Loki 1x4 - "The Nexus Event" Full REACTION!!
Added 2021-07-01 17:43:45 +0000 UTC
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@Raleigh "I mean, in terms of brutal conflict the Crusades lasted +200 years" And the highest estimate for the death toll was 3 million, compared to World War 2 which has its highest estimate at 120 million. And when you consider how widespread on the map it was compared to the Crusades, which took place mostly in the Middle East. " but Christianity is often used as the justification for subjugation. " So is a persons race.. So the claim of "religion is the cause of most wars" or "religion has done more harm than good" just doesn't work. It paints a picture that there' something inherently wrong with the religion that should be fixed but that humans without it would be part of a more peaceful society, when humans have always found new ways to divide and categorise each other (leading to more conflict). " So I guess I'd just say, instead of debates about whether religion has done more harm or help, we should have discussions around making religion the centers of help and love and compassion they said they'd be." I'd also say respecting other religions as well, its weird to say "making religion the centers of help and love they said they'd be" when most of charity literally comes from religious people. And of course, there are religious people who give charity only to use it at a way to bring others to their religion rather than for the sake of helping others, but it just adds to my point in general - that there are good and bad humans, but somehow the word is "religion" is painted as this blockade for progress with humanity.
awesomeusername
2021-07-09 23:16:31 +0000 UTCThe Flagsmashers literally ended up getting what they wanted though. Their ideology was corrupted but Captain America, who is as close to a symbol of justice in the form of a superhero, literally told the GRC what's what and ended up making change. None of this change would've happened if it weren't for the Flagsmashers. And your point on the TVA, yes there's fascist undertones but its more in the aesthetic than anything else. And the police brutality was on a guy who not so long ago just laid waste to a city as a villain, so not exactly comparable to a citizen being victim of police brutality. Although the recent episode shows a man being brutalised by the TVA, as well as a young Sylvie, it ultimately doesn't say much on the actual subject like free will vs determinism, where we're actually guessing if its one or the other. With the fascism thing, its just fascism is bad - not really a new or eye-opening idea.
awesomeusername
2021-07-09 23:11:23 +0000 UTCIkr, I'm actually more hyped for other episodes of Loki, than I was for Endgame.
Vagabond
2021-07-04 19:17:12 +0000 UTCI mean, in terms of brutal conflict the Crusades lasted +200 years and the Nazis and the Italians definitely weaponized the Christianity of +90% of their population to further their antisemitic rhetoric. Like, you're not wrong about greed and power, but Christianity is often used as the justification for subjugation. Like the genocide of indigenous peoples in the US... Columbus first visit? His letters back to Europe he had a glowing review upon how resourceful, kind, curious, etc the native people were. Upon finding they had gold? They're godless heathens who need to bend under the foot of Christianity for the sake of their mortal souls (and also so we can strip them of their resources). Slavery was also justified under religious dogma. ISIS was built on religious dogma. The KKK was built on religious dogma. Genocides everywhere are justified because of religious dogma. Might not be the *reason* for them, you're right it's usually power and greed, but it's the excuse. Not to say religion hasn't done good. Black churches in America, for example, where the cornerstone of the civil rights movement. And you're right, a lot of religious are meant to be about being kind, etc. So I guess I'd just say, instead of debates about whether religion has done more harm or help, we should have discussions around making religion the centers of help and love and compassion they said they'd be.
Raleigh
2021-07-04 07:45:34 +0000 UTCAnd with Loki, the very first scene has an example of police brutality in it, when she beats him with the time stick thing and floats about how he's still feeling the pain in real time. Every scene of the TVA has this fascist propaganda/corporate cult vibe to it; big brother style posters, that weird animated corporate video in the first episode. Like, there whole job is to police time. And they do it with this air of unquestioning confidence in their superiority to do it. Like the whole concept is inherently about fascist police states.
Raleigh
2021-07-04 07:01:17 +0000 UTCSo, I get your point on wandavision. I was referring to the flagsmashers when I said the "good guys" of fatws. They're agenda was the only one that's gonna actually bring material positive into the world... But their ideology runs contrary to Disney's bottom line, so Disney had to backpeddle and make them murderous radicals to justify them being the bad guys.
Raleigh
2021-07-04 06:56:26 +0000 UTCSaying religion has done more harm than good throughout history just isn't true, and its quite insulting when there's religions out there that are based around being kind and accepting towards others. Wars have been carried out for money, power, lands, etc. WW2 is far and away the most brutal conflict humanity has seen and it all came about due to Germany and Japan's militarism, worldwide economic depression, the Treaty of Versailles and the league of nations failing to maintain peace.
awesomeusername
2021-07-02 14:16:48 +0000 UTCWanda not owning her shit just makes her an anti-hero bordering on a villainess, and less worthy of sympathy, it doesn't de-legitimise her trauma or somehow remove all the talk about trauma throughout the show. Falcon and Winter Soldier had multiple good guys who stayed good, so not really sure what your point is here when the main good guy (Sam Wilson) straight up grilled the bureaucrats at the end to be better people on live television for 3 minutes straight. As for Loki, there's discussion on free will vs determinism, but an off-mark comment by Sylvie describing the TVA as fascists doesn't exactly mean the show is even close to fascist commentary.
awesomeusername
2021-07-02 14:05:49 +0000 UTCImagine at the end, we find out the real timekeeper is actually another Loki variant? LoL! Or…. Maybe it’s been Kang the Conquerer all along!
Philip
2021-07-02 12:50:17 +0000 UTCAnywho, interested to see how this ends. Wandavision was about trauma but they failed to hit the mark on Wanda owning her shit. Falcon and the Winter Soldier said a lot of good stuff on race and other inequities, but ultimately had to make the good guys the bad guys to cause Disney needs to protect it's status quo. This show, on top of the predetermination stuff, def seems to be talking about police state/fascism stuff... And it'll be interesting to see where that goes in the end.
Raleigh
2021-07-02 09:59:44 +0000 UTCAyyyeeee, Imon making a Withnail and I reference!
Raleigh
2021-07-02 09:56:27 +0000 UTC
