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Sacred Symbols+, Episode 421 | Dragon Age: The Veilguard Review Discussion & Spoilercast

Friends, we gather once more for a discussion of the ages! Oh, pardon me, I mean DRAGON AGES. Joining me (Matty) for this highly anticipated discussion is none other than Gene Park and Hoeg Law. What happens when a lifelong BioWare stan clashes with two fine gentlemen who ended up on the positive side of this otherwise controversial game? A three hour marathon of debates on all things across the game's myriad of "choices," its gameplay structure, and what an ideal Veilguard even looks like in our eyes. More importantly, we get into the future of this once esteemed developer and assess what future they have, if any, as a team within the EA stable.

Sacred Symbols+, Episode 421 | Dragon Age: The Veilguard Review Discussion & Spoilercast
Sacred Symbols+, Episode 421 | Dragon Age: The Veilguard Review Discussion & Spoilercast Sacred Symbols+, Episode 421 | Dragon Age: The Veilguard Review Discussion & Spoilercast

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Dragon Age : failguard! I need to see the ending of the story, but I think it will be on youtube, too much wokeness here, I just dont understand why you try to make it seem its just like Inquisition ou BG3, just because there are gay characters as well, but they were done in good taste, I dont mind gay characters, but woke writing is shit, and both Inquisition and BG3 were done in good taste…

Marco Maluf

Gene's opinion on death of characters in the Mass Effect games was one of the worst takes ever.

Joseph Gedgaudas

The Mass Effect 2 blasphemy is too much to handle.

Nathan Densley

Matty pronoun correcting himself 🤣

Alec Davis

Zero interest in dragonage and this 3 hour spoilercast was awesome. I just love hearing gene matty and rick talk that talk, awesome ep

Marcus

Yeah it was a pretty disappointing thing to see Gene say and do

PairOfShuse

And the irony of him literally doing it himself.

Jason

The conversation itself was entertaining but I honestly was surprised at the blatantly tone deaf/kinda racist comment Gene made that only a white person would tell someone of mixed ethnicity to be more *insert race here*. That’s patently false and a pretty short sighted thing to say

PairOfShuse

Wait, Hoeg has the LSM account too??? 😂

Bailey Callis

I love Hoeg on spoilercasts! More please

TheMuff1nMon

Do I get a free sermon with that?

Alec Davis

I was discussing the references Lucanis and Trevino make to “coffee” as anachronistic-feeling and reducing the fantasy elements of the world. I’m sorry you didn’t find it useful. -Rick

Hoeg Law

Probably cuz Hoeg knows the type of podcaster Gene is. Bro just tramples over everybody except Colin.

Diddy’s Dong Quest

Hoeg is articulate and smart but when you do a lot of podcasts you have to learn to self edit. In short; he needs to stfu sometimes and understand how a 3 way podcast works. His entire schpiel about coffee and relating it to some Star Trek episode followed about his 12th unnecessary interjection. You hate coffee and that’s somehow an issue on par with Taj’s non binary forceness? Cmon bro, not everything that pops into your head needs to come out the mouth.

The Rose Experience

Gene you're my Inky ❤️❤️

Morgan

I think a big reason is the lack of investment in new AAA single player teams by the big 3rd parties. The few teams that do spring up seem to get one game before being relegated to support for one of the many live service ventures out there. If there was a healthy supply of "new guard" studios taking the reins from the "old guard", I think people would have less of an attachment to the empty husky that Bioware has become

Seany Mac

Hurts more for me as a big fan of Inquisition and I actually enjoyed Andromeda. I hate to throw around the word cope but people saying anything positive about this game are living off cope. Nice visuals, even if it is a shitty art style, that’s about it for me. All subjective of course but good god I can’t find anything redeeming about this game.

Daddy T

BioWare was cooked after Mass Effect 3’s ending and all the talent left. Why anyone chooses to waste money on their slop is beyond me

Katana Silver

Shout out to Hoeg at the end, I don't think Veilguard is that great of a game myself, but I also found that SkillUps review wasn't his most accurate hes put out, nice to see someone call that out instead of just blindly praising it. Media literacy is incredibly important for critics, and I think Hoeg hit the nail on the head with Matty's review being much more useful and informative from a critical perspective.

The Late Nate

Haha, I thought Hoeg started it and Gene was just getting payback.

Your Boi Nicky V

I love Gene, but Christ he interrupts all the time. And then when somebody else tries to chime in he just keeps talking over them.

Diddy’s Dong Quest

The galaxy’s population is getting turned into soup and according to the story, it’s more important to do 16 side missions to recruit characters and then another 16 side missions to gain their loyalty…. All to pad out a 4 hour long main quest line. Seems legit right? And if you aren’t a full paragon or full renegade, you’re not getting the ending you wanted because you didn’t gain a characters loyalty. Oh and if you don’t play the stupid probing mini game, some random squad member just dies going through the omega 4 relay. You can critical path mass effect 1, beat it in 16 hours, and get the same results you would putting in 40 into ME2 or 3 doing everything because if you don’t, the outcome you get sucks.

CUMSoftware

Hoeg and Gene constantly interrupting each other 😂😂 it's like the Impractical jokers where Sal and Jo keep saying 'let me stop you right there'

Your Boi Nicky V

I love guys. But fuck me, let each other finish a thought before interjecting. Obviously I'm not talking about Matty

Phil Walker

It looks to me like the only reason EA keeps them around is because everyone said they would eventually kill them for years, there will be a massive negative reaction etc, but at this point it would be a mercy kill... They aren't even a real Bioware.

Danio

Defending any aspect of this piece of shit and then slandering Mass Effect 2 is fucking nuts

Daddy T

what’s up with this obsession with keeping mediocrity around? if you preform bad at any other job you’d be lucky to get 2 chances. Bioware has gotten 3 and missed every time. why keep them around?

Save Scum Goblin

Mass Effect 2 is peak, actually.

DJChazzyCheff

Act 1 of BG3 has more choice and consequence than the entirety of DAV

Save Scum Goblin

Pipe down, lady Fuck

Adam Barnes

I really like your profile pic. Last of Us 2 is my favorite PlayStation game :)

Morgan

And you can customize it to your liking! This game is annoying in many respects but if you just wanna kill shit its great for it

Noah Friscopp

10 push up’s to everyone who misgenders someone in the comment section

Scott

Glad I dont have to waste money and time to play it now. “White Guilt: The Game” what a joke of a company EA continues to be

Trevor Myers

Veilguard getting a spoiler cast before Metaphor feels wrong somehow lol

Feedbackghost

Excellent trio and I think this just sold me on the game. I know the writing is bad and annoying, I know the choices don't matter, blah blah. I don't give a shit about the story anyway. I heard them say the combat is the best BioWare's ever had and as an action RPG, it's pretty good. That's all I needed to hear. When it hits a sale, I'm in. Thanks guys.

Ian (616Entertainment)

Shout out to Hoeg! MASS EFFECT 2 FUCKING. SUCKS!

CUMSoftware

Awesome podcast today guys . Very good conversations

Patrick Beech

I’m sure all 14 dragon age veilguard fans are thrilled to see this

Dylbun

I came here for Veilguard slander not Mass Effect 2 slander why is this happening 😭

Zac

Lol, just saw angry Joe released his review also...

drew

Yea this is going to be a solid discussion. Unfortunately I haven't got to the game yet, to be able to listen ha ha

Beaver diva

Love this trio!

Meatball

Oh boy, this one will be good. Was honestly pretty bummed by the begining of the game but after I finished it I felt like this was the most 7/10 experience I’ve had this year. Combat is pretty neat, writing was ass and the last act was pretty solid.

Breno Bezerra Bluhm

Dragon AIDS the wokeguard lol lmao

Matt The Outlaw 🤠

3 hours and 20 minutes for a spoiler cast hahahahaha, here we go, thanks gang

Daddy T


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