Wrath of Khan - Uncovered Version
Added 2025-06-04 12:00:06 +0000 UTCComments
The best of the Star Trek films IMHO.
Marcus Hicks
2025-06-10 03:12:07 +0000 UTCOk,I'm just gotta leave this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iauuuhpSfRQ
Liquor & Swords
2025-06-07 20:36:39 +0000 UTCGut
Timothy Squiers
2025-06-07 20:26:49 +0000 UTCI remember seeing this movie in the theater when it came out. Being a fan of the original show you can imagine how much of a guy punch the end was. I thought at the time that this would be the end of the original Star Trek story. I think this may be the best movie in the franchise.
Timothy Squiers
2025-06-07 20:26:17 +0000 UTCYou must also check out Nicholas Meyer's "Time After Time: (1979), about HG Wells chasing Jack the Ripper into modern-day America via his time machine!
Kinokind
2025-06-07 17:27:54 +0000 UTCWithout a doubt, the best of the franchise. Ricardo Montalban was such a great actor. And, yes, that was his real chest! So many references. The battle sequence was really based on submarine warfare. And Kahn quoting Captain Ahab, suggesting that Kirk is his white whale, with all that that implies. And Spock and Kirk quoting "A Tale of Two Cities", where the main character sacrifices himself . . . And that's why we should read our classic, kids!!
Kinokind
2025-06-07 17:18:15 +0000 UTCI am glad you noticed Walter Koenig's silent signal that he's still possessed, which must have been painful. He doesn't blink for nearly a minute while doing a 1000 yard stare into the camera.
SnabbKassa
2025-06-06 21:00:17 +0000 UTCSomething I always found interesting is that the "KHAAAAAAN" scream is often said to be one of Shatner's overacting moments, but Kirk was *deliberately* overacting to fool Khan. Khan bought the bit, and thought he had successfully marooned Kirk—meanwhile, Kirk and Spock had already agreed on a rendezvous after 2 hours. The entire movie is about how experience matters. Khan was smart but inexperienced. Kirk was feeling his age, but he had the benefit of all those years of experience as a starship captain. But even with all those years of experience, he wasn't prepared for the loss of his best friend.
dc
2025-06-06 12:50:53 +0000 UTCWhen this movie came out in theater my dad and I went opening weekend. We missed out on the first 6 screenings. It is one of the best sequels ever. Right up there with "Empire Strikes Back". When it came out on VHS. He bought it as a "Santa gift" for the whole family. It was $39.95 then US.. With inflation it would have been $132 today and they were constantly sold out. I still have the VHS and still an awesome movie. Imagine paying $132 to see a movie in your home.
HauntSlider
2025-06-06 00:38:44 +0000 UTCI thought about that as well, but the more I think about it, the more important I think it is to watch things in order of release. There are a few examples that I can think of where world details, people, etc are revealed natually and well, making sense, without internal spoilers, only by watching the episodes and movies by release date order. Watching the evolution of Klingon culture on-screen, as the writers fleshed out the race, is one thing, a particular character's motivation that can only be appreciated as 1991's releases are watched in order, jeez, I'm trying to give a better description but literally anything I say would spoil something, so I'll leave it at that. :P
Liquor & Swords
2025-06-05 23:28:07 +0000 UTCTIL that Doohan was only two months younger than Kelley.
Dee Aitch
2025-06-05 22:28:45 +0000 UTCAccoedig to the novilization of the movie (and I think in a line cut from the movie), the kid that Scotty brought to sick bay and nearly cried about was supposed to be Scottys nephew (son of his sister)
Sven Ketelhut
2025-06-05 21:50:43 +0000 UTCSo no, the TOS movies and the TNG show are sparated by about a century or so, there is no overlap, which is why I found it a little weird that y'all aren't doing all the TOS movies before moving on to TNG.
Mickael Duncan
2025-06-05 12:42:58 +0000 UTCMost fans consider this movie the best of the TOS movies (or possibly all Trek movies in general). I personally like Star Trek 6 the best of the TOS films. For a long, long time fans have said that "Every even-numbered TOS movie is good, every odd-numbered one is not the best." And... that's kind of true. But there are some good stuff in every one of them.
Jomero
2025-06-05 06:58:10 +0000 UTCTo answer how they got him to come back, pay close attention to who the next movie is directed by...
The Real Andrew Kim
2025-06-05 06:54:37 +0000 UTCSo one more time, the nature of Star Trek The Motion Picture in essence is the truest Star Trek movie in theme of discovery and understanding. Calling it an extended episode is a bit limiting. However in the sense of a general film like Wrath of Khan it doesn’t perform as well, but with Wrath we start loosing some of the pure ideas of Star Trek like is in the opening narration. We don’t get that modus again in the movies but we get it in future series. Not a complaint just an observation, I think, and as I have said before, this ToS film series is the best series till X-Men and the first 10 years of MCU which as we know Kevin Feige is a huge Star Trek fan, and gives tribute to in Endgame 🖖
SpankTheMonk
2025-06-05 06:53:12 +0000 UTCLast time I watched it was when Leonard passed, that was like quad emotional damage. I grew up with these characters felt like losing a cool uncle.
James W.
2025-06-05 05:58:39 +0000 UTCThat is an excellent summation of the themes. It is also why I love this movie so much. You can just skate by at a surface level but like many things in Trek, there is an awful lot going on beneath the surface.
James W.
2025-06-05 05:55:49 +0000 UTCThat is the origin of revenge is a dish best served cold if I remember, in this film. Even though variants of the idea go back a while in literature. Kirk got to peacock that collar. I love from The motion picture on the hallway sets are repurposed for TNG. The black coffin looking object in the Home Alone sequence is a torpedo. William Shatner is a good actor that line at Spock’s funeral with the hesitation 😭. Also they use a torpedo prop as a coffin ⚰️ . I can’t even imagine the emotions of the people Star Trek fans leaving the theater 🥹
SpankTheMonk
2025-06-05 05:43:04 +0000 UTCYeah the best Vulcan performance outside the OG spock Leonard Nimoy, in my humble opinion is Tuvak on Voyager. Also not sure if on any of the other Patreon posting (YouTube, Patreon) postings, but the Genesis animation is the first fully 3D computer generated animation sequence with textures, lighting, and such in a feature film. Westworld had the first computer 3D graphic animation in a film, and then obviously Tron in the same year as Wrath took it to another level. Please anyone feel free to correct me if I have it wrong. 🖖
SpankTheMonk
2025-06-05 05:35:49 +0000 UTCI don’t think it was mentioned below but as you get into TNG you will get a bit more science on why they don’t often use space suits on planets beside TV/Movies needing to show their faces. Planets are usually scanned to analyze humanoid comparability. And further scanned on the surface. They also get immunizations and chemical adjustments to acclimate if necessary. Kirk out! 🖖🍻
SpankTheMonk
2025-06-05 05:20:09 +0000 UTCOk that is super cool- USA release I presume.
SpankTheMonk
2025-06-05 05:16:35 +0000 UTCLove that you released this on the anniversary of the theatrical release - June 4, 1982.
Chief
2025-06-05 04:31:53 +0000 UTCGeorge since you mentioned you knew of the name Picard I'm curious if you know yet who the actor for the character of that name is...
dys
2025-06-05 04:31:33 +0000 UTCI'm not huge Trekkie. Never been to any related conventions, haven't seen every episode of every series, never collected the toys, etc, but the scenes of Spock's death, his final words, and his funeral still make me weep, despite knowing what happens in following films. I think what's especially sad is that most of the main cast is now dead, so we're looking at actors who at the time had 17 (DeForest Kelley, aka Dr. McCoy) to 40 years (Nichell Nichols, aka Lieutenant Uhura) of life left. When I watch their films and tv episodes I see them slowly go from the prime of their lives to middle age and finally, for the ones who made it that far, to an elderly but venerable state. That I find depressing if I dwell on the subject. Looking forward to your future reactions, especially to the next 2 Star Trek films.
Deadly Ramon
2025-06-05 04:02:18 +0000 UTCThere is a line in this anime called 'Macross Plus' where one of the pilots get given shit because he keeps passing on promotions and his answer was "Too many promotions and they won't let me fly anymore." To me that encapsulates the whole issue Kirk is having. He feels an obligation to be Admiral because he knows he can be of use at that level but the part of him that just loves flying around space with his found family is what actually makes him happy. It had been so long since since seeing TMP that I forgot that it was basically the same stressors for him again but it is a recurring thing for Kirk so it makes sense. Edit: Wrath blows the doors off on pretty much every Star Trek thing. I haven't watched it in a decade or so and the finale with the loss of Spock, and David speaking with Kirk, all of it gets me every time. Just middle aged dude weeping openly at his keyboard. I love it all, but Wrath is just so damned good. I'm glad it wasn't spoiled for you guys because it was nice to see that it is still effective even on folks who don't have decades of nostalgia influencing them.
James W.
2025-06-05 03:56:32 +0000 UTCyep, we got our copy from Amazon Prime which clearly says its Directors Cut. turns out its not, but we had no way to know.
George Simone
2025-06-05 02:46:33 +0000 UTCGeorge... not sure but I think you said you watched the "director's cut" but when they inspect the engine room of Enterprise it skips over the part where they introduce Preston as Scotty's nephew, which is why he is all broken up when the kid passes. I'm not sure what other cut scenes you missed but i encourage you to check or at least see that scene. It is interesting for the Preston/Kirk interaction, which one of the lines kinda comes up in a future movie.
Christian Rennie
2025-06-05 02:43:09 +0000 UTCits a bit far down the road to know for certain, but as it stands now we likely will stagger the overlapping seasons to break up the non stop TNG a bit.
George Simone
2025-06-05 02:33:16 +0000 UTCHey, quick question: If you're doing release order, does that mean you're going to concurrently tackle Late TNG and early DS9 (as well as late DS9 and early VOY) since they were on the air at the same time? Or are you gonna tackle all of TNG, then all of DS9, then all of VOY, and stick the TNG films somewhere in there? Are you going to watch TOS Movie 5, after TNG Season 2 episode 18? and TOS Movie 6 after TNG Season 5 episode 9?
hurryupmode
2025-06-05 02:31:09 +0000 UTCI was 14 when this came out. It was pretty devastating. As far as I knew, there was no talk of more movies or anything like TNG at the time. And I've commented about this before, but I just wanted to again support your watching all the Star Trek stuff in order of release date. It's fun to watch you experience it like we did, and I think it does affect the stories some. There are things in Star Trek VI that do relate to things that we learn about the history of the Federation in TNG. There's even one character, a very small role, related to a TNG character. I think it's better to watch the stories in the order that they came out.
KnittingHaven
2025-06-05 01:16:54 +0000 UTCJames Doohan was the second-oldest member of the TOS cast, being born a month and a half after DeForest Kelley in 1920, and eleven years before Shatner and Nimoy, who were born four days apart in March 1931. 1:26:29 re George's question, that black object is a photon torpedo being loaded into the launch tube - they later use an empty torpedo casing as Spock's casket. What really hits me about this movie is that it's all of Kirk's chickens coming home to roost at the same time. There's the woman and son he left behind to go on his adventures. The man he left on a deserted planet coming back for revenge. And finally, there's the legend of James T Kirk. He spent years taking the Enterprise into one crisis after another and bringing her out again through knowledge, intelligence, tactical acumen and luck. Now he's older, slower, he's been flying a desk for years and he's lost the edge he had, but he wants to see himself as his old self, and now it bites him squarely in the quarterdeck. As he himself points out, if he'd listened to Saavik quoting regulations when they first encountered Reliant, they could have avoided the whole mess, but he had too much trust in his skill and luck and wasn't fast enough recognising the danger. As a result, Enterprise (the one true love of his life) got shot halfway to pieces and the trainees he'd assumed responsibility were killed and wounded in droves. He manages to get them out of the immediate crisis with an old-school moment of Kirk brilliance, but it still weighs on him, and ultimately it puts them in the situation that leads to Spock's death.
TOGFather
2025-06-05 01:15:36 +0000 UTC"I have been, and always shall be, your friend" always gets me
Stefan Daniw
2025-06-05 01:12:41 +0000 UTCBut because he works at Starfleet headquarters in San Francisco, he maintains an apartment there.
Cliff Adams
2025-06-05 00:57:04 +0000 UTCA year or so before this film was released, rumors were abundant that Nimoy (once again) did not want to return to Spock and that, in addition to money, required that Spock die in this film. The early greeting by Kirk to Spock "I heard you were dead" was the in-joke for Trekkies. And then Spock dies at the end. Quotes by Kirk from A Tale of Two Cities... quotes by Khan from Moby Dick -- made by Ahab in his unrelenting, impossible quest to kill the great white whale.
Cliff Adams
2025-06-05 00:53:01 +0000 UTCI don't know if you picked up on the fact the mortally wounded young man Scotty brings to the bridge is his nephew. He is introduced quickly during the inspection Kirk conducts when he first boards the Enterprise.
John Zelinka
2025-06-05 00:51:49 +0000 UTCI saw this movie with my older sister by five year, we had both watched the series and first movie. Everyone seemed to be in their groove. Yes I teared up but my sister balled her eye out. My favorite.
Robert Elliott
2025-06-05 00:19:28 +0000 UTCAh yes, the emotional damage I've been waiting for!
Ari Ramirez
2025-06-05 00:10:29 +0000 UTCThe side eye at 1:17:50 is money. 😆
Rayna & Mike Sitter
2025-06-04 23:58:46 +0000 UTCIt’s interesting that your reaction to Spock’s death is pretty much the same as mine was in 1982.
Lanny Fisher
2025-06-04 23:36:17 +0000 UTCGeorge: “He’s got some great lines.” me: it’s better in the original Klingon.
ComradQuestion
2025-06-04 22:40:01 +0000 UTCMy favorite of all Star Trek movies, even today. I had never seen the "Space Seed" episode before seeing this movie and saw this movie many more times before eventually seeing "Space Seed." I suspect this movie was also my introduction to the Star Trek movies as when I was growing up in the 1970s and 1980s I just wasn't into Star Trek at all. I hadn't even seen more than a handful of TOS episodes in general before you guys did you first watch-through of them. I'm pretty sure the remark to Kirk about "hopping galaxies" was an exaggeration. Notice in the first interiors shots of the space Station you can see a techy-looking device in the foreground with blinking red neon tubes. That prop has appeared in countless episodes of TV shows (including more Star Trek), miniseries and movies of all kinds. Yes George, the shots of Enterprise leaving dry dock are indeed recycled from The Motion Picture. But they look great, so why not. Speaking of, where do the doors of the Shuttle pod go after it docks and the doors open? Hm... It's very interesting how militaristic TMP and TWOK are compared to some of the later movies and of course TNG. I think the uniforms look great. They are a bit dressy, perhaps, but they look quite realistic for what they are. David even refers to Starfleet as "the military" twice but perhaps he's being slightly hyperbolic. George, remember the joke scene in Galaxy Quest when the ship scrapes the side of the space station as it leaves? I think it has its origins in the scenes of the Enterprise leaving dry dock slowly and deliberately. And the crew wouldn't necessarily change into a different kind of uniform before boarding the Enterprise. They are just their service uniforms. Shatner's acting is excellent in most of the movies, particularly here. I seriously doubt real naval vessels would approach each other head on like this, especially when there is less than perfect communication between them. I think a real maneuver like this would involve the ships coming alongside each other to reduce the chance of collision. The close-in combat between Enterprise and Reliant is basically reminiscent of sailing ship era naval vessels firing broadsides at each other. Even in WWI and WWII, ship combat between large vessels involved firing at ranges of dozens of kilometers. But of course the combat has to look good on screen and it does. The combat here is much more like submarines than surface ships, though. I am fairly certain that this is the last time we see the Enterprise in any of the movies or TV shows move as it does in the Z axis. A similar maneuver was seen in the Director's Cut of TMP as the Enterprise is near the V'Ger Vessel. Kirk purposely opened the front of his uniform. It didn't just flop open. Plus, it allows for the blood of the dead crewman to show up with a nice contrast to the inner white of the fabric, showing that Kirk has paid a dear price. It's funny because a kid I never notice Kirk's popped collar! They were removing the grates over the torpedo loading rails in front of the torpedo tube doors. Merritt Buttrick (David) was about 23 years old and Shatner was about 51 when this movie came out. Simone, the visual effects of the Mutara Nebula will show up again in at least one episode of TNG. I like how Joachim keeps challenging Khan but there's no sense of fear that Khan will kill him. Khan is impatient, but he respects him. The character of Joachim appears in Space Seed but is played by a different actor. I really like the look of the ships' phaser blasts in this movie. Still looks great even today. George, there is no real explanation of Khan's hand is metal or simply a glove covering an injured hand. I never had the sense that it was anything other than that. But it could be a metal hand! Khan was manipulating the Genesis Device's control box which was brought or transported to the Reliant's bridge. The Genesis device itself stayed in the ship's transporter room. The poster shows Enterprise firing on the space station, which never happened in the movie! George, I can't think of very many movies that were sequels to a specific episode of an TV series. Remember, television years ago was seen as far lesser quality than TV. I don't think "prestige" TV really showed up until the 1990s/2000s, certainly not on over the air broadcast TV. Years ago, TV actors were not held in the same regard as TV actors. That said, the "Fantasy Island" show that Ricardo Montalbán (who was from Mexico) was on was hugely popular and it ran from 1977 to 1984 in its first incarnation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_agGCODq-U Anyway, fantastic reaction and I'm so happy the ending was a surprise, even if it was devastating!
REDR58
2025-06-04 22:03:44 +0000 UTCFor many the best ST movie and definitely almost 2 hours of the finest ST content ever produced. James Horner added some truly fantastic music. Montalban (Khan) was filming for his TV series „Fantasy Island“ at the same time and because of scheduling conflicts he and Shatner did not meet during filming or had a scene together physically. In my opinion this movie also did a way better job than the first movie to reproduce the chemistry between Kirk, Spock, and McCoy as experienced during the TV series. In the book it is also explained why Scotty reacted so strongly to the death of cadet Peter Preston, as he is his nephew. A longer sequence of Kirk talking to Preston revealing this was filmed as well and is part of the director’s cut. The book also explores in greater detail what happened on Regula I. There is a continuity error between the „Space Seed“ episode and the movie. The episode was a season 1 episode, Walter Koenig (Chekov) joined the crew in season 2 . There was no way Khan could remember Chekov“s face or name, as he wasn’t aboard and not part of the episode. Walter Koenig realized that when reading the script but feared his role might end up being smaller if he mentioned it, so he didn’t. Different theories try to explain this gaffe away, but in the end it isn’t that important and most viewers would never notice it anyway.
Pierre Markuse
2025-06-04 20:29:13 +0000 UTCNow you guys should get the Deadpool and Wolverine reference when at the end through the door he says he's Spock while sacrificing himself.
Ohmss
2025-06-04 19:15:36 +0000 UTCThey have to preserve the aspect ratio of the film, and I’m sure compositing this is not trivially easy. I’m glad the uncovered versions are available at all—if you want to see the whole film in its glory, just use the Patreon version.
dc
2025-06-04 18:45:55 +0000 UTCWhy, when you can apparently show the whole movie unobscured, have you decided to make it the smallest thing on the screen? Surely, it would be better to have the movie fill the screen and your reaction screen be smaller and somewhere in the corner...
Sam
2025-06-04 18:43:11 +0000 UTCThe British Navy has the tradition of calling all trainee officers (midshipmen) by the title Mr.
Mark Alex Leach
2025-06-04 18:30:12 +0000 UTCAnd now waiting another week...ooof...this is a long journey indeed.
TomGas2025
2025-06-04 18:08:44 +0000 UTCIts always fun to watch you to.. If you show the whole movie, why not show the movie poster you are talking about?
Florian Nachname
2025-06-04 18:06:22 +0000 UTCAre you guys planning to watchthe 2009 movies?
Juanjomaster !
2025-06-04 17:31:34 +0000 UTCYeah Wrath of Khan is a bit of a gut punch, but I think you might see now why so many rate it so highly - the characters reflecting on their pasts and the fact they're aging, the updated effects, the excellent music, and of course Khan chewing up the scenery, being the magnificent bastard he is. The sixth film, The Undiscovered Country, is still my personal favorite, but this film will always be one of the best.
Eisengratz
2025-06-04 17:22:44 +0000 UTCAs you can imagine, seeing this ending at the theater without knowing if there would be another movie was devastating.
MongoTheElder
2025-06-04 17:17:14 +0000 UTCI love this movie. This channel makes me so happy.
Raven Dark
2025-06-04 17:16:05 +0000 UTCSummer of '82. I was 9. I felt like I lost a friend when Spock died.
Zobmie
2025-06-04 17:02:26 +0000 UTCGreat, incredible, awesome reaction to a great film. When we were getting ready to see this in the theaters back then, many of us heard the rumors that Nimoy really had to be persuaded to appear in the first film, and that he only came back for this if he had a great death scene (and lots of money). So when the film starts with Spock apparently dying in a simulation, we thought that this is why we heard the rumors. Then, when he dies at the end, it was physical shock. It was the first time I heard people crying and sup-supping in the audience. My sister and I where and are huge Trek fans. She adored Spock. As we left the theater, my sister's face was blank, like she was in shock, and her knees buckled and my father caught her before collapsing. Then, as we entered the parking lot, she started shaking and screaming. I went back a few times and saw the film again because I loved it so much. My sister refused. She was a classic tableau of the 7 stages of grief. A few years later, when it was announced that a 3rd Trek film was being made, my sister refused to even talk about it. Then, when it was announced that Nimoy was directing it and it was called the Search for Spock, she celebrated like a lost friend had been rescued. She was first in line at the premier in our town. Thank you Paramount and Gene Roddenberry for creating a universe that can inspire fans so intensely.
August King
2025-06-04 16:05:15 +0000 UTCIii is fun, not as good as this or IV and Vi. III has a fun guest star. VI is a really good, if not great send off for the OG crew. To rate all of them I say II, VI, IV, III, I, and V.
Matt O'Keefe
2025-06-04 15:41:21 +0000 UTCIn my personal experience of watching this when it came out in 1982, I had no idea that would happen to Spock. The scene on the planet surface at the end, though, gave me some hope. Not much, to be honest. And I didn't know there was an upcoming film called The Search for Spock. Not sure if that had been announced or not. He was simply gone. Shocking.
LazyArtist
2025-06-04 15:29:42 +0000 UTCThere was a longtime joke among Trekkies that Montalban wore a false chest for this role, that was in fact untrue, he was in fantastic shape for his age. The other Trekkie joke is that Chekov's brain worm came out because it starved to death... >_>
JD Nevesytrof
2025-06-04 15:29:26 +0000 UTCKHAAAAAAANNadians!
Mastervodo
2025-06-04 15:26:51 +0000 UTCDon't want to spoil too much about future Trek movies..But the ending of this (my favorite Trek movie) is why my most disliked Trek film is a certain other one.. And dislike is being polite..
Superpotroast
2025-06-04 15:13:56 +0000 UTCOh that's a shame, I thought you were watching the Director's Cut, which has a little good added dialogue, like the fact Kirk's glasses are priceless antiques, plus Scotty's nephew
JD Nevesytrof
2025-06-04 15:02:45 +0000 UTCI think general consensus agrees with you!
Mastervodo
2025-06-04 15:00:37 +0000 UTCThe Patrick Stewart version of that is really good.
Mike FromOz
2025-06-04 14:49:45 +0000 UTCRegarding Simone's comment about missing the theme music from the previous movie - The Motion Picture didn't lose money, but it wasn't a massive success either. Paramount agreed to fund another film only if it could stick to a much lower budget. Sadly one of the things that they couldn't afford was bringing back Jerry Goldsmith. Composer James Horner was relatively young at the time, but he delivered an excellent score in a very short time. This film helped put him on the map, and he went on to compose a number of really well known scores, including Aliens, Braveheart and Titanic.
Darin Foat
2025-06-04 14:47:54 +0000 UTCWELCOME TO KHAAAAAAAN!!!
StonyD
2025-06-04 14:40:51 +0000 UTCIt was very hard for Ricardo Montalban to find work after this movie. Nobody wanted to hire an Ex-Khan... I'll show myself out.
Chase Lonnergan
2025-06-04 14:37:12 +0000 UTCI'm glad you are watching all of them but I truly only enjoyed IV and VI after this as far as TOS movies go. Will you please watch the documentary "For the Love of Spock" when you are done with the movies? It was made by Nimoy's son.
JayF
2025-06-04 14:34:03 +0000 UTCIt’s in the extended directors edition revealed that it’s his nephew.
REDR58
2025-06-04 14:33:57 +0000 UTCIt is the best Star Trek movie soundtrack ever hands-down.
REDR58
2025-06-04 14:33:35 +0000 UTCJames Doohan "Scotty" was 62 when this was made i think he and Bones were the oldest cast members
rictus grin
2025-06-04 14:28:23 +0000 UTCSee? Sand worm! Bless the Maker and His Water, Bless the coming and going of Him!
Mastervodo
2025-06-04 14:25:56 +0000 UTCif you haven't seen Moby Dick its well worth the watch
rictus grin
2025-06-04 14:22:26 +0000 UTCshes seen TNG, but only random handful of episodes of TOS. the TOS journey they did is mostly new to her too.
robodong
2025-06-04 14:13:07 +0000 UTCfor me the best of all the star trek movies
rictus grin
2025-06-04 14:11:18 +0000 UTCI haven't been following along with this TOS journey, planning to for TNG, but how has Simone seen TOS and TNG, and never seen any of the movies? That just seems strange and wild to me lol.
Astraeos
2025-06-04 14:09:12 +0000 UTCYou raised some interesting possibilities in your watch and post discussion. Pay attention to the Klingon Captain in the next movie, I'm sure you will recognize him. Great to watch along with you guys, I haven't watched this in a long time. Hits a little harder as a parent. Also about the monologue it was also edited to change "where no man has gone before" to "where no one has gone before".
Mike Medaugh
2025-06-04 14:01:29 +0000 UTCshe started the whole TOS journey by saying shes only seen a handful of TOS episodes and she mostly just watches TNG.
robodong
2025-06-04 13:59:33 +0000 UTCHold up, has Simone really never seen this movie before? Even if she hadn't, she didn't know how it ended? It's like the most famous scene in the TOS.
Twiska Brand
2025-06-04 13:57:21 +0000 UTCThe music in the theater was epic at the time
Old School Drew
2025-06-04 13:40:03 +0000 UTCSaavik is a little complicated. In the novel she was a Vulcan/Romulan hybrid, trying to follow the Vulcan path as Spock's protégé but it was never stated on screen so not Alpha canon. It's rumoured she was planned to be revealed to be Spock's daughter with the Romulan commander at some point. But they ultimately didn't go in this direction and she's Vulcan in Alpha canon despite her appearing emotional in this movie.
Lincynity
2025-06-04 13:23:03 +0000 UTCIt didn’t make it into the film for some reason, but Preston (the kid we watched die) was Scotty’s nephew, which is why he’s so broken up. Maybe you’ll get to that in the trivia or something, but I thought I’d mention it in case.
Matthew Abbott
2025-06-04 13:22:57 +0000 UTC“Mister” is naval terminology
Matthew Abbott
2025-06-04 12:49:22 +0000 UTCIn "Space Seed," Khan and his followers were the product of eugenics. Here it's been retconned to genetic engineering. I suspect this is because A), eugenics would have taken numerous generations, and/or 2) Giving Khan et al actual physical and mental advantages via eugenics unduly legitimizes the, at best, problematic practice.
Ken Quick
2025-06-04 12:47:50 +0000 UTCThe appropriate point is after Discovery. It has loads of references to Nu Trek in it.
Lincynity
2025-06-04 12:47:17 +0000 UTCWhile the TOS movies overlap with TNG in terms of release date, in terms of in universe timeline TNG set in the 24th century, so it's decades later. 80 ish years after TOS if memory serves.
Lincynity
2025-06-04 12:40:08 +0000 UTCMaybe this has already been discussed but could you please include the licensed short film '765874 - Unification' in your Star Trek run at the appropriate point? You can find it via OTOY's site but here's a direct link to it on Youtube: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mgOZFny7F50
Dan
2025-06-04 12:30:53 +0000 UTCSince you asked, Kirk is from Iowa.
Matthew Abbott
2025-06-04 12:28:25 +0000 UTCKirk is from Iowa.
Matt O'Keefe
2025-06-04 12:19:07 +0000 UTCI hope I don't make myself too unpopular by saying this but I find that poster so disturbing and distracting, thanks for not hanging it back up for now. :D Speaking of posters and on a more constructive note: I think it would be great to show the poster in the uncovered version as well (like in the Youtube cut) while you're discussing it. :) Love your videos, looking forward to watching this one now.
Ginger
2025-06-04 12:12:27 +0000 UTCNobody mentioned the Star Wars/Dune crossover with the Jawas and Fremen on the poster.
Mastervodo
2025-06-04 12:11:11 +0000 UTCI am going home after work and watching this twice! YOU CAN'T STOP ME! Don't even try! I'll take you down with me! You have no idea who you messin' wit'!
Mastervodo
2025-06-04 12:06:50 +0000 UTCYes!!!! THE REASON FOR THIS LONG "TREK"!!! :)
Brent
2025-06-04 12:04:35 +0000 UTCI am soooooo fuckin happy this morning. 🥳
Rayna & Mike Sitter
2025-06-04 12:02:41 +0000 UTCYou lied! I exagerated...
TomGas2025
2025-06-04 12:02:29 +0000 UTCKHAAAAAAN!
Twiska Brand
2025-06-04 12:02:16 +0000 UTCKHAAAAAAN!
Jay Davis
2025-06-04 12:00:18 +0000 UTC
