Severance 203-204
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Just watching through again with Simone and George months after their initial reaction. It's so obvious, after re-watching several times, how different Helena and Helly are even as Helena tries to pose as Helly. And I think Irving is an ex-spook on the outside. This would explain his investigative and forceful interrogation skills and experience. Not only with his suspicions about Helly but also when he shows the book of drawings to Felicia. He left that drawing of the "Exports Hall" in purposefully. The innies carry over many of the skills and aptitudes of their outies.
Robert Northrop
2025-10-28 23:10:18 +0000 UTCCode for: I don't get it so I'm gonna blame my ignorance on everything else
John.Ferguson58
2025-09-26 21:03:09 +0000 UTCI also had no idea until the end of the ORTBO (only Lumon could come up with such a ridiculous name 🤣) that this whole season, it was Helena Eagan and not Helly R working on the severed floor, as a mole. But upon rewatch there are so many clues that hint to this, it’s crazy to think I missed all of them!
Bill B.
2025-07-20 03:37:00 +0000 UTCI also hadn't picked up on it being Helena rather than Helly til Irving flat out said it. But I've watched multiple reactions where people have noticed right away that she wasn't her Innie. Looking back I see it but when watching I didn't suspect a thing, I think I was just too focused on wanting her to spill the beans about her being an Eagon.
ShittyShittyGameGang
2025-07-11 20:59:46 +0000 UTCI wish I was smart enough to know why Simone got so excited in episode 3. I have no idea what's going on. :-(
Nobody
2025-07-10 01:51:43 +0000 UTCThere were pretty big clues that It was not Helly... The fact that Mark and Irv basically picked up right where they were when season 1 ended and she didn't and also how willing she was to go along with everything
Katzchen1984
2025-06-29 20:17:11 +0000 UTCI am honestly completely surprised you guys were so caught off guard by this. It's been teased since the first episode.
Nick Kessler
2025-06-05 03:31:43 +0000 UTCi knew something was up the first episode but didn't know what. My aunt figured it out like like 30 minutes into the first season 2 episode. She was right they give several small clues in that first episode along with the other stuff.
Nick Kessler
2025-06-05 03:31:03 +0000 UTCThat's not accurate. she was outtie helly from the beginning of the season. there are clues in the first episode. My aunt figured it out early on.
Nick Kessler
2025-06-05 03:28:20 +0000 UTCHelly´s outie was just in this episode pretending to be Helly, not for longer.
E. D.
2025-06-02 01:40:47 +0000 UTCI didn't realise there were people that didn't even for a second suspect Helly was in fact Helena
Fraser
2025-05-30 14:56:31 +0000 UTCblahhh quickly losing interest in this show with this season's endless randomness. season 1 was great. now it's starting to feel like the writers accepted any idea that was proposed and ran with it. all over the place
Ben
2025-05-30 00:31:35 +0000 UTCI'm with Simone. If they leave me on a terrible cliff hanger at the end of this season, I'm getting severed, to escape the pain.
Gary Fixler
2025-05-28 22:45:30 +0000 UTCWhen I first watched this ep, her facial expression at that moment just instantly confirmed to me that I was right in suspecting it was Helena. Britt Lower is phenomenal.
Ira K.
2025-05-28 16:26:54 +0000 UTCI'm slower than most of you. I had no idea that Helly was her outie until Irv started openly questioning her in this episode, and even then, I didn't get it until he said, "Helly was never mean." That sent me on a backward spiral of Helly's actions, comparing Season 2 Helly with Season 1 Helly, and I had to agree with Irv. Season 1 Helly found Innie life so intolerable that she was willing to kill herself to get out. Not even the shame of finding out her Outie was a party leader could pacify her into the kindly accepting Helly that begins season 2. Or the Helly who seduces Mark into forgetting about his Outie's wife by getting him to focus on his work wife. I'm going to rewatch a few episodes before next week's reaction to see how many other clues I clearly missed, but until then, "Bravo, Severance!"
Simon Pegged Me
2025-05-28 12:08:49 +0000 UTCI know there’s a lot to unpack in this episode (204) but I was always impressed how well Miss Huang plays the theremin at the campfire.
mojo shivers
2025-05-28 07:06:45 +0000 UTCThere were a few ways that Irv put together that Helly was her outie the whole time. The audience had a few extra ways to tell (like Helly fumbling with the switch on their monitor), but Irv couldn't have known that). The biggest one is the dream he had the night of the ORTBO. He saw the monitor, which had E A G and N on it. Those spell out EAGAN. Also it is very tough to see, but you can see Helly's face and eye flash on screen near the end. This isn't really explained, so here's my theory: Dreams in the show are the outie's thoughts connecting with the innie. Since Helena is pretty famous (hier of presumably the biggest company around), Irv's outie probably knows about her and what she looks like. When innie Irv has his dream, I think the outie's thoughts and knowledge about Helena Eagan bleed over to his innie in that cryptic way. This basically confirms to him via the monitor with the letters that Helena is Helly, although this doesn't explain that she is her outie at that very moment. He puts that together as "who would have the power to send their outie to the severed floor". Also, there's the big question of why Helena sent herself down in the first place. One, her innie tried to hang her the previous season. She probably feels safer as her outie down there as opposed to letting her innie have free reign over her. Two, Lumon said that they didn't know what happened during the overtime contingency. What better way to get that information than to send a spy down there and hear all their juicy conversations? Also I must mention that the night gardener was probably a pretty normal thing to Helena. Given her family's level of "fuck you" money, they probably have gardeners and other staff available any time. I imagine her thinking "ah shit, come up with something poor people would relate to" and proceeded to mention a boring apartment and nature documentary.
Rob Bob
2025-05-28 05:22:00 +0000 UTCI love the scene where Milchick receives the paintings. He is always a character who knows what to say, and does so very elegantly. This is why it is such a distinct moment when he has almost nothing to say at all. Only a few small words and incomplete sentences. He is so taken aback by the complete disrespect Lumen has just showed him. Really great stuff.
Rob Bob
2025-05-28 00:59:16 +0000 UTCThere's a phenomenal bit of expressive acting by Britt Lower in the scene in Irving's tent, when he challenges her story. For just a second, the mask slips and her whole demeanor changes from "Helly" to coldly calculating corporate heiress. Might not be as noticeable on a small screen, but for me, watching on a big TV, that's the moment that made me gasp and first suspect the twist.
Ghostwriter
2025-05-28 00:04:09 +0000 UTCI got into knitting and crochet in 2018. I have a ton of hobbies. That lead to learning about fibers and spinning, and that lead to me learning about sheep. I had never thought of it before, but yeah, there are a ton of different kinds of sheep, just like dogs. That devil looking dude looks like a Jacob sheep. Do a Google images search. Then look up merino sheep; they look morbidly obese, but it's just all wool. When they shear them, they go back to looking pretty normal. There are so, so many types, and so many very different looks. Like texel sheep look like little bulldog pigs, and Border Leicesters have big "Roman" noses. Cotswolds have bed-head, and hair over their eyes (very cute). Look up fat-tailed sheep, which apparently make up a huge portion of sheep on earth. They're especially bred in the Middle East, if I'm remembering correctly, for meat. They literally have big fat ass cheeks. And for the cutest sheep ever (but not the friendliest — from what I'm seen, those are Finn sheep) — check out Valais Blacknose sheep. They don't even look real. They look like Muppets.
Gary Fixler
2025-05-27 22:35:23 +0000 UTCOne of the other clues that it was Helena Egan that they make a point of showing the viewer in closeup is the first time she comes back in season two, she struggles to find the switch in the back of the computer whereas the other three all find the switch instantly.
Gootz
2025-05-27 21:52:56 +0000 UTCI watched every scene with Helly in a completely different mindset than S&G, because from the moment the night gardener was invented in the first episode i was convinced she was Helena Egan. Irving, the MVP!
Opti_Frog
2025-05-27 21:32:13 +0000 UTCpersonally i thought it was the little tells in her mannerisms. idk if i just got a lucky guess but since the first episode of season 2 i got the idea that helly was her outie. and kept seeing some odd behavioral differences.
michael cross
2025-05-27 20:55:47 +0000 UTCYou guys are so fixated on your clone theory. It's funny. And you seem confused about them asking about pouches in Mammalians Nurturable. So you don't remember the first season and how O&D believed people in MDR had larval pouches? Most reactors suspected Helly was actually her outie from the first episode of season 2. So glad you guys were surprised by the reveal. Irving made the connection in his fist innie dream. On the computer screen the only letters appearing on the computer screen in his dream were E A G and N and he realized only an Eagan would have the power to send their outie to the severed floor.
D. T. Nelson
2025-05-27 16:16:51 +0000 UTCA lot happened in these two episodes. I wanted to remind you of the 'present' the board gave Milchick. Where they basically put Eagon and others in blackface in the paintings, and gave them to Milchick. Thinking those wildly offensive paintings would somehow make Milchick feel more connected to the company. I mean, yikes! Even Natalie was having trouble keeping the smile on her face.
TGrimace
2025-05-27 16:05:56 +0000 UTCI think we're going to need a running count of the number of times they say the word 'clone'.....
TGrimace
2025-05-27 14:49:09 +0000 UTCAlso one I just noticed is whenever she calls Irving lonely, you can hear a crack in her voice compared to her previous line about never being able to see Burt again, probably due to Helena's own projection about loneliness that's been shown in previous episodes. Really such a flawless show
jay
2025-05-27 14:44:42 +0000 UTCIrving always suspected Helly was lying. In the dream sequence woe is sitting in Helly’s chair and the numbers on Irving’s monitor resolved into the letters E G A and N and then for a second morphed into Helena’s face. There are a bunch of clues if you go back including no elevator noise when Helly arrives on the floor.
Jacob King
2025-05-27 14:29:03 +0000 UTCI resubscribed just for this, oh man I am SO excited for this one!!
jay
2025-05-27 12:33:17 +0000 UTC
