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Retrospection.

Ursus Ridens

You people have marvelous, marvelous imaginations. Thank you again, Jeph, for enabling this whirlpool of simultaneously well-thought-out and weird ideas.

Ursus Ridens

Whee! "Philippus Aureolus Theophrastus Bombastus von Hohenheim" for when you're really mad. (Do look him up, folks.) When I really need a good long exclamation/execration, however, I've been using "Chocolate-covered bacon-wrapped deep-fried Twinkie!" Even though my brother-in-law (otherwise a sensible sort) commented, "Actually, that sounds sort of good."

Ursus Ridens

It's the answer for 'What's a grecian urn?' From Rowan and Martins Laugh-In (Approx. 1968)

alphanor

That's kind of a given considering how she turned out.

awgiedawgie

Nah. He has no heart.

awgiedawgie

Oooh, that IS a good one. I like swearing by shouting "Theophrastus Bombastus Von Hohenheim!" I don't have anything against Paracelsus in particular, it's just very satisfying to yell.

YsabetJustYsabet

Ahh, but her dad's is in his wallet.

YsabetJustYsabet

We know that Beepatrice also had integration issues with her second body. It's less common, but not so rare that you wouldn't get two AIs who don't otherwise know each other both having experience with that issue.

enchantedsleeper

By the way, not many people seem to be commenting on the fact that it takes Anh 48 hours to get a meeting with her own father. Possibly not the closest or most affectionate of families.

Phil_M

It does seem that one of Anh’s virtues is that she’s prepared to accept reality when it’s staring her in the face. She doesn’t do denial beyond the point where it becomes untenable, even if the truth does drive her to drink sometimes. I mean, it’s a low bar, but it’s one that a lot of people duck under.

Phil_M

On the other hand, May seemed to adapt quickly, and several others have upgraded as well, with no complaints. Roko seems to be an exception, not the rule.

Carl G Knoblock

I have a complete shoulder replacement scheduled and approved by the insurance company. Now, if I only stay healthy enough to have the surgery.

Carl G Knoblock

Amazing, what we can learn in this venue. Thank you, Dad.

Ursus Ridens

Aha. Anh could learn a lot by chatting with Hanners...but I don't think that she's ready to really listen yet.

Ursus Ridens

Beats me why even a buncha cheapskates would make a muscle out of thermoplastic elastomer. It'll eventually flow under stress. (Bonus: I finally had to look up what a rotator cuff actually is. Not only did Wikipedia answer that question, but it gave me, free for nothing, the wonderful phrase "infraspinous fossa", which should be useful as an exclamation at times, e.g., when I hit my thumb with a hammer.)

Ursus Ridens

That will be a character arc to behold. I am looking forward to it! I think Anh has a lot of potential.

SilverbackRon

I think this is a turning point for Anh as a character. She goes from "annoying dumpster fire trash goblin" to "Annoying Dumpster Fire Trash Goblin with a heart of... TBD".

SilverbackRon

About a buck 25 an hour. If you get that reference, you are really old, like me.

alphanor

As a person that's dealt with warranties before that are supposed to cover individual parts, they always find a way to make your use of the product more than what "average wear and tear" is. Except AutoZone, I can return damn near anything to them and they'll replace it or trade in for full value.

Byron Wright

You forget the tragic back story, someone needs to kill Anh's parents.

Opus the Poet

AFAIK it precedes Narbonic, by decades. I was using it in the 90s.

Opus the Poet

And for all intents and purposes has pretty much ruined Twitter, no great loss.

Opus the Poet

Convoluted, but I'll buy it.

Opus the Poet

Except for her father, Faye's family are pretty good.

Opus the Poet

how many answers to the question can we get? Two so far.

alphanor

I respect Anh for immediately trusting Faye's expertise and not falling back on "but that's my family's company, there's no way things could be that bad!", although she seems to have drawn the AI's ire nonetheless by associating with the brand (which I feel is a little unfair, but they've got arm issues thanks to said brand so I can't exactly blame them). Also glad her immediate reaction is to try and use her connections for good, despite how "rich bitch" she's acted in... honestly every strip before this one.

Sarah Valentine

@Donna See, my first thought was she was grabbing a buncha screwdrivers (or sifting through a drawer of them or something), and probably just had a handful of them when she heard the name she recognized and came over with whatever she was already holding.

Sarah Valentine

SMW: If Dora pushed Tai into digging out two people from college she could still get hold of and who she didn't actually *dis*like, because she had to have some kind of bridesmaids, she didn't actually do too badly. Cleo seemed quite cool, and Anh... has her charms. MB: Time is a function of the progression of events.

Phil_M

For worse!!! He is a fucking moron who bought the presidency.

Andrea Andrew

Well, he’s somebody who manages engineering operations, for better or for worse.

Phil_M

Of course I would follow the BookBeard-provided link and then just keep reading the comic in order. I still can't believe Melon gets paid to curl up under a bright light and have bugs/reptiles/small rodents crawl all over her. If only I'd known making money were that easy.

Mikey Bear

*Most* of her hair's still in place.

Rich Holmes

Is that a Narbonic reference? I think I recognize that.

Miyaa

Frankly, we had all predicted (Read: hoped) it would be Pintsize who pulled a Luigi, but it will probably be Yay.

Mikey Bear

GDI Sean, now I’m in the mood for Vietnamese spring rolls (with shrimp) and Vietnamese style coffee (Marten should start offering those).

Miyaa

I'm guessing (Read: hoping) she'll react with tears and/or fire.

Mikey Bear

Would be wild if Pizza Girl delivered pizza to the place and Anh recognized her as actually the daughter of an evil Gordon Ramsey type of Michelin star chef and this uncovers a secret that Pizza Girl and Pen-Pen are secretly long lost twins!

Miyaa

I'm hoping there's a lot of fire involved >:)

Mikey Bear

*Roko bursts into tears off screen*

Mikey Bear

Like "Attorneys general", I like it.

Mikey Bear

*in best Christophe voice* For pooping, silly.

Mikey Bear

A phillips head, a flat head, and a universal driver are all solid guesses, tbf

Mikey Bear

I N S A N E to me that they started planning this wedding over a thousand pages ago. What is time even???

Mikey Bear

Trying to at least. If she can get an appointment with her father.

Stewart MacWilliam

Ooooh. This may explain it. https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=4513

Stewart MacWilliam

Only if Anh mysteriously turns out to have a wonderful knack for baking. Or interacts with Clinton, and Clinton convinces Eliot to teach her so that he can squee about it to Claire.

Sean Morgan

Yeah - Tai has heavily implied that, as an extroverted party-type who had a lot of flings, her social circle included a lot of people who weren't that emotionally invested in each other.

Sean Morgan

Good for Anh for leveraging her privilege. Also, she's getting grubbier and more disheveled and I'm here for that. ;-)

Hugh Eckert

Also, I remember Tai mentioning she didn't have a lot of actual friends before becoming part of Marten's circle...

Hugh Eckert

Yes

Drazi

She'll get there. I think currently she might be assuming the issue is incompetence at the manufacturing level. If/when she finds out that, as Faye is implying, it is actually apathy or downright malevolence at an executive level *that's* when the real outrage will kick in.

BookBeard

Musk isn’t an engineering manager at all. He inherited his money and bought all his companies. No skills and no degree as he dropped out of college. Vivian Wilson isn’t comparable to Anh, as she’s been abused by Musk her whole life.

Andrea Andrew

I got the impression that they were friends from college. I imagine that Anh was entertaining to be around, paid for dinner more often than was her turn, and had some interesting stories about high society. And she’s never come across as really mean — just a bit… status-conscious.

Phil_M

Nah. Her name is far too normal and non-embarrassing.

Phil_M

The complication is that, if robot bodies are still made by capitalist corporations (and I doubt that anyone will change that any time soon), you’re at risk that the corporations will churn out particularly shoddy, non-durable bodies, and leave it to the socialised robomaintenance sector to (literally) pick up the pieces.

Phil_M

Daddy probably made the mistake of telling her that the company is proud to deliver quality goods and services. After all, it’s nice to have your kids think the best of you, and presumably he’s not horrible enough to go the full Logan Roy raise-a-pack-of-sociopaths route. And I can’t entirely blame Anh for still believing that line; it’s pleasant to think the best of one’s parents, in the absence of clear reasons to think otherwise.

Phil_M

Oh, you're right! I'd like to find out what happened after she eloped with Calzone Lass and then was brutally betrayed by her ex, the Pasta Primogenitor.

enchantedsleeper

The most positive thing I’ve heard plausibly argued about Musk is that he’s a very good engineering manager. Which is no small thing if true, but doesn’t make him a universal genius. Saying that this is like Musk’s *daughter* developing a conscience hits the complication that that plotline already happened in reality. But note that Anh hasn’t actually changed much yet. She’s still all on board with the family business; she just thinks that it ought to deliver proper product quality. Which is actually fine so far as it goes, and may lead to more if she gets that shareholder value speech from daddy.

Phil_M

Just having inside knowledge of the company could provide useful snippets of information. And a corporate heiress standing up against corporate interests would be great PR; the press love family-struggle stories.

Phil_M

Oh, that's a common misconception: the correct plural is "buttfori"!

enchantedsleeper

Pre-wedding Anh seems such an unlikely person for Tai to want AT her wedding, let alone IN it. Were they childhood friends before the Dangs got megarich?

Stewart MacWilliam

@Philip Masters: re: your last point: "presumably even she would regard a mechanical repair as no more traumatic, and much easier, than a human having an injury attended to." Easier, yes, but as for traumatic - Roko fainted at the sight of her own disembodied foot when Faye was fixing the hitch in her ankle. That was explained to all be part of her deep integration with her chassis as well. Generally speaking, it seems like it's a combination of the two (equipment and organic body). Yes, AI bodies work more like equipment and they can have parts added on, upgraded and changed more freely and can also switch chassis if they want to (and have the means). But Jeph introducing the issue of bodily integration and the associated potential for dissociation and dysphoria complicates things on that front.

enchantedsleeper

She clearly reckons she’s still on reasonable terms with her father, so she hasn’t done anything obvious to annoy him. We don’t know if she’s told him about the bi-realisation thing, and we don’t know how he’d react to that. As to the moving across the country — he may just shrug that off as kids being kids, or even be pleased that she’s trying to do something with her life instead of hanging around cluttering the place up, even if she isn’t clear yet what the something is.

Phil_M

I’m sure she’s seen the staff electrician use them.

Phil_M

Don't forget Pizza Girl! It's been a while... About time she made a reappearance!

David Warren

Not much detail to be had on their relationship so far, just that she and Cleo seem to be friends of Tai's from before the events of the comic.

BookBeard

So here for THAT, too! I've always wanted happiness for Bleminda. And the Mysterious Slab Emitting A Low Hum deserves a better and more stable polycule situation.

enchantedsleeper

I fear that poor Anh is about to suffer a minor Are-We-The-Baddies moment when the realities of how the family got quite so rich crash in on her. But yes, it’s in the right place, even if her current motivation is about pride in quality of service rather than actual compassion.

Phil_M

It’s easy to get ahead when daddy gives you $200M and you have a penchant for stealing other peoples’ work!

Nessi505

OK: I need some backstory. How did Anh end up as Tai's bridesmaid?

Stewart MacWilliam

Conceptually, a robot body in this setting is more like a piece of equipment than a human’s organic body. Yeah, having it break down too often is annoying, and warranty scams are very annoying, but assuming the AI can cover the cost, it’s generally much less serious than a human’s debilitating illness. Of course, close identity/body associations like Roko’s confuse the issue a little, but presumably even she would regard a mechanical repair as no more traumatic, and much easier, than a human having an injury attended to.

Phil_M

We don't?!? Damn, that explains some stuff.

Michael Steamweed

Everyone in QC has such a great family background!

Michael Steamweed

Not just her father. https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=5434

Stewart MacWilliam

Right between the lungs... a little north of center of mass, as my USMC father used to say.

allanfranta

Considering how sheltered she has been, simply identifying screwdrivers is an accomplishment.

Stewart MacWilliam

...and multiple different vacuum-cup attachments!

Stephen Wells

@Stephen: it probably has various vibration speeds and patterns.

Sean Kinlin

Does the black slab *vibrate gently* while emitting a low hum?

Stephen Wells

But not the *whole* master plan. We all know that an Anh/Fairy Girl/Black Slab Emitting A Low Hum/Melon/Bleminda polycule is the real endgame here. It's just so obvious.

BookBeard

Yeah, there's no way her dad knows about it yet. It takes 48 hours for her to get a response from his assistants assistant about the possibility of a hypothetical meeting with him, and she only decided to move across the country yesterday.

BookBeard

It's not Mad Science anymore it's Angry Engineering!

Opus the Poet

@Stephen Wells, even if our bodies came with a warranty how long do you think it would be good for? The biblical three score and ten is a 70 life expectancy, how much of that would be within warranty?

Opus the Poet

I am confused as to how she managed that, tbh xD I wonder if some of the screwdrivers had rolled under dusty shelves and the like.

enchantedsleeper

Yeah, I'm excited for this to potentially inspire Anh to try and fuck shit up. Or at least reevaluate her background (and worldview beyond sexuality).

enchantedsleeper

@Bookbeard Heh, I guess so, but that depends on whether you want physical autonomy or not... And when you want to return to a mobile chassis, you still have to be able to afford that (or afford the repairs to your old one).

enchantedsleeper

oof. i see anh's been getting the same stellar level of service

Boots McGoot

if I could change what substrate the information system that was Me ran on, you can be sure I'd have multiple backups! Use save stations - live forever!

Kith penDragon

Technically they don't *have* to deal with it, since even if their chassis breaks completely their brain can still run out of a datacenter. Perhaps not an ideal scenario depending on their situation, but as a meat-robot whose chassis is always breaking in new and interesting ways, I must say the option of taking a month or two off from having a physical body sounds rather delightful.

BookBeard

We've seen conventionally "robotic" AIs, like Jeremy, with servomotors and gears and wires; and what are clearly deliberately human-like bodies with artificial skeleton and muscle (e.g. Millie's leg fracture and butt enhancement). And we know the designers have implemented some orifices purely for fun :) so the human emulation is deliberate. I'd assume that things would be a lot different inside the chest and abdomen - coolant pump and battery packs rather than heart/lung/intestine.

Stephen Wells

Definitely porn!

Donna Flint

I don't see that as much of an advantage, though, considering *gestures at comic*

enchantedsleeper

Organic bodies don't come with a warranty *at all*!

Stephen Wells

Try asking Yay.

Donna Flint

I see she came back with three candidates. I wonder what made her think one of those three were it.

Donna Flint

She'll just get the control-costs-to-enhance-shareholder-value, economic-realities, speech from her dad, probably with a (metaphorical) condescending pat on the head. How *she* reacts to the realities of corporate decision making would be the interesting question 🙂

Pete Jordan

Porn.

Pete Jordan

Sentient AI... unreliable mechanised bodies falling apart... cybernetic limbs... and of course powerful corporations... QC ticks off a surprising number of the biggest cyberpunk tropes; it's just got a brighter visual palette than you would normally expect xD

enchantedsleeper

You've rumbled Jeph's master plan! So here for it.

enchantedsleeper

I actually didn't notice that until you mentioned it, nice!

SilverbackRon

Anh's dad's assistant's assistant normally gets back to her within 48 hours, but we don't know whether they typically brush her off when they do (I'm willing to bet that's the case). Still, I'm sure Roko would work with that.

enchantedsleeper

I wonder if Anh has siblings. It would be interesting to know who's in line to take over different parts of the empire. Though she's probably just expected to marry some dude who will run the businesses.

enchantedsleeper

Bubbles returns, they talk about Roko and AI rights -> Anh joins Roko's campaign -> Anh and Roko have an ill-judged but inevitable sapphic fling -> Yay returns through the power of jealousy.

Stephen Wells

Three years for a part of your body. That's genuinely horrifying. Also, what kind of lifespan do QC AIs have? Presumably it could be infinite if nothing happens to their processor core, so - they have to deal with this pretty much infinitely?

enchantedsleeper

BookBeard: Thank you for your service sir! 🫡

Freid

Ooh ooh, is this how Ayo's crime fighting story actually comes true? xD

enchantedsleeper

I can imagine that it's going to come into play pretty soon. I doubt anything major has happened yet but I can see Roko at least mentioning it in passing.

enchantedsleeper

It shows she's probably pretty naiive if she doesn't realise that having parts that wear out quickly (and conveniently just after the warranty expires) is by design. I wonder how she'll react to learning that information.

enchantedsleeper

@Andrew Omg, I can see that being the case xD

enchantedsleeper

I guess she's not on the outs with him yet, despite having apparently up and left to move across the country 🤔 (Although judging by the "assistant's assistant" he's probably too disconnected to be bothered about that).

enchantedsleeper

Due back anyyyy minute now

enchantedsleeper

She's really trying to find a left-handed screwdriver? (I don't care; I still believe in Anh.)

Chris Warren

I think it's percent

Lara

The plural is actually 'buttsfor'

Arto Rantala

In the new timeline, Anh will Release The Virus.

Captain Button

Ah it makes more sense that Ahn works with Roko on robot rights instead of sweeping Faye's shop. Maybe Anh's dad gets upset that she's making bad PR for one of his companies, cuts her off financially.

PostRetroism

Bubbles and Crushbot are spending quality time together.

PostRetroism

I'm sure it's better in Canada, but I have a feeling that robot healthcare in Cubetown might lean a bit... mad sciency.

BookBeard

It seems to depend quite a bit on the type of chassis. Millefeuille's insides were remarkably human-like, but Punchbot's internals are more traditionally robotic i.e. a metal housing full of wires. https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=4414 https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3595

BookBeard

Her initial response may be “Oh, the Philomena was modelled on me!”, but she’ll catch on quick.

Andrew

If I have my timeline right, this is at the same time as Bubbles visits Roko

Bagge

I mean, she'll probably be able to get a box of replacements for free, which is a better deal than May got from Hannelore getting her dad involved

Bagge

I'm thinking about knees specifically.

Opus the Poet

All of them are right ones, unfortunately she was supposed to find the left one.

BookBeard

Well, props to her for immediately trying to do something about it. To me, that’s enough not to draw any ire. And while I’m sure she believes she can make a difference, what she said sounds like it’s not going to help much.

Thisguy

I just need to get mine repaired, a minor surgery but I have to find someone to do it.

Opus the Poet

And where, I wonder, is Bubbles. inquiring minds want to know!

Joseph Bonnar

Is that metric or imperial sizes?

William Cole

Yeah! Like those butt fibers we saw getting replaced with Sam observing.

Andrew Mitchell

A buttfor is so you aren't exploding after a huge meal of lima beans and cabbage.

Joseph Bonnar

Thank you for your service!

Andrew Mitchell

I have a question. What's a buttfor?😆 Someone had to ask! I volunteered to throw myself on the joke!

alphanor

I think if you're trying to build a human-like frame you're probably going to run into some common design patterns that surface naturally, for lack of a better word.

Uniquitous

Anh hah!

Stewart MacWilliam

Nope.

Matthew Reiter

Dang, Dang!

Sam Shores

Haha she's coming back with all the screwdrivers XD One of them must be the right one!

mooviies

Ah - now we see why Anh is around. This is going to loop back to the Roko robot's rights storyline. Which is great but it's certainly time to check back in on that.

David Durant

Biodiesel?

Populuxe

Can I ❤️ this a few more times?

Ailadi

living for the anh arc rn

Cozy

Great I 2 days to spare.

Jose Alfredo Villalobos

"Oh wait, this *literally* is crap, never mind."

Rich Holmes

Butt did she find the buttfors?

TV4Fun

Don’t forget the ridiculous & ridiculously sexy mobile to match!!!

Melissa Wilson

@Harsh and Joan: QCigi (pronounced like the letters "Q C G" with stress and a little extra "ee" (sounded as in "Wii") after the "C")

tellumo

This gets me wondering, how much different from human anatomy is AI chassis anatomy? Did the designers go through human anatomy and said "This is crap, how can we do better?"

Opus the Poet

Seems comparable to the distance between Hanners & her female progenitor. Perhaps it’s a mathematical constant? But what would they call it… Dang’s distance? Blueblood ratio? Coefficient of disinterest? Heiress’s apple-fall range?

Melissa Wilson

Maybe Ahn could use a tutorial from Hanners in family relations?

FreeReedz

Awww, sweety!

Vilinda

What do you think fueled the singularity in the first place?

Rich Holmes

I know. I’m sick of these conservative freaks pretending Elon is some genius, when he’s proven to be an extremely lucky fascist idiot.

Andrea Andrew

Except Elon doesn't understand engineering, or anything else he pretends to know anything about.

Ohh Crap Guy

"Weird, *they're* not returning my texts *either*."

Rich Holmes

Indeed. This would be an excellent opportunity for an update on how that's going too. (hint hint, Jeph ;) https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=4305

BookBeard

One of those screwdrivers is a lefty, ain’t it?

Melissa Wilson

So that's what Yay's been up to. 😅

Emma Humphries

The weird domino effect of Anh having a bi-awakening leading to her accidentally being the nation's leading embodied-AI rights advocates

CthonicBelletrist

Hope Anh's noble streak lasts a while -- we need more rich people with an actual conscience who are willing to lift their game. (Unfortunately she's also impulsive and erratic. So I'm hopeful, but I'm also not holding my breath)

Shannon Woodbury

I love that Anh already has signs of dirt and dust on her.... she's been there all of an hour and she's getting her hands dirty... Jeph working it so we all start to peel back the layers of that particularly pungent onion...

Munk33 Magic

It seems Anh wasn't completely bullshitting when she said she "knew all about robots and stuff". https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=5515 Well, she could still be bullshitting, as in she is an heiress to the FutureLife company, but possibly has little to no technical experience. She doesn't strike me as being particularly proficient in tech skills. I think she put all her proficiency points into shopping and snobbery.

SilverbackRon

She came back with ✨options✨

Kristina

My rotator cuff also needs replacing.

lilibat

Maybe Anh should take a lesson from her crush and not wait for that appointment. https://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3637

BookBeard

Only 48 hours and two layers of assistants!

Mad Marie

Hanners's Dad wrote a letter about that.

Bill Silvia

Jeph, are you saying she has plain ol' Dextrocardia, or full-on Situs Inversus?

Mad Marie

Oh! Plot!

The World Famous Chocomerican

Post-singularity doesn’t mean post-greed.

Populuxe

man the QC version of Luigi is going to be *nuts*

Harsh and Joan

Na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na Bat Anh!

Sean Kinlin

Well she’s clearly very close to her father.

Taigan

"Anh's heart grew .03 sizes that day."

Sean Kinlin

Anh is willing to work for free, has inside connections at a major robot chassis manufacturer, and actually gives a shit about AI rights? Faye, you give her Roko's number this damn second!

BookBeard

That's not a left-handed screwdriver

Elberik

That seems literally impossible.

Miyaa

oh no she's winning me over

David

She’s like if Elon Musk actually developed a conscience.

Andrea Andrew

No kink shaming!

Amelia Lewis

OK, starting to warm up to Ahn. Not the brightest bulb by any means, definitely not acting on this in the best way, but she sees the injustice and she's immediately not standing for it.

Alias Fakename

i think they'll stick around, it's not like they can stick 'em up right now (rotator cuff joke)

LH

'I think these screwdrivers are all ambidextrous - will they do?'

Diptych

The one with the hamster?

Diptych

How many times have they told her that her worthless, shitty, dilettante life is contingent on defrauding machine intelligences?

Emma Humphries

I’m a little disappointed that she didn’t rise to the buttfor bait.

Alex Ives

They clearly need socialise body are for everyone.

Andrew Mitchell

it's probably better in Cubetown (because Canada)

LH

Seems simpler at least though. Human shoulder surgery is more involved, and I don't think you can fully remove the arm.

zbot

I stand by my earlier *facepalm*.

Doc Gumby

All Anh needs now is a ward and a bat costume

SpookyPenguin

Don't tell anyone but Hanners would impressed by Ahn going off like this on her Dad's business.

ValdVin

wait...is her dad that Eland Minsk guy?

Ben R

Not a very safe place for a heart to be when Faye has immediate access to power tools.

Orion Rhine

Night City when

Ting

I mean, at least she's using her heiress powers for good?

Jenea Ylinen Fredrickson

Awww anh is trying

Cancertopia

Oh no. Anh is gonna feel the Anh-gony.

Miyaa

Is this going to involve a plane trip and a robot horse?

Bill Silvia

Even robot healthcare is shit

Hope

Not for much longer!

Kenneth Carlile

Found a whole bunch of left handed screwdrivers!

Jamieson


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