Star Trek TNG: 123-124
Added 2025-08-20 12:00:06 +0000 UTCEpisodes: Skin of Evil, We'll Always Have Paris
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I dont blame George for his reaction to Tasha Yar's death. I have watched this show many times, I still remember my first time seeing Skin Of Evil and I just sat there stunned... I do think though that Tasha Yar's death should have happened later in the episode. Like have it evelope Riker first and do the other crap it did, then have that Tar Monster from Scooby Doo kill Tasha Yar...
ImpishMisconception
2025-11-11 18:23:34 +0000 UTCIf they followed the principles of real science, every time they warp they would stay younger than people not moving that fast. With all the ships of all the advanced societies who have warp tech, it would be very confusing for everyone. Everyone would be time travelling every time they use warp drive. Or maybe going light speed squared just turns you into energy? Either way, Science Fiction is not Science.
Jay Perry
2025-10-14 03:20:26 +0000 UTCYes, more getting denied 😉
Marcus Hicks
2025-09-20 08:54:58 +0000 UTCNot sure if this is a spoiler, but George was right that Tasha Yar was grossly underdeveloped and underutilized in the show, so Denise Crosby wanted to be written out. Not sure if this is what she had in mind, though.
Marcus Hicks
2025-09-20 08:49:28 +0000 UTCArmus kind of reminds me of the creature from the Stephen King short story "The Raft".
Marcus Hicks
2025-09-20 08:46:52 +0000 UTCI think they killed her off like this to raise the stakes in other episodes. It wasn't a random red shirt that got killed. It was a main character. From this episode onwards viewers would be way more on edge when the crew is in danger.
Guts
2025-09-03 18:41:00 +0000 UTCthe look of Simone when she saw the dark liquid and realized whats going to happen was great :D
overdev
2025-08-29 22:37:48 +0000 UTCWhen the musician asked for a "mess of greens" he was referring to collard greens. A southern food staple consisting of green thick leafy plant similar to kale but tougher. To remedy this they are often slow-simmered with smoked meats until tender. I never liked the Captains response to the three revived people. If nothing else his curiosity should be peaked. A look into people from the past. The origins of his species. Imagine if a a frozen person from 300 years in our past, they would be instantly celebrities. But here the Captain basically chews out data for saving the life of three humans. Tasha Yar was dead on that planet, why didn't he yell at the landing party for bringing her body back to the ship and Dr. Crusher for trying to revive her. Its out of character for Picard. This episode was a milestone in the history of Star Trek by establishing that the first season of TNG took place in the year 2364. This was the first time an exact calendar date was provided for a Trek episode. The capsule containing the "frozen" had the name SS Birdseye was inscribed on the hull. "Birdseye Seafood, Inc." was one of the first brands of frozen food. "A couple of pit woofies." is a country music term for low-class groupies. The role of rich asshat was originally intended to be Harcourt Fenton Mudd, but Roger C. Carmel died before production of this episode could begin. So the character was rewritten as the money obsessed CEO butthead. When Claire Raymond searches for her family members with Counsellor Troi, the first screen shows that her son married Ginger and Mary Anne, a reference to Gilligan's Island (1964). Then, on the next screen, the first names are: Jonathan F. , Marina S., Denise C., Brent S., Levardis B., and Wil W.
Patrick - Excelsior
2025-08-29 21:48:47 +0000 UTCArmus is the physical manifestation of Crosby's decision. She was the one who "Abandoned" them. Armus is how the creators/writers felt about her decision. I could be full of Shit ;P
LazyBoy Stays Up Late Watchin Video Tapes
2025-08-28 08:11:14 +0000 UTCArmus was made of printer ink and metamucil.
p0sthum4n
2025-08-27 18:29:05 +0000 UTCHeadings and bearings relative to a vessel can easily be given in just two numbers, simply being degrees in the yaw and pitch planes relative to the ship's current position and attitude. In this case though, the shuttlecraft's position relative to the _Enterprise_ would have been of little use to the pilot; so, yes, it's just made-up numbers. Not a criticism, but George is truly a born Trekkie. ST fans are notorious for spending countless brain-watts picking apart details and trying to sew up plot holes. 90% of the time, the answer to "why did they" or "why didn't they just" questions is simply, "to get on with the story."
How Do Centaurs Masturbate
2025-08-25 21:11:33 +0000 UTCReally enjoyed watching these with you both. :) You both are a lot of fun to watch this show with! Super enjoyed it. :) Love this show!
Logan Kerlee
2025-08-24 03:31:35 +0000 UTCArmus is not "pure evil" in the sense that we take it in horror movies or anything. He is essentially the culmination of "evil" traits and desires from a civilized culture - think volumes of evil vs degrees of evil. 'Him' starting with death makes sense since it's what we all assume would be the worst thing, but as mentioned it was too quick and did not get the result he wanted. From that point he was less secure and lacked control as he searched for a way to properly torture them, especially when you consider he was being 'weakened' by Deanna (empathy incarnate). You have to remember Armus is a physical entity, not the embodiment of actual evil. While he retains remnants of those that discarded him he was essentially created and abandoned - the majority of his existence being in solitude.
PJ P
2025-08-24 02:47:54 +0000 UTCShe obviously regrets leaving. Mad to think otherwise
Jamie
2025-08-24 02:07:53 +0000 UTCJesus Christ George... the world ending plot and the missed date plot is literally a parallel to Casablanca. Two former lovers meet while the world is going to shit. "The problems of two little people don't amount to a hill of beans" and all that. Pretty much everything in that episode was a reference to Casablanca. It gets a bit tiring listening to George constantly tying to apply his narrow set of rules of television crafting like "they should have just killed er at the end" or "Plot A and Plot B don't mix well". The first episode might not be the best and might have missed the mark in several ways, but you're not fixing what's wrong with the episode by making Tasha's death this dramatic final piece of the episode. It made sense where in the story it was for what they tried to tell.
erosennin
2025-08-24 00:03:25 +0000 UTCI have an aversion to TNg "Verb of Adjective" episodes. Between this and Coffee of Honor, I think it was an act of mercy to write Denise correct out of the series. I must admit Arsenal of Freedom may be an exception to my rule. While not great, it's ok on a classic TOS easy. Anyway, this episode free Denise up to do more satisfying roles in her career.
punterjoe
2025-08-23 17:41:31 +0000 UTCVery entertaining watching George trying to rationalise why Tasha’s death should have had more meaning. Most deaths do not have meaning. Why should Tasha’s death be any more meaningful than that of engineer Singh? Or any of the other countless red shirts we’ve seen die? Characters die, there is still a mission to accomplish, then the other characters grieve for them in their own time. Exactly how every other death in the series is handled.
Edina Lewis
2025-08-23 15:34:19 +0000 UTCIt's probably already been mention but the actress Denise Crosby thought her character was shallow and was just "stage dressing" so she asked to leave the show, the writers decided to kill her off from the show. She didn't really do much afterwards, career wise she would have probably been better off staying on TNG, odds are her character would have grown in future seasons. As for Enterprise, they do have transporter technology, it's just brand new technology and not everyone trusts it. So they tend to take the shuttle instead.
McShades
2025-08-23 05:11:59 +0000 UTCParis - I think it is funny how much holographic foil film is used so often for “future” versions of things. Like Picard’s fencing helmet and gloves. You maybe able to alter time via gravity in a local area and other areas are less affected. But yes I always fear when shows dip to much into time and time travel it can be tricky for the canonical and future story elements. After wiping the fencing sword blade he then touches the blade ☹️. The woman in Pink’s dress actually looks modern with that much revealed. I noticed the carpet torn on the bridge! There is a song called “Strokin”, I can imagine that future bong accordion being used 🙉. I love how they push away their display as they stand at helm. French “Quelle Surprise”. Data provides some really cool writing ideas and solutions too. It’s the future we need lasers! So professor you are only allowed to work in the mirror dimension. They are dealing with time and dimensions and she is surprised by a Paris simulation 😎. We will just assume that part of space is mostly empty 🤞
SpankTheMonk
2025-08-23 04:42:31 +0000 UTCThe transporter not working when the script calls for it is like any story plot piece to allow instant raising of tension. Core tech not working - Definitely not unique to Star Trek.
SpankTheMonk
2025-08-23 03:53:24 +0000 UTCIn season 1 (and to a point 2 and 3) there is still character refinement. I personally don’t like a lot of Data’s dialogue or direction in season 1. And I am not sure how much the actor can be attributed to since it is the first season. The character of the black goo is written like a ToS villain character. Ah the blue of Dr Crusher’s uniform seems to have had a chemical change for part of the scene during post processing of the blue screen. No matter how bad people say the Skin of Evil episode is I think the funeral scene was moving and perhaps helped give the show a bit more attention in the media so it could continue? I think they needed more time the way the script was written. The downgrade was to show that the crew could affect the bad and win so to speak.
SpankTheMonk
2025-08-23 02:22:14 +0000 UTCAre you sure their are no spoilers for any tv or movies after season 3? Since it came out in 2014?
SpankTheMonk
2025-08-23 02:19:20 +0000 UTCNeat! Ty for sharing
SpankTheMonk
2025-08-23 02:15:32 +0000 UTCI don’t think I have ever played a Star Trek game. But I did think it was funny when Redlettermedia’s Mike was eating the character pieces on one of their YouTube episodes
SpankTheMonk
2025-08-23 02:03:32 +0000 UTC🥁
SpankTheMonk
2025-08-23 02:01:49 +0000 UTCBean things sounds yum 😅
SpankTheMonk
2025-08-23 02:01:26 +0000 UTCI also really like the way Troi is played in this episode. I think she's at her best when the writers actually acknowledge (a) she has powers (b) she is a counselor who understand psychology.
WastedPo
2025-08-22 16:39:17 +0000 UTCMuch as everything with Tasha naturally dominates talk about this episode, one of its redeeming qualities is Marina Sirtis giving an excellent performance as Deanna trying to navigate a difficult situation, showing her intelligence and value to the team even as she knows she's lost one of her best friends.
Weirdo
2025-08-22 14:57:52 +0000 UTCI'm sure in the 135 comments so far some of this is already mentioned.. some of which I've seen. Yes, she chose to leave, and regretted it afterward. Reasons being that she'd turn up on set, say something mundane like "Hailing frequencies open, sir", and that was it. No character death, no acting challenges... But TNG in the early days had a lot of issues with scripts, and rewrites to satisfy network execs, and stuff, people would draft a script, someone would review and change, and bigwigs would put their foot down, and it would get rewritten again.. The show was almost fighting to stay on air... as such, nuance and character development was often side-lined. Plus Worf's warrior/protector default mode threw off the balance of TNG doing the Trek thing by pushing the boundaries slightly by having the security chief be a female character... often to be overshadowed somewhat. The flick-of-the-wrist "and now you are dead" was actually Gene Roddenberry's doing. After failing to convince her to stay on the show he decided it would leave viewers vulnerable to the uncertainty of plot armour of main credit cast (hello Game of Thrones) Not really a spoiler: Character and inter-character stuff develops way better later on... which is where Denise Crosby's regret over leaving comes in.
G Lam
2025-08-22 13:38:32 +0000 UTCI was very tempted to comment "That wave......" But had to restrain myself
G Lam
2025-08-22 13:30:04 +0000 UTCIt was a shame we lost Tasha so early, but when I look at all the great stuff that can in some way be traced back to this episode, I don't ultimately regret it.
Hammerdash
2025-08-22 11:49:34 +0000 UTCI too really dislike Skin of Evil. I wouldn't have minded more Tasha Yar before she left the show either. I guess it means Worf will have more to do since he's now acting chief of security.
Jpsynergy
2025-08-21 19:00:34 +0000 UTCtechnically Microsoft saw this episode and thought, lets make the default background a reminder of a cast member funeral, which is what I thought when I first used Windows XP
The Real Andrew Kim
2025-08-21 16:41:51 +0000 UTCnow that its no longer a spoiler, because of the way production was shot, Denise Crosby's last scene she shot was actually back in "Symbiosis" in the scene where Picard is leaving the cargo bay at the end, you can see inside the room just before it closes, Crosby waves to the camera goodbye at the very last second https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZXAAwooVOA
The Real Andrew Kim
2025-08-21 16:35:43 +0000 UTCI skimmed the comments but didn't see it. The musical instrument played in the Parisian cafe are actually called "Vibe Tubes". They weren't named officially until S05E03 of Lower Decks where they appeared a bit more prominently.
Danny Roberts
2025-08-21 12:31:04 +0000 UTCWhen Picard tells Riker to look up if there were any other reports of time loops in that sector, and Riker starting searching on the little computer on his chair's arm, I remembered one of my favorite old Twitter accounts, @RikerGoogling. Some examples: Apr 18, 2023 real housewives of the mirror universe bittorrent Apr 21, 2023 can a visor see farts Apr 22, 2023 why do stars look small and close at warp speed Apr 23, 2023 are more people left handed in the mirror universe Apr 24, 2023 which pokemon can have sex with humans Apr 24, 2023 how can you tell if your cat is a republican Apr 25, 2023 apple starships vs google starships Apr 25, 2023 turn off communicator badge email alerts
Gary Fixler
2025-08-21 12:11:47 +0000 UTCSimone/George, I'm not sure who does the editing for these videos, but the sound mix on this one is PERFECT! Please make these levels permanent if you can!!!
Ben Schwartz
2025-08-21 10:18:58 +0000 UTCAnd later lied and said she gave it to him. He also got the episode wrong that was her final day of filming. It wasn't Skin of Evil, it was Symbiosis and she can be seen waving in the background as the cargo bay doors close as Picard and Beverly leave. That was her final scene.
Lincynity
2025-08-21 09:48:37 +0000 UTCAccording to DC Fontana the high-ups didn't want Worf. They fought tooth and nail to prevent him existing. Then she wrote Yar taking command of the saucer in a draft of Encounter at Farpoint and they suddenly wanted Worf and for him to be in command because they didn't want a woman in the centre seat. I don't think it's a case of too many characters, it's poor definition of what their purpose is. Worf is kind of a spare part up to this point. He was a good idea as the first Klingon in Starfleet but he doesn't really have a purpose other than a random command officer hanging around like an extra, but for some reason included in senior team briefings. Wesley getting included is even more baffling to me. Dumping huge pressure and responsibility on an untrained, unqualified kid and promoting him to the bridge over officers that have been working towards it for years just because some alien says he's clever doesn't really seem sensible or like encouragement to me. It's preferential treatment other academy candidates don't get. The chief engineers are like shift managers at McDonald's in season 1. I've always found it amusing that they announce themselves like , "this is Snidely P Whiplash, your chief engineer for today". It's an interesting choice.
Lincynity
2025-08-21 09:39:51 +0000 UTCThe black goo was metamucil and black printers ink. Apparently it was kind of corrosive and kept rotting the costumes.
Lowlows
2025-08-21 06:35:30 +0000 UTCThey didn’t fire her. She’s said she was miserable and asked to leave. She felt like Tasha didn’t have enough to do on the show. Later she said she had regrets about leaving when she saw how much better the writing got.
Lowlows
2025-08-21 06:33:32 +0000 UTCWe'll Always Have Paris: Never knew this before, but the actor that plays Jenice(Picard's old gf), is Michelle Phillips of The Mamas & the Papas. They were a famous folk rock group from the late 60s. They weren't together long, but they made some hits that have hung on and are still known today. Monday, Monday, California Dreamin', Go Where You Wanna Go, Dedicated to the One I Love. She's also the mother of Chynna Phillips of the group Wilson Phillips. While not as well-known as The Mamas & the Papas, they were quite famous for those of us that grew up in the late-80s/90s. Probably their biggest hit was Hold On.
Michael Kemmet
2025-08-21 04:24:41 +0000 UTCohhh happy birthday to me. will never forget this gift.
Ben Stevens
2025-08-21 03:48:07 +0000 UTCSkin of Evil pt 2: And thank you George for saying exactly what I was thinking during the entire memorial service(Windows XP background). lol
Michael Kemmet
2025-08-21 03:35:47 +0000 UTCSkin of Evil: At the end of the day, there were just too many problems with the original cast. Too many actors and too many underdefined roles. It led to writing problems, unhappy actors, and fan dissatisfaction. And then you have all the drama going on behind the scenes. In no particular order, where does Yar's job end and Worf's begin? For that matter, what exactly is Worf's job when Yar is around? If Wesley is going to be an acting ensign, exactly what is he supposed to be doing? Is he going to be on the bridge all the time? If so, where is he supposed to go? What about engineering? You've got this giant set, scenes placed there most episodes, and the ghost of Scotty hanging over it all, yet you've chosen to do a chief engineer of the week for some strange reason. Even with 26 episodes in a season, how can you can you have enough character episodes to keep nine actors satisfied? Put it all together and something had to give with the main cast. Crosby being unhappy and wanting to leave gave them the first solution. Reduce the main cast by one and some of the pressure for character episodes is relieved. It also clarifies the Yar/Worf situation. Other changes may or may not be happening in the future to address other problems. Some will work, some won't. Eventually it will all settle down with the bugs worked out reasonably well(though some cast will never be completely happy for good reason).
Michael Kemmet
2025-08-21 03:13:47 +0000 UTCI just had a really dark thought. George commented again about Tasha always being horny. I just put that together with the fact that SA victims can often become hypersexual, and her growing up on a planet with roving rape gangs... Ick.
Angzarr
2025-08-21 03:05:41 +0000 UTCI couldn’t find an explanation for why he keeps identifying himself as “Leland T. Lynch.” I thought perhaps it was some sort of joke or reference to something else, but I can’t find anything like that.
REDR58
2025-08-21 02:57:51 +0000 UTCI know they posted before they went ahead with the "you don't need your own copy" versions, they had in depth discussions with Patreon about it. So they definitely wouldn't have done it if Patreon hadn't given the OK.
Donna Castellano
2025-08-21 02:45:54 +0000 UTCLeland T. Lynch seems like kind of a dick. Who gives their full name with middle initial every time they talk!? Unless there is another Leland Lynch in Engineering, it's just annoying. Also, I think "Skin of Evil" sounds like forms on top of a bowl of black liquid evil goo when you leave it in the fridge too long, like a bowl of pudding...
Angzarr
2025-08-21 02:23:02 +0000 UTCThis is true. Ms. Crosby (Bing Crosby's Granddaughter) wanted to expand her acting career into "more serious" roles. Unfortunately for her, that didn't pan out quite the way she had hoped. After leaving Star Trek, she starred in such greats as Arizona Heat, Miracle Mile, Pet Sematary and Dolly Dearest. She has had many more movie credits over the decades, but clearly not the illustrious and prestigious legacy she had envisioned for herself back in 1987. Still, we love her and her contributions to the series, and we wish her well.
Deano 42
2025-08-21 02:19:03 +0000 UTCIs anyone else concerned over advertising the 'you don't need your own copy' on the public youtube videos? I'm worried that if word gets out enough someone (patreon, copy write holders) might take action against the website/patreon. Sorry if this was answered in another place but it seems dicey to tell everyone you can stream hundreds of hours of content just by giving you guys the monetary equivalent of one episodes purchase.
David N
2025-08-21 02:05:36 +0000 UTCWhen you guys are done season 3 you should watch a documentary called “ Chaos on the Bridge “. It’s actually free on YouTube and it’s made by William Shatner. It’s all about the first three seasons of Star Trek, the next generation and all the drama and power grabbing and politicking that was going on behind the scenes. I’ve seen it and it’s absolutely nuts and they get cast members from the show For the documentary. Both you guys have so many questions especially George about story decisions and why things went one way or the other? I have a feeling if you watched this documentary, you’d understand why the first three seasons of the way they are.
Zero Cochrane
2025-08-21 02:04:34 +0000 UTCI had that book and pored over that thing letter by letter and page by page. I remember distinctly how it describes the dolphin tanks in the ship! It’s too bad we never saw that in the show, sort of like Seaquest DSV did it.
REDR58
2025-08-21 01:57:43 +0000 UTCAt the end of Skin of Evil in the Holodeck, I think that is the first we see the Green uniform in TNG, worn by Dr. Krusher.
Pearl Jam
2025-08-21 01:17:50 +0000 UTCRegarding coordinates: the answer to all of your guesses is "yes" ...the Star Trek: The Next Generation Technical Manual (which I HIGHLY recommend you grab a copy of, but only after you've watched the third season, as it would be minorly spoilerish otherwise) does a fantastic job of explaining uncountable inconsistencies in the show's writing and presentation, and it does it all quite convincingly. In terms of navigation coordinates, because the writers were stupidly inconsistent about them, it shows you about a half-dozen ways they can be given, all dependent on situational context. Two-number coordinates are usually implied to be a bearing relative either to/from a ship, a significant navigation point (usually the center of the star system, sector, or from galactic core), unless the writers used a number bigger than 359, wherein it's supposedly just the X and Y coordinates on a sector map, with the Z-axis aligned to the galactic rotational axis, and not given in that coordinate set - basically just to pinpoint where they are from a top-down orthographic perspective.
Maerandir Eldar
2025-08-21 00:59:02 +0000 UTCFun fact, for those who know both shows, the We’ll Always Have Paris episode aired on May 2nd 1988, while the Red Dwarf episode Future Echoes aired 22nd of February 1988.
Gavin
2025-08-21 00:51:32 +0000 UTCWrong. Lol
Eric Wilson
2025-08-21 00:50:05 +0000 UTCWe’ll Always Have Paris: I don’t believe we’ll ever see Picard fencing again or nor the ensign he was fencing with. Note that Denise Crosby is still listed in the opening credits despite not being on the show. George time stopping in just this universe or all universes currently? 😄 Michelle Philips who plays Jenice is one of the singers from the folk music band “The Mamas & the Papas”: https://youtu.be/N-aK6JnyFmk?si=dk89h25VHp_26UXq https://youtu.be/zUr5_QVPCAI?si=95CZNCZeLJ5GUnhE When Picard got on the turbolift to go to holodeck three you can see the lights moving sideways as opposed to up or down as it normally does. This means the holodeck car was moving horizontally instead of vertically. Which it can do, by design. Later, when Picard takes the next turbolift car it travels vertically. I think Picard said 15:00 hours and then 3 PM because he was thinking he’s in a less formal situation where you typically don’t use 24 hour time? I hope no one ever builds a tunnel underneath the Eiffel Tower. It looks horrendous. Someone flew under it once, though… https://youtu.be/6E8oc1nQWF4?si=2FKvJvFanKaubFcj And during WW2, an American fighter pilot chased a German and flew under it: https://youtu.be/gYdB6thCLfg?si=XLE7-cUgnG6GAbO1 That costume they have Michelle Philips wearing was horrendously unflattering. Like Vandor, Tattooine also orbits a binary stars! George, the combination of the A and B plots might seem kind of oddly paired, but there’s only so much time in an episode to do something like this. And most of the Star Trek stories are confined to a single episode. Why is Mannheim still in his work outfit? He should be in a hospital gown or something. But of course they never do that in Star Trek. Every time I watch this episode, I forget that Manheim lives at the end. I’m just gonna go ahead and assume there will be a massive investigation into what Manheim is doing by the Federation. But, eh. I’m kind of annoyed how Troi keeps getting up at everybody’s personal business. Yeah I know it’s her job and everything but whatever it’s annoying. When Jenice meets Picard in the holodeck, you think she and Picard might have at least changed. The “Blue Parrot Café” refers to Signor Ferrari’s Blue Parrot Café in “Casablanca.” Simone, remember that Riker had a hologram thing in his quarters with female musicians earlier in the season.
REDR58
2025-08-20 23:08:59 +0000 UTCProbably a "favorites of the season" like they did with TOS?
lalaland
2025-08-20 21:54:32 +0000 UTCDenise Crosby thought the show was silly and wanted out. A few years later she realized just how many people the show touched and how much it meant to others, and just how much she actually did enjoy her time on it while she was there. She regretted asking to be written out. She has since embraced the Trek fandom and... well that's all I'll say.
Jomero
2025-08-20 21:54:21 +0000 UTCYa but why are we trying to have 'realistic' in a star Trek TNG story... That just seems like a lame excuse to a bad episode imo. In a space fairing, heroic, melodramatic and often ludacris show. Suddenly we doing "realistic"? If a wizard appeared in breaking bad and fixed cured Walt's cancer you wouldn't say it's good to have some "fantastical éléments".
lalaland
2025-08-20 21:50:34 +0000 UTCI like when people are dismayed or baffled at the Skin of Evil Yar death, if only because it shows that it worked. Everyone is used to the "hero's death" and to have the plot revolve around that character's departure. This was the most "realistic" in terms of what their life was like working as Security Chief on a starship and the risks that come along with it. The breaking of the plot armor, in such a casual, meaningless way, creates a shock in first viewing that makes many confused, angry, annoyed....just like how we might deal with a sudden unexpected death in real life. You're left asking "Why?" and there is no answer. So, the most "realistic" death of a major character in Star Trek imo.
StonyD
2025-08-20 21:46:19 +0000 UTCJust in case no one else brings it up, the show did a terrible job of actually explaining Tasha's cause of death. So Simone, when Tasha is attacked by Armis with the force field, it looks like it has an energy wave or component in addition to the physical movement. The next hint is when Dr. Crusher is attempting to stabilize her brain pathways, the medical assistant says her synaptic network is breaking down. Then when Dr. Crusher stops the efforts to revive her, she states, "That thing just sucked the life right out of her." (Timecode 16.26) That, combined with Armis absorbing the phaser shots from Riker and Data with no effect, I would guess that Armis has the ability to absorb/control energy, both normal and biochemical. That's how I'm guessing the original idea was created, but through all of the rewrites that the TNG scripts went through, someone probably figured it would be easy to cut the death cause analysis to save time and figured the audience wouldn't care (probably hoped the audience would be more focused on her dying, not how exactly she died), which was a terrible mistake.
Plaid Hills
2025-08-20 21:13:04 +0000 UTCThat time when Simone nails the timing on "Space..." but George is talking and only we notice it...
StonyD
2025-08-20 21:04:22 +0000 UTCI watched this when it was first aired and I was stunned and angry at the time. But after doing research here and there over the years, the reason Tasha was killed off was because Denise Crosby wasn't happy about her character not having enough growth or screen time. She just wanted out . She didn't want to wait for season 2 and didn't want to stay. So they wrote her out fast .So George, you are kind of right. But also, sometimes getting killed for no reason in the military is the point. Keep on going, it just gets better and better.
Brad Enervold
2025-08-20 20:53:30 +0000 UTCAs Andrew and GAB mentioned below, I think there's plenty of good in "Skin of Evil", and saying as much compels me to think of how the Skin of Evil was created in the first place -- from something good, shedding its worst attributes. Because that is what we must do. Picard says it meaningfully here, that the REAL evil is not standing up to evil when given the chance. Dictators and detractors like Adolf and Eric Cartman are always going to exist. It's up to the rest of us to not entertain or give in to the demands of evil, even and especially when those whims are mysterious or mercurial. There is no bargaining with such a creature. You have to stop them when they can be stopped, ignore them when they can't be stopped, and be willing to accept your fate and stick to your morals if they can't be ignored. Beverly Crusher voiced her dissent, but chose herself as the sacrifice rather than give in to fear and pick someone else. Each time someone was given the choice to target someone else to save themselves, they declined. Picard put himself in danger to get his away team off the planet, because he knew he had the philosophical mind and fortitude to do what was necessary. Resistance at every level, especially when the only good choice is to not play the game. You're saying it's a bad episode, but imagine how much better off we'd be if our citizens had the courage of this crew, to stand up to the police and to their representatives; if our representatives had the courage of this crew, to stand up to their lobbyists and party whips; if our media had the courage of this crew, to stand up to the corporations and their owners/shareholders. We wouldn't be in half the mess we're in now, and each member of the away team personified what it takes to fix society when faced with poisonous adversity.
Dan
2025-08-20 20:52:11 +0000 UTCArmus was more like a puddle of sh!t. I mean, people were just around, touching his stuff...He looked like a big bag of crap...
Paul T Hewes
2025-08-20 20:44:16 +0000 UTC"ooops...lost his pattern in the buffer." 🤷♂️
Paul T Hewes
2025-08-20 20:41:47 +0000 UTCI agree. It's not perfect, but it has some genuinely good stuff in it. (Troi's interactions with Armus... when Data is forced to point his weapon at his colleagues.... Armus's voice acting.) Frankly, I think the scene at the very end when Tasha says goodbye is one of the best scenes in the entire season. George observed that the goodbye scene seemed disproportionately dramatic compared to how little screen time Tasha got, but I think that's more an indictment on the rest of the season than that one scene. I also think the rest of the crew acted appropriately after Tasha's death. They were shaken up, but they still had to save the lives of Ben and Troi. It would be downright unprofessional if they spent the rest of the episode moping around.
WastedPo
2025-08-20 20:06:16 +0000 UTCYeah, I agree, especially with how the infamous "red shirts" were so unceremoniously killed off for so long. Why should a main character get a "plot death" just because they didn't get plot armor? Granted, there's plenty of plot armor to go around going forward, but I rather like this end just for its uniqueness and straightforwardness.
Dan
2025-08-20 19:55:47 +0000 UTCSince George talked over it, I feel a need to acknowledge Simone's perfectly timed 'Space...' at the beginning of episode 24. Well done, S!
Hans Czajkowski Jørgensen
2025-08-20 19:12:16 +0000 UTCI think Denise Crosby leaving really helped the show as her character and Worf were too similar and this allowed us to get a lot more of Worf...
Polecat21
2025-08-20 19:07:31 +0000 UTCYou hit the nail on the head. The transporter is the most underused tool, one of the best weapons you can have.
Eric Wilson
2025-08-20 18:40:07 +0000 UTCIt’s unfortunate what went on around Denise Crosbys exit. Producer Rick Berman ripped the combadge off her uniform and told you won’t be needing this anymore.
Stephen Morris
2025-08-20 18:23:10 +0000 UTCSkin of Evil I saw pretty much all of TNG first run as it was broadcast back in the day. I was in the 7th grade when it started and I don’t remember feeling shocked when Yar died because I think I had heard about it ahead of time. I certainly wasn’t surprised by it when I watched the show. George, TNG was not originally broadcast on Cable TV, so it wasn’t even allowed to be as violent as what was shown in HBO or the like. It was broadcast free, over the air (or on satellite) in syndication on various local networks. In my case, in the Philadelphia area, it was on a UHF channel, 29, WTXF: https://youtu.be/tvnUVffcpYw?si=I81cYH2Sd0fOzwnM Simone, “Star Trek Enterprise” originally aired from 2001 to 2005, after TNG (1987-1994) and Deep Space 9 (1993-1999). Both TNG and DS9 are set in an overlapping time period with some events happening concurrently.
REDR58
2025-08-20 18:03:21 +0000 UTCBabylon 5 is really a magnificent show. I hope they get to that here someday.
REDR58
2025-08-20 17:46:50 +0000 UTCCoordinates are explained to Lore in “Datalore.”
REDR58
2025-08-20 17:42:54 +0000 UTCOh yes. “It did happen” would have been so much more impactful, silly as it was in the context of that event and the episode.
REDR58
2025-08-20 17:42:20 +0000 UTCMake it so!
SpankTheMonk
2025-08-20 17:14:32 +0000 UTCArmis is compelling as a character because of how he is characterized in the context of Trek up to this point. The beings that created him essentially gave him consciousness and left him to suffer, which the script points out as a contrast to the Enterprise crew. So in a sense, the purpose of Armis is to contrast the values of the Federation with those of a species of angels, whose scientific values and aspirations are would seem godlike to the Enterprise crew. So in a sense, Armis, like Q himself, demonstrates that morality is independent from superior knowledge and power. At the same time, why Armis was given consciousness and then abandoned to suffer eternally is unexplained. The best explanation could be that the culture that created him has rules against terminating life, or that they simply look down on him. Whatever reason, it seems as arbitrary as the Prime Directive, which as we have been shown is really just a trolley problem of conflicting ethical standards. Is it a greater harm to cause death or eternal suffering?
Stuart Sutcliffe
2025-08-20 16:59:56 +0000 UTCSkin of Evil is just a bad episode. I have no problem with killing off a character or making that death meaningless. There's a decent concept buried in the episode, it's just badly executed (like Tasha). I didn't mind them having to put aside their feelings to get on with rescuing Deanna and Ben. They hadn't moved on, they were just being professionals. But the worst part of Skin of Evil is the ending. That is the worst kind of american schmaltzy, saccharine, It is so vomit-inducingly bad that it robs Tasha's final moments of any real emotional impact it might have had. There were better ways to handle this. I've heard it suggested, I think by Denise Crosby, that Tasha's message to Data should have been simply, "It did happen." and let viewers link it to what she told Data at the end of The Naked Now. That would have been meaningful. Never mind. Starfleet security officers have a built-in expiry date. Maybe Worf will get something to do now.
Joe Stacey
2025-08-20 16:57:45 +0000 UTCOn the topic of the coordinates used: two axes are enough to go anywhere in 3D space, because the third is just the roll. So you might arrive upside down, but who gives a fuck?
Walter H.
2025-08-20 16:54:03 +0000 UTCI kind of like how off handed and meaningless her death was and think that was very intentional. It's something Joss Whedon also liked to do much later and Game of Thrones much much later (or in between if you take the books). I don't think a main character's death necessarily has to occur as a great sacrifice, sometimes things happen randomly and with no great consequence.
Ginger
2025-08-20 16:41:04 +0000 UTCI really like Simone but she lost me when she said there is no Klingon Empire. Even if you dont watch Season 1 or 2 this was a WTH moment for someone who said she is a big Star Trek Fan and she loves TNG. I like Simone but that was a true head scratcher. Crosby´s career really went downhill afterwards. She never had a noteable career but to leave the show so early was premature.
Curaitis
2025-08-20 16:19:33 +0000 UTCAlways funny watching this episode and thinking about a future episode wher it gets dunked on so hard. "It was a pointless death, an empty death"
Alex Macdougall
2025-08-20 16:14:43 +0000 UTCThe black sludge is a pool of Metamucil and printer's ink.
Patrick - Excelsior
2025-08-20 16:08:10 +0000 UTCIf Simone wasn't so clueless about Star Trek (sorry) she'd explain that Denise Crosby didn't want to continue playing Tasha Yar because she felt she wasn't getting any character development, so she wanted to quit and they had to suddenly kill her off. If she had only had more patience she would have gotten those episodes she wished for like all the other main characters eventually did. Denise Crosby went on to star in terrible b-movies and unknown tv shows so it was definitely a bad move by her. But she will return in Star Trek eventually in one way or another.
RSteele
2025-08-20 16:03:59 +0000 UTCImagine the impact this would've had a couple seasons in. I think the funeral scene suffers a bit because they had to kind of make up some relationships that the show never explored. Like when she talks about her feelings about Beverly and Geordi. Though the Data part is great, because you get the feeling that he does kind of have some emotions in there somewhere.
Joe Concepts
2025-08-20 16:01:19 +0000 UTCThe apparent point of Tasha's death was to imitate the security officer deaths from the original series. We, as viewers, became used to seeing those people dying so abruptly that we came up with the term 'Redshirt' to describe them.
A Red Mage Named Blue
2025-08-20 15:49:36 +0000 UTCDenise Cosby (Tasha Yar) auditioned for the character of Deanna Troy and didn't get the part. They gave her Tasha's but she didn't like the character and the show that much, so she decided to drop it. Actually a lot of the cast didn't believe in this "remake/sequel" of a such iconic franchise, thinking it'll be a flop. Denise will regret having left the show later and it's still one of her bigger regrets. When I saw the show for the first time, I thought her final speech was too much for the character. I've never had the time to be attached to her that much to empatize for her at that level. I've always seen her like an extra with some dialogues. The actrees didn't like the character exactly for that: she said "my chracter is too much in background, and the main line she says is AYE SIR".
Light Movies
2025-08-20 15:46:46 +0000 UTCSimone not knowing what "cake" means in the context George used it is actually super wholesome XD
akaTheBARON
2025-08-20 15:37:36 +0000 UTCI actually like Skin of Evil. The practical special effects are terrific and genuinely creepy. I like that Tasha's death is sudden and senseless because it's so realistic and shocking. Seldom do main characters in a cast suddenly die like this. It's also worth remembering that Denise Crosby wanted to leave so the writers had to figure out something on short notice. Regarding Artemis, his character is more relevant today than ever. We see people on the internet that are angry and spew hate because they are deeply unhappy people. Some of these people commit unspeakable acts of violence. It is senseless and impossible for people to understand much like Tasha's death. I thought that leaving Artemis on the planet alone was a fitting ending to the story.
Andrew
2025-08-20 15:36:31 +0000 UTCHi Daniel, we watch the show directly on Paramount+ so whatever they list the episode number/title as, is what we go by. Additionally, on Wikipedia it shows episode 25 as Conspiracy rather than 24. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation_season_1 this confusion from different sources may be due to the fact that the episodes both called Encounter at Far Point is sometimes considered as one episode on some listings, and sometimes considered as two episodes on others. We'll add episode titles into the descriptions going forward.
George Simone
2025-08-20 15:27:35 +0000 UTCHold up, I’m lost. I thought S1 E24 was “Conspiracy”. Are Simone and George jumping around episodes or do they have a different list? It would be helpful if they posted episode names.
Daniel Popp
2025-08-20 15:21:02 +0000 UTCApropos good TNG episodes, my opinion is that the 1995 point-and-click adventure game "Star Trek: The Next Generation - A Final Unity" is the best. Perhaps I'm biased because it tickled my nerd sensibilities by including pulsar-based celestial navigation.
GAB
2025-08-20 15:04:52 +0000 UTCRIP to Simones "Its Star Trek day" and "Space...Fuck" <3
Piep
2025-08-20 15:04:24 +0000 UTCDid anyone else notice how Simone nailed the "Ssssssp...fuck" moment during both episodes while George was talking, and how disappointed she was that it was not acknowledged? I noticed Simone! I see you!
Mastervodo
2025-08-20 14:58:29 +0000 UTC1. Skin of Evil is just a garbase episode. 2. Denise Crosby wanted to leave. She got offered another gig and didn't think TNG was going to get renewed. :P 3. The big thing with the transporter is it was cheap. On TOS they couldn't afford to do SFX/mode shots of shuttling down all the time, so they came with with the transporter which was a cheap video effect.
Robert Cooper
2025-08-20 14:55:56 +0000 UTCI didn't like the Tasha Yar character. Maybe she didn't have time to grow and thats why, but what happened as is didn't add up to much. And one thing I dislike about older shows is that nothing ever changes. This had a permanent effect and so I appreciate it from a standpoint of "guts to make decissions for the show". On the way it happened: I can't say I hate it. Can't say I love it. Sure, most times shows will milk such a moment way more effective, but on the other hand it just happening and not being reversed is refreshing. Things can just happen. The one reason I prefere Babylon5 over the older startrek shows is that such things happen more frequent. That people come and go and that the status quo gets shaken up.
Dioskur
2025-08-20 14:55:54 +0000 UTCTIL what a stickle brick is.
Mastervodo
2025-08-20 14:52:37 +0000 UTCYes, the sound balance needs adjusting or a technique similar to audio ducking needs applying. As long as the subtitles are there and readable, I wouldn't mind.
GAB
2025-08-20 14:52:24 +0000 UTC9:51 exactly.
Mastervodo
2025-08-20 14:50:02 +0000 UTCOddly, Skin of Evil is generally considered a bad episode but the fans argue continuously about what makes it a bad episode. This episode found numerous ways to get under people’s skin.
Skyruff
2025-08-20 14:48:56 +0000 UTCOn the no sync required version, the theme music for the opening and closing completely drowns out George and Simone discussing things
A Red Mage Named Blue
2025-08-20 14:47:24 +0000 UTCIn original TOS they do use the transporter to bean things into space a few times. They even killed the human that the entity known as Jack the Ripper was inhabiting by beaming them into space. If I remember correctly they also put the destination as wide dispersal to try and destroy/strand the entity. The Federation is just so against these types of acts that they are forbidden except in extreme instances. Kirk got away with a lot of stuff that gets turned into a joke a few times later in Voyager.
Skyruff
2025-08-20 14:42:36 +0000 UTCSimone's face when she realized it was the episode Tasha dies. 😂
Andrew
2025-08-20 14:27:25 +0000 UTCArmus bears a lot of similarity to Eric Cartman and numerous Internet trolls. If he'd been orange instead of black, that would also have been glorious meme fodder.
GAB
2025-08-20 14:24:55 +0000 UTCEvery time I watch the funeral of Tasha talking to everyone makes me tear up. Great ending ❤️😢❤️
mike
2025-08-20 14:22:45 +0000 UTCI hope during the post "Skin of Evil" discussion George wasn't Googling why Tasha Yar was written off the show. It's not that I don't want him to know. I just don't want him to accidentally get spoilers for other episodes.
WastedPo
2025-08-20 14:21:36 +0000 UTCI for one have quite enjoyed 2 episodes at a time, because there seems to be more post episode discussion. Of course it could be coincidence that you've found more to talk about with those epissodes, and it's not like I don't love it when you have time for three. But I don't feel robbed when you only do two.
Lincynity
2025-08-20 14:20:45 +0000 UTCI feel like needing the fear of Armus to ramp up is just how we do things. I don't think it needs to be how we do things, though. Like I could see a movie with a big murder at the beginning, and the rest is just the person realizing it was wrong, no more action, fear, or drama. I feel like we're locked into needing everything to escalate, the way I'm locked into the kind of music I grew up with. I almost never like new music, but it doesn't mean it's wrong. That said, I don't feel like the story worked all that well. It did feel kind of rushed out somehow, but then it is season 1 still, and Star Trek does have it's hits and misses.
Gary Fixler
2025-08-20 14:19:54 +0000 UTCIt was reported that Denise Crosby (Tasha Yar) left because she was dissatisfied with her role, although I've also heard she wasn't happy with the series generally - like some other cast members - particularly after the episode "Code of Honor". Picard standing up his date without explanation wouldn't have happened if mobile phones, texting, e-mail and instant messaging hadn't somehow inexplicably become un-invented by the 24th century.
GAB
2025-08-20 14:17:16 +0000 UTCI understand where George is coming from about the death of Tasha. I have the opposite thoughts. I find it perfect, and kind of refreshing how they killed her off in such an unceremonious way, just killed by a random goop monster. It shows how dangerous it can be as a Starfleet officer on the daily.
Ca$hWednesday
2025-08-20 14:12:34 +0000 UTC"Baron Harkonnen". Dude, please never change. I know people complain about random stuff a lot, but they are all here because you two are the way you are!
Thall
2025-08-20 14:09:32 +0000 UTCTo me, Tasha's mundane and trivial death was the point. They killed her off as though she were a random redshirt just like the many others throughout TOS. As for why Crosby left, she began asking where they intended to go with the character as she was beginning to feel like bridge scenery. She has since said the reply she got from Roddenberry was that they planned to be focusing on the big three like TOS, in this case Picard, Riker and Data and weren't going to focus on the other characters. Therefore she asked to be released from her contract. Roddenberry agreed but only if they could kill the character off. It was very much a watershed moment in Trek. Up to that point it had been one of those shows where you could depend on the characters returning next week with no permadeath for regular cast. Tasha removed that security for viewers. As a teenager watching at the time, having grown up playing Star Trek and told I had to be Uhura and sit and do nothing with a stickle brick shoved in my ear because I was a girl, Tasha was vindication although I never really had the time to warm to her as a character. Even though every episode was thoroughly spoiled by the time I saw them. her death was shocking. I've rewatched many times and Data and Picard at the end has never failed to make me shed a few tears.
Lincynity
2025-08-20 14:09:12 +0000 UTC“What was that?” “Death.” “What kind?” “Instant.”
Scott McClintock
2025-08-20 14:06:05 +0000 UTCTo clarify, I don't think the time distortions that emanated externally from Vandor would have been as dramatic as seen on the enterprise or in the lab, as they were closer to the epicenter. When the Enterprise was farther away, during fencing practice, the distortion was just a delay, or as Riker said " a hiccup". I imagine the distortion's magnitude would decrease the further away it hit.
hurryupmode
2025-08-20 14:04:17 +0000 UTCIf yall liked the crazy timey wimey stuff you'd definitely enjoy the 3 seasons of Future Man
Broseph Terbias, 8th Level Dudenbrah of the Salty Lemonaders
2025-08-20 14:04:02 +0000 UTCI really like how perfunctory and pedestrian Tasha's death is. it's something that could happen to anyone on any starship at any time. It adds stakes to future encounters, even routine ones. It also shows how dangerous deep space exploration actually is. Also it's true to life. Sometimes shit happens and people die. They're here one moment and gone the next. I thought doing Tasha the way they did was actually pretty bold for those reasons.
funky weapon
2025-08-20 13:53:25 +0000 UTCRelative Bearing: When setting a course, they base there bearing on the ship's current orientation. For example, "Helm, set course one two zero mark twenty five" means turning 120 degrees right (starboard) and raising the nose 25 degrees. Any time the course is set over 180 the turn is to the left (port) and the degrees are 360 - the number. ie. "Helm set course two eight zero" would mean go port 80 degrees. It is the same with the mark number with anything over 180 meaning nose down 360 - number. Galactic Coordinate System: Star Trek depicts the Milky Way galaxy as divided into four quadrants: Alpha, Beta, Gamma, and Delta. It uses a coordinate system, with a meridian running through the galactic center and Earth's Solar System with references mention a standard galactic X, Y, and Z position Earth's Sol system is designated as Sector 0, 0, 1, serving as an arbitrary reference point for mapping other sectors.
Patrick - Excelsior
2025-08-20 13:52:17 +0000 UTCYes, George. I was a kid watching these episodes as they aired, and Tasha's death was a real shock. All the way up to the credits, I was waiting for the reveal, the rug pull, the switcheroo.
Gary Fixler
2025-08-20 13:46:48 +0000 UTCRe: the transporter being used as a weapon, I always thought it would be a great demoralizing weapon to beam all the crap out of everyone's intestines and onto, say, the bridge of an attacking Klingon vessel. Probably too gross for 80s TV, though.
Gary Fixler
2025-08-20 13:43:36 +0000 UTCStar Trek Enterprise does have the transporter. But it is very unreliable. There is at least one episode where it comes to the rescue.
WayneC
2025-08-20 13:27:32 +0000 UTCUp until Denise decided to leave the writers were seriously considering killing off Troi.
Jonathan
2025-08-20 13:20:04 +0000 UTCwoot. more Star Tracks!
Jeremy Cheely
2025-08-20 13:18:32 +0000 UTCGeorge's idea of the transporter being too convenient, and them having to break it all the time for the sake of the story reminds me of when cell phones came out. After about the tenth movie with all the people checking their phones and saying "I don't have any bars", I sighed, and realized this was the new world, and every movie would have to go through this, unless it was a period film. Someone later made a supercut: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIZVcRccCx0
Gary Fixler
2025-08-20 13:10:47 +0000 UTCOops, just one I guess. From what I remember, Denise Crosby didn't think the show was going to amount to anything and asked to be written off the show. Unfortunately for her, she didn't have any bigger role and will always be known as Lt. Tasha Yar, even in 2025.
Cory Garron
2025-08-20 13:00:36 +0000 UTCI love skin of evil for one good reason.
Richard
2025-08-20 12:52:10 +0000 UTCAs others will probs explain better than I, Denise Crosby asked to be released from her role as Tasha since she was dissatisfied with how the character developed. Gene Roddenberry directly gave his blessing for her departure, and it’s worth remembering that season 1 wasn’t a guaranteed success. We have the benefit of hindsight of its legacy and knowing what it became, so it’s hard to get in that headspace of how it was engaged with at the time. Personally had the same “taken-abackness” at her demise because I had no awareness Tasha wasn’t in later seasons - I was introduced to TNG without that precursory knowledge of her fate too. Defs still remember how jarring it was. Anyway it leads to the growth for some other characters and I will shut my Aussie mouth now to not divulge anymore haha
JakeyShakeyBakeyBoy
2025-08-20 12:50:53 +0000 UTCDenise Crosby wasn't happy with the direction Tasha Yar's character was going, and asked to be written out. Skin of Evil is the result.
Lamprey Fellatio
2025-08-20 12:48:19 +0000 UTC"Symbiosis" was filmed after "Skin of Evil," though scheduled to air in the reverse order, obviously. Denise could be seen waving goodbye in the background as Picard and Beverly left the cargo bay, as that was her actual last scene.
Data Cable
2025-08-20 12:18:21 +0000 UTCThe look on Simone's face as she realised which episode 1x23 was! :D
Adam Barry
2025-08-20 12:17:00 +0000 UTCTheir expressions in the thumbnail say it all. 🤣
Brandon
2025-08-20 12:15:37 +0000 UTCYAY! You guys should do the quick blooper video at the end of each season as your "post credits" scene. Some of the memes you have seen out there have actually come from these. Were you guys planning on going all the way through to modern trek as well? I feel like George would love Strange New Worlds!
Ricky Patton
2025-08-20 12:07:49 +0000 UTCHey, I just joined the Patreon and I'm curious whether they've mentioned how this will be released on YT, i.e. all episodes edited down or only their top picks like TOS. Thanks!
Hammerdash
2025-08-20 12:07:02 +0000 UTCTwo big eps this week, IIRC.
Cory Garron
2025-08-20 12:06:36 +0000 UTCBaytown outlaws 🙌
Korpse
2025-08-20 12:03:40 +0000 UTCYay! Star Trek Day! 🛸👽🧞♂️
Gary Fixler
2025-08-20 12:03:15 +0000 UTC
