realistic.
Mten10th
2023-10-18 18:39:31 +0000 UTC🥹❤️
Carlie & Ange
2023-10-17 15:54:11 +0000 UTCOmg same! I can't wait for them to fall for Bokuto too, he's the best xDD
Meg
2023-10-17 13:10:07 +0000 UTCBokuto!!!!! I've been waiting for him to appear since the first ep. I love him so much 😁💜
Dr. Charlotte
2023-10-16 22:55:08 +0000 UTCThe fight with Hinata and Kageyama is a result of them both blaming themselves for losing to Seijoh. Kageyama thinks his set got read. He was too obvious and that's why Hinata got blocked. He thinks Hinata doesn't need to be better at hitting the Quick but instead Kageyama needs to be better at using the Quick and Hinata's (VERY limted) time is better spent practicing his other flaws (serving and receiving in particular). Hinata hates this view because he sees this as Kageyama saying that setting Hinata was a bad idea. Hinata thinks the Quick failed because he swung with his eyes closed. If he was a better spiker, he could have controlled the ball better and hit around the block. Kageyama doesn't think they have enough time to waste trying something that may not be possible isntead of working on something they know they need to improve.
Sharles Davis Kendy
2023-10-16 19:56:16 +0000 UTCTo have an idea what a champ Saeko is, Tokyo is about 190 miles from Miyagi. So she drove a good 2 hours JUST to help her little brother's Volleyball team. That's absolutely awesome.
Sharles Davis Kendy
2023-10-16 19:51:31 +0000 UTCThe team us set...there is no one else joing their club this year. When the third years graduate there hopefully will be some new first years joining
JAMES D'ALESSANDRO
2023-10-16 00:26:24 +0000 UTCGod your haikyuu reactions are so good😭
emma
2023-10-15 21:12:07 +0000 UTCyour discussion about greed here at the end has me really excited for whenever y’all watch blue lock!!
storm (kasey) !
2023-10-15 17:19:09 +0000 UTClol it happens to me too. but yea anyway, both needed to work it out and it will all work out anyway
bebe
2023-10-15 16:36:35 +0000 UTCSPOILER: I actually agree to a lot of what you're saying, mainly because Hinata will actually be able to pull it off and help the team win matches (since he's the MC). However, at this stage, from the eyes of the rest, it is an impossible thing to do, specially for a beginner who can't even handle the ball efficiently. Being greedy and taking risks in sports is a must if you want to become the best, but this step should be done by someone who's close to the best players, not by a beginner. From the other team members' point of view, Hinata is not ready to do this yet. It's literally a borderline impossible technique to master, and you don't have much time left. Just as I said, imagine a rookie basketball player who currently still needs to work on his basics, suddenly tries to convince his team that he wants to specialize a segment in the training to assist him to dunk like Michael Jordan. What will be the reaction of the other team members if they have only few weeks left for their dream tournament? Of course they will not like it. If this request came from someone who is already close to Michael Jordan's level, then it's understandable, but not from a rookie. Despite all that, Kageyama did listen to his request and Hinata failed to hit the ball. He can't adjust the toss. It has to be bullet fast and with a straight line, if he makes it slower or with a trajectory, it will no longer be a weirdo quick. I'm not trying to belittle Hinata, I'm just trying to prove that Kageyama was not wrong.
Aizensalami
2023-10-15 15:42:32 +0000 UTCMY LOVE BOKUTO IS FINALLY REVEALED!! ugh there is always one person on every team that you love
Sophie
2023-10-15 15:03:58 +0000 UTCi clicked enter by accident before finishing the sentence, still trying to get used using comments on patreon. my bad lol
baja
2023-10-15 14:47:25 +0000 UTCthat's what i added spolier at the top?
bebe
2023-10-15 14:30:42 +0000 UTCSPOILERS for S2, dont get angry, im just saying. the new toss is a bit slower. so its not the same as this one. thats why i said to hit that freak quick hinata needs to become like a god spiker kageyama is still a dick with anger issues. my point was that they were both right but one doesnt know how to speak and the other one is socially inept none of them know what the other one is saying. its funny to watch 14 year old trying to work together at the end of the day, the reason the new one worked was because, hinata learned approach( other attack pattern) and kageyama learned better ball control.
baja
2023-10-15 14:28:56 +0000 UTCI feel the need to defend Kags for a bit here. Kageyama is not the type of player to try and actively preventing someone from being better. He just wants to win really badly, and he'll do whatever he thinks is best to do that. Even when he was the "King" he didn't want the spotlight, that boy just is so in love with volleyball that all he wants to do is be on the court playing. If you remember their very first conversation about positions, Hinata is the one who loves the spotlight, which is why he wants to be the ace, it's the "cool" position. He struggles with being the decoy as well. On the other hand, Kageyama admits that setters don't get as much spotlight as the spiker, but setter TOUCHES the ball the most, and is the control center of the team, which is why he loves the position. The bad part is he goes about it in a way that is dictatorial and doesn't trust his teammates, but never because he wants the spotlight. He just wants to WIN and if Hinata will contribute to the team's win then he will toss to him. But this move (that he already TRIES with Hinata until they ran out of balls to play), he just doesn't think it's going to be ready in time, so he's very frustrated. He's actually very simple and honest that way, he says things as he sees it (might or might not be correct but that's how he truly sees things). When he says that Hinata is jeopardizing the team by trying something new with so little time for the Spring Tournament (and this is the last tournament for this current team and the 3rd years), he really sees it that way. And he actually has a really good point there as well to be fair. Also, Hinata DOES lack basic skills which are IMPORTANT, which is why he doesn't understand why Hinata doesn't focus on those things instead. (Volleyball players who watched this show also commented that they side with Kageyama on this point). Pay attention to their words; Hinata's are "...otherwise there's no point in having ME in the court.", "I want to be strong enough to fight by myself", etc. VS Kageyama's "Your selfishness is going to destroy the team's balance," "I'll toss to anyone essential to winning." If anything, it's Hinata's insecurity of not being good enough to be able to remain a regular without Kageyama, unlike Kageyama, whose genius more or less secure his spot, but he also knows that the team has a much better winning chance WITH Hinata on the team, so he wants really badly for him and Hinata to be able to pull off great, RELIABLE performances. However, Hinata is also not wrong in wanting to be better. His hunger is very important to him as a character and also to add that fire to the team. That's the beauty of it I think, like there's no right or wrong here. They both have fair points. They're a great duo who pushes each other to grow and be better. Just wait and see how they both grow, it's going to be rewarding. Another point is, they're not blaming each other. Kageyama thinks if HE sets better, they could win. Hinata thinks if HE gets better, they could win. It's almost like Asahi's and Noya's arc in that regard. And the point of this is THEY BOTH need to get better, which is also beautiful. One last point, Kageyama, Suga, and Coach Ukai are all setters. They're talking from a setter's point of view, which reiterates my point; NO ONE is being actively malicious on this show (maybe Oikawa for a teensy bit :P), they just see things from different points of view.
Jub
2023-10-15 13:47:52 +0000 UTCand given to our cmmts arguing about this already give them a obvious direction lol
bebe
2023-10-15 12:27:38 +0000 UTCPersonally this was my favorite episode and the next outside of main match of the season 2. Yachi would be my MVP for staying for post practice, her instincts during the practice games that something was off between the duo and for calling for Tanaka to break up the fight. It was terrifying!
Lapisstories
2023-10-15 10:52:30 +0000 UTCI mean it's kinda obvious given the direction of these two episodes so not really a spoiler xD
Meg
2023-10-15 10:49:38 +0000 UTCit was the 'massive change in karasuno' but yea it doesnt matter anyway lol
bebe
2023-10-15 08:48:09 +0000 UTCDont worry carlie and angie, you will know when you watch the future episodes anyway and after season 2, please talk about who is the correct one in this issue. Did hinata wanting to improve is wrong or did kageyama not wanting to try new things and wanting to stabilize what they want is correct? Please discuss about this after you have watched this whole season because i want to know if your opinions change or not.
bebe
2023-10-15 08:46:49 +0000 UTCthe fact that he just wanted to point how hinata is in the wrong and not even changing the way of tossing abit to make it work. SPOILER So if hinata didnt have this greed right now, do u think they would have won seijoh and shiraotrizawa what they have at season 1 , i think so not, sometimes taking the risk is better than you think. The weakest in the camp? that's not on hinata. Everyone in the team is lacking anyway. its not just hinata, hinata knew that he needs to do sth at least while others? they were content with what they have until that incident with asahi and hinata that they were told to their face that they need to improve too. Dont make this about hinata is being greedy. It's how the whole team even the coach was so scared to change and want eveything to be stable. But that aint gonna make them win anyway. they cant even win the teams at the practice with what they have , they should have at least known they stand no chance against at oikawa and ushijima with what they have.
bebe
2023-10-15 08:43:17 +0000 UTCNot sure how that counts as a spoiler since I didn't mention anything specific :) They've already worked out this season will show some character development arcs, Ange mentioned it in a previous reaction
Meg
2023-10-15 08:42:06 +0000 UTCthats kinda spoiler, keep the suspense to urself please let them enjoy it on their own
bebe
2023-10-15 08:33:08 +0000 UTCSPOILERS anyway baja, you can tell me how that quick is impossible like you said, to get a spike, both needs to work, hinata was willing to do while kageyama? he is the cocky one that the decision he made that this aint going to work is the only correct one and hinata is in the wrong. AND this proved to be WRONG in the coming episodes. You can defend kageyama but in the end kageyama getting talked though by oikawa how he is not giving hinata the toss that he wants and he had to change does he not. SO our discussion is already ended way before u defend him on whatever rights u think. kageyama had to practice the toss and they were still able to use it in the tournaments so what's the bitching for? he should have at least try to change the way he toss for when hinata opens his eye and he fking didnt even care to do so making him still the egocentric king from middle school. And this is fiction and that is why hinata is willing to make it worth with him who speaks to him as if not needed for the win. If that happened in real life and esp if one player told me off like "u are not needed for the win and i will toss to who is essential for the win which is not you" i will be so offended with the way he talked and we would have seen his middle school tragedy played out again fr. I would not want to play with a teammate who talks as if someone else in the team is needed, who talked trash like that as if he is the only correct one and who does not even want to consider to the idea. that is not a team player.
bebe
2023-10-15 08:29:32 +0000 UTCnah he is the player who thinks his decisions are the only correct ones which had lead him to his middle school team leave him for good. he is still that person and doesnt care for other teammates in this ep whatever and however u want to defend him
bebe
2023-10-15 08:23:36 +0000 UTC(Pressed enter on my comment before I could finish it lol sorry) However I will say this, this season will bring up a massive change in Karasuno and also KageHina and I'm so stoked for you guys to witness it in the upcoming episodes. Just keep in mind that KageHina are rivals but they're also partners with the same goal. Their relationship is one of the BEST aspects of this show. I just know you guys are gonna love seeing the way it evolves xD
Meg
2023-10-15 08:20:14 +0000 UTCDouble episode reaction let's go!! I really liked your discussion at the end of episode 5 regarding KageHina's relationship. I'd like to add my two cents without spoiling anything. Kageyama and Hinata have is more than just normal competitive rivalry. An interesting play on their names (Kage means shadow and Hi means sun or day), for their freak quick attack for eg, you can say that even though Hinata is the one who spikes it, Kageyama is the one who sets it in such a way from behind Hinata's shadow. In that way, it makes more sense for Kageyama to get upset about Hinata wanting to take control of the quick attack, especially when Hinata could instead be improving in other areas that he lacks, like serve and receive, and especially blocking (since he's a MB). So to Carlie's point, I'd say it's less about Kageyama being selfish in this context, it's more about Hinata being tunnel-visioned on improving his spikes so that he can score more, as you know he's currently heavily influenced by Lev's comments about being the center ace as the one who scores the most points. This is also what caused him to subconsciously challenge Asahi's ball, even though it was tossed specifically for Asahi and Hinata as a MB should not have gone for it. This argument is a nice throwback to one of their first practice matches where KageHina were paired against Tsukishima, and Kageyma showed Hinata his potential as the ultimate decoy, which is (in Kageyama's opinion) just as good as being the 'ace'. So I don't think Kageyama said what he said cos he doesn't want Hinata to grow per se, but I would agree with what Carlie said, in that he is holding Hinata back regardless cos Hinata rn is hungry for growth. Given his lack of basic skills in Volleyball, the only way he can practice is if Kageyama tosses to him but since Kageyama will only toss their usual quicks, Hinata cannot practice what he wants to regardless. Even if Kageyama didn't mean to, he's stunting Hinata's growth, as shown by Hinata reaching out to Coach Ukai cos he doesn't know how he should practice anymore. I'd say Carlie is right about Kageyama holding Hinata back but wrong about the reasons why.
Meg
2023-10-15 08:14:40 +0000 UTCThey made a patreon post explaining this, i suggest you go to that for full context. They explained a lot.
Edward Michaelle
2023-10-15 06:36:51 +0000 UTCI think Carlie missed the mark by a bit with Kageyama. He was being greedy, but not because he want to "stay the best" he just believes that in their duo, he is the one in power and that Hinata is just a necessary tool for the freak quick. He said multiple times "Your will is not needed for that quick". At the moment, he doesn't fully realize the value of Hinata, "Oh he is someone who can move quick and i can make something work with that". He puts so much value in his sets, that if you notice, everytime Hinata brings up the point Kageyama's response is always "So you think my set is wrong?" and never "You should be better to hit my sets".
Edward Michaelle
2023-10-15 06:35:14 +0000 UTCDon't stress about the comment section for this episode, it's always a controversial or interesting part of the season for Haikyuu lovers. All reactors end up with fans in their comment section explaining both point of view's of this argument. It's a pretty interesting fight that both of them are having. I also definitely believe that Kageyama has no ill intentions. He just thinks that Hinata trying to improve this quick attack with no basis that it will actually work whilst a major tournament is coming around the corner is just unfeasible. While Hinata believes that he won't ever improve if he has to rely on Kageyama every time they want to use this special attack. The special attack in itself is something that cements Hinata to be on the starting lineup. Hope you enjoy future episodes!
Jess
2023-10-15 06:26:48 +0000 UTCYeah this season is just so well written - its difficult not to see both sides. Poor Hinata is just trying to reach new heights but the team sees it as an impossible task which is absolutely fair. Also, we still appreciate you Carlie but I think you got the Oikawa/Kageyama dynamic confused with Kageyama/Hinata on this one 😂
wicecakes
2023-10-15 06:17:41 +0000 UTCit's for copyright purposes, and come on, it's not even that bad, they only blur scenes that are not as important and they still leave us the text to know what the characters are saying.
noya
2023-10-15 05:52:18 +0000 UTCBefore they fought, Kageyama was tossing many balls knowing that Hinata is opening his eyes and missing. Yes he was annoyed but he kept tossing many balls, and all of them were missed. I like that Hinata is having greed to improve, but honestly, only those who can back their greed with techinique and skills have the right to be greedy. If you're a beginner, you don't have the right to be greedy at this critical time. Remember, Karasuno members feel that they are in trouble because they were the weakest team in the camp, there is no time to waste here!
Aizensalami
2023-10-15 05:43:06 +0000 UTCActually there’s an OVA for how Tanaka Tries to convince his sister to help drives kageyama n Hinata to Tokyo,I can guarantee your Love n respect for Tanaka will increase after This one OVA
Luizy Csy
2023-10-15 05:24:18 +0000 UTCThat quick specifically, is near impossible to change. Kageyama is essntially throwing a pitch sideways with a volleyball and hinata is the bat. The only way hinata can change it, is if he knows when and where that trajectory line is, and hit it differently and effectively. That means, decide where to hit and torqing his body for that at the exact moment the ball is flying through his space. He has to be LIGHTNING quick. Its possible on paper, but he has to stop watching the ball and look in front. Which counters the point of the attack. The reason it works is because there iz no block in front of him. By the time the block is in front, and to adjust, its going to be too late. To predict the block while hitting that pitch is difficult too, because all block to it is reactionary. If that is possible to do, hinata will need years of experience as a hitter, and should focus on other roles
baja
2023-10-15 05:13:57 +0000 UTCYeah, I understand Kageyama's reaction, but it's literally what Nekomata-sensei said: “In the end, those who do not want to change will not evolve.”
Zakki
2023-10-15 02:47:34 +0000 UTCLast time Hinata opened his eyes, the coach told him to change the way he sets. Kageyama didn't do it on his own. Kageyama is still very arrogant, and thinks his way is the best. I seriously hope you haven't seen this show in it's entirety before making this comment considering what we find out in the next episode.
Mten10th
2023-10-15 02:01:14 +0000 UTCSuperb double treat!
Lapisstories
2023-10-15 01:57:33 +0000 UTCAhhh, so excited for more Haikyuu reactions!!
Rae
2023-10-15 01:16:45 +0000 UTCDefinitely. And while I do believe Hinata is right, I understand why Kageyama reacted rhe way he did. From his perspective it seemed so obvious what they needed to do and hinata was needlessly, stubbornly complicating things. They just couldn't see eye to eye on the issue.
Smash Bran'Discootch
2023-10-15 00:26:11 +0000 UTCcarlie is way off with kageyama lol
noirxq
2023-10-15 00:23:04 +0000 UTCI 100% agree with this, don't really love how things turn out for Kageyama and Hinata but I know that it is totally normal to have that reaction when you're so stressed
Edmon
2023-10-15 00:22:26 +0000 UTCI personally don't feel like it has to do with the team. From what Hinata said, he thinks that the wierdo quick is the only reason why he's still a regular during the matches (meaning that he's not in the bench). He's afraid that by not being able to do something beside relaying on Kageyama's skills, the team might lose again, is not selfish to want to improve, but the team still doesn't comprehend the way Hinata thinks, at least what he meant by saying that he was able to se his surroundings before hitting the ball.
Edmon
2023-10-15 00:18:35 +0000 UTCCarlie misunderstood Kageyama a lot lol. He is the guy that hate to lose, there's no point for him to tryna be the best in the team when losing to other teams. He is looking for efficient solutions to win the game, and he don't see that Hinata can get to that point in such a short time, instead, training on serve and defense in which he sucks is more reliable. That's why he disagrees. Also when last time, Kageyama found Hinata is opening the eyes, he immediately changed the way setting to adapt him. Lastly, their competition is only existing in their own thoughts, nearly everyone values Kageyama more than Hinata, for his talent and skills, there's no need for Kageyama to fear about the possibility that Hinata surpass him, they are in the totally different positions. As a setter, he has both peak passion and talent. But as a spiker, Hinata lacks the physical talent, in which is very cruel in this sort of sports, but luckily, he is passionate as hell, that's why he can stand on the court.
Zinc Young
2023-10-14 23:48:59 +0000 UTChe did agree to toss some balls but not to the ones hinata want to do with his eyes open, you can see kageyama's annoyed face when he realized that hinata tried with his eyes open
bebe
2023-10-14 22:57:13 +0000 UTCHey hey hey the real haikyu fan will understand . Hike hike karasuno osé osé karasuno
Clément Creton
2023-10-14 22:52:45 +0000 UTCfor that reason, nekoma coach recently added lev to the regulars despite the risk. some ppl take the risk of getting ahead while others dont and stay stagnant and stable until they lose. and hinata knows that they will be blocked again if they continue with the one play which has already been blocked by multiple players
bebe
2023-10-14 22:51:52 +0000 UTCT’y fr thé react don’t try to overthink wen u commentary u loose a lot informations .bokuto finally here ,all of ur question will be answer on the show .all prediction of ange is bad 😂😂😂wait and see m .anyway love ur react but don’t overthink each time one question pop up in ur brain the show will answer for sure at this so just watch carefully the subtitle every word matter and every look or smile of Hinata is something to feel and decrypt as player .love u all be ready for the real war on court soon
Clément Creton
2023-10-14 22:50:39 +0000 UTCfr he was blocked all the time and kageyama still thinks they would win ushijima and oikawa with that same old tactic ppfft
bebe
2023-10-14 22:49:57 +0000 UTChe just came to stay late at night because hinata ssaid "toss some balls to me" that's why he came with him to the court, i dont think kageyama would even follow hinata if he said he's gonna do some 'open eye spikes'. like the above cmmt and my early reply to ur cmmt to mine, he was never willing and he was just angry that hinata wants to try sth. Would it fking hurt for him to at least get it right for the toss to hinata? Did he put an effort that night? he only changed after someone puts some food for thought into his brain. so yea, i will never like this part of kageyama being selfish and rude to hinata and before u guys start to say hinata needs to focus more on serving and receiving first, he should and he still needs to, but that doesnt and should not stop him from trying new plays either.
bebe
2023-10-14 22:49:00 +0000 UTC@ Matthias Krömer If you lack reading comprehension, look elsewhere for assistance.
Mten10th
2023-10-14 22:44:39 +0000 UTCYOU GUYS NEED TO WATCH THE OVA
Kevin Lin
2023-10-14 22:20:28 +0000 UTCYea Kageyama is definetly not being greedy, he just thinks what hinata wants to do is not plausible, plus they only have one more month until their chance for nationals so they cant mess up. Hinata wants to try this because he says he can see clearly when hes on top and because he doesnt really improve when all he does is jumping and hitting whith closed eyes. He wants to be able to fight by himself as he should) Hes not going to have kageyama to baby seat him all the time
Luiz Doria
2023-10-14 22:15:00 +0000 UTC@Mten10th what are you on about bro
Matthias Krömer
2023-10-14 22:11:36 +0000 UTCThese episodes are the hardest for me personally. At the same time, it's so necessary.
googlek1 .
2023-10-14 22:09:00 +0000 UTCAnge thinks of a new member at this point of the story. If its in real life it might destroy the balance of your team thats why nekoma coach said they are not sure if getting lev is a good path for them but nonetheless having a new blood is a good core for the future. unlike karasuno whose not having there full potential, losing practice games, quick attack becoming readable, and thinking putting a new character will ruin the team. so its more of harnessing their talents or getting new skills is the point of this training rather than getting a new member.
PJ
2023-10-14 22:01:27 +0000 UTCYes but I don't actually remember what happens. I'm commenting as a new viewer XD
Aizensalami
2023-10-14 21:43:05 +0000 UTCAlso, Kageyama wasn't really trying to do anything Hinata's way. He didn't change anything, he just put all the blame on Hinata. People who have have actually watched this show that try and make Hinata the bad guy in this situation are hilarious.
Mten10th
2023-10-14 21:38:47 +0000 UTCThe weirdo quick was defeated by 3 different teams. Kageyama is deluded to say that Hinata's will isn't needed. While he isn't being selfish, he is being arrogant. Hinata pointed out how stronger teams, like the teams that already, would stop the quick if Hinata doesn't get better at spiking.
Mten10th
2023-10-14 21:32:41 +0000 UTCHave you seen this show before?
Mten10th
2023-10-14 21:25:50 +0000 UTCFunny how you're proven wrong by the show, but keep on keeping on.
Mten10th
2023-10-14 21:24:19 +0000 UTCIf you've watched this anime, you know I'm correct. They have been using him, and the moment he wants to improve at something, they shoot him down.
Mten10th
2023-10-14 21:23:24 +0000 UTCThe thing about the fight is that they do try it out Hinata's way. Kageyama stays late with him after practice and gives him ball after ball and he isn't able to spike a single one even by luck. Also, people are right that it is not selfish to want to get better to help the team. However, it is selfish that he wants to help the team only by spiking the ball and not by improving any of his fundamentals.
Preetam Ozarde
2023-10-14 20:36:20 +0000 UTCI lean more to Ange's thoughts about the fight scene. Hinata is right about being greedy and wanting to improve, but I understand Kageyama's position. We could even see that the other team members and the coach were agreeing with Kageyama. That weirdo quick is already so hard to do, and trying to improve it by letting Hinata open his eyes and try to control the timing is crazy hard, Kageyama sets the ball very fast... it's like trying to catch a flying bird while jumping! theoretically it's nearly impossible, and that's why Kageyama and the team don't want to waste time and energy when the competition is knocking on the door, especially that Hinata really needs to put all his focus on improving his basics (receive, block, normal spikes, etc.). Imagine a rookie basketball player who currently still needs to work on his basic skills, suddenly tries to convince his team that he wants to specialize a segment in the training to assist him to dunk like Michael Jordan... it doesn't make sense does it?! 😂 To be fair to Kageyama, he did agree to toss the ball to Hinata before they fought to see if it's possible... if he was that greedy, he would've declined without tossing. Also, Kageyama said that now he understands that the best setter is the one who helps the spikers be at their 100%. If he thought Hinata is capable of opening his eyes and controlling the timing of the weirdo quick, he would've gladly agreed, because it will make him better as well if he helps the spiker become better. But he knows that Hinata is not there yet.
Aizensalami
2023-10-14 20:33:33 +0000 UTCI think it's disingenuous to say that the team is using Hinata and have done nothing to help him improve. Hinata is the one who only wants to spike. If he wants he can ask the coach how to get better at blocking or receiving (like Tsukki does in case of blocking). They can only help Hinata if he is interested in anything except spiking which at the moment he is not. Also, you're right it is not selfish to want to get better to help the team. However, it is selfish that he wants to help the team only by spiking the ball and not by improving any of his fundamentals.
Preetam Ozarde
2023-10-14 20:30:08 +0000 UTCYes he did stay late to practice but in the end, he didnt see it to the end, he didnt make changes to adapt to hinata at that time and was just angry at hinata for wanting to try. He told hinata that he would consider as not essential to winning and would not toss to him. Does being a setter give him the privilage to told off to another teammate like that just because one wants to try a new method. that was still rude of him. AND THAT IS WHY I SAID I DIDNT LIKE KAGEYAMA AT THIS PART. Man, i knew he changed afterwards but i am saying i dont like how he told hinata off in this one. After he changed or not, that's for later episodes.
bebe
2023-10-14 20:19:18 +0000 UTCActually Kageyama did try it Hinata's way by staying late and giving him ball after ball to spike and he wasn't able to spike a single one. Also spoilers for the rest of the season: So Kageyama and the others tell him that he needs to get better at hitting normal tosses (which is exactly what he has to do when he trains with Grandpa Ukai). Is it Kageyama's job to give him the tosses he wants? Yes, it is. But at this point even if they kept doing the same thing and Hinata kept trying to hit it wouldn't really help. Also, don't forget it was Ukai who came up with the idea of the floating toss not Kageyama. I would say it is not fair to call Kageyama egocentric here. It would be different if he didn't stay late with Hinata to practice the way he wanted. It would even be different if it was Kageyama who later came up with the idea of the floating toss because it would mean that had Kageyama thought about it more it would have worked. But Kageyama did everything he could. He even (this is my interpretation of the scene as shown in the next episode) goes to see kids play volleyball to see if some kind of inspiration strikes and later asks Oikawa for advice even though he knows it won't be pleasant. Hell even Ukai keeps thinking about making it work in his shop even before Hinata comes to him for help. He also needed advice from Grandpa Ukai to figure it out. The thing about this fight is that Kageyama is actually right. He tells him to get better at spiking normal balls and to improve the rest of his game. These are both things Hinata has to come to terms with. Also, Hinata says that he wants to fight on his own. But even after this even though he has freedom to spike the ball where he wants, the point remains that he is still dependent on Kageyama because no other setter (except Atsumu) can do what he does.
Preetam Ozarde
2023-10-14 20:12:02 +0000 UTCI agree with Hinata as well. I can understand where Kageyama is coming from, he's scared that this whole thing will mess up their chances to win the tournament, but at the same time I don't really get his thought process. The freak quick as it is now, is totally under Kageyamas control, literally all Hinata has to do is jump and swing. So if Hinata really wouldn't be able to make it work in time for the tournament, they could just go back to what they've always done with Kageyama controlling everything and Hinata just jumping and swinging. It wouldn't take long for them to get back into the swing of things considering how fast they mastered that move in the first place. So I don't really see too much of a problem there… Also regarding him "wasting time" trying for something impossible, instead of training to get better at receiving, serving and blocking. He is obviously practicing all the fundamentals with the team. We've seen him doing the receiving drills, we've seen Ukai talk to Tsukki and Hinata about blocking practice, and I'm pretty sure they're doing serving drills as well. It's not like he's saying, he is forgoing everything else in favor of trying to hit the freak quick with his eyes open, at all, but during spiking drills or even during their free practice, why shouldn't he try? I like that Kageyama did try to give Hinata a chance, but he gave up way too fast. Did he expect to see results after only one evening of practice? That's not how it works, especially not when the thing they're trying to do is that difficult. And I loved that line too, "It wasn't that he was the first friend I'd made. He was a partner." I was Yachi at that moment. I so teared up too, the first time I watched it.
Momo
2023-10-14 20:02:53 +0000 UTCthe way carlie called that in the first episodes, queen of foreshadowing🧎
beannie
2023-10-14 19:47:12 +0000 UTCI love y’all content but in terms of the editing could you reduce the blurring effect a bit? Because it was hard to see what was going on and when matches start it will be hard to follow what is happening. If possible could you go back to how you edited it before or do full opacity reactions if possible. Other patreons I’m subscribed to have an edited version for YouTube and a full opacity reaction for Patreon for the same price as your patreon subscription. This isn’t hate it’s just something I noticed and I really do enjoy your content you guys are one of my favourite reactors.
asli hassan
2023-10-14 19:22:20 +0000 UTCPoint of clarification: They were just playing practice matches. Notice how none of them were in uniform?
Smash Bran'Discootch
2023-10-14 18:33:48 +0000 UTCSo what the coachs said was foreshadowing was how both teams need to answer for their failure at the first tournament. He's not saying our team needs a new player but that they need to decide if they are 'good enough' and simply refine the skills and moves they already have in order to hope it makes them a stronger team, or try something new, whatever that may be, and take that chance that you might unlock a new level of skill. His answer was to add Lev, but Karasano doesn't have an unused player waiting in the wings, they can either be complacent or change for the better
DandyZombie
2023-10-14 18:18:41 +0000 UTCand dont worry about us cmmting regarding this issue, we do it everytime in every reactor's video of this part lmao.
bebe
2023-10-14 18:18:37 +0000 UTCI would say Hinata is overall an average player if not below. The quick is strong but he lacks so many other stuff like serving, receiving, and blocking. It's a pretty risky move for the team to focus on what Hinata wants but of course, it would be incredible if he can pull it off.
Decaf
2023-10-14 18:18:03 +0000 UTCSo for my final statement for this argument is that they should have at least try doing what hinata suggested and they can still decide to use it in the tournaments or not depending on how ready that new spike is. And trying new things out is done during practice matches so why not? In a world where everyone is improving, the one who stay stagnant is the one who loses. Hinata has spiked whatever tosses kageyama gives. It wont hurt kageyama to give one toss that hinata requested.
bebe
2023-10-14 18:11:11 +0000 UTCSoooooooo the thing is, Hinata is 100% right. The ONE thing he's able to do, the reason they put him on the court is being consistently shut down. He isn't saying "I want to be better than all of you and show how awesome I am!" he's saying "I need to improve myself in order to be an asset to the team." And I totally understand what you mean about there being a time and a place but like...they were at a training camp doing practice matches. That WAS the time and the place.
Smash Bran'Discootch
2023-10-14 18:07:25 +0000 UTCyup, definitely not selfish. Like i said in early comment, its not even a tournament atm and they could have at least try it out in this practice games. What's the point of practice matches if you dont try out new things? Using those new things in the match or not can be decided later. It does not hurt to try it at all. The selfish one at this moment would be kageyama. Kageyama was okay with hinata trying out the normal quick back then, so why is he not okay with hinata trying to open the eyes during freak quicks?
bebe
2023-10-14 18:05:40 +0000 UTCKagayama is not being selfish on purpose. He just can't see things from Hinata's perspective. Kagayama has always been a person who will try to do things himself. Hinata trying to change things up doesn't jeopardize anything considering Kurasuno LOST with how they are doing things currently. Hinata becoming a better spiker will only help the team, considering that's the way the team is using Hinata. Suga, Kagayama, and Coach Ukai are all setters and have no idea how to think like a spiker. The team is using Hinata because he has insane speed and athletic abilities, and in no way have tried to help Hinata improve. Hinata wanting to get better to help the team is NOT selfish.
Mten10th
2023-10-14 17:58:39 +0000 UTCI agree with Ange on the Hinata v Kageyama argument. I think Kageyama thinks that things will get a lot worse before they get better (if they would get better) if Hinata starts training for what they discussed rather than training the fundamentals he already lacks. I do, though, think that Hinata deserves the chance to improve past this point but I don’t think Kageyama has any ulterior motives for shooting him down.
Brendon Gandara
2023-10-14 17:56:27 +0000 UTCNo i did not say they are wrong, or kageyama at that but it wouldnt hurt to try hinata's way. Or how i should i say this, i am forgetting the word that i want to say. He should have at least say that "okay we will try that for today or a few days. if it doesnt work, we will go back to our ways, if it does, lets go for it" it would have been better if he just try that out instead of saying to hinata to spike what he tosses. It's a team play, hinata might not be that talented right now, he still holds an essential role in the team. Hinata's the only one who can handle Kageyama's quicks in the team and he should at least respect that part of him. kageyama cannot do those by himself anyway. He tosses, hinata spikes. Hinata has always spiked whatever tosses he gave from the start and it wouldnt hurt for him to try to give hinata what he wants for this once. Afterall, they are not playing in a tournament anyway and it is at least still right for hinata to wanting to try that out. I still dont like this part of kageyama in s2 whatever others might think. And that's where kageyama lost to oikawa. Because oikawa would give the tosses that would deem best for each spiker. kageyama still lacks in that department.
bebe
2023-10-14 17:46:02 +0000 UTCTanaka's sister's name is Saeko(pronouncing it like "psycho" is fine). "Ryu" is Nishinoya's nickname for Tanaka as his full name is Tanaka Ryūnosuke and his sister's full name is Tanaka Saeko. Nishinoya is a really informal guy who doesn't adhere to the normal conventions of Japanese society. It's actually seen as rude and overly familiar to refer to someone by their first name without an honorific(-San,-kun, -Sama, etc.). But Nishinoya doesn't play like that so calls Tanaka Ryu, Ennoshita Chikara and Hinata Shoyou. It's little things like that that really give you an insight into a character's personality.
Smash Bran'Discootch
2023-10-14 17:45:07 +0000 UTCcarlie and ange: "we think at least one of them may have failed" -the reveal- carlie and ange: shocked pikachu face 😂
Maxine
2023-10-14 17:40:16 +0000 UTCYou know sometimes they have an animal representing each school. Like crows and cats. Can you guys guess what kind of animal represents Fukurodani?
Decaf
2023-10-14 17:39:55 +0000 UTCi agree, but kageyama is right though, hinata's will is not needed for that quick specifically, its a setter's attack. he just needed somebody fast enough to hit it. kageyama is calulating the point of impact, the timing, the height, distance from the net, the speed of the ball, the trajectory, etc.. Heck, if Lev was on the team, it might be more deadly. kageyama even said to him, if he wants to improve, work on receive, blocks and other spike techniques on normal toss. However, since he is the only one spiking it, he's the only one seeing the small degree of freedom in the spike. he just doesnt have the vocabulary or volleyball experience to describe it or know what to do. it might be possible, but you are gambling too much time on it. if hinata is so gifted he can steer THAT quick on his own. he is gifted enough to develop monster blocks, or clutch receive. which is more feasible
baja
2023-10-14 17:39:36 +0000 UTCbut did u notice the three that confronted hinata are the setters (coach, kageyama, suga) and they didnt try to look at from a spiker's perspective. Kageyama is still being the egocentric king saying hinata to spike what he gives and that's kinda rude tbh because he wouldnt even try to compensate for hinata struggles. even the nekoma coach wanted some changes aka LEV because they lost at the previous tournament with the old team with the same tactics. If hinata doesnt change or improve his playstyle, if karasuno continue to go with what they have at season 1, i dont think they will be able to make a difference anyway. AND MOST IMPORTANT ONE is hinata wants to be a spiker who doesnt have to reply on kageyama all the time and him wanting that improvement for himself is valid. I would agree with 70% on hinata and 30% on the setters' pov.
bebe
2023-10-14 16:58:47 +0000 UTCour HEY HEY HEY and OYA OYA OYA have arrived
bebe
2023-10-14 16:52:33 +0000 UTCAHHH! yes! You're treating us!
Smash Bran'Discootch
2023-10-14 16:40:55 +0000 UTCoh lord, the way i sit around and wait for these haikyuu! reactions to come can only be described as deranged or psychotic lol
LisanAlGareeb
2023-10-14 16:40:24 +0000 UTC
