Sacred Symbols+, Episode 422 | A Console That's Also A Portable, Sony Style
Added 2024-11-30 17:00:13 +0000 UTCWith rumors circulating anew of a portable PS5, it seemed appropriate to welcome Tom from Moore's Law Is Dead and the Broken Silicon podcast back to Sacred+. You see, Bloomberg has new reporting out of Japan that Sony's prototyping not a successor to PSP and Vita, but a handheld version of PS5 itself, a Nintendo-like move that seeks to unify the home and portable gaming segments. But to be fair, what's being suggested here is a bigger lift, because not even Switch's imminent successor is likely to get anywhere near the base PlayStation 5's level of power and capability. So how will Sony do it? We have no idea, of course, but that doesn't stop us from wildly speculating. And since Tom and his technical expertise are present, we also got into a few other notable topics along the way, including fresh thoughts on a potential PlayStation 6 (and PlayStation 7!), ruminations on PS5 Pro's strong sales figures (but sometimes uneven performance), and continued proclamations on how amazing Portal is (it really is).
Comments
As a European I’m actually glad I live here where we have worker’s rights, actual real holiday time,healthcare, robust social welfare etc. Also using the value of the UK pound (not in the EU anymore) as opposed to the Euro was a weird choice.
Kenneth Fox
2024-12-05 11:37:54 +0000 UTCI like Tom a lot but DF are right on this. The PS5 typically consumes 10x the power of a Steam Deck, both using RDNA2 and Zen2. Zen 5 and RDNA 3, AMD’s current state of the art (although RDNA 4 is around the corner), are both about 1.5x more power efficient, not 10x more. I don’t know where he’s coming from saying the technology is already there. The jump is just too big to happen anytime soon.
GDPRangers
2024-12-05 11:01:04 +0000 UTCLong time listener from London, just subscribed to the Patreon and this is the first thing I hear 😂 Let’s be honest, though, our American brothers are doing much better than us. I agree things aren’t bad here, maybe just getting better at a much slower pace. American culture is just uniquely good in the world for fostering people that want to strive, innovate and build. This then means the best and brightest want to move to America to build their dreams, and even Europeans who are rich and don’t want to move go and invest in American stocks over their own… and the cycle perpetuates. One thing I think Americans miss in these discussions about ‘Europoors’ is how the salary differential applies to the whole of the rest of the developed world. It’s not like Canada or Australia are much different; even former economic miracles like Japan and Korea have basically stagnated at western European levels of income. If you want to have a US equivalent salary outside of the US your only options are either to go into investment banking or move to a tax haven like Switzerland or Dubai. Well, the other thing is the £ was never as high as Colin made out. It was 2 to 1 at best, but only fleetingly and before the financial crisis. To answer Colin’s question, though, there’s nothing they can do more for us than sort their own issues out. Too many people in Europe argue we don’t need to learn from America economically when you see the shocking state of their inner cities, people going bankrupt from healthcare, and homelessness and meth addicts. From the outside it just doesn’t look like a healthy model to follow, so in response we vote for higher taxes and more regulation, and tell ourselves it makes us more healthy societies. It doesn’t mean that, it just means we carry on falling further behind.
GDPRangers
2024-12-05 10:47:52 +0000 UTCI’m convinced that if it’s not the USA, Colin assumes it’s a third world country, or not far from it 😂
Adam Barnes
2024-12-03 03:29:58 +0000 UTCWell said. No offence to Colin but I think he often just looks at stats and thinks he knows the reality of things in countries on the other side of the world. I live in Ireland and we absolutely have our issues here currently - but in an economic sense, salaries are constantly going up for everyone I know, and there are loads of opportunities for people in a variety of sectors, particularly finance, tech and pharma. WFH or Hybrid roles mean many people can live up to a couple hours outside of Dublin (where majority of opportunities are) and can justify the 1 or 2 day commute to the city, while being able to have a nice house in a much lower cost of living area. And there is still alot of industry such as Pharma which have big presence around the country, and pay very well Of course the upside is much greater in the US, but it seems like the people on the lower end of the scale have it real tough, and those kind of people are in a better position in this part of the world with the benefits they receive. The work/life balance is a huge difference also, I know it would be if I had my current job in the US instead of here. Also these arguments rarely take cost of living into account. Costs are rising here for sure, but in my times travelling in the US I'm amazed at the cost of alot of things
Deemac
2024-12-02 17:21:48 +0000 UTCTrust me, Colin, in England, people have more money than ever. Benefit payments are insane, too. The problem is that the poor are poor, probably take drugs, lots of benefits and some might carry knives in cities (I’ve ever seen any of that though)! I live in the north and people around me have a lot of money. Even our minimum wage is the highest in Europe, I believe. Up here we live in beautiful houses for less than £300k, earn £40k-70k (most people I know) and go on 3 holidays a year. Most people I know do a side hustle, earning more money, thanks to WFH culture. I’m just saying, if we believe the media too, it would appear that the States has gone to shit.
Matt
2024-12-01 08:49:52 +0000 UTCIt was an interesting listen, mostly because the new Digital Foundry pod that just dropped directly contradicts Moore's Law is Dead entirely. Over there they said the idea of a handheld ps5 with a low enough energy draw to be a handheld would not be possible. Even in several years time they mention it being impossible/impractical in terms of cost and power draw. Their idea is a further stripped down ps5, something where devs would go in and adjust the settings even lower than base ps5 on a per game basis. I wonder which idea will be correct in 3 or 4 years time. Either way, power is not a priority for me in a handheld, as long as it plays a lot of my library, even at compromised settings, I'm all in.
Morgan
2024-12-01 03:38:04 +0000 UTCThe biggest takeaway for me here is when he said that PS is already ahead of Xbox in terms of development of the next-gen unit. Goes against all the rumors we’ve been hearing of Xbox wanting to start off next-gen first.
NeO JD
2024-12-01 02:54:59 +0000 UTCLove me some SS+
Damien Groome
2024-11-30 17:30:30 +0000 UTCI thought we were getting the Shuhei interview today
Chris Adams
2024-11-30 17:21:13 +0000 UTCPalladium shout out \m/
Peter Jansen
2024-11-30 17:09:06 +0000 UTC
