Identity verification
Added 2023-08-09 13:37:27 +0000 UTCWell... It happened...
I got a message last week to vertify my identity and age so I can continue uploading and getting paid here on Patreon. And don't take me wrong, I can understand some of the reasoning behind all this, but the method to give us your data or get the fuck out seems more like blackmail to me, treating us like possible criminals.
And we all know how safe and secure is to submit our information online is, especially to a company as Patreon with its questionable practices in the past.
They say the data is safe, but it only takes a change in management or current political views to readjust what do they do with this information. I'm sure this can't end up as a wall of shame for adult content creators, right?
We all know the old say that "information is power" and that goes a thousandfold nowadays. I was always cautious with my digital footprint, not leaking any accidental info of myself online, and now I feel like I just gave a loaded gun to someone I don't know or trust.
I may be a bit negative or paranoid here, but i'm worried. What do you guys think of this? A good idea? Or something shady?
Comments
I think you're right. But I just can't shake this bad feeling out of my head. Maybe i'm just too paranoid, but nowadays every bad thing that can happen eventually happens.
SitriAbyss
2023-08-14 23:07:23 +0000 UTCYes, it's sad but all true what you say. I just really hope this will not backfire later.
SitriAbyss
2023-08-14 23:03:05 +0000 UTCI think it should be illegal to use information in a way that contradicts the terms under which it was originally collected, regardless of a change in management or political views. There should be a law, if there isn't one already, that says that if information is collected under the condition that you will not do X with it, then you cannot use it for X, EVER, even if your policies change, unless the information is reacquired under different terms.
Caratron
2023-08-14 14:06:33 +0000 UTCI am not happy about it at all, but I verified my identity as well. They could have just asked for my credit card, which has already verified my ID. They absolutely don't need photos of me stored forever on their servers. It's absolutely unacceptable to me, and a major overreach. But there just isn't another valid alternative to Patreon yet. Subscribestar? I tried it for 3 months and didn't get a single subscription. Paypal doesn't allow any adult content, period. DeviantArt? They started restricting adult content way before Patreon did. The only other real option to me is to build your own website, but I barely have time to produce my content let alone manage a whole website on my own. :/
Mr. Phoenyxx
2023-08-11 17:04:50 +0000 UTCThank you very much. I really appreciate your support :)
SitriAbyss
2023-08-10 22:45:49 +0000 UTCThis is a hard issue to deal with. Seems like its happening in more and more places and its starting to feel very repressive. Do what is best for you Sitri. If you move to somewhere else just let us know and I'll follow.
funfun74
2023-08-10 14:01:47 +0000 UTCYeah, I get what you mean. That's probably one of the reasons I refuse to do political stuff or be vocal about it. I have my opinion, but i'm not sure it's worth a ban. And if you mean the USA, then you're right. It has a recent feud with my coutry because our government refused to give out info about our certain citizens because we all know how well they handle confidental data.
SitriAbyss
2023-08-10 11:26:18 +0000 UTCI left PayPal when they started un-banking people for political reasons. Moving is annoying but I know my government has no issue trying to force companies to give up information like that.
forty_five
2023-08-10 11:19:47 +0000 UTCSo I looked into it a bit, it looks like they're asking because they use Mastercard to process pledges and Mastercard is requiring age verification for creators of "Adult" stuff. They did, however, have this on a bit about alternate ways to verify that you are over 18. "What if I don’t have a government-issued identification to submit? You’ve shared lots of ideas for how we can prioritize inclusivity throughout this process. With that in mind, we’re developing a list of alternative (non-government-issued) IDs we’ll be able to accept. If you’d like to go this route, there’s no action required immediately; we’ll share the list of acceptable alternative ID types, along with next steps, in the coming months." So if you wait for a bit you might be able to use something you find to be less worrying.
Bonin
2023-08-10 03:17:58 +0000 UTCAre they asking because of country laws, "state" laws, or because Patreon wants to know. That's my real question.
Bruce W. Liu
2023-08-10 01:58:52 +0000 UTCGive a fake id
Jebediah Kerman
2023-08-09 23:36:40 +0000 UTCThe bigger and more well-known a platform becomes, the more likely it has to bow to the rules of the brand or get caught up in the clutches of legislators. Unfortunately, the other continents also fail to be better at it but regularly fail through lobbying. I understand you very well, but I don't see a way out of it either.
Bastian
2023-08-09 23:26:04 +0000 UTCPatreon has a legal requirement to check in many areas. I would at the very least make sure to edit out any information they have no business knowing, like your social security number.
Jeroen van den Broek
2023-08-09 18:22:30 +0000 UTCall I have to say is paypal and discord or deviantart
1-Re-Set
2023-08-09 18:13:33 +0000 UTCThank you.
SitriAbyss
2023-08-09 14:29:48 +0000 UTCI'm working on it. I have at least half of it ready for later Sunday, but the other half might come out around next week.
SitriAbyss
2023-08-09 14:29:33 +0000 UTCThat’s cool & all, but when’s the next comic update
Jay
2023-08-09 14:24:42 +0000 UTCDon't give too much info and like someone else mentioned, covered your ID number so someone else can't copy your card.
RJ
2023-08-09 14:07:23 +0000 UTC
