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BREAKDOWN - Red Vault Tracks (extended version)

BREAKDOWN - Red Vault Tracks (extended version)

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Have you guys ever heard about how “Brooklyn broke” is a phrase that Is actually used? Not sure if anyone has mentioned it already in the comments 🩷

Foxy_Tatty

this was so long ago but two other intros that sound very similar are DBATC (live acoustic) and Betty!

Autumn Atencio

Bonny's yellow dress gives, Taylor in Rome - in her getaway car era with Tom

sofie sandrini

It’s been months and I’m still wondering hahahha

Kjersti

Came here to try to figure this out too!! What am I missing?

Elis Llinares

Hi! Late to the party here, but I'm trying to piece together how IKYWT could be about Harry. Didn't she start dating Harry in late 2012? Around the time Red was released?

Elis Llinares

re the message in a bottle discourse, it is important to note that around the time taylor was doing promo for red or like right before it came out maybe, she mentioned (I think a couple of times) that she loves songwriting because it's like a message in a bottle ! you can write a message to someone and send it out in the world and her saying this always stuck with me so when i saw the vault tracklist it blew my mind that there was a song CALLED message in a bottle. like she probably said that in those interviews bc she had just written that song! illegal information

Cali

A bit late but, your Harry Styles timeline? Have I missed something here???

Kjersti

Taylor posted fondly about Olivia for years (from her Cruel Summer cover to her TikTok with Conan Gray) and wrote her a 10 page handwritten letter. At some point in 2021, that stopped and Taylor’s been radio silent ever since. Olivia also stopped mentioning Taylor, perhaps because she didn’t like the comparisons and didn’t want to be considered a copycat, but she literally interpolated New Year’s Day on Sour so I’m not sure distancing herself from Taylor was Olivia’s biggest priority and congratulating someone after the fact is harmless. More likely, what Emily / Bonny hinted at in this video is correct, which is some sort of split. Perhaps jealousy, perhaps the Kim K promo package, perhaps the plagiarism accusations, perhaps something else, but the bottom line in my opinion is that Taylor should be the bigger person as Olivia’s just a teenager and will of course make mistakes, plus she was considering a Taylor-related tattoo last year so of course she would never intentionally try to hurt Taylor’s feelings. Again, I like Taylor 100x more than Olivia and you’re right we’re all speculating here so could be nothing, I just hope maturity prevails and the bridge of Nothing New isn’t materializing.

John

To me, I have taken the ''i break down every time you call'' and ''you call but I won't hear it'' to be a correlation to ''I almost do'', in the sense that she's too hurt to accept his phone calls and seeing his name light up her phone when ''it takes everything in me not to call you.... and I hope you know every time I don't, I almost do'' is why she won't hear him and his voice and also why she's breaking down every time he tries to call her.....

Swiftie_mixer

Thank you 💕 Glad to know I’m not the only one

Lauren Levitt

I 100% agree with you on this. Babe is a Harry song in my opinion, always will be :) The cheating theme has been used in other Harry songs, not so much with Jake.

CamilleMG

I feel like it might be a Harry song too !! although i do agree the songs about him have more lightness i also feel like she already alluded to him being flirty with other girls. In IKYWT as you mentionned but also in Style ("I heard that you've been out and about with some other girl, some other girl"). Maybe he hurt her, she took some distance from him and then this love came back to her, you know ;)

CamilleMG

How do we actually know anything about what is happening here? Speaking personally, for all I know Olivia and Taylor are texting all the time--or they could be completely out of contact. How would we know either way? And if they are out of contact, I would not characterize that as Taylor cutting off Olivia completely. They don't really know each other all that well so far as we know. That is, as far as I know there isn't any data here to support the idea of bad blood between them. Maybe you know more than I do though.

MarkH

To your question about Olivia Rodrigo, I think the breaking point was when Kim Kardashian posted an insta story showing a hand-written note from Olivia saying that she loved Kim, which likely felt like betrayal to Taylor. That said, while I like Taylor and her music 100x more than Olivia, I actually think Taylor should take some of the responsibility / blame here. Olivia’s a teenager and Taylor’s a 32 year old woman. You shouldn’t hold a teenager who’s completely new to the industry and bound to make mistakes to the same standards as a fully grown adult who’s a veteran in the music industry (she IS the music industry imo). Taylor should be the bigger person, remember her Bad Blood days are in the past, and lend a helping hand to one of her biggest fans rather than taking it so personally and cutting Olivia off completely.

John

Just the BEST!

Ally ❤️

No omg I don’t even wanna think about it that sounds absolutely terrifying

JA

Imagine a world where All Too Well was an unheard Vault track until Nov 2021...

Joe Weaver

Taylor said at some point during the Red TV promo (this was when you could ask “Alexa start Taylor’s Version to your echo) that for the original release of Red, she had to remove Better Man because she had to choose either that or ATW for her record (and I’m assuming as a track 5) and she ended up going with ATW as we know and love and had to scrap Better Man. Thought people in this comment section would be interested in this fun fact hahah. You can find a recording of this on the tiktok of @/colorado.swiftie13 if anyone is interested 😌 since I don’t think this command still works on alexa

JA

I just thought of something. First I haven’t been able to move on from minute 31 as I keep thinking about the Calvin Album. But! What I think is that she will include in the 1989 vault songs the good part of the Calvin relationship and in Rep the last part of it when everything went down. And Thissss willl beee sooo ilegal, as we could have the bleachella album divided in two!! I’m dead now!

Daniela

Ok I wanted to leave it at that but after hearing what you girls had to say I have to add on. It's interesting because while I see your point about her not needing to go home and cry anymore because she was never driven out the way she expected (because of her fans <3) I think there's something to be said for the way that she still fears this, and how it must hurt to look back on her journey? In Miss Americana she spoke about working as hard as possible while her success was tolerated, since female artists are discarded around the age of 35. She references women continuously reinventing and finding new facets of themselves in her artist of the decade speech. And even more recently in the longpond sessions she references her need to keep proving herself, regarding mirrorball. ALL THIS TO SAY I can imagine her finding it painful to even be thanked by someone like Olivia. To see a naive ingenue who didn't have to suffer because Taylor took the brunt of the blows to clear the path. And I can imagine Taylor, at her most pessimistic, crying herself to sleep like… why did she have to figure out the map, and still continue to work so hard to be tolerated (until discarded)? It normalises that it’s OK to think that a lot of *grown women* might cry themselves to sleep, even if it’s not cute or youthful. Even if time moves forwards in positive ways, it’s ok to recognise it’s all exhausting. Wow. Embarrassing melancholic 3am ramble here… sorry. If you made it through thanks for coming to my ted talk. AGH

elizabethjulia

At 22 and having just graduated from uni a few months ago, the lyrics of "nothing new " actually feel far too personal. It's one of those songs that I truly find emotionally difficult to listen to. Listening for the first time was one of those moments where I couldn't actually understand how Taylor conceptualised those lyrics and put those feelings into song.

elizabethjulia

There has always been speculation that Taylor and Harry were a PR relationship and after hearing the very first night it almost sounds like it was and then they fell in love and actually were together. The lyrics "And so it was, we never saw it comin' Not tryin' to fall in love, but we did like children runnin" would totally explain that. Just a weird thought that I instantly thought of when you two were talking about that song.

Jordan Roskopp

Another idea! It's a variation of doing rankings but you do it as a draft. You can have as many people as you want & pick 10 songs each (or maybe 15 if it's only 2 of you). And it's fun because you inevitably steal each other's favorites. I did this with a friend for EVERY ALBUM. Was pretty crazy to do them all but a lot of fun.

Joe Weaver

Ok so I searched for the tweet but it’s not necessarily the FIRST fall of snow but I still think this would fit the timeline: „Snowflakes are flurrying down outside and it’s my last day of being 20!“. Also like maybe everything was still fine at this point or she wanted to believe it was fine and that’s why she’s singing „and how it glistened as it fell“ as in she remembers how beautiful it was. I honestly have no idea but I feel like there’s so much in the line about the Snow That I haven’t quite fathomed yet

Jule

Don’t know if anyone has said this yet but I saw somewhere that Taylor tweeted about the first fall of snow that year and it was the night before her 21st birthday? Like the snow represents the moment she knew kind of like the relationship turned cold and there was not only a season change in terms of the weather but also a change of seasons in her life and their relationship.

Jule

Lately I’ve really been thinking Babe is about Taylor’s first break up with Harry. Am I the only one? I know it’s not the common opinion but I’ve been thinking that because I read this Bustle article that broke down their relationship timeline. And it talked about how he was pictured making out with another girl (aka out and about with some other girl) and that’s when when she broke things off initially. It’s really reminded me of the bridge lyrics. Idk maybe I’m on an island here 😅🤷‍♀️

Lauren Levitt

Are you guys reacting to the new HAIM Song that comes out tomorrow? *-*

Paloma

Doing a video of one of those "guess the song in 1 second" games would be great. I've done so many of those & I get most of them but there's those few songs that'll trip me up!

Joe Weaver

Aww, thanks for replying! I don't even know how I found your videos. I guess YT suggested them after I decided to dive headfirst into all of this last year around when Fearless TV came out. I must have been like, "oh they look like fun!" and clicked on one. Now I've watched them all, a few multiple times. 😄

Joe Weaver

btw i fucking love y’all

taylor

hello

andy kwok

“how long will this be cute? all this crying in my room? when you can’t blame it on my youth and roll your eyes with affection.” when y’all were talking about getting older and having to have your shit together and not being aloud to be emotional… it totally reminded me of “seven” and the LPSS where the three amigos were talking about how you used to throw tantrums and get emotional when you were unhappy as a kid and like where does that emotion go when you get older?

taylor

oh singing Taylor with friends is just the best isn't it!

Chats & Reacts

yessss it is a different voice amazing!

Chats & Reacts

aww I love that resembling lyric!

Chats & Reacts

I went watched and you are so right, Ive seen that account before and she always has such great content... I wonder...

Chats & Reacts

OoooHHHHH wow that makes so much sense thank you for sharing and educating us Lea, will try to apply this in the future! 🥰

Chats & Reacts

Nailed it thank youuuuuu

Chats & Reacts

YESSSSS THIS IS IT!!!!!

Chats & Reacts

aw amazing thanks for the feedback!

Chats & Reacts

oh that sounds amazing, maybe we will react to that for patreon! 🥰

Chats & Reacts

that would have been ideal but he isn't a better man at the end of the day 😂

Chats & Reacts

this is mind blowing I love it!

Chats & Reacts

ahh yess I love all these points and theories girl! Thank you!

Chats & Reacts

omg yess to both of these 😭

Chats & Reacts

I know its RUDE

Chats & Reacts

Yes totally, we did say maybe she is just using it for inspo to write another type of break up song :)

Chats & Reacts

Thats so true, that song is something else and goes straight to my top 20.

Chats & Reacts

OMG yesss that lyric parallel I had never thought of... amazing

Chats & Reacts

YES

Chats & Reacts

hahah that would feel so wrong though

Chats & Reacts

it must be closer to 4 or 5 hours LOL

Chats & Reacts

hmm yes interesting... but I feel like in style that's more we keep coming back to each other and then away again not cheating.

Chats & Reacts

sooooo much to say haha

Chats & Reacts

This is so interesting because I just can't see it as a harry song, I feel like its too angry or hurt? like usually harry songs have a more lightness to them, although IKYWT is more serious and darker, I am not sure but thanks for sharing ☺️

Chats & Reacts

hehe 🥰

Chats & Reacts

aw thank you! So happy you like them :)

Chats & Reacts

I like this perspective and can see what you mean, he thinks he is such a man and wiser and older but actually... you need to be better 😂

Chats & Reacts

ah thanks for the love honey! Speak now breakdown will definitely be happening... SUCH a superior album but we will wait for her next announcement, so we can get into the zone of what's next! Yeah and the floor does hurt but we like the vibe haha might have to plan a new filming set up 💛

Chats & Reacts

hahah I completely agree with the best moment of my life 😂

Chats & Reacts

I would actually dieeeeeeeee... She could do it 👀 she knows we want it, but I still am not fully convinced, I think it would stir up a lot of drama that she might want to leave behind her?

Chats & Reacts

AH thank you 😘

Chats & Reacts

yesss true, I am leaning more towards a friendship with ed :) so cuteee

Chats & Reacts

ah yes I can hear that too! I definitely think those songs are connected!

Chats & Reacts

I love that, I think a lot of people feel that way, including me when I watch other reaction videos :)

Chats & Reacts

omg yessssss this makes so much sense!! 🤯

Chats & Reacts

This just occurred to me, but does anyone else think that in Better Man the use of the word “man” is used to emphasize the age difference? Especially since at the time she wrote it certain people might still consider her a girl. Similar to how she specified “the girl in the dress” in Dear John. And maybe kind of a way of saying “you may be a ‘man’, but that doesn’t make you a good man” given that he seems to have lorded his age over her a lot.

Aracely Castaneda

do you think you guys could do a break down of speak now? you already have 1989 and I would love to get speak now. I love your videos they are so informative and entertaining. Maybe you guys can get off the floor. That's got to be hard sitting there that long. I'll watch anything you do. Thanks Emily and Bonnie. I love you both. I have watched other reaction channels. yours is my favorite. which is why I decided to be part of your patreon. I love this community!

Dswiftie

this breakdown was pure serotonin! as someone who has a brother who struggles with depression, forever winter is truly such a special song. her version of better man is so superior; the extra line she added takes the song to an entirely new level and helps it build so much into the course. 10 minute version of all too well is just beyond words and listening to it while the snow fell for the first time this winter was the single best moment of my life ☺️

Ava Jeffs

What does everyone think about the theories we could get the "bleachella/karma" album from the vault?

Amanda Laura

I can't BELIEVE how good this breakdown is. All the parallels between Babe and Better Man, pure gold!

Maria Carmen

so happy with this one! one note though: i dont think run is really about harry because she says pale blue skies reflected in your eyes meaning blue eyes and harry very much has really green eyes

Leigh

I think the “car noise” in message in a bottle is a “plane noise” which connects to come back be here. I have always though these too songs are connected.

Olivia Haddock

I'm happy you discussed the KK rumors.. You both and me same. I'm against it. Like, KK is happily married and now has a son. But before married also, both of them in their own relationships. KK dated JK for a long time. And also, making Tree the villain.. Just a NO.

ParkJeon Ai

Oooo My Gooooood you replied!!!! Thank you!! I LOVE you guyssss!

ParkJeon Ai

It is a delight to watch your videos. Yes, I can learn things about Taylor & I appreciate that. But it's just fun to virtually "hang out" with you two watching the videos. Cause of course I sing along & talk to you like you can hear me. I think this is normal. Maybe.

Joe Weaver

Omg having a full moment at babe and girl at home. Because this part: "And yeah, I might go with it If I hadn't once been just like her" comes from her real life experiences BECAUSE SHE HAS BEEN CHEATED ON...she knows how painful it is as we can hear in better man and babe and it is sooo crazy that those two songs weren´t on the original but girl at home was and know it makes so much sense and i just can´t....her brain!!!!!

Paloma

No in better man its just an offensive melody change, because she is singing the lyrics of the second verse with a different melody than in the first one. If it was a key change the music would change as well. Its a bit hard to explain but every song is in a certain key (for example Love Story starts in D Major and then in the last chorus it changes into E Major (thats why its called a „key change“) whereas with Willow the whole song is in G Major. In the last chorus she just changes the melody and goes deeper (same with untouchable). I hope that was a somewhat understandable explanation :)

Lea Helm

hahahahah I completely understand! But thats what we think it is at least.

Chats & Reacts

Hello! oo okay thank you for educating but I am still a little confused, so in better man its not a key change in the second verse? it's the same melody as the first verse but she is going higher? And what about the last chorus of willow? thank youuuuu 🥰

Chats & Reacts

Loved this breakdown! I am also still processing All Too Well 10 min version. The other week I sang All Too Well 10 min version with a friend at karaoke and it was the best moment of my life. :D :D Highly recommend!!!!

Anna Miotello

Yes, I actually wanted to say something too. I am a singer and those specifics are actually important info.

E. Zlatanova

forever winter and the very first night are my favourite Red vault tracks. Love hearing all your thoughts and seeing the connections between all the songs!

Emily

Red" is not my favourite album, but the Vault songs just changed the game. Love them so much! And by the way that part that you were talking about at the end of 'Better man' is not Taylor but her backing vocalist - Liz Huett

E. Zlatanova

I love you girls so much! The lyrics in Forever Winter "I'll be your summer sun forever" is like "I'm a fire and I'll keep your brittle heart warm" which I looooooove. Also, The Very First Night has parallels to Perfect by One Direction. Swiftie and Directioner for lifee!

Laura Kirby

This is sort of random, but if you don't know about the "Sara" account on YouTube, you should look at it. This is some kind of insider Taylor Swift account; she has claimed to be "just a fan" but the videos she posts are clearly made by Taylor's people. Sometimes you can hear the sound guys talking underneath. She just posted "I Know Places" from the 1989 tour, where you can hear the sound people counting "1,2,3, 4". And she has been posting a lot of 1989 stuff the past few weeks....I hope it is a secret sign from Taylor, but I have no idea.

MarkH

Message in a Bottle is one of my fave vault tracks. Thank you for explaining the car sound, coz I thought it was Chewbacca making an appearance in TS song.. hahaha. I don't know why it sounded like Chewbacca for me.

ParkJeon Ai

I honestly think that having the themes of her past albums in her mind really influenced the stories she’s writing about on evermore.

Regina Phalange

Also in Run if you guys are saying it’s more about Ed and Taylor’s friendship, the line “there’s a heart on your sleeve” could be Ed’s heart tattoo on his arm 😱

k80scorner

Omg I love you guys so much but you are misusing the word key change in almost every single video and as a bit of a music nerd I feel the need to explain it to you. So in Mr. Perfectly Fine, Love Story or Betty there is an actual key change in the last chorus (the whole sing moves up a whole step) which doesn’t mean that the melody changes is just means that the whole song gets higher or lower which is used to elevate the last chorus and make it even more epic. What you guys usually call a „key change“ is really just a melody change (which is absolutely superior of course but its a completely different thing) I‘m sorry I know no one likes a „know it all“. I love you guys!!!

Lea Helm

Sorry but the fact that Better Man is the consequence of Tolerate It? I am not okay

Andrea

How about Girl at home with the cheating concept.

Richard

How about no body no crime as an intro. Just imagine blaring sirens before she comes out and have a play scene with a story.

Richard

maybe there’s a connection between babe and the lyrics in girl at home where she goes .. i might go with it, if i hadn’t once been just like her“

Hanna Kulla

I'm only half way through atm but just wanted to say I LOVE all the tangents! I could listen to you guys talk about Taylor all day 💜

Emily

this is totally off topic but hearing you talk so much about how OFFENSIVE Aaron is made me think you guys would LOVE Gracie Abrams' EP "This is What it Feels Like" and I would love to see a reaction! she went to long pond and Aaron cowrote and produced some songs on the album! She's an incredible songwriter, super specific and honest like Taylor!

Madi Rose

And more on Jake's reaction: he would have been much better off saying "Taylor is a great songwriter. I don't know whether these songs are about me or not, but either way, I am honored to be associated with such a great artist, even if I'm cast as the villain".

MarkH

Again on All Too Well, "Brooklyn broke" is an expression describing how wealthy snobs like Jake put on an attitude and fashion of relative poverty, like they grew up in the pre-gentrified old Brooklyn when they are actually the invading rich who are destroying the old neighborhoods.

MarkH

on the Jake discussion in All Too Well, keep in mind that Jake is, at best, a footnote in history. Taylor Swift will get an entire chapter. He will be remembered longer for being the foil in All Too Well than for any of his acting.

MarkH

Loved the random tangents you guys would go off on! Also, 1. I think in I Bet You Think About Me when she says that he left her, maybe it was written during that three month period that they were broken up, or she wrote it after they were done for good, but said that knowing that he was in fact thinking about her after he left her, because he ended up asking for her back. 2. I was mind blow over the fact that she’s saying she’s never going to call him again, not call him babe. Though it may be a double meaning (we all know she loves a double meaning in a song.) I think saying you call but I won’t hear it is kind of saying maybe that’s what he is maybe going to think. That she just didn’t hear her phone ring, but maybe that she actually breaks down seeing he’s trying to call. Especially since in I Almost Do she says “I bet, you think I either moved on or hate you, cause each time you reach out there is no reply.” 3. I think Message In a Bottle and Come Back Be Here we’re probably written around the same time. And lastly, you guys are awesome and I love all your content so much!!

Amy Vega

u guuys, spoiling us !!!

Dina

At the beginning of Better Man, the lyrics “I know I’m probably better off on my own than loving a man who didn’t know what he had when he had it” reminds me so much of All Too Well’s lyrics “back before you lost the one real thing you’ve ever known” Ugh her genius brain 😩😍

k80scorner

the matching dresses

Hanna Kulla

emily’s hair excuse me

Hanna Kulla

On Babe, you know it is possible that Taylor is just using the metaphor of cheating, just because everyone knows it so well, and the promises could have been actually different--like it could have been the promise to show up at her 21st birthday party. On the other hand, it is certainly easy to believe Jake or Harry could have cheated, so I don't know.

MarkH

I've said this before, but Nothing New is just a complete shock the first time you hear it, even 10 years later. It is like nothing else she has ever done, and it basically slaps you in the face with how great Taylor is. It is (sort of) possible to miss the greatness when you hear her hits on the radio--I admit I did for years. I liked the songs but I did not see the next-level genius. With Nothing New, you can't miss it.

MarkH

Taylor *Knows* when it's time to go. 👏👏👏 Thank you so much for sharing this!

CK

Regarding that "your Brooklyn broke my skin and bones" line, I figured that it was another callback to a previous song (like the "twin flames" reference)--in Treacherous, we have "all we are is skin and bones." And then right after that, "Did the love affair maim you too?" from Sad Beautiful Tragic.

Viv

To add to that ATW 10 min lyric “I was never good at telling jokes” in Begin Again “I think it's strange that you think I'm funny 'cause he never did”

Korinna Garcia

So next video they switch places so Bonny's arm can heal.

Cody

Hmmmmm…. In Babe, if we think about a cellphone as opposed to a home phone, I think the call references make sense. I just had to end it with someone I love and can’t be with due to alcoholism. I turn my ringer off and don’t hear his calls, but sometimes I break down every time I see that he called. Anyway….you two just make my day…every time!!!❤️

Rhonda Bush

i think they said they don’t have the footage anymore 🥲

preston

Would it be possible for you to upload the original ATW10 short movie reaction with Kara Ducky and Brae on here?

solarinstitute

Almost 3 hours for the breakdown of original RED, and nowwww almost 3 hours for RED TS breakdown of only vault songs? OFFENSIVE, ILLEGAL, SUPERIORRRRR!! And this is still an edited version.. How long is the original footage? LOVE!!!

ParkJeon Ai

also in style she talks about harry being with another girl too and admitting to it and in babe she says “since you admitted it”

madison martin

I love the fact that it's 2hrs 45 mins!!! <3

Rj De La Cruz

I’ve always thought Babe was about Harry Styles like pre-i knew you were trouble or around that time because the rumor is that they ended things the first time because he was seen kissing another girl and in i knew you were trouble she says “you never loved me or her or anyone or anything” and then in Babe says “i keep picturing her lips on your neck” I can’t see it as a Jake song

madison martin

Yesss! I’ve been waiting for this! I’m so happy it’s the extended version! Thank you Bonnie and Em!

Courtney Ables

IM SO EXCITED!!

Sam Obrien

Omg I know what I’m doing tomorrow while writing my music history research paper👀

Jonah Hauf

yaass

rowan

YAY

Yuli

yes please haven't started yet but I'm sure i'll wish the video was longer.

Cody

SO EXCITED xx

Monica McCall

the only movies I need are hearing you guys breakdown songs for 3 hours ☺️ seriously these videos make me so happy; thank you superior humans 💛

Ava Jeffs

you just made my whole day better 🤍

Jennifer

THREE HOURS FOR 10 SONGS I AM ILL

Ethan Nguyen

Woohoo!

Clash Fan

SO EXCITED

Mikaela


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