Star Trek TNG: 107-109

Most people don't know that some of these episodes are recycled scripts from the planned Star Trek II series, which had the original cast reprising their roles.

RJ aka LEMental

"no....the sphere is mine!"

David Perkins

It is really interesting to see people who take these Season 1 episodes so seriosuly and discuss them so seriously because all these episodes are like a 3/10 and laughably bad for me

Fedora The Explorar

I don't think you ever really get used to stress in general. You get somewhat accustomed to specific types of stress, but that's it. So I'm glad George is not emperor of the Earth. School itself gave me enough stress and trauma. ;)

Guts

Here in the UK I don't think the word "hell" was ever a no no. We don't have the same level of interfering religious nonsense as the US.

Joe

When the ferengi beamed onto the bridge, it was their teleport, as you can tell from the visual effect. It wasn't the enterprise that beamed them onboard.

RSteele

In the Battle episode, I do appreciate that for all the usual technobabble in the show Data did actually describe pretty accurately how a checksum works.

dys

the Ferengi are just silly in TNG but they get really fleshed out with pretty cool characters in Deep Space 9 :)

overdev

I think what George is trying to day is, there were too many blonds on that plant to care for them all the same 🤣

LazyBoy Stays Up Late Watchin Video Tapes

Maybe I'm getting things confused, but I thought Tasha Yar said there was no mention of the death penalty serving as punishment for every crime when she did her research? When she came to Riker and the others later and started to report that whole law to him (starting by saying, "They have some strange laws here, sir") that was after two of the Edo were talking to her about their laws and told her about it. So, when she initially did her research into the planet to make sure the crew would be safe, there was nothing stipulating the way punishment works, but then, through her discussion with the Edo, she discovered the death penalty law, went to report it, but made it there too late, and wasn't able to finish what she'd been about to say.

Raven Dark

Like the hell they can! Ah the TNG square pillows in the future when they need you to be seen for the camera - to hell with comfort! Interesting that the tone shift of the future Enterprise computer voice, sounds different in episode 9 then later

SpankTheMonk

A a future where a headache is so rare because of future wizardry that it maybe is a severe condition warning is interesting. Where now it is a common symptom of anything everything. The teleportation to the platform should be consistent but they also have to cost review the show as it is even more expensive with TNG early on until it gains consistent popularity. So combining the transport to the bridge where the principle cast are. Rules of the Ferenghi desire for the best deal have yet to be defined, their acquisition will come eventually 😉. Love the electronic score and camera work on episode 109.

SpankTheMonk

Glad George is enjoying his first watch, notwithstanding his bizarre reluctance to start the show with a Picard catchphrase

Tall Paul

Yeah, episode 7 was DC Fontana writing. Very flimsy premise, one that would have better suited The Animated Series.

hurryupmode

Oh man, these discussions really take me back to when TNG was in first run and my friends and I would have very similar talks about the episodes and morality and its universal nature (or lack thereof) sitting in a Waffle House over coffee for HOURS. I can't express how awesome it is to see how timeless the effects of TOS/TNG really are on a cultural level.

Maerandir Eldar

About the transporter room: I think If you beam to another location it is similar to two beam jumps. first brings you to the transporter and second to the new place. Thats it. Just like it was in TOS just without the materializing step in between.

Dioskur

Early TNG often falls into the trap where writers feel that an A/B plot is almost always necessary. Sometimes the A is the big sci-fi plot and B plot is character driven or vice versa. They grow out of it a bit over time but it was pretty common for this era in TV. It can certainly hurt some episodes as one plot can typically be just a sub standard time filler. I also feel like they were trying to cater to hard sci-fi fans while bringing in the more character story driven audience as well. Which leads to a lot of A/B plot scripts, rewrites and multiple writers.

s0rd3z

As I remember these episodes, I don't remember them fondly. But, re-watching them with the 2 of you who are seeing them with fresh eyes reminds me how I first received them. On first watch, I remember thinking they were ok with some a bit better than that. As I recall, it was largely the novelty of finally seeing new Trek (in any form) on a weekly basis that helped elevate them. If I really hated it, I would definitely not recorded each episode on VHS -- and manually edited out the commercials on-the-fly. Then, during the week, rewatch each episode multiple times. As Simone commented, it's only in retrospect with future seasons in comparison that I dislike the first couple of seasons.

Ron

Frozen yogurt is the quintessential human creation according to The Good Place. "You take something that's great and make it a little bit worse so you can have more of it." Or, you know, you "feel" like it's not as bad for you as icecream because it doesn't taste as good so that justifies having more of it and I guess not saying that out loud is a part of the humanity of it all. Talking of working in a kitchen makes me think of The Bear, maybe a show you all want to watch at some point. I think of it as Ted Lasso in that it's about people working to do the things they love at the highest professional level, and also the complete opposite of Ted Lasso in that everybody tries to scream through their problems instead of going to therapy. And instead of everyone being a millionaire they're all in crushing debt. It sounds like it would be interesting to see Star Trek deal with something like cat-bear people who need to kill and eat lizard people to stay alive, but I think it's largely a solved problem: If you can't adjust to the federation's standards for peaceful living and eat replicator food, you just don't get to play with the adults in the federation. Ah yes, everyone remembers episode 8, or "the one with the uncomfortably Aryan planet." Such goofy times. Me, a blond blue-eyed Swede watching this at 16 was like "I've seen about ten people of color in my entire life but even I can tell this planet is weird." But I don't know, maybe they were trying to be sensitive about who they cast as scantily clad sensuous hedonists after that earlier episode with the planet of Black misogynists? Trying, at least. Science fact: If you're breathing heavily you're burning more calories than usual. Exhaling carbon dioxide is how the body loses carbs. Exercise is good for you! (Screw dieting though.) The prime directive is a sweet concept and I wish the show, and Picard especially, was more consistent about following it. The idea is that the federation understands it is not perfect - that better things are possible. Allowing civilizations to grow in their own way, without imposing your values and technologies on them, even if you just have to watch as they destroy themselves a thousand times, in the hope that the 1001st time they'll find a better way of doing things and teach it to you. But in practice it's basically never more than something to justify not solving "every" problem with photon torpedos, except when they forget to. I like to say fruit flies is the most evolved species of all multicellular life forms. They go through a generation in 6-8 hours, they've lived through so many iterations they've literally streamlined their genes down to six chromosomes for optimal reproduction. Their sperm is longer than their whole body! Since all evolution does is, through the slow process of trial and error by random mutations, finding the form of life that's most fit to survive and pass on its genes within its environment. All bacteria are miles ahead in that contest, of course.

Amelie W

"Justice" and its exploration of the Prime Directive was interesting. As I understand it, the Prime Directive prohibits Starfleet officers from interfering with the natural development of lesser societies especially pre-warp drive-capable societies, like Edo. This whole misunderstanding could have been avoided had Picard understood it to mean that as well. Visiting a planet that doesn't have knowledge of space travel is never going to have a good outcome: "Hi, we're extraterrestrials. We're exhausted from invading a nearby planet. Do you mind if we hang out with you for a few days?" Once you've decided it'll be fine, though, it seems like a worse idea to transport a citizen of that society, a society that has yet to reach outer space, into orbit aboard the Enterprise, to point at an inter-dimensional vessel, and ask, "Is that your God? I'm going to take your genuflection and prayer as a Yes." All things considered, what happened wasn't that bad. But I think we can all agree that the real villain of this episode is Lt. Yar. Tasha reviewed Edo's laws and reported to the captain that though quirky in places, they posed no threat to the crew. She later says, "My bad: I never looked at the penalties or penalty—death for every violation. Sorry, Wes. This one's on me." This seems like a serious dereliction of duty.

Simon Pegged Me

I almost got it this time, I said "Space..." just a millisecond, no, a nanosecond, after Picard I swear 🖖 and almost spilled my drink. I just hesitated I guess because I'm just not comfortable speaking over the great Sir Patrick Stewart. Yeah. But I am having fun with these episodes, I don't remember any of them except that first Q episode, that one stuck with me for some reason, I think I'll understand why later because I don't remember those either. But yeah I agree with Simone that Worf, who became one of my favorite characters, is kind of goofy so far. Also, I was thinking why the future season uniforms are better, it's definitely the padding. They had the shoulder pads here, but they definitely started padding the uniforms, specifically the chest on the male characters, to give them a more puffed out physique later. I could be wrong, just seems so to me 🤷‍♂️ Edit: apparently it wasn't padding but just a looser more comfortable fit for the cast, anyway it looked better too, and why I still have always preferred loose fitting clothing, never worn skinny jeans in my life even when I was skinny, I always thought they were an abomination, and I'm cracking up that a lot of my Gen Z coworkers are wearing the big baggy pants I used to wear at that age, which also don't really look good and can be impractical; ah the cycles of fashion.

MacGuffinStuff

I agree the characters are still settling in but most of the "cheese/camp/farce" aspects of TOS were introduced by others, not Roddenberry and he reportedly hated it. The problem with Roddenberry is he thought emancipation of women began and ended with sexual liberation, bra burning and the Summer of Love. He was fundamentally sexist. As an example according to DC Fontana (in the Center Seat documentaries) he amongst others didn't want Worf as a character, they adamantly refused his inclusion, right up until she wrote Yar taking command of the saucer section. Then they said they didn't want a woman taking command so they demanded she add Worf to do it then pretended including a Klingon was their great idea. The clinging to the TOS format of three male leads and a minor supporting cast was the biggest problem while Roddenberry was in creative control rather than the balance of comedy in episodes. It gradually transitioning to an ensemble cast after he stepped back was a big shift in the dynamic of the show that let characters have more development.

Lincynity

Are you sure about that? Because I remember watching interviews around and before the show first aired where they talked like they were supposed to be the great menace of TNG. Then after they appeared they were described in articles as "the Jerry Lewis's of space" Armin Shimmerman has shouldered a lot of the blame for the goofiness of the Ferengi in their first appearance, in this episode they were much more of a sinister credible threat but it was too late. I think they pivoted to playing them more for laughs later than you think.

Lincynity

I love the moral view discourse that arises from watching Star Trek 💛

LazyBoy Stays Up Late Watchin Video Tapes

I often think I love Star Trek in spite of Gene Roddenberry. Most of the things I love about it, he didn't want in the show and much of what I've always found cringy or irritating is thanks to his influence.

Lincynity

Episode 108 had the elements of why TNG tv show is peak Star Trek ideas and ideals. Picard’s sit down with Data is a gem of this that future episodes embrace fully. George getting deep on the parameters of different species and world’s laws. The Prime directive is a guideline and guiding principle for Starfleet and the Federation. It is not super clear cut on everything. Also at this point it still being worked on for the writers and cannon. Picard representing the Starfleet/Human/Federation I believe didn’t overtly or implicitly knock their laws. Also someone below has a really in-depth post on the understanding of human morals and you should check it out if you haven’t. As for the TV show and its audience at the time (most countries that got the show) they are translating our current philosophy on things like capital punishment and food consumption. Even in 107 Riker didn’t admonish the dog aliens, Tasha was even instructed to assist with their meal requests. But as with any guest on a neutral ground you find a balance of civility. In this case the Federation and Starfleet with which to work. Also it’s a cool sci-fi show they be trying 🖖

SpankTheMonk

Ah it’s the elementary level introduction of Sherlock Data 😺. Simone’s cat purring excitingly at the apex of episode 107. Storing a full human pattern in the computers is intensive and a data storage issue. Like Simone mentioned I believe it is also typically just the last people to transport. 108 - I wonder if the white and blonde aliens live in the northern or southern hemisphere of their planet or the only recently moved to a location. Since on our planet lighter skin is adapted to more hemispherical polar locations. Judging by the burns on one of the males it seems they moved to the location. Also this is the first time they use the LA Water treatment facility as generic location and then Starfleet Academy. You can visit the location as they have that Japanese garden still.

SpankTheMonk

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SpankTheMonk

I think you might have the first comment on the shirt pull 🫶

SpankTheMonk

EPS conduits for sure are the issue

SpankTheMonk

Super dark ☹️

SpankTheMonk

you literally can google the numbers, very easily, to show its not true. it logistically and evolutionarily makes no sense. you feel more tired after running a mile than walking, because you exert more energy and use more muscles. thus burn more calories. if both activities burns the same calories, we would evolve to always run. or are you actually telling me you would feel exactly the same after running 1 mile vs after walking 1 mile. just fundamental laws of thermodynamics....

robodong

It is true that walking a mile burns the same amount of calories as running a mile and some experts say that it actually has more health benefits because it is less time that you are at rest. So your circulatory system is at a higher level of activity for a longer period of time.

Stevtrek

I will bounce like Tigr then!

SpankTheMonk

RE: the plot line of the delegates in episode 7; TNG is full of b-plots. Not all are bangers, but you do get some really good background lore about the universe from most of them.

Drew Acheson

I think as a kid I was terrified of the idea of a death sentence for a kid. Very surreal feeling.

SpankTheMonk

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SpankTheMonk

Yes plasma coils! And what about the deflector?

SpankTheMonk

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SpankTheMonk

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SpankTheMonk

I feel for the extras who don’t have speaking parts, like the medical officer thrown by Warf who couldn’t reply after the Dr asked how was he. But as I understand on syndicated TV show the production company would have to pay royalties for a long time. I once talked to someone about the potential revolution with lab grow meat and they gave a similar reply - eww. I thought that was so strange since you won’t have to slaughter any animals. 🤷. Episode 107 I like that both of the male and female, I presume, both wear the same booty shorts - balanced like all things.

SpankTheMonk

I'm so extremely excited that Cinebinge is going on this TNG journey... AND dying inside for them to be on Season 3+ already, haha.

ScotchBeard78

Oh the kitchen talk--I work in a commercial kitchen. Its at a senior living facility and I've been doing it for 9 years. The place I worked at before this, my boss was the quintessential restaurant boss--SO inappropriate! I'm thankful that the place I work at now has standards, and nothing like that is permitted. But yes, I have gotten completely used to cleaning gross drains under the sink, digging through the garbage disposal when someone throws chicken bones in there or something, cleaning mold off of so many things in our cooler (its not well made AT ALL) and just in general doing so many dishes. We just had our inspection this week, and we passed with flying colors, so YAY us! Honestly, our standards are very high, its the cleanest kitchen I've ever seen, and we work pretty hard to keep it that way.

Jenny MacRunnel

(Without spoiling anything) The Rite of Ascension (if you know, you know) could be viewed differently based on the perceptions and biases of the viewer, and without a non-interference policy, well, things could get very messy.

Deano 42

I think the Ferengi were supposed to be a villain for a "new generation". Whereas TOS Starfleet were more like the Jocks, TNG Starfleet are the Scholars, so while the Klingon matched the old Starfleet brawn for brawn, the Ferengi were supposed to be more intellectual villains that were a threat through their cleverness and schemes, but with them also being single-mindedly devoted to profit, they kind of have a giant weakness that makes them predictable, and I think that's the biggest reason why they never really felt threatening (plus they just seem to get dumber as the series goes on).

Simone's Coconut Squire

I think i remember an old Seinfeld episode that the whole thing was about everyone loving the frozen yogurt because they thought it was healthy and come to find out just the opposite.

Pendergasted

I think it's also canon that it's safest to beam from one transporter pad to another, a little less safe to beam from a transporter pad to anywhere, and then least safe to beam from one random place to another. It doesn't really matter that much because transporters are pretty safe at this point, but that's what I read once to explain why they tend to use the transporter pad/room if they can.

KnittingHaven

You may have caught that Daimon is a Ferengi Rank. What you may not have known was that Daimon Bok first had to pass though the rank of Choy :P

Simone's Coconut Squire

Not sure if this is helpful, but I just finished episode 6, and I noticed the timer in your video went over (at least) 51 minutes, which is weird considering the entire episode is only 45 minutes (and that includes end credits). I wonder if this is somehow related to the sync issues?

Cory Garron

Speaking of working in kitchens, y'all should add "The Bear" to your potential TV show list

Flerb

Have you guys seen the YT edit of the opening credits for this show where they make the theme music sound like it's coming from a speak on the Enterprise? It's pretty great.

Drew Acheson

I mentioned this on the YT video but posting here just in case. The sync issue is still present in the Patron YT video, the background video is out of sync with your reaction. I'm happy to watch the no sync version, but just so it's said.

Drew Acheson

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9arcEhyv_ZM Gene always wanted TNG to be a lot... Sexier... than it ever was. "Justice" originally was supposed to be having full on orgies in the background but he got big footed.

Robert Cooper

Wednesday is a fantastic series but I thought I heard Simone mention she watched it around the time they watched The Addams Family movies?

REDR58

The shirt thing is totally the Picard maneuver, and if you watch you'll also see frequent use of the Riker maneuver, where he'll approach a chair and rather than just sitting down he'll throw his leg up and over the backrest and sit lol.

Andrew Hussey

In the discussion on the episode "Justice", George brings up interesting points with respect to how our conceptions and feelings about morality are to some extent dependent on our biological circumstances - and of course the necessities of our lives. First - I love how Trek inspires these discussions about ethics... it was a big inspiration for me in becoming interested and eventually graduating in philosophy. George is of course correct that these things have an influence, and with the point about a species biologically necessitating the consumption of live prey he basically states the well-known precept in ethics and metaethics that "ought implies can" - no moral duty can exist without a general possibility to fulfil it. But still - I think Simone is right as well. There is no a priori reason why being the same biological species as us or not would make a difference in ethical principles - just *perceptions* and cultural embeddings of ethical principles. And of course customs and laws go way beyond basic basic ethics. There have been and are in any case very different cultures on earth which exert normative pressures and have vastly different ethics, yet we do not succumb to complete moral relativism. Complete moral relativism is definitely not the only viable theory, not even in a universe as diverse as Trek. Obviously the etiology of value-systems is often to a large extent dependent on historical circumstance - but most of the arguments of Aristotle, Kant, or Rawls/Scanlon apply also in a universe as vast and diverse as Star Trek's. The fact that not everyone under all circumstances would or can act to perfectly align with some moral value does not negate the value - nor does the fact that evolution can create situations where aligning actions with certain values is nigh impossible - and nothing prevents meta-ethical theories where moral goods entail different duties in different situations. This isn't the place for an entire essay - but to use a simplistic example: The value of sapient life can be recognized also by a species who evolved to eat live prey. Alternatives might be sought and found to meet the chemical / nutritional needs from non-sapient life, or replicated material. Intentionally causing suffering to sentient beings can constitute moral harm even in worlds where there are obligate carnivores. It is of course still true that we cannot measure everything with the same yardstick across the galaxy in Star Trek (and that is also a point this show makes) - but more importantly, it makes the very Kantian point that all sentient life is valuable, and all sapient life has commonalities which permits it to recognize that value - and the value of both its commonalities and differences with other sapient life.

Michael Bauer

Thanks for the syncing heroics George, it worked great.

Geoff Richards

thanks for your hard work

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I am pretty sure it's a paramount+ issue. I am not sure if it "resyncs" itself as it buffers or what it does but that app has always given me frequent issues when I have used it in the past.

s0rd3z

I don’t know if anyone has mentioned it, but I may know what the problem is. I have paramount plus as well, and sometimes if it is acting up, it will skip ahead a second or two while you are watching. It is often barely noticeable unless they cut off a sentence. I think that happened here. When I watched this morning the recording skipped a line about the planet Parliament, but when you re-uploaded it, the line was back. It’s the same reason the subtitles will get unsynced, because they too begin to skip ahead on the same episodes. It doesn’t happen with every episode on Paramount+ but it doesn’t happen every 4-5 episodes for me. But if you rewatch or rewind the episode the skips usually are gone. I do not know if there is a consistent way to stop this from happening or if there is something specific that causes it, but I am wondering if that is your issue.

Emptysea93

First season was fine for me as the show was still trying to find its feet, the main difference was that the early shows were made somewhat in the style of TOS, they were a bit more campy so people would feel that nostalgia vibe, and it worked it got people watching and it was renewed, then TNG added all sort of depth and wonders season by season and it just got better and better.

P S

The biggest problem with Season 1 was that Gene Roddenberry had way too much direct involvement with it. And while he may have had a great idea for the core of Trek, he didn't always have the best ideas for episodes..... AND.... he was also a weird pervy horndog. For instance he was adamant that a sex scene with an android happen at one point (and it did in the Naked Now). His ideas weren't always the best, for instance he was also insistent Patrick Stewart wear a hairpiece since his vision of the future meant that they had "cured" baldness (and you can find early shots of Stewart wearing a hairpiece in uniform). Fortunately others were able to convince him that particular idea was a bad one. "Justice" has Roddenberry's fingerprints allllll over it.

Jomero

W Wednesday S 2 starting soon..I'd like to request Wednesday S 1. It. has its haters but I found it very enjoyable and think you would as well and would be a fun and easy 8 ep reaction

Bella Blue

Nope, the room must be devoid as much light as possible. I even bought those little dimming/blackout stickers to cover up all the intensely bright LEDs on any and all electronic equipment in my bedroom. I even covered up the green LED on my smoke / CO detector that flashes like a lighthouse at night!

REDR58

Okay, "Lonely Among Us": Speaking of Sherlock Holmes, I HIGHLY recommend you watch the definitive portrayal of Holmes by Jeremy Brett in the series "The Adventures of Sherlock Homes" (1984). Everyone is going to tell you to watch Benedict Cumberbatch's "Sherlock" and that's fine, at least for the first season or two. But Jeremy Brett's "The Adventure's of Sherlock Holmes" is truly something special. It feels like the peace delegates storyline was simply padding. The alien prosthetics were custom made for this episode, not just some stuff they had lying around. "Justice" I like how the idea of “perfection” and “paradise” is all blonde, white women and men. I mean, where are the redheads? Seriously though, come on. Even in 1989 this is blatant with having no one of color in the episode. I’d love to see the casting call sheet for this episode. Lots of bad wigs too. Brenda Bakke who is the main female character "Rivan" with the very bad wig in this episode was also in "Hot Shots Part Deux" and "L.A. Confidential" playing Lana Turner. The Prime Directive doesn’t seem to consider that *any contact* with a new society or species will affect it. Species X simply knowing that Starfleet and The Federation exists when the moment before they did not already changes them. But that's part of an old discussion of the merits of the Prime Directive. The Battle The Ferengi in “The Last Outpost” each had the forehead tattoo as well. I find it odd that the mysterious approach of an old Federation starship doesn’t spawn more concern immediately. You don’t just let casually let an unknown vessel get close like this. Frank Corsentino who plays Bok will show up again twice more playing different Ferengi. Saying “hell” on TV and movies has been a thing for decades, since at least the 1950s. It’s hardly an expletive. Speaking of "A Christmas Carol," check out the version of the story with Patrick Stewart. I think the Ferengi were portrayed perfectly fine here. You guys have a very interesting interpretation of Q! More about that later.

REDR58

Have you tried reversing the polarity of the projector matrix? The subharmonics might produce a positive tachyon flux..

fforw

Harsh but fair (I say partially in jest...).

REDR58

I love when Simone gives a look to the camera when she sees something that she can't mention. George thinks S01E07 is just a bad episode, and for the most part he's right, but Simone knows what seeds were sown for a couple of fan favorite recurring character arcs. To avoid spoilers, I'll have to leave it as a mystery.

Thomas Yanez

On George asking how do people fall asleep with noise and lights on and not pitch black silence. Pretty simple really, I find it really hard sometimes to fall asleep in perfect silence with nothing but my own thoughts. My mind will just run and I struggle to fall asleep.

Jacob

D. T. Nelson

With regard to George's point on waterboarding and war crimes... I was told in the army that it's not waterboarding if you use diesel. Might be a technicality...

HansD

My favorite quote about frozen yogurt (vs. ice cream) from my favorite show, The Good Place (that you should definitely react to). "There's something so human about taking something great and ruining it a little so you can have more of it."

R. Chang

About the laws and directives; if i'm torturing you even if you don't feel it as torture or you don't see it as torture under the law your feeling doesn't really matters, the fact is that i'm torturing you. If a species want to be part of the federation there are rules and laws they have to follow. No slavery for example is followed by every planet under the federation.

Juanjomaster !

OK....the Ferangi get FAR better after season 1. FAR FAR BETTER...same with Q. Id love to talk/hint about things too calm in many a show and about the additional NON SPOILER lore for Star Trek universe

DasBigUn

A better ending to 108 would be after they beam Wes away the object nukes the planet and says "That crop is ruined. I'll have to start again." instead of literally nothing. It's like they wrote themselves into a corner and couldn't think of how to end it so Picard says something and its allll cool.

megamoo chilli

Regarding character design: I mentioned it in the comments in "Encounter at Farpoint" but it's worth a re-telling as George (and Simone) must've missed it: The first season Design suffers from conflict between Gene Roddenberry's old-school / stuck-in-1960s-mentality- cheese/camp/farce "ludicrosity" -- and the more contemporary, thoughtful, complex and serious writers/developers that were new. The characters in Season 1 are not yet designed. The characters are not yet complete. Writers and directors will write Data knowing X,Y,Z in one episode and then in the next will imply he doesn't. Same with what a transporter or holodeck can or can't do. .... Give it time. There is a reason many fans start at Season 3 when Gene Roddenberry is no longer pushing his agenda, and the characters are finally fully designed (if not yet developed), and the writers are (mostly) all on the same page (so to speak).

W_E_Ray (Dungeons-Dragons Grognard since '81)

I've always found Justice a sad episode, a golden opportunity to offload Wesley squandered. What a waste.

Lincynity

(Not a spoiler).. George's thoughts about different species tolerance of what is considered torture is addressed in a Season 3 episode. I'll give no further info on that unless asked directly (in private), because I really don't want to spoil anything, especially since George thinks about and picks up on this stuff. And yes, again he's right.. about animals acting morally differently. Blue Footed Boobies (the bird, calm down), will happily discard their second child to feed the stronger one instead, leaving the younger/weaker one to starve and die. But to us, it's like... "you have literally two children... look after them both.

G Lam

I'd like to wait until the actor arrives as a guest star in one of these 1st Season episodes -- and see if he gets it then.

W_E_Ray (Dungeons-Dragons Grognard since '81)

I don't think energy efficiency would be the main issue given the crazy power they can generate, but I can see it being safer. Transporter accidents are definitely a thing, and it's been so long since I watched TNG I'm not sure but I tend to think of direct place to place as more of an emergency thing, and a one step, to and from pad transit is usually the preferred route, especially for people. Of course ultimately it comes down what serves the plot in any specific episode.

Ian Tellam

Cassie and Kat (Popcorn in Bed and Gallifrey Gals) had the same fun-trouble. Jen got it almost immediately -- My interpretation is that it is Jen's music background: She is technically aware of the music parts and uses that as the que. Cassie and Kat and Simone, apparently, don't have musicology as a technical education. ....My guess.

W_E_Ray (Dungeons-Dragons Grognard since '81)

Regarding the transporter... You can beam from and to a transporter pad, so the Ferenghi just beamed from their ship onto the bridge. You can also beam place to place - but technically the transporter signal is still being routed via a transporter pad somewhere. So basically you get beamed from a location, to the pad, and then onto the destination - but it doesn't bother materializing you at the pad - more like being routed through a server. Another thing that's interesting about transporters is that although your body is dematerialized and sent as energy and then rebuilt, your consciousness remains intact and active through the whole process in real time. Because your consciousness is considered pure data (according to the metaphysics of this show at least) it doesn't need to be destroyed, just transmitted and then reunited with your physical body at the destination. You can form thoughts, perceive things and even communicate to some degree while being transported. You literally are the same person (mentally) the whole time and it avoids the 'Prestige' type questions of are you really 'you' at the other end.

Ian Tellam

they already did this, years ago. can be found with search bar on main page.

robodong

Movie suggestion: "Tenet" from 2020. Probably has been suggested a million times already, but it is a really interesting movie. 😁

howtocookazombie (Stan)

Simone's not wrong..... kinda. In terms of physics, travelling 1km uses the same energy regardless of how quickly you do it (not accounting for crazy high speed where wind-resistance becomes a big factor... or relativity at crazy speeds). But yeah, humans are squishy, and running takes more out of us unfortunately. It takes more muscles to run than walk. Kangaroos have this nailed though... check in with them... they figured out how to go fast and hardly burn any extra grass fuel.

G Lam

Thank you for your efforts in quickly fixing these synch issues.

Niklas Ekman

Start Trek transporter rules are all over the place. They're capable of beaming someone from any location in range to any other location in range. In show lingo, this is called "Site to site" transport. Since we know that they can beam from pad to anywhere and anywhere to pad, it's conceivable that site-to-site transport just chains these without the pad re-materialization phase. As to why they don't always do this, it's implied at times to be more energy efficient or safer to use the pad, so they do so when it's not an emergency or when it isn't time critical (if you're on the ship, just walking to the pad has got to be more energy efficient than beaming you there). But they're not really consistent with it, so you just kind of have to accept it.

R. Chang

It's so interesting to watch these episodes again, decades later. So much forgotten stuff, so much made up memory. I remember the infraction as Wesley stepping off the path, and the kids being upset, and Wesley standing on the grass, confused why it was a problem, and I even recall a little sign next to him that said "keep off the grass." I had it all jumbled. When they first beam down to the planet, they all beam down onto grass, and I said "wait, what?" Then they all ran around on the grass for a while, and I realized I didn't really remember exactly how this all played out. I completely forgot about the zone thing, too.

Gary Fixler

That sync thing is wild, but thank you for trying so hard to get it working!

Maura Gillies

You guys I have a sink issue, when I use hot water it drains fine but when I use cold water it goes something like wugg-wugg-wugg-wugg

JD Nevesytrof

Time for my Wednesday treat!

dasgrove

we need to bet on when Simone gets the timing of the intro right haha :D

overdev

Yeah, famously liberals, lefists and socialists never support local businesses. Co-ops, for example, just came into existence out of nothing.

Patrick

I've had this issue that, sometimes, a movie played slightly faster or slower (at normal running speed) than the exact same movie edited for a full lengh-reaction. Forcing to resync the video every now and then in order to correct the couple of seconds lost or gained overtime. But why?? this I never understood. Is it a slight variation in the actual running speed of movies from one platform to the other? A bias of the editing software? But one second is one second right? ^^

Guillaume Huet_rennibou

In terms of fixing the audio sync issues, have you tried reversing the polarity of the primary coils in the EPS manifold? It could be a fluctuation buildup in the secondary phase transducers.

Gary Fixler

Let us test watch next week's episodes just to make sure 😁

Andrew Ramos

Thanks for all of your hard work! Now to watch TNG with brunch.

REDR58

Appreciate both of you and everything yall do for this channel!

MikeBdrx

Of course people are going to hate others over economic systems. Economic systems create social dynamics, cultural attitudes, and political processes. If those economic systems are based on the destruction of other economic systems, then they are a threat to the social dynamics, cultural attitudes, and political processes of the adherents of those economic systems. For example, I own a business, every socialist, leftist, communist, and "liberal" is a threat to the business that I have built, because their entire economic system is built on taking it, and the benefits of it, away from me. Why wouldn't I hate that?

Chase Lonnergan

Did you not see George responding to the majority of those comments?

Kane Is Able

yep its very odd. no idea why it starts off wrong but becomes fine at random points over time. the version we watched is the exact same file too, with the paramount logo and all.

George Simone

I can't even tell you how much we appreciate all your hard work!

Robban6948

I can't believe the update isn't perfect! I want to speak to your manager!

Kane Is Able

that was likely a code push moment at the exact same time as attempt to access, try again now.

George Simone

I went to watch a local copy with your non-no-sync post (the way we are all used to), and weirdly, I noticed 3/4 through the episode it was synced perfectly. I didn't spot where it changed. and unfortunately can't rewatch right now to test (nor can I check whether the 2nd episode is in sync (I'm sure Simone would confirm quickly though). But the sync DOES line up later in the first of the 3 episodes

G Lam

The no sync link is also giving server errors.

Nick Scholz

So, has George clocked who's voicing Enterprise's computer yet?

Robert Gendron

George and Simone - I don't know if you realize this, but a significant portion of your viewers - specifically 60% - that are subscribed are commenting about the video possibly being out of synch.

Mastervodo

Okay guys I know you're trying to fix the technical issues but if you don't soon,.... I may have to send HECTOR SALAMANCA to be appear in an episode of Season 2. BEWARE!

W_E_Ray (Dungeons-Dragons Grognard since '81)

The lag between your reactions and the first episode seems about the same as the paramount plus logo at the start. If you trim that off it would probably be pretty close. Did you watch it without that at the start?

Adam Barry

Spoilers! Lol

John Welch

Season one is difficult for me to watch because I can't stand baby-face Riker. It's just WRONG. Riker should always have a beard.

Sokath His Eyes Uncovered

looking into sync issue right now. the file used in the edit is literally the actual file we watched. sooo why the sync is different, when its the exact file, is very perplexing. will update when figured out why.

George Simone

looking into sync issue right now. the file used in the edit is literally the actual file we watched. sooo why the sync is different, when its the exact file, is very perplexing. will update when figured out why.

George Simone

looking into sync issue right now. the file used in the edit is literally the actual file we watched. sooo why the sync is different, when its the exact file, is very perplexing. will update when figured out why.

George Simone

looking into sync issue right now. the file used in the edit is literally the actual file we watched. sooo why the sync is different, when its the exact file, is very perplexing. will update when figured out why.

George Simone

yep looking into this. the file used in the edit is literally the actual file we watched. sooo why the sync is different, when its the exact file, is very perplexing. will update when figured out why.

George Simone

The reaction seems about 5 seconds ahead of the show in the uncovered version. At least in the first episode.

Ian Tellam

To go boldly in a bold way that boldness has never bolded before!

Mastervodo

yeah im trying to figure out why its doing this... because the file used in the edit is literally the actual file we watched. sooo why the sync is different, when its the exact file, is very perplexing.

George Simone

Happy TNG day

david 0490

Looks to be the inclusion of the paramount logo intro? If I start my copy at the beginning the reaction matches, but the video is off by the length of the paramount logo.

droodly

Looks like the reaction audio and episode are out of sync in the no sync required version (ironically). Audio is a few seconds ahead of the episode, at least up until the 18 min mark. Simone's attempt at calling the start of the Captain's Oath ("Space...") in the intro is a good reference point :)

Daniel Dawson

Reaction and video seem out of sync to anyone else? Seems to be both versions.

droodly

Almost three hours of Star Trek-Cinebinge goodness! Sometimes the world is a kind place 😄

Robban6948

Finally Wednesday...

TomGas2025