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Star Trek: The Motion Picture - Uncovered Version

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I like to think that there was a 13 year old J.J. Abrams watching the "wormhole" scene and said "When I grow up, there will be even more lens flare!!!"

HauntSlider

"Wow.. look at the warp core!" Now all the fanboys know how to impress Simone. ;)

HauntSlider

Ah yes, the one where everyone is in pyjamas and talking about celibacy while pleasing a big orifice in space

SnabbKassa

The Klingon language as used in this movie was just some guttural phrases that James Doohan (Scotty) made For Star Trek III, a linguist came up with a full language. Your comments at the end pretty much exho everyone else's. Great concept, too slow. When this was made, "Women's Liberation" was the big thing, so they wanted to go as far away from the old uniforms as possible. They ended up with something that was very boring. Unfortunately, all of the redshirts were killed off in the original series, so there were no more left for this movie Happily they were able to recover some redshirt DNA in a test tube and were able to clone the species, so that by a later movie the planet of the Redshirts was repopulated and they started to send more of their "not-so-finest" to Starfleet.. In modern times htey practice Redshirt conservation.

Alan Kobb

Well, Simone, the "stuff" you're talking about is a common Fan theory ;-)

Sven Ketelhut

Elfquest creator Wendy Pini used to cosplay as Red Sonja, in a scale mail bikini, at conventions in the mid-1970s, so yes, cosplay was a thing in 1979.

Deadly Ramon

Stephen Collins who played Dekker was in 7TH Heaven , he’s also a pedo he admitted it

Michael Matthews

I think Star Trek 3 is sadly underrated as a lot of people did not like it but I have always liked 3 and there are other newer Star Trek fans that love the third movie and also the odd number TNG movies are also good in their own way, they all have their own charm and are good in their own ways and all of Star Trek is worth watching...Star Trek 5 is not really that good but still worth a watch and there are some people that still enjoy parts of that movie also but I look forward to continuing along your Star Trek Journey with both of you, Great reaction

Eric Traylor

Last thing i got to say is I do love this movie because aside from TAS, this is our only 70s trek and its so 70s which i love just like how TOS was so 60s. after this the movies get very 80s XD

The Real Andrew Kim

2nd movie is the best out of all of them. that's not an opinion its pretty much the general consensus for not just trekkies but for movie buffs in general

The Real Andrew Kim

Decker's father was killed in the TOS episode Doomsday Machine. Commadore Decker.

Joe R

initially this was going to be star trek Phase II a TV series , but they pivoted to a movie, and you might well be right that the success of Star wars played a big part in the decision

rictus grin

when i saw this in the cinema on its release in Scotland there were still ushers that would show you to your seat. no little red hats though

rictus grin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_with_overtures

RoboNex666

There was really a lot of penetration in this film

Ph4ZeD

So true, also First Contact because it's an absolute banger of a film

Ph4ZeD

"for a while" - I get it :D

Ginger

I love the new format but I think the movies tend to be a bit too loud. Especially during the end credits, it was a bit hard to unterstand you. Otherwise great video. I think conventional wisdom among Trekkies is that the even numbered are the good ones while the odd ones are worse. I'm especially looking forward to number 4. :) And yeah, they call this one "Star Trek: The Slow Motion Picture" for a reason ^^ I think you watched the fast paced version, there is ons with about half an hour more spaceship fly by footage. :D

Ginger

2001 A Space Odyssey also started with black screen symphony. They are clearly trying to associate their film with the grandeur introduced into sci-fi by Kubrick in order to be taken seriously as a film in competition with Star Wars

Bbb K

I would love to see a compilation of the cat woman character from TAS annoying George. That would make a fun short video

Bbb K

My partner learned growing up that you can make a cough syrup by extracting the juice of onions with rock sugar. I am not sure if this qualifies for this discussion because it actually does help with coughing.

Bbb K

First S&G were thinking or asked if 'Search for Spock' next (Don't say it) Then George says he heard first two are not not the best (Don't say it) I must say it. Khaaaa...

Shonnicus

Cleaning a cat food can

Bbb K

I agree. When I watch this film I imagine what it must have been like to direct those scenes. Just endless takes of "stare straight ahead. Now show me some awe. Next actor."...on and on for days

Bbb K

George called it, yes it literally was a response to Star Wars

The Real Andrew Kim

Being Korean, if you were hungover or had indigestion or anything you would take pepto bismal for, my grandma would resort to bloodletting, they would massage and beat the "bad blood" to the end of my thumb, then tourniquet(sp?) it off with rubberbands or something and then prick right about the thumbnail to get the bad blood out. P.S. it would be nice to have the movie poster in the uncovered versions when you guys break them down at the beginning

The Real Andrew Kim

I'm super pleased you enjoyed it so much, so it's all uphill from here for a while....

JD Nevesytrof

When I was little, while visiting my grand parents in rural Austria, I noticed that my grandfather was missing two fingers. It turned out somebody once told him he could cure some minor disease, I can't even remember what it was, by piercing his hand with a rusty nail. After following this advice he fell ill with sepsis and barely survived, but only at the cost of those two fingers.

Mycenaeus .

I always give 3 a pass from this rule, but generally yes. Helps that 2-4 are basically one long movie.

Chief

This isn't actually a folk remedy, but in my early childhood mom forced us to take a tablespoon of cod liver oil every so often. I don't remember frequency. Disgustingly bad tasting. Whatever health benefits it may have held was outweighed by the stress and trauma of ingesting it.

Matt Quinn

Each jurisdiction has its own time frame but ‘checks’ all expire after some amount of time. A good rule is a year and a day from the date issued.

Skyruff

Happy to rewatch the Star Trek movies with you two! At least for the TOS era, the even numbered films (2, 4, & 6) are generally better regarded than the odd numbered films (1, 3, & 5), but they're all worth watching~

StrayConfusion

0:50 When I was about 3 years old, I was living in Mexico city for the winter months with my parents and, apparently, I was subjected to the "evil eye" by someone at the market, or so said my grandmother. So to cure me, she had to remove the curse by bathing me in eggs. Now my father's German, so he comes into the kitchen to see his boy being bathed in eggs and asks wtf. You can imagine the conversation that ensued...

Liquor & Swords

Did you watch the 1979 release cut? The early 2000s "directors cut" and especially the 4K version of the film have many tweaks and touches that were ) allegedly) originally intended, but never made the initial release due to time pressure and budget issues. I find this version more ... Honest... it reflected what audience actually saw... the awkward pause later fixed by tighter editing, the generic sound effects - later replaced with more familiar Trek sfx. Set audio late replaced with ADR dialog. While the 4K version is superior in most ways, this version is its charms. It's the down-to-the-wore release shipped in still wet reels to make the deadline.

punterjoe

Simone is obviously a big fan of the theme from this movie. Gene Roddenberry loved it so much he decided to use it for the Next Generation too. There's a great video on YouTube where composer Jerry Goldsmith and director Robert Wise discuss how the iconic theme came to be. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpcJPm80TPQ

Darin Foat

To answer Simone's question: In TNG, the Ferengi were actually supposed to be the big baddies for the series, but they ended up being so laughable that the writers had to regroup after the second season or so and come up with new villains, so the Borg didn't materialize until later.

Simone's Coconut Squire

At the end, Simone disappeared into a black hole... or a wormhole... or a space tunnel...

Ludovic Ligot

Monkey blood and Aloe cured just about everything in my house growing up. You will have to look up monkey's blood cure to see what it really was cause I'm not sure how to spell it. When TNG came out and we met the Borg , theories came out saying VGER was captured by the Borg and upgraded.

Jayson Phillips

Star Wars started the space movie craze. You can bet your life this movie wouldn't have been made if Star Wars hadn't become the success it was.

SuicuneSol

There is no CGI of the spacecraft in this movie. It’s a bit before the advent of CGI effects! What you see is all physical models.

REDR58

I'd have recommended you skip this one as it was mostly them falling in love with CGI shots of the Enterprise flying around in space. Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan is pretty much universally considered the best of the TOS movies. Please get to that one ASAP.

JayF

The autogenerated closed captions just called Mr Spock "Mr Sparkle", which seem appropriate given George's T-Shirt!

Karen Leah Quinn

So excited for you to get to The Wrath Of Khan!!!!

sarCC

Star Trek 6 should be watched during a particular episode of TNG, 1 - 5 can be anytime.

Kelley Leary

Speaking of what they used to call a “black hole,” Disney’s “The Black Hole” also released in 1979 had an overture lasting about 2:24. That movies is weird, but interesting and I highly recommend it. It really is too bad you aren’t seeing the cleaned-up visual effects work that was done to the “Director’s Edition” of this movie and I highly suggest you seek it out and watch it on your own. As good as the Enterprise looks here, it looks even better in the DE, as the version you are watching is a bit dingy to say the least. Plus, some of the additional footage is interesting. That said, the model work in this movie overall is top notch. Some of the compositing looks a little rough here, but that is also addressed in the DE version. The Klingon vessels are D7 cruisers in this movie were first seen in the 3rd season of TOS but the model used here is larger and far more finely detailed. Simone’s delight at seeing and hearing familiar elements (San Francisco, the Main Theme) is infectious! The Enterprise “refit” is an interesting concept here. Typically, but not always, a vessel that undergoes a major refit still looks more or less like it did when it was first built, perhaps with some exterior equipment changes and internal changes. The “refit” in the movie has somehow changed the overall physical dimensions, arrangements and shapes between the TV TOS Enterprise and what we see in the movie. Every major section of the Enterprise, the saucer, engineering hull, engine pods and struts and the “neck” between the engineering hull and the saucer are all larger and different. You can see a comparison of the 2 designs here: https://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/constitution/constitution-superimposed.jpg Given such drastic changes, it probably makes more “real world” sense to simply design and build a new ship and from a lot of discussion online and elsewhere, it may as well be that the TMP Enterprise is for all intents and purposes a brand new ship, with possibly some internal equipment that was reused. Quite frankly, the idea that Uhura’s earpiece was the only reused prop from the TOS may not be too far off the mark. Especially when we keep hearing how unfamiliar Kirk is with the changes, the moviemakers should have just retired the TOS vessel and stuck it in a museum and opened the movie with a brand new, and different, Enterprise! Granted there are always exceptions to what I wrote above, and a very specific set of real-world examples are discussed here: https://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/constitution-refit.htm In the US and other modern navies, an Admiral (a “flag officer”) commands a fleet, not an individual vessel. The ship he or she boards would still be commanded by the ship’s captain. Kirk was of course temporarily reduced in rank to “captain.” I don’t think we ever again see such a voluminous spaces inside the Enterprise until the Kelvin (2009) movie. The hangar deck, recreation deck and warp core look positively expansive here. Apparently, the crew size for the Enterprise is about 430. Frankly, with such a relatively small crew, that recreation deck is enormous. The Starfleet crew member on the space station said the (V’ger) cloud was “82 AU” in diameter! An AU (astronomical unit) is the distance between the earth and the sun, so the 82 AU diameter cloud was enormous and would completely cover the entire solar system many times over! When the movie was reedited and changed for the Director’s Cut, that line was altered to “2 AU” which is much more manageable! Persis Khambatta, who played Ilia, shaved her head for the role. She was an Indian model and actor from Bombay and died aged 49 from a heart attack brought on by years of heavy smoking. I’m fairly certain that DeForest Kelley walked straight out of his 1970s split-level home’s conversation pit and directly on set. If you don’t know what a “conversation pit” is, look here: https://www.russh.com/70s-conversation-pit-interiors-trend/ I really like how everyone in Engineering is wearing protective suits. The uniforms of the Star Wars Galactic Empire look much more militaristic than the pajamas everyone is wearing here. The color might be similar, but that’s it. Star Wars uniforms generally look quite practical and what you might see in the real world. The career of Stephen Collins, who played William Decker, ended shortly after he admitted to, but was never charged for, the sexual abuse of several minor children. “All those vessels were called ‘Enterprise’” which Decker shows the Ilia probe are the sailing ship HMS (?) Enterprise, the WW2 US Navy Aircraft carrier Enterprise, the Space Shuttle Enterprise (which was only used for atmospheric testing/release from a carrier aircraft and landing on a runway) but never went to space, and another Star Trek Enterprise (known as the “ring ship”) and then the TOS Enterprise. You can read about the Space Shuttle Enterprise here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Enterprise (note the photo of the Star Trek cast in the article) I always compared the V'Ger "orifices" to camera apertures. No need for biological grossness! Anyway, fantastic reaction! Glad you both enjoyed the movie. And new we step forth to Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan… perhaps the greatest Star Trek movie of all time.

REDR58

My grandmother was an original, country, Texas Southern Belle and had plenty. 1. Don't swallow watermelon seeds, or a melon will grow in your stomach. 2. Keep cats away from babies because the cat will get too close, breathe all the air, stealing the baby's breath, and suffocating it. 3. If you have an open wound, then you would shred up potatoes, heat them up with butter and flour, and then create a "pack", known as a poultice, and place in/on the wound like a bandage. There are others.

Texas J

I just rewatched their Ted reaction and here's a hard +1!

Maiki

You know what other movies Star Wars helped get made? Flash Gordon (1980) Hint Hint

Shonnicus

I partially disagree. I think the shots of the Enterprise in drydock are some of the best-looking visual effects for any iteration of the Enterprise, perhaps only until how good the Enterprise looks in the 2009 movie.

REDR58

Even for an admiral!

REDR58

It's not a terrible film, but there is a bit too much staring at special effects, and then staring at actors staring at special effects. You can tell the script was for a TV pilot. It's an hour of story in a 2+ hour film.

SJB

I saw this in the theater when it came out and I was extremely excited about new Star Trek, but no I don't recall anyone dressing in costumes in the theater. This reboot of Trek was originally started as a series reboot, but yes after the success of Star Wars (and the rise of the Sci-Fi genre) it was transitioned to a movie "series." The producers did not use ILM (Lucas' FX company) for the FX, which is why the visual FX are not fantastic, but they did use ILM for the 2nd movie.

Stevtrek

I grew up hearing that bathing in tomato juice would get rid of the stink if you were sprayed by a skunk. Nonsense. Also, I grew up hearing that you should flush your eyes with milk if you get welder's flash from looking at someone welding. Also nonsense.

Baron Imhoof

This first one is like a Ferrari with no engine; it looks great but is otherwise useless (imo). 2 is where the movies get good. You could watch films 1-6 & then do TNG; there isn't really any crossover until film 7.

Odd Thomas

Butter on burns was a thing in my family. I tried it once. I said this doesn't work and grabbed the ice.

Jonathan Eaton

The abrupt ending to Simone's side of the reaction was due to what they used to call a "Black Hole".

Mastervodo

Requesting permission to come aboard is a naval tradition for personnel that are assigned to a ship. This is still done today onboard US naval ships.

ChiefKC

I love the point where the Wheel of Fortune word suddenly becomes clear, and both our Cinebuddies are like, "Pat, I'd like to solve the puzzle!"

Mastervodo

There is a podcast for star trek in Germany called Trek on Tuesday...there they called the Admirals Badmirals. 😁

Tomas Gaspar

The slow spin around the Enterprise in space dock is pure fan service, but I love it. This version is not only my favorite incarnation of the Enterprise, it's my favorite fictional spaceship design ever. It embodies the whole ethos of Star Trek. It's a beautiful machine, and it reminds us that people can achieve great things when they set their minds to it.

Darin Foat

As a kid I was taught to tilt my head back when I had a nosebleed... years later, I got a rather serious nosebleed while skiing and was thoroughly surprised when a medic suddenly pulled my head forward and down and firmly pinched my nose!

Denashi

What happened to Simone's finger where there is a bandaid? Chopping logs? Cat bite? Did you get a paper cut from a Magic Card?

Mastervodo

I'm just sitting here, patiently waiting for DS9. Gonna be a while... Lol.

Chase Lonnergan

The entire orignal cast had agreed to return for phase II except Leonard Nimoy, who had ongoing dispute with paramount, but they worked things out by the time of the movie

Matt88g

Originally, paramount had considered a tv series called star trek “phase II”, however after star wars success, paramount shifted to a feature film adaptation, instead.

Matt88g

@george A cousin of mine had an eating disorder and as they are living in a small village in Portugal, supersticion is still a thing there. They visited an old "witch doctor" with her...didn't help though. Weird thing...usually in catholic dominated countries..well you know...burning drowning quartering. But not if you need their help. Weird for someone living in a city in Germany.

Tomas Gaspar

Why?

Tomas Gaspar

*Gasp!* I get to watch your Star Trek reaction AT WORK now!

John

George, I do hate the freaking cat person (M’Ress) alien design. It’s awful and wrong and evil. Evil! Speaking of Star Trek actors and music… Leonard Nimoy performs The Ballad of Bilbo Baggins: https://youtu.be/QuQbus0xfhk?si=kPLudbNyaqaJ31gx

REDR58

Klingon Battle song is a great piece of music!

Mike Medaugh

If nothing else, the model of the Enterprise never again looks as good as it does here (and it looks great to just fine in all the later movies). It looks absolutely massive and real-looking the way it was filmed here.

REDR58

Always loved the D7. First and only Star Trek ship model I bought and assembled as a kid.

Jay Davis

Aw heck yeah! Wasn't even expecting this today. Nice surprise!

Jay Davis

My grandmother retold me recently about her mum putting these "medicinal" glass cuppings on her back or chest when she was sick as a kid (with flu, a big cold, ...) . Like heating inside with a candle and quickly applying in on the skin to make them adhere by suction. Except burning a little and leaving big suction marks, it didn't do much...

Guillaume Huet_rennibou

does it have to be brown? lol

robodong

oh she started it years ago at this point lol. just didnt bother to proceed. too much gas station smut novels to read i guess

robodong

l wonder if Simone has started reading Dune yet?

nigel Macbug

Would you believe brown paper and vinegar on the chest for a cold? My Gran did.

Mark Alex Leach

And finally we slowly begin to sink our teeth into some truly profound quality Trek stories. Hope you guys enjoy.

Big.Bad.Mr.Mustard

Ahhh, Star Trek: The Motionless Picture

Matthew Abbott

I got chicken pox as a kid, and one of the folk remedies was to put a specific plant's leaves under the bedsheet, so that the oils or whatever would penetrate and help cure you. Nope, just made everything scratchier for me, and really annoying.

Mike FromOz

Ireland has loads of weird beliefs. If you have a wart on your hand you are supposed to put in the water of a blacksmiths forge. It is said that the stuff in the water will cure the wart. You have to go there and watch the blacksmith at work and wait until his back is turned. He can never know you did it. If he sees you the cure will not work. I dunno if that is what you meant but it is one of those ancient cures that got passed down.

Dom

I hope you had fun with it...a real star trek about the wonders of the universe...i love the klingon Cruisers...thats why I have them tattooed on my arm...D7 all the way. Allthough this variant is call the K't'Inga class. It also gets a big resurgence in Star Trek VI.

Tomas Gaspar


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