Secret Song RE-FATHOMING: Philadelphia, PA

You Are In Love and This Love are 2 of my favourite songs of all time. 🩵🩵

Breezy Bumbles

I also thought the “Eagles t-shirt” was referring to the band and I am from Canada so I know the team exists. But what is sports?

Breezy Bumbles

I think Matty was the one who requested “Hey Stephen”. Never mind…you just said this!!!!!

Breezy Bumbles

There is really nothing quite like watching these after TTPD came out and maybe knowing what we know now about the impact that MH seems to have had on our girl. It makes me want to scream and also laugh at how incomplete the picture is before TTPD. I need to calm down during the first 20 minutes or so of every refathoming:)

Megan C

I’m new to your Patreon so catching up on your videos as my new hyper focus lol, and it just made me so happy that you said that if you know Come Back…Be Here you’re a true fan because it’s honestly one of my favourite songs and has been since Red came out. Thanks for the validation ladies lol

Laura Houston

tbh? fathoming this love as a song about the fans...... her performing it right after gushing about how much she loves the crowd and doesn't want the night to end vs her hiding herself away for years & not being able to tour as "these hands had to let it go free," and now the eras tour is that love coming back to her.

angel

Hii PA swiftie here!Philadelphia is Taylor’s closest hometown show. Pittsburgh is the one that is 5 hours from where she grew up, and on the other side of the state. Philly is an hour and a halfish from Reading. Philly is also pretty close to NJ beaches she used to go to as a little kid. I grew up about 40 minutes from Taylor. The mall Andrea took her to in The Best Day was the King of Prussia Mall, which is the mall I grew up going to. King of Prussia the city, is my hometown! I was at Night 3 😭. So lots of lore 💚

Brittany Fitzgerald

Also, we did get the best champagne problems speech.

Brittany DeLara

Omg, Philly night 3 was great hair weather. I was there. My hair was still perfect at the end of the night.

Brittany DeLara

I've always thought gold rush was a Harry song!

Farah Canicosa

Emily, I completely agree. Taylor got less chatty and more emotional once the distraction was gone. There’s simply no way that depth of sadness was for rebound bro.

Emily Miller

you missed her adorable little smile at the end of Come Back Be Here cuz u were both taking notes

Nin

if anyone fr had that "Emily, I know CBBH" thought, babe you're on the patreon of a swiftie channel

Nin

i just found out about austin's job too! my roommate works for movie marketing for NBC universal, so turns out she had ootw tv for months before everyone else bc they were using it in a new trailer. she said they fully got the file from a dropbox link that austin sent them hahah

Anika W

I do understand where you two are coming from with the Travis is as big as Taylor debate. Internationally, no they are not on the same level, but as an American, people hold Travis up to the same spotlight as Taylor, BUT in their perspective fields. That's just my take. Travis holds the #1 TE spot and several other world records as well as being well-recognized throughout the US. That being said, on an international level, Travis is nowhere near the level of fame that Taylor has!

Clare Heathman

thanks so much for going back and re-fathoming this show… this was actually the show i went too so it was so fun!! and these secret songs where so perfect in my opinion Come Back… Be Her… is my favorite song from red so i cried so hard when she played this… haha

Hailey&Madison_h

is gold rush maybe about Harry and not Joe?

Arne Cabigas

Oh my heart... "The best day" is also very special to me, I don't know how to explain it, it's just one of these song that I physically can't skip if it's start even tho it's not the mood, I Have to listen. I too have a very complicated relationship with my mother and Taylor and Andrea's relationship just warm my heart (but also it breaks it a little bit, if you know, you know). Bonny in moments like this I just want to give you a hug 💜

Adélaïde K

I love that you guys are still talking about losing out on ivy, because so am I and I will never get over it.

Abbi Reineccius

I'm American but I live in Perth Australia for 11 years now, and I was never really into NFL, but I got into AFL when I moved here, and I LOVE that my team is the West Coast Eagles (not this season!) when I sing the Gold Rush lyric. I also love that Tay's boyfriend's name is Kelce (as mine is Kelsey) and his number is 87, since that is the year I was born. Makes me mega clown

Kelsey

I love her clarifying joke during her talk at the start of the first Philly night, because when she said "anything could happen", if feels like she is hinting at the amazing announcements of SNTV and 1989TV at this point of the show in the coming months!

Kelsey

wait I just remembered I watched it and completely forgot 😂 but can we please have a re-fathoming bc there's a lot being said in the intro on the TV concerning the timeline of their relationship. curiosity launched in late 2011, over 10 lonely years on the Red planet, from the kenedy space center(taylor dating conor kennedy in btwn dating harry) idk if these are all coincidences 🙃

kristine yu

they did react to satellite! <3 https://www.patreon.com/posts/music-video-for-83562931

Kara Jorgenson

can you guys PLEASE watch/react to harry style's satellite music video bc of the ties to taylor(the intro, the eagles/gold rush street signs). fathoming satellite helped me to fathom more of 1989/the 1/question/maroon...and the mv was released a few weeks before the philly weekend!! also...gold rush > delicate beginning rush 😭

kristine yu

ty for including the mother's day speech, i needed to relive being in that crowd literally wearing a "mother is mothering" bracelet !!

sofia

gold rush!!

kate

There's so much to fathom. Enjoy!

Joe Weaver

I agree with Emily, Fearless makes me want to vomit too

Natalia

BEST DAY ALWAYS MAKING ME CRY

Illeana Sabbagh

Just joined your Patreon 🥹 Can’t wait to watch all the content here!! ALSO THAT NIGHT KILLED ME WITH THE SURPRISE SONGS 😭

Dara Sofia

night 2 songs - Forever and always (she thought joe was her forever) then this love (marty healy came back to her?)

Juliana Martinez

which song?

Juliana Martinez

Pretty sure Question...? is next weekend in Foxborough. And we get another rain show. Anyway. Another lovely video. I'm done now. Bye.

Joe Weaver

Mother's Day was in Philadelphia and then Father's Day was in Pittsburgh. Pennsylvania got them both. ❤️

Joe Weaver

I remember Hey Stephen cause it was a big deal that Matty said it was his favorite song somewhere. This was a very bizarre time....oh ok you just said this as I was typing (thanks Bonny)

Joe Weaver

It's hard to conceive that Red TV is almost an hour longer than 1989 TV. It's a massive album.

Joe Weaver

Also, as someone who fathomed 9 albums in a fairly short time. I did listen to everything & digest as much as I could but I'm not going to lie and say I'm an expert on every song on Debut cause while I've listened to them, I wouldn't be able to sing along to all of them at all. There's only so much room in your brain. Which is why Debut TV is very exciting so we'll all get a chance to really experience it.

Joe Weaver

People in the US do not understand that our version of football isn't that popular outside of North America. Which is probably why it's confusing for people in the rest of the world to understand its the most popular sport here & its not close. But of course Taylor is far more famous than Travis both in the US & everywhere else.

Joe Weaver

(TS is from Reading((pronounced Redding), PA which is a smaller satellite town close to the major city of Philly. She claims Philly as her hometown as it's the closest city to her growing up. In the video you referenced Philly being on the other side of PA, I think you are actually describing Pittsburgh, PA. Philly and Pitt are on the complete other sides of PA similar to how Nashville and Memphis share a state but are on opposite ends.)

Al

I went to Philly night 3 and this had me crying all over again!! The fearless nostalgia was too much to handle and the best day had me so in my feels 💛

Emma

I fell to my knees that weekend because This Love is my absolute stan song since 1989 came out. People who got This Love??? On the PIANO??? Lucky lucky lucky. Wishful thinking but I hope one day I get to hear her sing it live 😭💔

Miantsa

ALSO…I would love nothing more to be like 80 years old, Taylor 70, & she releases a book called Lovers & Lyrics where she gives us ALLLLLLLLLLLLL the details we don’t know 😜🫣

Lively_Ash

I appreciated the mothering talk as well as someone who didn’t have a good mom, but now I’m the mom to my kids I wish I would’ve had💛

Lively_Ash

music nerd thing here, but she doesn’t change keys for the verse like she does in the real song!! it would be a hard change acoustically with it being just her so i totally understand but it makes the song sound so different and it’s so cool!!

kate

Just wanted to comment something that might help you fathom the next set of secret songs in Foxborough. I'm pretty sure the last Matty Healy sighting was right before she left for Foxborough and then I don't think they were seen together again. In my head she dumped him then. 😂 Also Foxborough is Gillette stadium- her first stadium show and what inspired Long Live. Holiday House/Rhode Island is also in New England which is the part of the US that Foxborough is in and she commented on it briefly when she sang TLGAD. Love your videos as always!

Jess D

Never thought about gold rush being about Harry but the 1 is definitely about him for me!!

tatiana

OMG 100%

tatiana

YES!! I said that on first listen!! The vault tracks gave so many the 1 vibes!!

tatiana

Me too!! I'm kind of wondering now if there's a 2-3 songs per album situation and we're gonna be able to link songs easier with the next vault tracks!! Because Question and Labyrinth definitively give me 1989 vibe now!!

tatiana

matty healy’s fav song is hey stephen so that was TEA

Autumn Atencio

phoebe requested this cuz Taylor resides in NY and Matty in London...

Ashley

It's criminal that Goldrush isn't on the Evermore set list (along with Ivy).

Katrina

The Marjorie lights actually began in Atlanta, night two! I was there 💚

Suzi Davenport

Gold Rush acoustic version made me crave evermore Long Pond Sessions EVEN MORE!!! Taylor pleaseeeeeeee 🙏🏻

Katie K

No I’m so sorry but (for me) in 8 days we will see her again on the eras tour… can’t believe this months flew by this easy with all that happened 🥹🥹🥹🥹

alex

LOL pennsylvania’s two biggest cities being pittsburgh and philadelphia is a cruel joke on everyone! as an american, i continuously fuck that up lol. BUT philly is only an hour from Reading, so this is technically hometown!

Kristen

CBBH isn't about Harry....search for "The meaning of Come Back Be Here " on Reddit and there's a post from years back that will explain how it really doesn't make sense that it's about him. It's most likely about Zac Efron.

Emma H

So interesting to keep in mind that next week (Foxborough) was the week before You're Losing Me came out. The Question...? speech about her being happy etc in hindsight felt like her saying 'I'm about to release a sad song but I'm all good' (even if she still had fathoming and sadness left to go through)

Rose Ellen

Because of the 1989 re-release, people are really going overboard with the Haylor theories and trying to make every song she's ever released about him. Guys, I get it, but they dated for about three months in 2012-2013 and were talking for a few months more than that. I've seen all the timelines trying to make it a multi-year on/off relationship but it just wasn't even if it had a big impact on them. Most of it is just fans trying to make things mean something when they don't. That said, I'm not sure who Gold Rush is about but I do think it could be about Joe and her fear of abandonment that stems from the Haylor stuff. She's sang about everybody wanting Joe like you mentioned in Lover and it doesn't matter if fans don't think everybody wants Joe - she loved him and wanted him so of course she would have insecurities about that based on her past. Also, I saw a Reddit thread that breaks down how Come Back...Be Here can't possibly be about Harry but how it makes sense to be about Zac and I agree with that. I highly encourage people to search for it - it's easy to find if you Google.

Emma H

Tied together with a smile is SUPERIORRRRR, howww did she write that so young ?!

Ramon❀°。

I love the debut album. It will be the most different re-recording since her vocals will be so different. I’m dying for Tied Together With A Smile to be re-recorded 😊

Tess7

I think the anxiety portrayed in Gold Rush & Lover of everyone wanting Joe and Taylor potentially losing him to other girls, comes from her trauma with dating Harry. In “Slut!” she says “Everyone wants him, that was my crime” ..and Is It Over Now suggests that Harry may have cheated or been tempted to cheat. And because she did end up losing Harry to his fuckboy ways, i could see her being extremely anxious to want to hold onto Joe and this love they created, and fearing that she might lose him the same way 😢

Jessica

Yes, she's a Gemini. Bonny is a Cancer.

Joe Weaver

thank you for continuing the secret song re-fathomings! i'm very much enjoying these videos. you feed us so well we're spoiled! 💛☺️👑👑

Jaimie C

Funnily enough I went to Reading, PA a few weeks ago because my boyfriend’s sister lives there! It is sooo beautiful, very evermore like especially this time of year

dmarie

“I see your profile and your smile on unsuspecting waiters” and “I thought I saw you at the bus stop, I didn’t though” just had to make that connection

dmarie

Yes! And with the new lyric from Sl*t! - “Everyone wants him”

Nic

With these new vault tracks it has seriously made me fathom that Labyrinth and definitely Question…? could be about Harry with the themes and melodies. Especially with her asking the QUESTION Is It Over Now?

Nic

I actually did, too, and I am an American. But my family are huge Eagles fans (the band) so whenever I hear The Eagles, that's where my brain goes.

Jenny MacRunnel

Same. The whole sound and vibe of the song feels like being on the beach. Love it!

Jenny MacRunnel

i've always seen the "everybody wants you" & "i'm highly suspicious that everyone who sees you wants you" lines as more of a projection of her own insecurities. also just a natural thing to believe when YOU want someone so desperately.. it's kind of like, "surely everyone else must feel this passionately about them?! because it's quite concerning!!"

Bridget Mac

geminis and cancers <3

molly phipps

she is!

molly phipps

Same! The way she crafts that feeling is just one of the many superior things about This Love!

River

The Outside and the Place in this world girlies ARE DROOLINGGGG AT THE THOUGHT OF TV!!

Ramon❀°。

This Love has always sounded like waves crashing to me. “This love is (wave pulling back) good (wave crashing) this love is (wave pulling back) bad (wave crashing)”

dmarie

Gemini i believe !!

CamilleC

I need to know Emily’s zodiac sign because she is so funny when she’s being chaotic! Like with the Joe comment “I don’t want him” hahaaaa

Marissa Herrera

ttpd-24

I've always wondered who "come back... be here" was about... the other day I stumbled into this tiktok that summarised the whole relationship timeline between Taylor and Harry and they made a VERY convincing point that it's about him. She supposedly wrote it after they first met at the kids choice awards in April 2012. I'm going to link it here if you are curious: https://www.tiktok.com/@theswiftsource/video/7295120579680587041?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7094324261247010309

Anna Miotello

THANKS FOR THE DEBUT LOVE I AM SUCH A DEBUT GIRLIE THE OUTSIDE IS ONE OF MY FAV SONGS OF ALL TIME ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

izzy

I fell into the Haylor side of TikTok last night and I now also think Gold Rush is about Harry. I'm not so sure about some of the other post 1989 songs that were being tagged but that one had a lot of reciepts. I am completely unfamiliar with 1D music and also most of Harry's solo work outside of the singles. The most fascinating part to me was just how many parallel lyrics and song titles the two of them have. I also had no idea they had met prior to Red's release but they did which also lends credibility to IKYWT and Treacherous being about Harry.

Clash Fan

after 1989 TV it solidified (for me anyway) that gold rush is about Mr Styles as she says the same thing on one of the vault songs - that her only crime was wanting him when everyone else wanted him too. I think The 1 is likely about him too. Those 1989 TV vault songs are ICONIC.

renee

Come back be here is def about Harry too, “you’re in London and I break down cus it’s not fair that you’re not around”

Sacred_sunflower

Wait it's so interesting we don't have the same songs associated to x boyfriends. I know it's something that fans don't always like to talk about cause her music is not just "who's that about?!" But i feel it's a safe place and you guys like the tea 😆 for exemple, to me Come back be here always been about Harry when they met in 2012. IKYWT and treatcherous about John Mayer. But yeah girl at home is a big ?? Even alvira didn't know and it shows. Maybe Matty's connection to this love is the "tossing, turning with someone new" wait that would mean the guy's been rebound twice 💀

CamilleC

Philadelphia is close to where Taylor grew up. You are thinking of the Pittsburg shows that is on the other side of the state. I live about one hour away from the Christmas free farm where she grew up.

debra schane

Hair fallin’ into place come on, it’s Harry’s long hair! And all the references to dreams = WILDEST DREAMS 🤩

Sacred_sunflower

Gold rush is a haylor song!! Think about it!! “It will never be” it’s NOT about joe. EVERYONE wanted Harry when 1D fans were crazy

Sacred_sunflower

emily i hope you know how blessed you are that you've met Andrea

Katie LaFave

Having 1989 TV now and this weekend songs pairing and the Satellite mv.. i'm seeing some things 👀 plus indeed Emily noone wanted Joe on the other hand.. a certain Mr styles

CamilleC

My theory is that the I Don't Wanna Live Forever night (and other visibly sad nights) WERE about Matty but in a fuck I'm going to be alone forever what have I done way. The backlash from the media really threw her right back in that fish bowl, and all the excitement and hopefulness she had been feeling were now the bone crush a la Gold Rush. So she's mourning both relationships, but even more so having a lil existential dread moment that comes from being 33 and newly single when the last time you "dated" you were 26 and still felt like the whole world was ahead of you. (Not saying 33 is old at all--I too am a 1989er--just that the transition can be jarring). Little did she know Trav was right around the corner, a reminder to us all that you never know what life has in store!

Kristin Lohr

Wait I think that’s a good Patreon vid idea! Ranking songs you wish u could ask Taylor any questions about !

Ramon❀°。

No because I would do ANYTHING to experience Debut TV with Em in person I feel like she’s the only one who would get it .😔😟😔

Ramon❀°。

Come back, be here gives me Debut songs I AM A DEBUT STANNNN!! I feel like if you know all the debut songs by lyric you’re a TRUEEE fan

Ramon❀°。

I’m pretty sure Bonny said the same thing about Andrea crying somewhere in the og reaction lol

kaydee89

“I don’t want him” 🤣

Hannah Landrum

Yes, for some of us hearing the Eagles t-shirt was for the Philadelphia Eagles was very exciting news. Then she goes and dates the brother of a Philadelphia Eagle. 😂

Joe Weaver

emily i think you did say when you guys did the fearless breakdown, you said you would love to know who superstar is about, but girl at home is a good one too

Katie LaFave

I completely agree that we are witnessing the rebound high - she was numbing herself to the hurt and reassuring herself that there would be love in her life again. She quickly figured out that Matty was not exactly the kind of love she wanted/needed long term, and then she slides into the actual grieving phase for Joe. He was the kind of love she saw herself with forever and she is then dealing with the reality that it's not going to happen. ...I can't wait to see her energy now that Travis is in the picture, and especially if he goes to her first show in Argentina as he is rumored to be planning. Squeeeee

Candy

i loveeee come back be here!! i will say though the bridge is a popular tiktok trend with the new york and london part

Katie LaFave

I was watching you guys break down the song Maroon when this notice popped up lol I had to finish that video first, it’s just so fun with the chaotic beginning, the Red album attacking, trying to say “maroon” then the serious deep dive into the lyrics 😀 I remember the Philly weekend had the clarification of the Eagles tee shirt. As a Steelers fan, I overlook that and pretend it’s the band the Eagles lol

Tess7

I always took "Eagles T-shirt" as in the band The Eagles. LOL

Lisa

LOVE travis, but go birds (eagles)

Halie

Part of me thinks Gold Rush is about Harry… and the fact that in the DAYLIGHT music videos he shows a sign of two streets that are GOLD RUSH and EAGLE DRIVE…. Like come onnnnnnnn 😭😭😭

Christine Violet

dead at you guys trying to figure out where philly is 😂

Halie

'whats with her creating a narrative about everybody wanting Joe' damn Emily you cooked him 💀💀

Laura Stimpfl

GOLD RUSH was so underrated. Literally one of the best songs she’s ever written.

GIE

Bonnie: I mean he’s quite attractive Emily: I don’t want him! 🤣🤣🤣

Farrell Peka

besties!!!! so happy to see your reaction 🩵🩵🩵

Generi Talens

What an era!! My partner can’t get me to shut up about it 🩵🩵🩵🩵🩵

Derick Mitchell Matthews

ahhh i’ve been waiting for the philly ones!!! night 1 and 3🫶🏼

Selena

My weekend finally! I went Saturday and was sooooo happy to get This Love. Probably my favorite deep cut from 1989 🩵

Seth & Brent