Jello Reviews - The Owl House & Gravity Falls (ft. Jay)
Added 2023-03-03 04:55:23 +0000 UTCJello (and his boyfriend!) review both "The Owl House" and "Gravity Falls", two shows they just watched together.
I showed my boyfriend Gravity Falls over the last few months and then we watched The Owl House and now we are here to talk about them at you for a long period of time.
Both of these shows have significant spoilers and being spoiled will hurt the experience of watching them, so we've segmented this review:
0:00 - Spoiler-Free Overview
32:03 - Talking about Gravity Falls [SPOILERS]
53:00 - Talking about The Owl House [SPOILERS]
I would not recommend listening to this review if you have not seen both shows. My quick recommendations are as follows: Gravity Falls is one of the best cartoons ever made. It's genuinely a 10/10 and everyone who likes animated shows should watch it. The Owl House has a weak first season with occasional high notes that averages a 6/10. This is followed by an absolutely incredible second season with fantastic, densely-packed episodes. Once she show speeds up, it never slows down again.
Comments
He did not. Didn't grab his attention.
Domonic Henning
2025-10-08 18:18:24 +0000 UTCDid you ever continue watching Amphibia?
Myths01
2025-09-06 17:33:28 +0000 UTCOh my! A like from the jellmeister himself! I'm touched! It should also be noted that the episode I mentioned is "Echos of the Past", which is the third episode of the second season and is therefore probably pretty close to the point in which the show's writing as a whole started to improve. I haven't watched the show since it ended, but perhaps the reason it feels like a switch gets flipped is because it retroactively adds needed context to a lot of the scenes involving a main character and therefore improves the viewing experience retroactively via recency bias. Whoops!
Fan Trades
2025-02-16 22:19:47 +0000 UTCI haven't listened to this review in a while, but I recently had a couple of thoughts in relation to the way King is written. For a fair portion of the series, a lot of his screentime is dedicated to the joke that he wants to be seen as scary but fails because he is physically small and the people around him seem to think he looks cute. Aside from the fact that I personally don't find anything in his design particularly adorable outside of the bodily proportions, I think the reason these jokes don't work as well as the writers think they do is that they failed to communicate the fact that King is supposed to be a literal child for a long time. Until the episode where Eda talks about how she and King met and explicitly tells the audience that he is eight years old, I was under the impression that King was just a bratty adult demon who happened to be small, kind of like Ludo from Star vs. the Forces of Evil. At first, I thought I might have just been dumb for not noticing this, but then I realized that there were several nonhuman side characters of similar size and behavioral functioning to King that are definitely considered to be adults by the narrative like Kikimora and Tibbles. Unfortunately, I've come to the conclusion that this disconnect is largely because of the person they cast as King's voice actor. Alex Hirsch is a really good voice actor, and even does some great performances in this role, but I question whether or not he would have been chosen for this specific character if the creator of the show wasn't his partner at the time. I feel like if King had a more childlike voice as opposed to one of an adult man, the way that the characters around him react to his antics would make more internal sense to the viewer from the beginning.
Fan Trades
2024-12-11 18:51:12 +0000 UTCI think I agree with most of what was said, but I LIKED Tinella Nosa!
AssuredlyReal
2024-06-01 21:45:19 +0000 UTCYou are correct, not sure how I mixed that up
JelloApocalypse
2023-11-18 10:21:24 +0000 UTCRelistening to this and idk if you watched the episodes out of order or something but um, the boy band episode of gravity falls is absolutely not "immediately after" sock opera? It's seven episodes before it, they aren't even in the same season, and the next Mabel-focused episode after sock opera is the love god one which I would argue continues Mabel's arc in a pretty sensible way.
Kompy
2023-10-10 21:58:14 +0000 UTCI don't remember hearing you two talk about her but what were your opinions on Willow as a character?
Owen Vuvuzela
2023-07-31 16:08:39 +0000 UTCSo we got some more info, apparently the first episode they wrote aware of the shortening was season 2 episode 11 so kicking the plot into high gear in early season 2 was on purpose
Cosmic Cupcake
2023-06-15 23:40:00 +0000 UTCWhy do people care so much about the nose. From my recollection the nose has like two minutes of screen time in the entire show I'm surprised that people have ANY strong opinions on this background character, to be honest. There is no need for NOSE discourse. 😐
Fan Trades
2023-03-23 16:18:42 +0000 UTCI don't think you're wrong, but I wish they did it some other way. I think I probably would've taken another one of the Coven Heads who didn't get much focus and made them a one-off villain. Like, we never got an episode about the Healing or Oracle covens. Hell, they could've even used Terra again. We already knew that Willow was a better team leader than Boscha because we learned that in the grudgby match. This time Willow's issue was her not wanting to burden her friends. I think they could've done something cool with the remaining coven heads. Oh well.
JelloApocalypse
2023-03-12 09:53:49 +0000 UTCI think Owl house 3.02 was so Basha-heavy because they wanted an epsiode focused on Willow and the gang, and needed an antagonist, and Basha is Willow's foil (hence the whole "Leadership isn't easy, is it?" angle), and then Kikimora got thrown in because they didn't want to make Basha completely unsympathetic and were content ruining Kikimora's redemption rather than spend time working out how to make a good Willow episode that didn't requre Season 1 level writing.
Finn Underwood
2023-03-11 05:39:25 +0000 UTCIt's not really a deep reason or anything, I just like her voice and some scenes she's in, like the one at the end of the writing competition episode.
Kradolpher
2023-03-08 10:03:26 +0000 UTCCan you explain why
JelloApocalypse
2023-03-08 09:14:56 +0000 UTCI like the nose...
Kradolpher
2023-03-06 10:47:28 +0000 UTCPersonally I think the second season of Owl house got helped by the reduction of episodes. Not saying I wanted less episodes, but the episodes we got were mostly plot relevant. Because they had to cut so much, what was left was the best they had to offer. If the show went on longer it could have just as good but I think this helped,
nightstar6
2023-03-05 07:36:12 +0000 UTC"I hate it when a frequently reocurring character is voiced by the creator" meanwhile Alex Hirsch
DerpHaven
2023-03-05 02:43:42 +0000 UTCokay but the best thing is that Rumble McSkirimish, has a back tattoo that just translates to "fart"
pandacommanda
2023-03-04 10:21:00 +0000 UTC....But what's up with Boscha? What really IS up with Boscha? How's Boscha doing? What's going on with Boscha? What fun, interesting, deep, and well-written thing is BOSCHA doing at this current moment- That sounds so frustrating, but it's also too funny to make me angry.
Skull Thunder
2023-03-04 05:31:03 +0000 UTCAgreed. I have a suspicion that was a remnant of the scripts having to get overhauled post-cancellation announcement and that introduction got lost somewhere along the way. ...Though I enjoy my headcannon of the writers going "Nah, the audience will eventually see that shot (it's not exactly hidden), and if they don't then they'll work it out; we don't have to explain it" without thinking of how momentarily immersion-breaking and distracting it is when a new proper noun gets suddenly dropped.
Finn Underwood
2023-03-04 00:54:31 +0000 UTCSteve The Ex-Guard, Now-Biker is great when I remember he exists, yeah.
Finn Underwood
2023-03-04 00:44:55 +0000 UTCDamn I wish we'd gotten 2 more episodes dedicated on how to pronounce her name. What's up with Boscha?
JelloApocalypse
2023-03-03 22:21:05 +0000 UTCYeah I figured it probably got teased like that, but that's NOT enough of an intro lmao
JelloApocalypse
2023-03-03 22:17:53 +0000 UTC1:09:00 "Grimwalker" is written on a page of a book in a two second focus shot of Belos' office in one of the earlier epsiodes, with a diagram depicting the blueprints of a human. It's not really an introduction to the term, and yeah it should have gotten more explanation in the dialogue, but it's technically introduced earlier in the season, for people who like pausing the show. That being said, Luz knowing it feels weird.
Finn Underwood
2023-03-03 19:09:27 +0000 UTCOfficially Owl House was cancelled because it didn't fit with Disney's brand image. Unofficially it was a Covid panicked decision where Disney execs didn't realize how popular the show was and decided they wanted to fund Loki and Obi-Wan more than some weird gay animated show. Apparently the execs have regretted their decision but it's too late to change it, the show is done.
Finn Underwood
2023-03-03 19:06:12 +0000 UTCIts amazing how consistent the disney "stsrt your show in the 2nd season" phenomenon is. Amphibia has that exact thing happen too.
Daniel
2023-03-03 18:12:59 +0000 UTCI agree with literally everything y’all said except HOW DARE y’all hate on Mattholomule. Best character, perhaps ever? 🤯🤯 the subtleties of his writing are superb, B/Voscha could never 😤
S
2023-03-03 18:07:39 +0000 UTCHow could you not discuss the objectively best character? STEVE
Folkloric
2023-03-03 17:17:02 +0000 UTCOOF, SHOTS FIRED.
Folkloric
2023-03-03 17:15:27 +0000 UTCI think Jello works better when he has someone to bounce off of, he can hold these up on your own, but having someone else there I think he works better
Kara Sheard
2023-03-03 17:04:37 +0000 UTCI think 6 is just the score for season 1
I have nothing BUT contempt for this court
2023-03-03 16:46:27 +0000 UTCI am making an entirely separate comment for this, but to make this clear: FUCK. YOU. DISNEY. INCORPORATED. Fuck you, fuck your homophobia, fuck your rampant greed and capitalism, fuck your shitty business practices, fuck every single executive, that has done everything in their power, to get every really neat animated tv concept trashed, fuck your meddling ruining good concepts, fuck your bullshit instant cancellations when the show isn't what you want, FUCK. YOU. DISNEY. INCORPORATED.
Call me Caesar
2023-03-03 15:43:05 +0000 UTCWhenever Boscha's not on screen, everyone should be asking, "Where's Boscha?"
Kelzo
2023-03-03 15:02:09 +0000 UTCIf you're not a fan of the "Isekai protagonist learns grade-school moral lessons every episode" format then I have some very bad news about Amphibia
Kompy
2023-03-03 08:29:45 +0000 UTC*season 2 ep 7 to be clear. First ep with Raine, who I love. They deserve the world, and a smooch from Eda. Do you think Disney will let the show continue with comics or other novels? Or will they lock it in the vault until people cool it with *motions at current events* this shit
Chandler B
2023-03-03 07:27:15 +0000 UTCI think part of why the focused on Boscha was the network—I believe Dana said part of why the first season focused so much on the school was Disney interference. I believe she also said they’d written up to episode 7 before cancellation was confirmed. She also confirmed Mattholomule and Steve the coven guard were half siblings and would’ve gotten a subplot if season 3 got to happen. Also their names are boscha and matt tholomule, but it doesn’t matter and I say that as someone who doesn’t hate them. Was looking forward to hearing your owl house thoughts, honestly I’d listen to another pod when the show ends. There’s still so much else to talk about, you didn’t even get to my personal favorite surprise friendship Hunter and Gus. What an unexpected but great way to spend 2 hours!
Chandler B
2023-03-03 07:24:41 +0000 UTCIt’s Boscha, not Voscha.
CroakPad
2023-03-03 07:04:50 +0000 UTCSeeing you and Jay do a video together was so cute, I would LOVE more guests on these in the future, you and your friends/partners bounce off each other so well! One small note, I feel like your STIB on Gravity Falls did say it best: Mabel just becomes the worst character by the end and gets away with it, which is bullshit. Otherwise, 10/10 show
Call me Caesar
2023-03-03 06:08:10 +0000 UTCDamn a 6? I know a 6 isnt BAD but still, I thought most of it was more satisfying then that.
Daniel
2023-03-03 05:05:48 +0000 UTC
