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Summon Sign, Episode 51 | Dream Sequels and Old Classics

This week, Micah and Colin join Brad and discuss The Game Awards, Lego Horizon Adventures, Ocarina of Time, Pokémon Brilliant Dimond and more!

Timestamps:
0:00:00 - Intro

0:05:35 - Game Awards Thoughts

0:34:35 - Lego Horizon Adventures

0:44:32 - The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time

1:29:43 - Sort It Out/Keep It Up

2:38:39 - Iron Meat

2:46:22 - Pokemon Brilliant Diamond

3:13:15 - Dragon Quest HD-2D

3:22:59 - Closing Questions

Summon Sign, Episode 51 | Dream Sequels and Old Classics
Summon Sign, Episode 51 | Dream Sequels and Old Classics Summon Sign, Episode 51 | Dream Sequels and Old Classics

Comments

Wow you sure cooked me bro! What a dipshit response. Showing your whole ass now.

Bailey Callis

Calm down, Bailey. It’s not my fault you’ve got the facial hair of a 13 year old

Adam Barnes

He also thinks that it's an objective fact that Naughty Dog has never missed, and that their games are just excellent no matter your opinion. He can't even compute the idea that anyone dislikes tlou2 for reasons other than that leaks or culture war.

Bailey Callis

You're the one going off like a little child dude, who are you to dictate how the community should behave? People can Have differing opinions without being framed as assholes.

Bailey Callis

Or glaze Naughty dog that hard 😂

Bailey Callis

I feel like Naughtydog is a deep, melancholic conection for Colin's past life with ign, Greg and Beyond.

Bailey Callis

Listening to Colin talk about Naughty Dog I was picturing the scene in Chernobyl when the old party man stands up and gives a speech to the board

Trill Spencer

When Colin heard Micah’s Pokemon was Cloyster — I knew a race joke was cooking

Ahlickaloo

I have a library of physical and even got astrobot physical (I even wish I didn't now) but man I just don't get it. You have to wait for/go out and get the disc and you need to download and install it anyway. I've never had issues playing my games offline. Then again, I just don't have to sell my games anymore to get by in affording the next one I guess, but I know that's not the sole reason

David P

I can not stand physical games.

Chris Van Buren

Nestled DEEPLY in the warm bosom of this episode, I found this little gem - "Far Cry 6 is BETTER THAN METAPHOR!" - Colin

Guybrush Threepwood

Achievements feel like the Viva Piñatas

NeO JD

Oh man, let’s all just fuckin’ get along! Xoxo

Adam Barnes

I didn’t know you could feel them. What’s the texture like?

Alec Davis

“Naughty Dog doesn’t miss” - Colin “Wasn’t their last game embarrassingly canceled?” - Micah 😑 - Colin Real talk though.. Naughty Dog is an amazing studio but they clearly are not bulletproof and no studio is above criticism, when fairly expressed.

Zachary Abell

22 min in and loving the episode but Christ Colin dude, chill and enjoy being a guest and let Brad host! I tune into Sacred for your wise guidance and hosting of the flag ship but Brads being sidelined here and I’ve barely heard Micah!

Shane Quinn

As you do the same thing? I don’t like smarmy, know it all, rude(, boss girl characters and I’m certainly not a minority in this as it’s off putting. If voicing valid criticism to questionable character and narrative choices is ruining the industry then it doesn’t deserve to survive. Of course it isn’t, people are much stronger as is the industry, you’re just being beta about it all because you love it. So love away, that’s fine, but for a first impression Integalactic left a lot of us wanting.

The Rose Experience

As you get older your time is more limited. Personally, as much as I’d like, I don’t have time to replay games and I’d like to get the most out of them when I’m playing. For that reason I’m right with Colin on collectible and optimizing relationship etc guides. I don’t use walk through, but I want to get everything. In full support of this with that context.

The Rose Experience

Trophies just work so much better. The score is irrelevant, bronze to platinum tiers is something everyone can associate with. You have to give props to the originators though, it’d always easier to iterate and improve than be the original

The Rose Experience

It doesn’t feel the same

NeO JD

I’d say BioWare from Baldur’s Gate to Mass Effect 2 (if not 3) is a similarly stellar run as Naughty Dog is on.

Noah Friscopp

I dropped DQ3 Remake after 4 hours. What a miserable experience. The amount of grinding just to defeat random mobs is absurd m

TheMuff1nMon

You can also glance at a ps account’s level or the platinum count

Alec Davis

Pokemon's competitve scene involves breeding pokemon to possess desirable hidden stats called EVs and IVs. I don't know much about it, but its surprisingly deep.

Cameron

Colin specifically called out how tired the conversation about DEI and Woke was in this episode which I found infuriatingly ironic.

Ryan

I’ve never gotten the trophy hype. Achievements always seemed better to me. Just seeing the number at a glance showed me how hardcore someone was. Especially when they used to give you exclusive gamer pics or points towards rewards. I didn’t know until now that Pokemon Blue sold more copies than Red. Everybody loves Charizard so I figured him on the cover sold it. My fave Pokémon art style is still Let’s Go. Bummed they didn’t continue that with Let’s Go GS

NeO JD

“Get John Cena on the case” 😂😂 Micah is so funny dude

Josh Lucas

Played huntdown with my friend, Colin pleaseeeee play it! Very good recommend brad

Marcus

I knew what he thought of it the second the main character showed up and yup.... To no one's surprise he think its DEI, Woke slop. Already championing his supporters not to buy it and to speak loudly on social media. These people are so tiresome.

KB

The pushback is way too big to just be from the fringe “woke” crowd. I think a lot of people just genuinely found the trailer unappealing.

Haru Discourse

I wonder what Colin’s good buddy and friend of the show Stutteringcraig had to say about Intergalactic?

Ryan

Micah taking Colin to task for using a guide in persona was the best podcasting LSM has ever produced 🤣🤣

Zac

I can’t tell if Micah just enjoys being a contrarian or not lolll

Ryan

the 69% only cover games that have no bugs that could hinder enjoyment. If we're talking mandatory requirement to play offline (which I'd call the "bad eggs") it's only 9% of games. 89% play either fine or with minor bugs. 2% have bugs so severe that a patch download is recommended and 9% are unplayable without a download. You can check the statistics at the doesitplay website. The common statements people throw around are stuff like "there isn't even a game on the disc anymore" or "games are unplayable without the day one patch" - that's simply a huge stretch. Especially for people who cover the industry for a living.

ToiletDrummer

If I’m reading this right, saying that nearly one in three games on a disc require a download to function is an absolutely atrocious statistic if you’re a physical games advocate. That is way, way more than “a few bad eggs.”

Dante B

Cause he’s a nice guy Mike, that’s why

Daddy T

I sincerely hope that Micah and Colin will be giving one another the business into their 90s.

Forrest Hunter

Bad writing is not “bold choices,” Colin. You sound like Dan and Dave defending GOT S8

WashedAF

Dude, why are you such a tool?

Mike Held

Stop glazing Adam

Daddy T

That’s what you’re doing! Lmao

Daddy T

Never let Colin see this. Half the joy of candles is BUYING EXCESSIVE AMOUNTS OF CANDLES. But I love your ingenuity and I respect the game. -Micah

Mama Micah

That’s how he enjoys his hobby. Do you ever just, ya know, not make other peoples business your problem?

Adam Barnes

This is how I feel From Soft has earned my trust and I'm down for what they do next. Colin obviously feels the same about Naughty Dog but you can't go overboard

Brandon Zepeda

As a married man of 7 years, I felt the back and forth about Zelda, Persona, and Metaphor guides in my soul.

Shadi Haddad

I like Majoras Mask, but it’s a lower tier Zelda IMO.

Del Griffith

Your take is way too extreme in my opinion. Plenty of normal people are just noticing the pattern of masculine women and arguably a over-representation of homosexuality in games. The constant fighting is tiring. I think most people just stay silent and don't buy things they don't want 🤷🏼‍♂️

Wesley

Im very excited for Intergalactic but very happy to hear Micah call Aloy ugly

Moistescarjoe

Yes, Alien 3. That wasn’t the origin of the character. The most popular are the first two movies by a large margin. Regardless, she also doesn’t act like the character in Intergalactic from what was shown in the trailer.

PairOfShuse

Ripley sports a shaved head in Alien 3.

EarthboundNuess

Colin is right that these loud “woke” crowd people are annoying but that being said… just because someone is loud doesn’t mean their opinions isn’t of the masses. I have my opinions but I’m just not loud about it. I agree with Micah the whole CD thing and jacket is lame. I’ll still give it a shot but a lot of these games aren’t selling well and it’s cause some people might be loud and obnoxious but a lot of gamers feel the same.. they just quiet.

Johnny Lamotte

Bro, just admit that you’re a part of what’s ruining this community. Have a blessed day, find something better to do than periodically check back here to see what’s been said.

Adam Barnes

The Far Cry 6 is better than Metaphor take almost made me crash. Never change Colin.

The Rose Experience

Just admit you can’t take criticism to things you like and in order to cope, conflate it to the worst examples so you can handwave it.

The Rose Experience

I have an infinite candle trick if Micah wants to try it. Get a wax melter and a few empty dishes for the melter. Light your favorite candle and then pour the wax into the empty dishes. Since I’ve done this, my favorite candles last forever and i don’t have to keep buying expensive candles. I have like 20 flavors in a bag and i swap them out all the time. Get the plastic dishes so you can pop them out and use different smells.

Michael Mashpotato

Cry harder, you fucking dweebs.

Adam Barnes

Colin's approving "mmmm" when Brad was hyping up trophies over achievements will live in my head forever.

Samurai Costanza

See, this right here is the bullshit and you’re buying into the minority critique. ND hasn’t released a game in a long time and after all this time they gave us a trailer with no gameplay and the epitome of what gaming is rejecting as a character right now; the girl boss. There’s a lot to criticize right now and it has nothing to do with if the character is fuckable to me. It’s weird that people don’t see why people would not think this trailer is godlike. It’s essentially nothing at all after a cancelled game, 2 remasters, one of which is a remaster of a re-release.

The Rose Experience

One of the 5 best of the year, every Vanillaware offering is a must play

The Rose Experience

I got back into Pokemon when the Switch released Lets Go Pikachu. The last game i played before that was Gold on the GBC. Brillaint Diamond is the only Pokemon game where i had to reload my save because the final boss Cynthia absolutely rinsed me 😭. I got her on the second try. Otherwise Pokemon is too easy. But i still love those games and little creatures. Also I am one of those idiots who buys a the double pack.

Michael Mashpotato

*cries in Zelda being my favorite IP and Majora's Mask being my favorite game of all time*

Cameron

Forgot to mention it’s a very doable one play-through platinum

Shortsoptional

I’d love to hear Colin play Unicorn Overlord….such a great game.

Shortsoptional

The shot of her looking like a smug asshole whilst sipping on an empty soda cup is the reason people don't like this character. Also, when you can see the boxes being checked in the trailer, people don't like that either. It has nothing to do with "wanting to fuck the character". People, like you, that keep asserting that as the reason for the backlash, are the weird ones. How about you apply some critical thinking, Adam, instead of just parroting what you've heard online.

Mike Held

Colin's obsession with trophies is insane. So is his obsession with guides. Do you ever just, ya know, play a game?

Mike Held

Same here lol. Majoras Mask is definitely the weakest 3d Zelda tbh…

Haru Discourse

Micah with the realest takes during the Zelda segment.

Steve

Showdown would definitely be used too. That should be a patreon goal for sure lol

Zack

Bro, watching him breed for the perfect team, getting into the IVs and EVs would be surreal lmao

Zack

It would be amazing. Imagine Colin getting addicted to Pokemon showdown and theory crafting the best team for a tournament

Nick Pacheco

reminder that 69% of physical PS5 games do NOT require a download and 93% play offline. The physical crowd is so "annoying" because people constantly generalize based on the few bad eggs on the market and declare the physical medium dead because of heavily skewed sales statistics (DLC, GaaS, online multiplayer etc). Weirdly enough many of these people cover the industry professionally and should know better.

ToiletDrummer

I disagree with Colin on a lot. I don’t care, I don’t listen because we agree on everything, and disagreements don’t bother me. Exception: His Majoras Mask take makes me cringe every time I hear it. I was so disappointed in that game. So much filler and only 4 dungeons. Weak. 🤣

Del Griffith

Onimusha was in the Nvidia leak years ago.

Cameron

Agreed he is defensive. But he feels about naughty dog the same way I feel about FromSoft. Until they truly flop, I don’t see any reason to think they wouldn’t deliver

Pianopower

You are actually gonna say it’s unjustified ? I love the game but to say it’s unjustified that’s crazy.

Pianopower

Cringe edgy username checks out

Pianopower

Colin don’t get us excited about you potentially streaming your reaction to these events in the future .

Kris Guzman

Love ya Micah, but Uncharted 3 is absolutely peak gaming. I don’t know if it’s a 10/10 like Uncharted 2 or 4 but still holds up very well. That being said, I also think you are goinh to have a great time with Skyward Sword and that game get’s lots of unjustified hate imo (the switch version without the movement controls is great).

Breno Bezerra Bluhm

Dude if Colin got into competitive pokemon... what a wild ass timeline that would be

Zack

I just find it kind of weird and don’t really like the character design.

Haru Discourse

Colin is way to defensive of Naughty Dog. Micha putting him in his place a little is great.

Casey Cieslikowski

Micahs right Uncharted 3 was NEVER! a 10. Desert section and flipped boat part was cool. Uncharted 4 is far superior.

Frank G.

Another brilliant comment from T.

Adam Barnes

Divorce incoming🤣

Cormac

There’s already been one story leak, but it was debunked. I read through it, and honestly? It was pretty fucking well done, lol. Whoever wrote it should actually make a game.

Jimmy G

Glazer

Daddy T

Why? Would it be different if she had long hair? Surely in her line of work hair would get in the way - seems practical to shave it.

Adam Barnes

Brad killing me with “correcting” Colin on the Pokémon type weaknesses. Stand down boy

Nat Patterson

I really hope that Naughty Dog really buttons up their leaks for Intergalactic. Like don't even give out review copies.

Flint Dibble and the Dibble singers

Iron meat rules

Robbie Agnew

Great episode!

Ryan F

The YouTube comments speak to people who are chronically online.

Joe Cross

Micah is actually so funny

Brenden

BRAD! LOST ODYSSEY!

Dreamed about Ronald McDonald with a bowl cut frowning in black and white, woke up cackling

Listening to Colin being 40 and aggressively defending his use of strategy guides creates one thought in my mind and that’s “I can’t fucking believe this is one way to become a millionaire”.

Jimmer

Totally agree it’s weird that some toxic fans only want to play as female characters that they are sexually attracted to. That said, I think the pushback against intergalactic has some validity. I don’t find it very appealing playing as a woman with a shaved head tbh.

Haru Discourse

Definitely. The other thing, going off what you just said, is that there have been female characters and protagonists in games dating back to the NES and no one cared (99 percent, there will always be some moron on any side). Things have just become ridiculous now. When you start changing male and female to Type A and Type B, then you know things have gone off the rails. Who is getting offended by the words male and female (which is just basic reality) and if they are, those people should be shunned, not lifted up.

PairOfShuse

I agree. I love the phrase that “if this old property was made now then it would be considered woke”. Almost like there is more context to why people are negative than just a woman with a buzz cut.

Cole Barker

I'm upset with Lego Horizons performance only because I really want the actual Lego kits to come out. I wonder if this will stop those. I need a Thunder Jaw to go with the Tallneck. I was expecting them to reveal more once the game dropped but they only showed one new set with mechs I don't really care for.

CriiWolf

Discussions take a nose dive when Naughty Dog comes up. It’s bizarre. People are so toxic and so entrenched on either side. It’s an astonishing roadblock in gaming conversations.

AllTooEasy_

Damn that’s dope.

Yo mamas so fat shes DEAD!!!!

I didn’t really feel anything. No gameplay no hype.

Yo mamas so fat shes DEAD!!!!

Neil Druckmann is a pretty good writer when someone like Bruce Straley is holding the reigns.

Barry Cahill

You can clearly see how proud Colin is of Brad. Love it.

Daniel Pereira

Brad being that guy awkwardly stuck in the room with a married couple arguing is peak

Bogey

The last Jedi- terrible The last of us 2- “bold.”

CUMSoftware

Hi love gay sex and naughty dog. They’re basically the same thing

CUMSoftware

More marital dispute content please.

Dante B

Dragon ball sparking zero with Bruce falconer tracks on Spotify are the way the game was meant to be played lol.

Zachary

Shout out to Micah!!! Bring that man of yours back to reality lol. You don’t play persona like that.

Zachary

Lmaooo what a millennial ass argument XD go for it Micah ! Haha

Pianopower

The discourse around ND’s new game boils down to one thing; a lot of weirdos only want to play as a female if they want to fuck them. It’s weird as fuck and needs to end.

Adam Barnes

I disagree with Colin on the whole Intergalactic thing as well. He’s acting like if you don’t like how it looks or think it looks great, then somehow you are wrong about how you feel about how a character looks, how a character acts, etc. He’s saying it portrays Alien which it really doesn’t. Ripley wasn’t this shaved head, smart alec, sucking on a straw with an annoying ass expression and attitude. Ripley was an officer on a ship, forced into a tough situation, and doesn’t act like a whiny tool. Same with Terminator, she wasn’t this character at all either. If you are trying to equate these characters with the one from Intergalactic, it shows a lack of depth of the series in question OR ignoring reality. I also am tired of when this is brought up, Colin is like these are the vocal minority bringing up these points. Why isn’t it the other way? Maybe the people complaining are tired of it and are starting to say so, and it’s the people pushing slop on us that are not in the right.

PairOfShuse

Since when was just throwing references in seen as being cool? Throwing references in can be done well but it could also just be a “hey look how cool we think we are or hey do you remember all this stuff, aren’t we cool for adding it in?” It can easily come off as a corporation just trying to pander.

PairOfShuse

You think the CCP’s gonna sentence the Black Myth Wong Devs to ten thousand years bad luck?

Yo mamas so fat shes DEAD!!!!

She's got a buzzcut, an Akira jacket, Pet Shop Boys on CD, a Porsche spaceship and fights robots with a lightsaber-styled weapon When did we stop thinking this was cool af? Am I behind? Lol

joefray_

I need more episodes with Colin and Micah. These domestic disputes really bring me back to my childhood 😂

Adam Barnes

Lol you actually think you are the majority here? That’s hilarious .

Pianopower

Noah Bucchi

I would love an entire show where Brad moderates debates between Micah and Colin

Cai

Oh, this gon be a good one Can confirm, was an all-timer.

Dreamed about Ronald McDonald with a bowl cut frowning in black and white, woke up cackling

Physical gaming convo is incorrect! Dustin, lay it on em!!

Morgan

Everyone got the drip in this thumbnail nice

pudge

Micah busting Colin’s balls will never not be funny.

Whiskeywhiskey

Thumbnail looks like Colin and Micah are proud parents watching their son win an award lmao

Deemac


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