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FRIENDS 02X11 WATCH PARTY

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I am a very open minded person. I am always of the opinion that if it makes you happy and noone is being hurt then all good. I have had to educate my friend a bit though, it has taken a while but now he is educating his friend too and I feel as long as we treat every situation with love ( I know it sounds cheesy but it really works for me) thats all you can do. 🥰❤️

Lucy

This is a very good point. It is this way in a lot countries still, unfortunately. We have a long way to go!

Savvy H

I have my reactions and opinions to things that I notice or experience. I don’t feel the need to analyze them or step back as you say. But I also don’t voice or force my opinions on others. I just try to mind my own business.

Amy Winslow

So at this time, theirs wasn’t a legally acknowledged marriage, right? It wasn’t legalized in NY until years later.

Amy Winslow

I noticed that too at times. Much quieter than the show

Jennifer Lawrence

I’ve always thought some people forget that Carol cheated on Ross with Susan. I think it’s quite natural that Ross had some resentment towards Susan - the divorce is only about year ago in the show timeline. I actually don’t think Ross had a huge issue with Carol and Susan being lesbians. Doesn’t mean his jokes toward Susan or Susan and Carol as a couple were okay, they certainly weren’t. But relationships are messy. If your partner would re-marry in years time with the person he/she cheated with, I think anyone would have some emotional turmoil about attending the wedding. Loving the Friends reactions!

Aarne Helenius

People have been talking about how Friends is dated, which it is in some ways. But this episode broke barriers when it aired in 1996. It was the third gay marriage on TV and the FIRST lesbian wedding ever on TV. But you can still see how different it is compared to today. They didn't show the ceremony and Carol & Susan didn't even kiss. But again, we have to remember that even in the 90s things were so different. Gay marriage wasn't even legalised in New York until 2011. A fun fact is that NBC expected a flood of phone complaints for portraying a lesbian wedding but they 'only' received 11 calls. Another fun fact is that the woman officiating the wedding is Candace Gingrich, an LGBTQ+ rights activist and sister to conservative Congressman Newt Gingrich. I've definitely noticed a change in the way I view things, particularity surrounding LGBTQ+ issues. I grew up Christian and that being gay was wrong and that gay people should absolutely not get married, at least not in a church. But I was also raised to respect them and treat them well, the kind of "love the sinner, hate the sin" mentality. As I grew up and started to doubt certain things relating to religion (not Christianity or God Himself), I realised that that in itself is quite problematic. Like, "I love and respect you as a person but not who you love or how you identify"? I also don't think being gay is a sin because I know it's not a choice (and "committing" a sin is something you choose). It took me longer to get on board with bisexuality because I thought "why can't you people make up your minds?" (which is ridiculous, I know). It took me even longer to get on board with trans, non-binary and understanding the difference between sexual orientation and gender identity. I'm still learning what all of this means (pan, asexual, genderfluid etc.) but I WANT to learn and am learning every day. I don't know if that answers your question though 😂 I do see certain double standards though. Like, while I think it's sweet how Ross not only came to the wedding but gave Carol away AFTER convincing her to go through with it regardless of what her parents thought, he made a great point about how if she were marrying a man no one would expect him to come. The question is, why is that? Or how on Glee when Santana convinced Brittany she wasn't cheating when they were hooking up while she was with Artie "because of different plumbing"? Almost as if because it's two women it's not real and therefore doesn't count. Weird. Btw, Rachel’s mum is played by Marlo Thomas, best known for a late 60s/early 70s sitcom called That Girl. She is on the board of St. Jude Children's hospital which was founded by her father, actor Danny Thomas, and treats children (though its patients can be as "old" as 21) for cancer and other illnesses free of charge.

Heida

can you turn your mic up a little louder next time please? it was pretty hard to hear you.

Nicole M

I wish I could see it like you, living in America, where it is possible for a woman to marry a woman. Unfortunately, I live in Europe, in the Czech Republic, where 2 people of the same sex cannot marry. They can enter into a kind of "partnership", but they are not married, they cannot adopt a child together. There are almost 100 differences. The government is unable to enforce a law that would allow this, there are constant debates where quite ugly words are said about the lgbt community, and half-assed proposals are created. It's humiliating. It always hurts my heart when I watch American movies and series and see that gay weddings are happening and it's normal. I hope that one day I will see them here too.

Tereza

Jumped straight on here when I saw the notification! Loving these friends reactions so much!

Miss Hunter

I am so proud of friends for doing this storyline. They really were one of the first lesbian weddings on television. This was in 1995, they put it out there and made everyone a bit more comfortable with the idea. This show has my heart. ❤️❤️

Alicia


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