SECRET SONGS Reaction: Philadelphia, PA (Night 1)
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Emily fathoming the link between gold rush and Labyrinth in 2023 👀👀👀👀
Allie
2025-04-13 16:24:43 +0000 UTCthis is just another of the examples of misinformation. his band mates cutting him off on stage is literally a planned bit! it's a joke that he's in on! the entire band plans those, them cutting him off IS A JOKE. and the "racist remarks" were literally said by someone else and attributed to him. the Nazi salute? it was criticizing Kanye and Trump for being actual Nazis. as a queer leftist woman, who's an anti-zionist Jew myself, I find this entire thing ridiculous. Matty is an idiot and a jerk. the majority of what people complain about with him comes from a game of telephone, things he never said, words being put in his mouth, or instances with the important context removed. just the irony is insane. should he have done and said everything he actually did do and say? of course not, but when you read the things people are always complaining about? it's always the ones that are outright lies or mischaracterizations. Things he never even said, that were actually said by a different person entirely! You couldn't plan a better smear campaign against this guy! 😂 I have no love for Matty, but it's actually laughable the lies people spread about it. Taylor knew this person better than you and I ever will, so yeah, it's none of our business who she dates, because it has nothing to do with us. if you don't want to support someone you obviously have that right but this entire thing is so hypocritical with how many lies have been spread about Taylor over the years. no, the personal dating lives of strangers, celebs or otherwise, don't concern us. They will always be judged on every little thing they say and do, and plenty of things they never said or did too, and the world will keep turning. there's no world in which "cancelling" people like them would have any positive effects on the world. it's a waste of time and energy, when there's actual activism we could be focusing on. Who celebs date is not on the list of important things we need to work on, it doesn't matter.
sleepless_dream
2024-12-17 19:29:50 +0000 UTCit wasn't supposed to be "funny", it was criticizing Kanye and Trump for being actual Nazis and/or Nazi supporters. Matty is an idiot and an asshole but he's not antisemitic, it's the opposite. I'm an anti-zionist Jew, and a very new Swift fan. I have a BFA, a bachelors in fine arts, and lots of art is uncomfortable or disturbing, and that's the point. If people are more offended by him doing the salute while making a point about ACTUAL Nazis, than they are upset by the ACTUAL Nazi supporter they just voted into office, then you can see exactly the kind of environment that he's critiquing, one that cares more about looking and seeming respectable on the outside while caring less about what's actually happening with the rise of fascism in this country. which should we be angrier at: art that critiques Nazis or actual Nazis? again, he's an idiot, he made plenty of mistakes, and he seems to be a jerk too. But the Nazi salute being used to critique Nazis, while it was obviously dumb because it got immediately twisted online into him BEING a Nazi himself, is just one of the many stunts he's always done. Because he's been open about his outward appearances being performance art, he even pretended to be drunker at shows than he is. He's a weirdo, but he's not anti-Semitic. sorry, but there's no evidence to suggest otherwise.
sleepless_dream
2024-12-17 19:03:53 +0000 UTCCan you rewatch your Philly night 1 you legit called out TTPD without even knowing it 🤯
Kaci
2024-06-15 01:45:43 +0000 UTCComing back to the ts11 pre fathom is sooooo interestinggggg
Momo
2024-06-10 03:43:23 +0000 UTCoh boy....watching this 2 days after TTPD comes out is a lot to fathom!!!
pearcemcmahon13
2024-04-22 00:29:59 +0000 UTC“Whenever that day comes” ahhhh April 19th!!! 🤍📖🪶📚🖋👻
Sacred_sunflower
2024-02-09 21:54:42 +0000 UTCi’m new to patreon but this was my show :)
Ben
2023-06-12 22:30:31 +0000 UTCJust joined with help from daughter. Anyway, TS was raised in Wyomissing(sp?), PA, right outside of Philly. I think she said she had a house right don the road. She moved to n’ville when she was like 13-14.
KS
2023-06-01 09:06:24 +0000 UTCWhy do people have to scream the lyrics like that 😕 girl....just sing 😅
Abrielle Wright
2023-05-15 14:43:35 +0000 UTCI agree completely with you. As for the ignorant idiot part it almost comes with the territory of being a Manchester band. He is following in the footsteps of the likes of Morrissey and the Gallagher brothers. The thing is he isn't that talented. The 1975 does not rank with The Smiths and Oasis. Robbie Williams is also from that area and started out in a Manchester band as a teen. He has quite the history idiocy along with drug and alcohol addictions. These are the people this guy is emulating himself after. If he is as bad as everyone is worried he is then he isn't going to last long. He will say something to piss her off and that will be that.
Clash Fan
2023-05-15 05:26:38 +0000 UTCSnaps for this comment 🫰
Becca C
2023-05-15 03:34:54 +0000 UTCCome back, be here is such an underrated one : I have always loved it !
Becca C
2023-05-15 03:30:07 +0000 UTCthank you <33
aiyla
2023-05-14 21:51:27 +0000 UTCI mean, he's an entertainer. Would someone making the nazi salute as part of a play be thought of as controversial? What sometimes we seem to forget is that singers are often playing a part. They are performers too. And I wouldn't classify someone playing the part of someone who is a problematic person - in front of fans who know and understand the context - as problematic. The media has now taken that out of context, and I'm not sure if that is more a representation of how he is problematic or how the media actually is. Celebrities aren't supposed to be perfect
Sara _
2023-05-14 21:08:48 +0000 UTCTaylor is just a person in the end, who, like we, is learning along the way ... we have to let her live and be and make mistakes ... people learn, evolve, change ... maybe that will happen even wigth matty.
Jasna
2023-05-14 13:12:52 +0000 UTCI understand what you mean but I truly don’t see it that way personally, especially with the *context* of the song (which as I mentioned is progressive and I think it goes over some peoples heads) everyone interprets things differently! And whilst I honestly back him and the things he openly speaks up about (there’s a whole range of things) I can 100% agree his execution falls flat sometimes!! I just think it’s a tough time online at the moment, it’s hard being in 2 fandoms that overlap when people so strongly hate 😭
Hannah13
2023-05-14 12:08:58 +0000 UTCWell, he didn’t date him.😅 If Taylor would just work with him, I could handle this better, even though his music is meh for me.
Art3miS
2023-05-14 11:00:39 +0000 UTCExactly. He's so disgusting.
Anjie Crow
2023-05-14 10:24:31 +0000 UTCThere is no right context for making the nazi salute. I don't think Matty is a nazi but I think he's an ignorant idiot for doing this in public and thinking its funny (?) or okay.
Clara Schneider
2023-05-14 09:00:13 +0000 UTCIt’s really hard to see so much hatred towards Matty everywhere. I am a huge 1975 fan and when I came into that fandom I had a lot to learn as I knew he had been in some controversies and I wanted to be sure who I was supporting. 98% of everything he has “done” is not bad when you have the context around it. That is not to say he is perfect, he is far from it. But to continue with this narrative that he is a nazi etc is incorrect. He is incredibly progressive, more than taylor. Just because he doesn’t communicate through strategic PR ways we are used to, doesn’t mean he is to be dismissed. I beg you to look into more than the narrative YOU want to push. Do you truly want someone you admire to (possibly) break their own heart by not being with someone just because their fans are refusing to give him a chance and making their lives hell? There is SO much source material that people are choosing to ignore. Bon & Em, I hope you guys aren’t getting upset over the comments, keep doing you girls 🧡🧡
Hannah13
2023-05-14 07:53:58 +0000 UTCI’m dying to know what Matty has done now 😂 also isn’t it interesting how Jack has worked a lot with him and no one criticised his decisions.
Courtney
2023-05-14 06:52:11 +0000 UTCSo jealous of the secret songs y’all got!!!!
Guadalupe Trejo
2023-05-14 06:33:48 +0000 UTCAnd where is Bonny’s brown top from pls!! 🥰🥰
Natalie
2023-05-14 06:25:12 +0000 UTCWhen someone says they live "just down the road" from where they are - it's often just an expression to indicate you're a local and grew up and/or have lived not that far away...like "I'm one of you" sort of thing. So while it could be literal, it's often not meant to be too, literal - it could mean several miles away to even a town or more over. The driving distance between Reading, PA and Philadelphia, PA is about 63 miles or 101 kilometers. Hope this is helpful!
Nan
2023-05-14 03:39:17 +0000 UTCDo you honestly believe Matty is the worst person Taylor has rubbed elbows with? The music business, and Hollywood in general, is full of disgusting people and I'm sure Taylor has come across many of them. She has a reason for doing what she is doing. We don't have to like it or agree with it. Frankly, it's none of our business. What exactly is she doing? What exactly has she done? What is her motive? What is she to gain or lose? How will this affect her career? We don't know...but she does, and she has thought about it carefully. If Taylor has not lived up to YOUR conditions, throw out her albums, remove her from your Spotify account, unfollow her on social media, etc. She won't miss you, and neither will the rest of us who enjoy her music for music's sake.
Toni Elia
2023-05-14 02:44:40 +0000 UTCwhatttt
Juliana Martinez
2023-05-14 02:37:56 +0000 UTC🙋🏻♀️ Me too
Emzies
2023-05-14 02:29:24 +0000 UTCI think you made a really excellent point here. When tour started I remember thinking, wow she is SO smiley and happy, she's really hamming it up and she looks great doing it! Then when the breakup news came out I was truly SHOCKED at how impossible it was to tell while she's on stage that she's going through a breakup..... because she looks so freaking happy?? But I totally agree that if she's got someone who's behind her and building her up and making her feel good at this moment, maybe that's exactly what she needs to be able to put on a show and have people be none the wiser. I'd like to think it's more for her own mental stability than it is being petty and just showing it off to spite Joe.
Diana Perillo
2023-05-14 02:00:32 +0000 UTCLmao I'm so glad you said this. When i met my boyfriend he said his name is Joe but everyone calls him Joey (he was 37 at the time). And I remember being like, I absolutely the fuck not will be calling you Joey 😂
Diana Perillo
2023-05-14 01:38:04 +0000 UTCSweaty, because if nothing else it definitely describes him
Diana Perillo
2023-05-14 01:26:55 +0000 UTC😂 this made me laugh but it kinda makes sense too? just hope she is doing well and that she understands fans may see her in a different light now for associating with him
Charlotte Venton
2023-05-14 01:25:56 +0000 UTCWell said 👏
Diana Perillo
2023-05-14 01:24:32 +0000 UTCCancel culture sucks. Having said that, for fans that are really that upset of this Matty thing, to each their own. If you don't want to follow an artist for whatever reason, that is your right. That is very valid for you. I have nothing against any fan that wants to disengage from an artist, especially if they're dating someone suspect to racism like you all are saying. But if you start dictating that other fans have to agree with you or die, that's when you cross the line, and you are invalidating other people's love and experiences. Again, to each their own. Your feelings and ideas are valid, as are mine. We can agree to disagree without shaming or attacking each other. I also don't think that Em and Bonny were trying to invalidate your viewpoints at all, either. They were just giving their own. And we also have to remember that everything is never as it seems. If you weren't a Taylor fan in 2016, you probably took what Kanye, Kim, Calvin, and the media said about Taylor as gospel truth. And we all know that none of it was true. Keeping an open mind is very very important in life. Hating is bad, and also not very good for your own soul. Just my opinion.
Jenny MacRunnel
2023-05-14 01:13:22 +0000 UTCSad Beautiful Tragic is literally a top 10 all time song and this fandom collectively hates it and I'll never understand it 😩
Diana Perillo
2023-05-14 01:04:20 +0000 UTCSo I guess I am the only one. Trying to defend Taylor, but I guess that is a no no.
Richard
2023-05-14 00:56:44 +0000 UTCRichard…. what a rude comment to make.
Shondi
2023-05-14 00:44:09 +0000 UTCI’m purely talking about the optics here and what the media discourse will be. Essentially there is only one “real” issue here and that is the hurt and betrayal that her fans who have been directly affected by Matty’s comments feel. The rest is just opinion on her love life that at the end of the day is pretty worthless. Personally this whole situation makes me sad.
Jo
2023-05-13 23:04:40 +0000 UTCPLZ discuss in Harry’s new music video GOLD RUSH ST???
Kristin Nicole
2023-05-13 22:08:42 +0000 UTCBut keep in mind, so many of us have had our own Getaway Car scenarios or chaotic rebound choices and probably can count on one hand the number of people that had to know or got to know what was going on… most of us have the luxury of expressing our worst character traits in total privacy. Lots of great people have problematic coping mechanisms. Also keep in mind that there’s a strong possibility that most of the rumors are true and Joe ultimately chose privacy over his love for Taylor. To me, that’s REALLY damn painful to comprehend. Like, PHYSICALLY PAINFUL. And she’s got to stomach that reality not only in the public eye, but literally ON STAGE AT THE ERAS TOUR until AUGUST, lol… maybe she’s choosing him for reasons we don’t automatically see, because he makes her feel better/supported, or so she can feel strong enough to face the world every weekend on live stream… that takes SO much courage, and pretty much NONE of us have to do that. I’m just saying we don’t know what she’s going thru. Let’s love her THRU these relationships, like we always have before, and not just judge something we don’t fully know, and after only a few week too…
Jentallygirl
2023-05-13 21:52:54 +0000 UTCAntonia… I actually thought this today about “Question?”!!! See my comment below. She was kissed in a crowded room at a 1975 concert.
Starsonscars
2023-05-13 20:44:38 +0000 UTCI was there last night and she was phenomenal! I’m just happy if Taylor is happy!
Joni Salyer
2023-05-13 20:41:48 +0000 UTCMakes total sense to do Goldrush especially given that she apparently introduced it by confirming the Eagles t-shirt is a reference to the Eagles football team which is in Philadelphia, PA, and she’s literally performing in their stadium. Love the reference and the confirmation :)
Christiana Somers
2023-05-13 20:21:36 +0000 UTCToday is May 13 just saying........speaking of banners....
Safa
2023-05-13 20:08:12 +0000 UTCFr we know exactly who they're referring to when they say "you guys" I guess this is Taylor's OG YeeHaw fanbase huh 💀
Safa
2023-05-13 20:02:02 +0000 UTCSpeaking of banners - I'm gonna need someone at tonights show to do some investigative work for us around the 1989TV banner that was near her VIP guest tent. That revelation has me a bit concerned (in a good way) ha
Michael Grice
2023-05-13 20:01:56 +0000 UTCOr why they'd even be interested in joining a Patreon like this - This is supposed to be a place for constructive conversation around a topic hosted by creators we love. Joining to 'get people going' sounds weird
Michael Grice
2023-05-13 20:00:12 +0000 UTCTo change the subject a bit, beautiful new banner.
Jim Lent
2023-05-13 19:34:45 +0000 UTCI am more curious about why someone would "love getting you guys going. So easy." What is that even about?
Jim Lent
2023-05-13 19:34:43 +0000 UTCI've been a fan of Taylor since debut, I care who she dates because who she chooses to spend time with is a reflection of her values and morals. Matty has said hurtful things about multiple minority groups and shown himself to be a lousy human being. That Taylor has chosen to date him is disappointing.
Katrina
2023-05-13 19:20:19 +0000 UTCGirl I love her and her music, and you clearly didn't read my first response if you think this is about her dating life. You have no critical or thoughtful takes all you can say is "people are sensitive" and "calm down." Say something useful then maybe I'll respect you
Safa
2023-05-13 19:03:14 +0000 UTCOk when you come down to insults. That means you have nothing else to say. Not surprised. We just love her and her music. Who cares who she is dating.
Richard
2023-05-13 19:01:44 +0000 UTCYeah it’s so fun to try and think of what songs she could tie into different places. I’m seeing her in Chicago and have no clue what songs she’s gonna do.
Hannah Stiff
2023-05-13 19:01:18 +0000 UTC"People are sensitive nowadays" is such a classic reply...you clearly have 13 braincells
Safa
2023-05-13 18:58:45 +0000 UTCi think the criticism shared here is absolutely valid and important. we’re all confused as to why taylor has decided to date matty healy, but attacking community members and questioning people‘s personal values on the basis of one comment is a bit too much - if you were aiming for a nuanced conversation, this is definitely not it. hannah has every right to voice her opinion, especially because matty healy's comments affect her personally too. please be a bit more mindful, everyone‘s trying to make sense of this situation right now. be kind to one another, this is not stan twitter.
mieke
2023-05-13 18:57:01 +0000 UTCYou need to calm down. Ha ha. I love getting you guys going. So easy. Not putting her on a pedestal. Just people are just to sensitive nowadays.
Richard
2023-05-13 18:56:36 +0000 UTC"Get a life" be so for real. If you think this is about her DATING life, you need to open your mind. I don't care if she is dating him. It is about her willingly and purposefully aligning herself with someone who has said incredibly vile things about women and people of color. If you are an OG swiftie who "has a life" and is able to think in a NUANCED way and actually look up at the world around you and not hold Taylor up on a pedestal as if she is some sort of God, then you would see that her behavior is completely hypocritical and goes against the persona and values that SHE created for herself that SHE tells us she cares about. No offense, but calling us childish for being upset screams white privilege. You do not have a right to tell POC Swifties how they should feel about this... boy bye...and FYI I've been a Swiftie since debut <3
Safa
2023-05-13 18:52:13 +0000 UTCOh my God. People should get a life with this Matty thing. I bet a lot of new swifties are complaining about this and Gen Z too. We og ones don't care who she dates. We just love her and her music.
Richard
2023-05-13 18:36:04 +0000 UTCim right outside of philly and its killing me that im not able to go to a show😭 i'd need to take a train and there isnt any trains after 8pm so i wouldnt make it home😭
charlie
2023-05-13 18:31:21 +0000 UTCSo you don’t care that he’s racist?
tasneem
2023-05-13 18:23:22 +0000 UTCThat is EXACTLY WHAT IM SAYING!
tasneem
2023-05-13 18:19:38 +0000 UTCWonder if Question? Is about Healy… Didn’t she get kissed @ a 1975 concert? Hummm 🤔
Starsonscars
2023-05-13 17:49:42 +0000 UTCAs am I. I agree with you that it’s confusing and hurtful to see Taylor spending time with someone who does not display the values she’s expressed and we appreciate her for. I don’t personally enjoy seeing them together but I know from experiences in my own life that sometimes people you care about do things you find unacceptable but you also still care about them bc there’s history or life is complicated. That’s the nuance that I am applying. I love that you care so strongly and you have every right to speak on it but it didn’t feel nuanced to say that I was racist or not an ally. That was hurtful and not my intention. I will do better to communicate my ideas going forward.
Hannah Stiff
2023-05-13 17:02:03 +0000 UTCI’m not gonna call him dad.
Jordan Bush
2023-05-13 16:56:41 +0000 UTCLook forward to Taylor preforming in other states just to see y’all’s reaction to the surprise songs🫶🏻
Jordan Bush
2023-05-13 16:50:49 +0000 UTCNo one is personally attacking you or this video....we are trying to have a nuanced conversation...
Safa
2023-05-13 16:49:19 +0000 UTCHey this does not need to turn into a personal attack. He has made many racist remarks against Chinese people. I am Chinese. He has made many sexist remarks against women. I am a woman. And I am also an ally and support LGBTQ+ people so whole heartedly. I understand how upsetting thisrelationship is but it’s not cool to make sweeping accusations or assumptions about my values and that’s what I was trying to say in my original post. Despite feeling deeply connected to Taylor we don’t know her. For all we know she had a serious conversation before being public with Matty saying I do not tolerate how you’ve acted before and if we are going to spend more time together you need to make some serious changes. People have long histories with each other and not everybody cuts everyone off who disagrees. Sometimes you try and educate that person and help them be better. At the end of the day this is a fun group Emily and Bon put together to celebrate music please be patient if the nuance of this topic isn’t communicated fully in one comment on one video. 💜
Hannah Stiff
2023-05-13 16:39:22 +0000 UTCWhile Taylor is grown and can make her own decisions, that doesn't mean the decisions are responsible; that they align with her proclaimed values; or are free from valid criticism created within the fandom. I say this as an OG Swiftie who has been along for the ride and has seen other instances of where this grown woman been free to make her own decisions that didn't always seem to be with the best judgement. The discourse has absolutely nothing to do with what Taylor does in her personal life and more about what values, behaviors, and ideals that this close connection with Matty could possibly be seen as her endorsing. We know Taylor already faces massive scrutiny by many for not directly speaking out about social issues even though her work & creative/hiring practices say otherwise and this could cause even more upset. Outside of the openly racist remarks and behaviors, Matty has also on record being fatphobic by declining interviews b/c the reporter is 'too big'; he's posted islamophobic jokes on his IG stories; performed NotZee salutes that his fans dubbed as 'art'; follows/agrees with Andrew Tate; has laughed over podcasters mocking Asian & Pacific Islanders; and has been openly antisemitic. Fans who are having 'reactions' as you put it are justifiably concerned about the image she is creating that she's okay with/endorsing/willfully ignoring/not aware of the values/morals that Matty's actions shed light on. He's far from the embodiment of the values Taylor says she stands for and that creates a very valid conflict between what she says and what she does and opens a window for very valid criticism related to her authenticity; her judgement; and her genuine care for her very diverse fanbase. It makes her allyship look performative and that's immensely sad. She is grown and she can make her own decisions but that doesn't mean she's impervious to valid scrutiny.
Michael Grice
2023-05-13 16:35:11 +0000 UTCAs a ride or die Swiftie, I have to disagree. As Safa said, we aren't blaming her for Matty's actions. We're justifiably concerned about the image she is creating that she's okay with/endorsing/willfully ignoring/not aware of the values/morals that Matty's actions shed light on. And let's be frank - a lot of his behavior over the past years has been downright vile. He's far from the embodiment of the values Taylor says she stands for and that creates a very valid conflict between what she says and what she does and opens a window for very valid criticism related to her authenticity; her judgement; and her genuine care for her very diverse fanbase. It makes her allyship look performative and that's immensely sad.
Michael Grice
2023-05-13 16:26:29 +0000 UTComg i just realized none of her albums are orange that would be iconic
Safa
2023-05-13 16:23:07 +0000 UTCAgreed - Taylor is currently setting and smashing records left and right and I don't want to see something like this be the bump in the road that significantly limits the career of a phenomenal artist. We all know there's a huge chunk of society that criticizes her for not directly speaking on social issues regardless of the work she does to make her body of work and hiring/creative practices inclusive. I feel like this kind of additional association with someone who clearly has poor morals is going to make it very hard for her to win in public perception ugh
Michael Grice
2023-05-13 16:16:34 +0000 UTCI was in Philly last night! she still has ‘Eras’ nails but her Lover finger which is usually pink was ORANGE like….Karma Orange 🧡
maya
2023-05-13 16:13:07 +0000 UTCRight? It's much less about what Taylor does in her personal life and more about what values, behaviors, and ideals that this close connection with Matty could possibly be seen as her endorsing. We know Taylor already faces massive scrutiny by many for not directly speaking out about social issues even though her work & creative/hiring practices say otherwise and this could cause even more upset. Outside of the openly racist remarks and behaviors, he's also on record being fatphobic by declining interviews b/c the reporter is 'too big'; he's posted islamophobic jokes on his IG stories; performed NotZee salutes that his fans dubbed as 'art'; follows/agrees with Andrew Tate; and has laughed over podcasters mocking Asian & Pacific Islanders.
Michael Grice
2023-05-13 16:12:21 +0000 UTC^^THISSSS! Thank you!! So relieved to see other fans acknowledging Taylor for who she really is as a person rather than just blindly worshipping her and constantly justifying her actions. Taylor can be very narcissistic (even she admits that) and tends to only care about matters when they directly affect her. She has worked overtime over the years to deliver a very carefully curated image of herself to the public, but there are few instances where that image unravels at the seams - and this is one of them. LOVE her music and greatly admire her as an artist, but jumping into this relationship with someone as problematic as Matty is a true reflection of where she really stands on these important social issues. She simply doesn't care because it doesn't affect her (not right now at least).
Shondi
2023-05-13 16:06:30 +0000 UTCI'm gonna need her to stop playing all of the surprise songs I want to hear, another 2 bite the dust 😭😭😭 My show is next Saturday, i'm getting so angsty! 🥳
Mia Morgan
2023-05-13 16:03:50 +0000 UTCI think she’s not chatty and just in a rush to get back to Matt….and honestly don’t blame her 👀
Jessie
2023-05-13 15:53:56 +0000 UTCyes!!!! the white swifties brush it off and honestly won’t understand how us poc feel
sara inda
2023-05-13 15:50:33 +0000 UTCShe is responsible for the community and people she chooses to associate with. Taylor is not seen unless she wants to be. She is being public about this. No one is blaming her for HIS actions. We are calling her out for HER actions. If you are OK with spending time with someone who is racist and anti-semetic, then I am sorry to say YOU ARE condoning their actions and IT DOES say something about you, and you are NOT an ally.
Safa
2023-05-13 15:49:18 +0000 UTCPointing out his racist actions is not "hating" on him, it is literally just stating things that he has done. He is the antithesis of every value Taylor claims to uphold and Taylor was the one who came out and made promises about entering her woke activist era in 2020, so excuse me if we're confused. And honestly if you are a white Swiftie, you have no say in how we should feel about this. You can love and adore Taylor and her music and still be able to acknowledge when she aligns herself with problematic people (which this isn't the first time, she literally just did a movie with David O. Russell who has multiple sexual abuse allegations and who has ADMITTED to sexually assaulting his NIECE) so excuse me if I don't trust Taylor's judgment. She can be extremely hypocritical and it's incredibly disappointing. If Matty had said the demeaning things he said about Ice Spice for example (calling her dumb, chubby Chinese lady, Inuit spice girl, using racial slurs, mocking ethnic accents) about TAYLOR, she would be beyond livid and tweet all about feminism, yet she is OK with associating herself with him when he says these things about a woman of color. And yet she gets up and sings "The Man" every night with her full chest....ok....that adds up. Taylor Swift is the definition of a White performative feminist and it's OK to acknowledge that.
Safa
2023-05-13 15:45:56 +0000 UTCWhat's the point in having a 'persona' that makes you look like a racist, antisemitic, Islamophobic, misogynist asshole? Who is he trying to appeal to? What's the payoff? And then he apologizes when he gets called out, but then goes and says more offensive shit. His fans need to accept that it's not a bit or act, it's who he is. He's a bad person, his fans need to stop making excuses for him. He's no different than Kanye tbh.
Katrina
2023-05-13 15:45:13 +0000 UTCYes! To be totally honest it's annoying to me how so many fans are so quick to justify this and saying things like "he must not be so bad if she's with him" or "I trust her judgment" as if she's God! Yes, we know Taylor to be a generally good person but she is nowhere near perfect, and she needs to be held accountable for her actions just like everyone else. The fact that she is choosing to romantically associate with this man is very questionable.
Shondi
2023-05-13 15:43:36 +0000 UTCNah. I've seen comments over the years similar to your first paragraph but switch out Matty's name for Kanye. The "persona" shit isn't an excuse. If I want to hate them and judge them, I will.
James
2023-05-13 15:43:13 +0000 UTCAfter seeing a lot of stories and clips shared about Matty I am definitely not a fan but I really hate that Taylor is getting slammed. He is a grown man, she is not responsible for his actions. Spending time with someone doesn’t mean you endorse everything they do and say or have ever done.
Hannah Stiff
2023-05-13 15:42:31 +0000 UTCYES to all of this! I'm a huge fan of Taylor's music, of course. But she is a very flawed human being (as most of us are!) - she just happens to have both the money and calculating personality (yes, I said it lol which is something I actually admire about her) to have been able to give the public a mostly controlled narrative of her life and choices over the years (making us see only what she wants us to see). The way she handled the Calvin-Tom-Joe getaway car situation could have been partially excused by the emotional immaturity that came with her age at the time. But TODAY? As a 33 year old? This is just reckless and shows that she is still severely emotionally stunted (I'm the same age as her and that's my perspective). Again, truly love her but she clearly as some growing up to do.
Shondi
2023-05-13 15:37:58 +0000 UTCNo one is blaming Taylor for Matt's actions, we're just saying (especially Swifties of color) why is Taylor, a feminist girlboss wannabe activist associating herself with a literal racist...who has said demeaning things about women (including her) and especially women of color.
Safa
2023-05-13 15:23:03 +0000 UTCall of you need to chill with all the Matty hate comments, is he a perfect angel .. no absolutely not but he's not the devil.... he and taylor are very different/but similar at the same time... Matty is a performer, he has this "persona" that puts to the public, like a character. he's very bizarre has strong opinions "takes the piss" but we (and not even me as huge 75 fan) don't know how he is in real life you guys don't need to love/stan him, but the intense hate/judging needs to chill it might be just be a summer fling who knows ...you can a have an opinion sure, but let's chill with the hate...... like Taylor said "breathe in, breathe through, breathe deep, breathe out"
MF SS
2023-05-13 15:15:37 +0000 UTCI love Taylor so much but I just can’t support it if the thing with Matty is true given is track record and how gross he is and has been in recent months and even since last year, I just can’t I’m sorry
ashley
2023-05-13 15:11:09 +0000 UTCThis was a huge loss for me!!! Two of my stan songs. I was already shook at gold rush and then she hit us with come back be here?!! That audience was sooo lucky.
Guadalupe Trejo
2023-05-13 15:01:05 +0000 UTCI for one do NOT trust Taylor's judgment. Saying this as a full-blown Swiftie! Taylor is not perfect and has had tendencies to get messy with boys/men in the past, and her track record doesn't show that she is able to stay single for long. Our girl is boy crazy and we love her for it! However, this particular choice of man is....interesting, to say the least. I truly don't believe there wasn't any "overlap" between Joe and Matty. The whole Calvin-Tom-Joe situation was one huge series of overlaps so I wouldn't put it past her to have done the same again! She is emotionally stunted in many ways and this Matty situation continues to reflect that. Again, LOVE Taylor but I am def not blind to her flaws 🙈
Shondi
2023-05-13 14:59:34 +0000 UTCI'm of the feeling that I'd just rather not think about her and Matty too much. I'm hoping it'll burn out quick so I can stop doing mental gymnastics to figure out how Taylor is excusing his shitty behavior.
Kelsey Neminski
2023-05-13 14:32:41 +0000 UTCThe new romance is a complete disaster and one of the few times Taylor and her team have severely misread the room. The hard launch was such a bad call. “Taylor and Matty are madly in love” got quickly down graded to “she has a crush “ and then finally to “ it’s casual, she’s not sure”. All in direct correlation to the collective cries of “this can’t be real!” Should we talk about the gross declaration of love literally on the world stage, yowsers!! Taylor now finds herself being the MC in three narratives, none of them good. 1. Taylor is a morally questionable person or has the ability to overlook frankly disgusting behaviour. A hypocrite. On this issue can people please listen to the victims of his bigotry. If it’s not you, you don’t get to decide if it’s offensive or not. It’s one thing to support Taylor it’s another to disregard the lived experiences and trauma his remarks have caused others. 2. Taylor is still the same boy crazy girl. She can’t be single. She’s malicious and deliberately flaunting a new guy to hurt her ex. How immature is she. In this instance there’s a lot of talk about how quickly she jumped into this relationship. She’s 33 not 23. Grow up etc etc 3. Do you really want to know where I was January 12th…. There was definitely overlap… Taylor has cheated on her last three boyfriends… This is going to blow up. You know all the tabloids are going to be putting together timelines. Speculating on how she breaks up with one guy after nearly seven years and then in a matter of weeks declares her love for another. I’m not sure how this progresses but it has definitely damaged her. She’s a megastar and I’m sure it will eventually boil over, she’ll be fine, but there’s so much interest in her at the moment and she’s such click bait the media will definitely exploit the chaos. Personally, I want it over, like yesterday! 😂😬
Jo
2023-05-13 14:28:48 +0000 UTCThank you for this! I was curious about that as well
Tracy
2023-05-13 14:25:30 +0000 UTCIf I can survive one of my best friends dating an asshole as a rebound from a long relationship, I can survive this. I stuck out that out because I knew my friend would need me during and on the other side. That’s why you don’t just “cancel” friends/family.
M3L
2023-05-13 14:19:55 +0000 UTCI was thereeeeee I’m so happy🥹🥹
Ruby Arias
2023-05-13 14:18:22 +0000 UTCDamn I love Taylor as much as the rest of y'all but giving her a pass for this Matty thing and saying "I trust her judgement" is kind of a bad take. She has made a series of bad judgements in her life which she has been open about and it's kind of alarming that she hasn't learned from them. I really don't think any of you truly believe that getting out of a six year relationship and immediately getting involved with someone like Matty, whether it's a rebound or not, is a good judgement call. This is a man that has said some absolutely horrendous racist/sexist/bigoted remarks and I strongly suggest doing your research on him instead of brushing it off and saying "well Phoebe and Taylor like him so can he really be that bad?" Yes, he can. This man is a total narcissist who has said in the past that dating Taylor Swift would be "emasculating". So why the sudden change? Maybe because she's at the peak of her popularity and he's trying to use her to recover his image and is pursuing her at a time when she's most vulnerable to prey on her and get what he wants? Whatever the case may be, I think getting involved with him is terrible for her and the fact that there is a lack of concern from some of her fans is sad. Edit: This isn't directed at you two specifically. I still love you and your videos and love Taylor as well. It's just kind of disappointing at the moment.
James
2023-05-13 14:17:39 +0000 UTCI’m over people saying “it’s her love life, stay out of it” when people are discussing how horrible of a person Marty Healy is. This isn’t a “I wish she was dating so-and-so instead, are they living together, when will they get engaged” issue. This is a man who in the past 3 years has said multiple racist, anti-Semitic, and misogynistic things. His band members have had to cut him off from saying shit on stage, omg the list goes on and on.
Erin Wyckoff
2023-05-13 13:44:31 +0000 UTCHe is both racist and sexist? I don’t care about who she’s dating as long as he isn’t a terrible person
tasneem
2023-05-13 13:17:24 +0000 UTCHe’s literally made racist and sexist comments, which is something that Taylor has said she doesn’t stand for so it’s confusing that she’s aligning herself with this guy and it makes me question her own beliefs
tasneem
2023-05-13 13:16:38 +0000 UTCTaylor is currently in the soft beginning phase where slowly but surely we get to see more and more and I'm sorry to say this but i also have the need to do a certain thing more and more. And that's throwing myself off the balcony
gaysofspades
2023-05-13 13:15:38 +0000 UTCThat’s what’s frustrating because I love her music but I feel like she’s constantly in some issue with problematic people
tasneem
2023-05-13 13:15:12 +0000 UTCWtf that is SO DISTURBING 😭😭😭
Chats & Reacts
2023-05-13 13:10:54 +0000 UTCMany many valid points were raised here Natalie!!!
Chats & Reacts
2023-05-13 13:09:13 +0000 UTCIt is a dress!!! The brand is Deiji Studios 🥰
Chats & Reacts
2023-05-13 13:07:06 +0000 UTCI was thinking the same ahhaahhahahaaha
Alice
2023-05-13 13:06:31 +0000 UTCIsn’t it the fifth British guy now if we include frightful Adam?
Alice
2023-05-13 13:02:45 +0000 UTCPersonally, I think it's suspect for any grown man to call himself Matty. That's a child's name. I could only respect a Matthew. I know my take sounds very petty, but I do believe such things matter. My son is an Alfie, but he talks all the time about what form his name will take when's he's an adult. Like all of us here, I want only the best for Taylor. We want her to be with a MAN. Not a Matty. That's a description of a dog that's been left in the street abandoned in the rain.
LadyQBear
2023-05-13 12:57:32 +0000 UTCIsn't Matty the fifth Brit? Harry, Frightful Adam (Scottish), Tom, Joe, Matty
Liam Mcfarlane
2023-05-13 12:49:02 +0000 UTCBtw guys, the elevator thing, have we fathomed that maybe she was just referencing to WD and This Love TV? and not even the album (?) idk, just wondering🧐
Ricsi Kiss
2023-05-13 12:34:37 +0000 UTCYep, add me to the mourning party.
Candy
2023-05-13 12:24:41 +0000 UTCI literally said yesterday how much I wanted CBBH as my sweet song and then she played it. 😭😭 like what? How? Lol 😂 Also I could see her playing IDSB if the talk gets to be a little too much about her and Matty. Kind of a way to say “listen, I don’t care what you are saying. I’m having fun, I’m living my life.” 🤷🏻♀️
Emma K
2023-05-13 11:09:08 +0000 UTCOn Matty, keep in mind that Phoebe is close friends with him as well. That seems like a data point in his favor to go along with all the data points against him. Also, for any celebrity, let alone an ultra-celebrity like Taylor, it is really hard to trust new people. She knows Matty's parents, and she has known him for a long time. I suspect he feels exciting, but in a safe way. But I'm sure she can see the end as it begins. I just hope they can stay friends when it inevitably does.
MarkH
2023-05-13 11:03:20 +0000 UTCAnd the moment I knew as well!
MarkH
2023-05-13 10:52:11 +0000 UTCBonny where is your top from!
Natalie
2023-05-13 10:50:20 +0000 UTCThe man admitted to watching hardcore violent porn, that specifically degrades and violates black women. It’s for people that get off on racial abuse. Are people (and Taylor) able to just dismiss that?! Disgusting. I’m shocked and hurt that Taylor is apparently fine with that. The whole thing is vile.
Lauren H
2023-05-13 10:40:00 +0000 UTCThe whole Matty thing, if it is a thing, besides the problematic issues, is that from the public's perspective it happened so fast, and many think Taylor could do soooo much better. In the end, it's her life. What do we know? He's a rebound, so hopefully between Matty and Joe we'll get a great TS11.
John B
2023-05-13 10:21:13 +0000 UTCI guess I meant she must see some good in him. After having pretty unfortunate friends in the past. But I completely hear you and recognise what you are saying. I think everyone always has more room to learn about others experiences.
Zoe Knox
2023-05-13 10:19:42 +0000 UTCThis is a bit unrelated but Have you two seen her visuals for my tears ricochet? 🌊 they’re insane!
Cassidy Butler
2023-05-13 10:02:39 +0000 UTCI feel like this perspective kind of disregards what black/jewish/women fans have to say about his public derogatory and phobic comments about those groups. And the real life consequences those type of micro aggressions/hate create for those same people. At the end of the day, Taylor is a white woman. So her understanding of what is harmful to say/what is genuine when it comes to these matters (emphasis) may not be accurate to what materially IS harmful/ingenuine. We all have learning to do in overcoming biases we pick up from this system and how to be better allies. This learning requires questioning our own judgement and examining the ways that it can limited to that of our own worldview which may not be the same as others material life experiences. This necessities listening to the feedback of marginalized groups. A process that should happen for everyone, even Taylor ❤️🩹
lailah
2023-05-13 10:02:32 +0000 UTC“I’m still mourning Joe” 😭😭 same Bonny same 🩵
Chloé
2023-05-13 09:49:52 +0000 UTCemily, i need to know where your shirt is from?!?!
aiyla
2023-05-13 09:07:58 +0000 UTCI must admit that I am kind of surprised with the fact that she is dating Matty and she is doing it so openly in public as well. I could not care less if those problematic things that he said is his stage persona or not, but he still said them and not a long time ago. I understand how some fans, especially her black fans, are disappointed that she is associating with someone who has no problem making racist comments. He is also known for his misogynistic views, so it does not look good for Taylor and the feminist message she tries to send across for so many years now. We know her to be a smart businesswoman and she was always so thoughtful about her image - because of that this situation really surprises me, and not in a good way. I really do not care who she is dating and I still love her and her music, ultimately this is her life and her decisions, but she cannot be surprised if people start questioning her views. I guess she is fine with that and does not care.
Joanna Kowal
2023-05-13 08:52:50 +0000 UTCher doing COME BACK BE HERE felt so personal omg phoebe requested it and i died
aiyla
2023-05-13 08:50:23 +0000 UTCI am having a hard time wrapping my head around the Matty Healy stuff. He is very problematic in many things he has said AND done. It’s more than just a “bad boy” persona, his public moral compass is just not something to align yourself with - I mean he has said outright racist things and is continually misogynistic - the complete opposite of Taylor’s ethos. So it’s confusing. Yes, she’s an adult and can make her own choices and doesn’t need fan approval… as a fan we can love and support her, we don’t have to love and support all of her choices. As a serial monogamist who is never without a boyfriend and falls in “love” very quickly. I wonder if this controversy and chaos is maybe how she copes with and possibly masks her real heartbreak?? This reckless abandon probably feels like a welcome lightness compared to her constant measured actions and state of control. I mean right when tour started she released a song that said “I want to teach you how forever feels” !?!
Natalie T
2023-05-13 08:34:12 +0000 UTCLove your daily /weekly recap of Taylor's life hahaha
Sivan Moshe
2023-05-13 08:02:48 +0000 UTCI’m still not over her playing WCS lol the shock hasn’t worn off yet. I think because she doesn’t perform Dear John I assumed she also wouldn’t do WCS. Anyway, I’m glad to be sort of back to “predictable” scheduled surprise song programming lol it felt good to expect gold rush and then get it
Korinna Garcia
2023-05-13 08:02:10 +0000 UTCThe concept of people disliking an artist for who they're dating is so weird to me. Like, sometimes I don't like my friends' partners. That doesn't mean I stop being friends with them.... People treat celebrities like they're the monarchy, where who you date is often a political choice.... But they're just actual people
Sara _
2023-05-13 07:53:34 +0000 UTCQuestion…? is about Matty! It’s on the 1975 pre-show playlist. Just like how About You is on her pre-show playlist. And the “I remember…” is an answer to 1975’s About You (which is the one Matty mouthed as about you, you know who you are etc). More 1975 songs that are absolutely about Taylor: “When We Are Together”, “Me and You Together Song” and “Somebody Else” which was written in the Matty/Calvin grey area time 🤯🤯🤯 There’s a lot of Masterminding going on here and they’ve been writing songs to each other for a long time. Cardigan is about him. Tattoo kiss, black lipstick. Maybe The 1 too?! 😭😭😭
Antonia Hayes
2023-05-13 07:53:07 +0000 UTCbut i think the reason i and many other fans are disappointed she’s dating matty is because of how problematic he is
zoe
2023-05-13 07:46:09 +0000 UTC🤣🤣🤣
Ally ❤️
2023-05-13 07:45:04 +0000 UTChttps://youtu.be/h2mbml6TQ4A Something you might enjoy.
Peter MacLean
2023-05-13 07:32:29 +0000 UTCI honestly believe rep comes after speak now because of the wall in the The Man mv. So idk about the 1989 booth. And about rayn and Blake's kids, who do you think will be doing the gorgeous intro? James did it back then but she is older now of course. Betty is about the same age James was. So could be either of them. And a shame for baby no. 4 who is not included in Betty (wasn't born yet) and is too young to talk for gorgeous.
madelon
2023-05-13 07:16:47 +0000 UTCI would LITERALLY UNALIVE
Chats & Reacts
2023-05-13 07:14:46 +0000 UTCi understand that. i love the whole easter egg aspect of being a swiftie. i mean... taylor obviously is the one who stated it with the secret messages back in the day. whenever we get new taylor songs i always want to know who they're about. for me i just don't connect any of these songs to what's going on in her life now. like getaway car will forever be about tom hiddleston. if she were to play it now, it wouldn't mean that she's using matt as a "getaway car." i think that's also why i have no problem listening to any song from Rep or Lover even though her & joe aren't together anymore cuz they just live in 2017 & 2019. those feeling she had during those albums are still true.
Katie LaFave
2023-05-13 07:12:32 +0000 UTC1989 needs it's own Era, could not cop if it's released on a speed. It would seem a bit weird if she did that 😳
Adélaïde K
2023-05-13 07:11:50 +0000 UTCYeah it was mostly the hosts but matty has a history of this stuff. He has shit on Muslims, posted antisemtic shit. And I know it’s because he’s trolling most of the time but it’s still disappointing. And the amount of people in this comment section alone being so dismissive is so gross
Fahmeen
2023-05-13 07:09:02 +0000 UTCthank you for sharing the link with us!! we will watch and fathom xx
Chats & Reacts
2023-05-13 07:09:00 +0000 UTCactually the 1989 booth thing is not a suprise because she did other albums before in other shows its not just 1989
jennie
2023-05-13 07:07:17 +0000 UTCAppreciate the sanity around her dating! Some of us have been doing some major fathoming about Taylor & Matty (Tatty? Swealy?) and the events of the last few months. Guys she gave sooo many signs!! Also no way she would take on this firestorm of backlash for a fling. He was sat with her dad tonight. It’s so real!
Cara M
2023-05-13 07:05:13 +0000 UTCOH MY GOD I am stealing this answer for any future time I am asked this question, superior!!
Chats & Reacts
2023-05-13 07:04:43 +0000 UTCAVA GHBVKJHAERBVUERBVERA THATS ILLEGALLLLL!!!
Chats & Reacts
2023-05-13 07:04:12 +0000 UTCI think most of the offensive stuff came from the host - matty didn’t challenge though which was disappointing.
Zoe Knox
2023-05-13 07:03:52 +0000 UTCmatty has been in love with her for ages, i just feel like she is having fun and is definitely a rebound, he is not endgame, so people should just chill… unstanning taylor because of this? are u crazy? people who behave like she is dating them should just calm the fuck down.
Mia Gregorio
2023-05-13 07:03:16 +0000 UTCLMAO I forgot that he existed
Chats & Reacts
2023-05-13 07:02:44 +0000 UTCAlso my dinner with 3 people dead or alive are Taylor, Blake and Ryan because I would just LOVE to be a fly and listen to them all interact.
Taylah Louise
2023-05-13 07:02:29 +0000 UTCAbout You is on the preshow playlist 👀
Cara M
2023-05-13 07:01:21 +0000 UTCYes, you're right! I agree that none of these surprise songs automatically mean anything. I apologise if we've ever come off like that is what we think, because at the end of the day, we simply cannot know if there is any reason behind any of the songs she's choosing (unless she specifically tells us before playing). I think sometimes it can be difficult to separate her music and her choices from her personal life completely, and to not speculate (to an extent), when she is an autobiographical writer who invites us to read into things with secret messages and easter eggs from the beginning of her career. It's certainly a fine line between being respectful or invasive when it comes to speculation, and that line is subjective and it changes depending on who you ask. Of course, we always want to be respectful of Taylor, but we also wouldn't be Swifties if we didn't consider a deeper meaning to things sometimes!
Chats & Reacts
2023-05-13 07:00:58 +0000 UTCI am so glad you said you trust Taylor’s judgement, seen so many comments about how people like her less now. It’s like people forget that once upon a time T was hung out to dry by the media and everything she said was twisted - we all knew who she really was. We have to trust she knows who Matty really is and she wouldn’t be spending any kind of time with him if he wasn’t genuine
Zoe Knox
2023-05-13 07:00:15 +0000 UTCI am not at all familiar with Matt Healy other than knowing he heads a band called the 1975. I watched a few recent performances from the tour they just finished from the album they have been promoting. I didn't dislike the music but I did kind of find it be kind of generic. I'm really not trying to be rude. It's music I wouldn't turn off but nothing really caught my attention to hook me into it. I then watched an interview he did with Zane Lowe, because they are really insightful. They are a Manchester band so he isn't a London boy he is a N. England boy. Big difference. He has an interesting viewpoint in regards to music and songwriting. I could see that Taylor may thoroughly enjoy having that kind of stimulus. He does also come off a wee bit pretentious as well. My honest take now is this is single Taylor. Single people date and this is how Taylor dates. It does not make this guy the love of her life. If he is as bad as everyone thinks he is Taylor isn't going to date him for long. She also isn't going to judge him based on his "reputation" and how he's been portrayed in the media. She's an adult, she isn't a naive girl anymore. Quiet frankly if you think of it from the guy's perspective you would have to be a lunatic to purposefully set out to screw with Taylor at this point. The Tayvoodoo is real. LOL
Clash Fan
2023-05-13 06:59:50 +0000 UTCThanks for responding! Agree.
Aloha Record Sargent
2023-05-13 06:58:58 +0000 UTCPhoebe is sneaky haha
E. Zlatanova
2023-05-13 06:58:06 +0000 UTCYep that's why as a POC I can't stomach it. What's saddening is that most white swifties just don't care and are like " if she's happy then I'm happy". Just. No. This isn't a good look. Where's the intersectionality?
Gayanthi Gimhani
2023-05-13 06:57:55 +0000 UTCLol at no reference to Calvin being a musician 👀
Taylah Louise
2023-05-13 06:54:32 +0000 UTCYeah I feel I’m mostly seeing POC upset about this because he’s said very racially offensive things recently. I feel like taylor knows him outside of all of this and she’s a smart girl but what we see of him recently hasn’t been great.
Fahmeen
2023-05-13 06:50:40 +0000 UTCIt's probably just too sad 😔
Chats & Reacts
2023-05-13 06:50:14 +0000 UTCThe song is about his illness. So why singing about that on his birthday. I wouldn't do it either
E. Zlatanova
2023-05-13 06:49:46 +0000 UTCThanks Joe!! We saw what she said afterwards, makes perfect sense that she would play gold rush after having already mentioned Eagles earlier in the show!!
Chats & Reacts
2023-05-13 06:48:37 +0000 UTCBonny and Emily, what's your take on why she didn't sing Ronan tonight? Obviously, it's fine, and we don't know the real reason, but do you speculate that it's because it's too sad, or because Maya asked her not to, or something else?
Aloha Record Sargent
2023-05-13 06:47:39 +0000 UTCyes i agree that she obviously isn't going to come out & sing songs like london boy or sweet nothing. however, i don't think the songs she does choose to sing connect with joe or matt. like when she did cold as you and you're not sorry, that doesn't automatically mean joe did something wrong.
Katie LaFave
2023-05-13 06:47:27 +0000 UTCShe did say something about, "there's been a debate about a line in this song about The Eagles and if it's the band or the football team...I love the band, but come on guys, I'm from Philadelphia, it's the football team!" She said something about watching Eagles games with her Dad as a kid.
Joe Weaver
2023-05-13 06:47:05 +0000 UTCwatching you two react, just made my day.
Jen Manchulenko
2023-05-13 06:45:24 +0000 UTCI don't know. I just don't care about that Matt controversy. It is tiring listening to other people's opinions about her love life. I am an og and I just love Taylor and as long as she is happy, I am happy. All this cancelling stuff has been rediculous these past few years. I thought we had enough of it back in 2016. But I guess not. Just leave Taylor's love life alone everyone on social media.
Richard
2023-05-13 06:44:27 +0000 UTCShe can but also people are gonna say something after he’s been known to say extremely offensive things lol
Fahmeen
2023-05-13 06:43:38 +0000 UTCListen I like matty as an artist but I’m just disappointed she would date someone as problematic as him 😕
Fahmeen
2023-05-13 06:43:01 +0000 UTCtotally agree, clearly she chose gold rush because she was home (which is why we predicted it) and phoebe's request to sing come back be here. just cant help but laugh at how come back be here (with the references to NY/London) do kinda fit the two of them. as we have said in a few of these reactions, even if she's not choosing songs specifically to be about joe (or matty, or anyone, or anything), it still tracks that she's not gonna come out and sing a song that she is not feeling... like a loved up song during the joe breakup week
Chats & Reacts
2023-05-13 06:42:10 +0000 UTCmy friend surprised me with tickets to New York and I’m simply unwell 😭😭 prepare for the full maroon colored outfit
Ava Jeffs
2023-05-13 06:38:58 +0000 UTChttps://www.stereogum.com/2219545/controversial-matty-healy-episode-of-adam-friedland-podcast-removed-from-apple-and-spotify/news/ here's an article about it
Gayanthi Gimhani
2023-05-13 06:38:10 +0000 UTC"nothing to clown about here" hahahaha
Shyla Hoffpauir
2023-05-13 06:37:31 +0000 UTCThe adam friedland podcast.
Gayanthi Gimhani
2023-05-13 06:37:17 +0000 UTCI hadn't heard about this! What podcast was it?
Chats & Reacts
2023-05-13 06:35:22 +0000 UTCI think the negative reaction to him is somewhat justified just by looking at the most recent controversy literally two months ago from a podcast appearance. So bad was the racism and misogyny that episode was removed from spotify & itunes
Gayanthi Gimhani
2023-05-13 06:34:19 +0000 UTClook i love you guys but these songs choices don't have to do with matt healy. idk why people are making her song choices either about Joe or matt. she chose gold rush because of the eagles line, her being from philly, & the whole debate about whether or not she's talking about the team or the band. then she chose come back be here because of phoebe. i just wish people could leave her personal life out of the eras tour.
Katie LaFave
2023-05-13 06:28:03 +0000 UTCWhen my big six year long/first love relationship ended, I would've sworn to you that I was just gonna mourn for like a year..........and then I was dating less than a month after it ended. It did indeed feel very chaotic at the time for a lot of reasons, but tbh it really helped me process and move past the breakup (in my specific situation). So if that's what Taylor's going through I totally get it.
Brittany Diamond
2023-05-13 06:25:35 +0000 UTCAnd let's not forget that Matty most likely already wrote and released songs about her. About You for example...
Jess.
2023-05-13 06:23:59 +0000 UTCWe are all so unhinged haha. Guessing 20 songs for 6 choices 🤣😍
Alex Day
2023-05-13 06:21:53 +0000 UTCThank you for acknowledging that Taylor is a grown girl who can make her own decisions and we are just here along for the ride. I appreciate it a lot after the...reactions some people have had this whole week about the situation
Jess.
2023-05-13 06:20:51 +0000 UTCLol I've been up too long listening to Being Funny In A Foreign Language album... I'm never up for these! So excited!!!!
Rissy (Taylor's Version)
2023-05-13 06:20:30 +0000 UTCcome back be here, everything has changed, sad beautiful tragic, and I almost do are some of the most underrated songs and I never hear them discussed. red really did it all
Ava Jeffs
2023-05-13 06:20:03 +0000 UTCAlso just got back from the show tonight and I’m deceased 😭💜
Amanda Christon
2023-05-13 06:19:29 +0000 UTC❤️
Celina Hayslett
2023-05-13 06:19:03 +0000 UTCHaven’t watched yet but I was there and it was incredible…okie now time to watch it from a different perspective
CoreyIsSus
2023-05-13 06:18:08 +0000 UTC😍 Uploaded just as I opened the app! What a treat ♥️
Emma Kilpinen
2023-05-13 06:17:25 +0000 UTC
