DonSilverStories : Toxic Attraction: Chapter 26

She needs to tell him she no longer needs him sexually, which has been the case for awhile.

Mark Albright

2025-02-23 16:57:35 +0000 UTC

So I think the story has to deal with this fundamental transformation of the relationship between Sarah and Dan….needs to be dialogue between the two, which is what Don Silver is very good at….whatever it turns out to be between Dan and Sarah - a confrontation, a reckoning, a realization, a heart-to-heart - it needs to happen.

Rjh200m

2025-02-23 16:36:53 +0000 UTC

Sarah’s perspective has completely changed since then. From TA25: “She realized she could have experienced this new level of pleasure years ago. She and Dan could have taken this leap and done it, but they never did. Both had been happy to leave things in fantasy land, but if Sarah had known how amazing it would feel, she would have pushed for more a long time ago. It was Lester who was the catalyst that led to Sarah experiencing new orgasmic heights she’d never dreamed possible. It was Lester who was constantly pushing and expanding her sexual horizons and introducing her to new carnal pleasures. She opened her eyes in search of Lester, hoping that he would be there. All she saw was the darkness of the room. Even though the two men had taken turns with her, she hadn’t experienced them both simultaneously, something she desperately wanted to try now. “ Lester is Sarah’s sexual god.

Richardcat

2025-02-23 15:57:19 +0000 UTC

Definitely not. Dan will likely have to sleep on the futon or, more likely, Sarah will go to Lester’s hotel.

Richardcat

2025-02-23 15:32:00 +0000 UTC

Who thinks that when Dan comes home for the weekend, it will be like when he came home for the weekend back in Chapter 11 - “….Dan groaned as he rolled over and reached for his phone from the nightstand…….He felt Sarah’s warmth as she stirred next to him……Dan smiled. It felt good to be back in his bed in Middleton again….”Hmmmmm,” Sarah purred as she rolled towards him, laying her hand on his chest, “It was nice just having the house to ourselves last night. I really enjoyed it.”….Dan smirked knowingly, “So did I. It was amazing.”…..”It was,” Sarah nestled into the crook of Dan’s arm. “I’m glad you could come home.”….”Me too,” Dan said.

Rjh200m

2025-02-23 14:01:11 +0000 UTC

same here

Tom

2025-02-22 10:06:28 +0000 UTC

Royston Smith - I've started writing my own series - Slipping into Depravity, on literotica. Check it out. As to TA 27, I think I have a feel for Don's logic, and how he plays his characters. But I'm flattered.

Darrow

2025-02-21 16:23:51 +0000 UTC

Darrow, are you sure you haven’t had a sneak preview of TA 27? Without getting unto specifics your analysis is uncannily near the mark with regard to what happens with the videos. My mistake was to actually believe we were going to move forward with the financial pressure piling up on the Williams’. I should have known the hamster wheel won’t stop spinning whilst the golden goose is still alive.

Royston smith

2025-02-21 14:16:04 +0000 UTC

RJH200m I once got into a situation with a person who was larger and stronger than me, and their friends. It was going to go really badly and there was no question they could hurt me a lot. But at the same time, I made it clear I was willing to hurt that person, and genuinely hurt them. No fooling around. I might get the worst, but they would be hurt. In the end, they decided not to get into it - the prospect of really getting hurt dissuaded them. They could hurt me much more. But I'd still hurt them. That's kind of how the situation is. Sarah could be hurt a lot more by exposure, the public situation could be ugly for her. But two things: First, that's a risk Lester's completely willing to take and blame on Dan, he doesn't really face consequence personally. Second, even if Sarah comes off worse, Dan gets hurt - he's publicly humiliated as a cuck, his career, already borderline, goes down the toilet. No one wants to hire an employee trailing a tail of scandal. Dan's friends and relatives, his associates, will be sympathetic to him, and they'll condemn Sarah. But every one of them will see Dan as a pathetic loser who couldn't keep his wife and lost her to a fat slob he was renting a room from. And Dan will know that everyone from his best friend to distant acquaintances will see him as a pathetic loser. Every time he speaks to them, he'll see it in their eyes. So the question for Dan, if either Sarah or Lester backs him up against the wall, will be "Do I really want to pull that trigger, if I have any other choice." Or.... "Do I go with my depression and not do anything, get copies of the videos, masturbate to them a lot, and tolerate the new situation until I can figure out something better." I think Sarah's preference is that the videos should stay private between her and Lester... and maybe let Dan watch now and then (maybe not let him possess them, but definitely let him watch). I think Sarah will enjoy making and watching videos. And I think that both She and Lester will count on Dan wanting to keep them private as well, and being unwilling to risk a confrontation. Following up on Earl, yes, I believe long term he's right. In the long run, Sarah and her videos will become an income earning property.

Darrow

2025-02-21 06:26:13 +0000 UTC

RJ, I agree with you. Lester already has a buyer for videos of Sarah, and I see this purely as a source of revenue for Lester. I don't see Sarah objecting to any videos and do agree with Darrow's theory that this is a new step for her into voyeurism. I also agree with Darrow of the use of videos to use for extortion against the likes of Richard and Mary when they fuck Sarah not realizing they have been set up by the Two conspiring perverts. Dan may see one or two just so Lester can keep his foot on him and maintain control of his now hopelessly addicted wife.

Earl0849

2025-02-21 01:13:35 +0000 UTC

Darrow - I have to argue the other side with respect to your contention that conceivably Sarah could be willing to make videos to threaten Dan with their release, as a way to humiliate him as a public cuck. I think that our society being what it is (referring to the US), Sarah would come out looking much worse than Dan and she would receive the brunt of the criticism. And….are we certain that Dan is on any of the videos? Lester was taking videos of Sarah and him, but did that include Dan when he was present? I think you posted a great comment a while back about a potential divorce trial where you made the case that Dan would come across as the villain. That made sense assuming perfect information in the proceedings, but many times it’s one person’ word against the other. Dan could deny that he set Sarah on this path. But if videos are released, it could be used to portray Sarah as a cheating wife and unfit mother, etc. She would be seen as a willing participant with no coercion. I don’t think the story will go in this direction, but as a theoretical question I just don’t see why Sarah would want anything she does with any partners in the public realm. Of course it is a different outcome if she is forced to do this or it is done without her knowledge. But as an intentional release to humiliate Dan, I don’t see it happening.

Rjh200m

2025-02-20 23:45:48 +0000 UTC

We've known all the way back that Lester likes to video. That he keeps a video file of his conquests. That he was surveilling Sarah in bed, in the bathroom, her actions. He had video on Lizzie and blackmailed her. He has video of his other conquests. When he was at Sarah's house, the same trip he was looking through their financial records, he video recorded, and jerked off later. So it's going on all along - Jessie and Otis are just the latest. I don't think he's planning blackmail. My impression of Don's approach to plotting is that he lays in things a long time in advance, before moving into a build up phase He's not in build up phase on this. The only wrinkle here is that Sarah saw him recording. But all the way back to the early period - Sarah videorecorded her first encounter with Lester when Dan (Jesse) told her to fuck them. She's been exchanging nasty photos with Lester for a while I think Sarah is reaching or has reached the stage with Lester, emotionally and sexually, where she just won't mind him recording her. After all, he asked her to blow Otis, why wouldn't he want to watch? She knows he likes pictures and vids, why wouldn't he want to record it, so he could enjoy it later. Or so they can both enjoy it later, together. She might talk to him, or ask him about it. But more along the lines of "if you wanted to record it, we should have found someplace with better lighting." Or "share it. I want to watch too!" The outcome is that she'll be a willing participant on the camera going on here in. I think that's the big development from this - not the potential for blackmail or extortion. I bold new phase in her sexual liberation, a new perversion to explore - exhibition, voyeurism. She's going to be a very willing video star for Lester, with him, with Otis, performing alone, perhaps even with other 'guest stars' who aren't aware. If coercion, blackmail or extortion is in the works, it may well go the other way. She may voluntarily make videos with Lester or Otis for Dan, to placate him, or to put him in his place. Either to humiliate him, or let him know that they can release the videos and everyone will know his wife is fucking around - he's a public cuck. She may voluntarily make videos at Lester's direction. For instance - a blackmail situation with Thornhill. She might have sex with Thornhill, endure coercive sexual harassment, even threats, might comply reluctantly... and just record it all.

Darrow

2025-02-20 20:00:41 +0000 UTC

We thought chapter 26 was going to be very interesting too and look what happened.

Michael Haase

2025-02-20 10:02:22 +0000 UTC

Ok guys, looks like I stirred up a hornets nest with my predictive post for 27. Sometimes, I think only RJH reads things properly and responds intelligently on here. Attention to detail is not your strong suit, obviously, guys. So, let’s get one thing straight. I wasn’t saying Sarah needed any encouragement to take further steps down the road to perdition. What I was saying was, Lester is obviously intent on breaking the couple financially. So, what role will the video he has taken of Otis in a compromising situation with Sarah, play in that goal? My thesis posited 3 examples of how Lester may use the Otis video, all involving indirect and anonymous machinations behind the scenes. None involve using the threat of the video being released directly by Lester to coerce her. Sarah thinks Lester is on her side. Why would he give that up by becoming the bad guy? No, he will get Otis, or Mary to do the dirty work for him, by manipulating things in the shadows. Sarah is scared to death of losing her job, due to the financial pressure the couple are under. If a compromising video fell into the wrong hands (i.e. Mary) she would be ripe for blackmail. Alternatively, an anonymous emailing of the Otis video to Dan, along with a blackmail threat, may be Lester’s preferred path to turn the financial screws on the couple. You will remember in a previous chapter (or perhaps you won’t) Lester sitting alone and naked in Dan’s office whilst Sarah had to go to work. In that scene he read through all the Williams’ financial documents and discovered how indebted they were. All Lester has to do is apply some more financial pressure and the Williams’ financial house of cards will come tumbling down. And oh how sweet for Lester to be there to offer succour to his “slut playing dress-up” when she needs Daddy to help her out! Let’s see what unfolds. I think 27 will be very interesting, unless the golden goose honks from off stage yet again.

Royston smith

2025-02-20 05:03:58 +0000 UTC

I do not see Sarah not cooperating with anything Lester wants. But again I must ask where is all this fucking and sucking going to take place? Home, Hospital, Chicago? How about over at Otis's place? Does not matter open season on Sarah and nobody is going to fine out is that correct? So far we have Jesse coming down an uber full of game players, Byron and who the hell knows how many more. Then after Sarah is fucked till she passes out sinks to the all time low she is still going to keep her kids and continue with her lifestyle. No intervention by anyone just business as usual. SURE!

Earl0849

2025-02-19 16:05:10 +0000 UTC

It doesn't serve Lester's interests to force Sarah into anything, at least not yet. He gets off on getting her to willingly choose to do things. Sure, he may push it a little and then she gives in, but that's a lot different than a threat. So far there haven't been any threats. Those are held back until there is a full refusal to cooperate.

Sigma

2025-02-19 14:54:51 +0000 UTC

I'll go with that. Sarah will do anything. Hell, she'll make a video. Remember she made videos for Dan the first time she fucked Lester. At some point, during a blow job, she'll ask Lester to get out his camera and record. A video is for other purposes.

Darrow

2025-02-19 13:07:47 +0000 UTC

For once I partly agree with Earl. Lester doesn’t need a video to blackmail Sarah into doing anything. This chapter shows that. Most likely use of the video is to show Dan. Probably after Sarah has given her husband a less than complete picture of her extra activities as exhibit a as to her disregard for him and their marriage,

LB

2025-02-19 04:22:35 +0000 UTC

You and me both.

Darrow

2025-02-19 03:29:50 +0000 UTC

I think Sarah is too far gone to require any push from Lester for compliance. Sarah will do his Bitting up to and including exposing her children to him and leaving her children for him. Should Lester survive I see her with him but not in her home and not with her children. I see her as a mirror image of what she once was but rather like him sloppy and dirty. I expect they will work together and continue to feed their addictions to exploit and destroy other couples and single women. I think Dan will overcome his weakness and raise the girls and Sarah will not be allowed to have contact with them as her and Lester pose a danger to them. I think Lester will die leaving Sarah with a great deal of money, but she will never overcome her addiction to cock. She will live a very lonely life.

Earl0849

2025-02-19 01:47:19 +0000 UTC

Royston - many possibilities! If Lester wants to be the “bad guy,” all he has to do is imply to Sarah that her job is in jeopardy if she does not consent to anything he wants to do. And this would mean no hesitation on Sarah’s part, for example if Lester said that she needs to make it up to him by having him come for dinner and stay the night. And certainly no hesitation on Sarah’s part because of what Dan might think. This has been Lester’s goal all along - to have Sarah available to him with no limitations. The other tact that Lester could take, as you mention, is to be the “good guy” by rescuing Sarah from a blackmailer, who ever it is. Then presumably Sarah would be even more grateful to Lester and comply with any request he has. But the key to both is to make sure that Dan understands the leverage that Lester holds so that Dan is also neutralized. I think that Lester will have Sarah do the needful with Dan - If Lester is the bad guy , Sarah says…”Hey Dan, if we don’t do what Lester says, I lose my job and we lose the house, so you need to cooperate.” If Lester is the good guy, Sarah says….”Hey Dan, Lester saved my job, and now he is helping with this blackmail, I am grateful to him and I, no we, owe him…..and you need to cooperate.” What happens after this and what Lester ultimately does with all of this power over Sarah and Dan is TBD. But I will say this, the Williams’ will need money to have any hope of extracting themselves from Lester’s grip (assuming Sarah even wants to do this). In the story as it now stands, a source of money could be The Lincoln Group, Jesse (his family is wealthy?) or perhaps the parents of Dan or Sarah if they are wealthy. Who knows, but without financial resources, Sarah and Dan will fall deeper into the black hole being dug by Lester.

Rjh200m

2025-02-18 21:46:30 +0000 UTC

Darrow, sign me up for option 9, all of it. Would be a dream cum true...rock bottom

whiterhino

2025-02-18 19:14:08 +0000 UTC

I ask again you think the family is not going to find out about this and not ask questions? You think that Sarah Lester & Otis shenanigans is not already spreading through the hospital and won't get to parents? It is a small town. You think that Dan does not have a breaking point? He is a coward and will just fade away. The family will totally except Lester? A dirty slime ball just taking over a family. Just good old Uncle Lester walking around the home in his boxer's dirty shirt with his dick out. Sarah on her knees sucking his cock like a tramp with the Kids in the house and Dan. Mom stopping by talking to Dan and kids while the tramp gets fucked upstairs. I'm not buying it.

Earl0849

2025-02-18 17:53:33 +0000 UTC

So, a lot of predictions regarding future events, and in particular ch. 27, have been made recently by silverites. Here are mine to add into the sizzling stew of speculation. We all know Lester is the prime mover of events in this series, so it’s probable that what he does next will define the immediate course of the story. Lester’s next steps are quite clear from the following quotation, which reveal his plans, from ch. 26:”Further weaken the Williamses financially and impregnate the mother. The idea of walking into their home and taking Sarah upstairs while Dan attended to his daughters and his progeny played in his mind”. So, to me that is his medium/long term term aim. It won’t happen in the next chapter as the trap has to be set first, both by manufacturing the fake bc pills and replacing them with the real ones (impregnating the mother) and by driving S&D down into a pit of debt and financial armageddon (“further weaken the Williams’ financially”). If Lester is to”walk.. into their home and take Sarah upstairs while Dan attended to his daughters and his progeny” then Dan will have to be completely defeated, emotionally and financially. The outline and initial steps of his dastardly plan may well become evident in 27, however. So how will he further weaken the williams’ financially? Re-read this from the end of 26: “Otis was the perfect pawn to push in the next phase of Lester’s plan. Sarah had already let herself go with Jesse. Now, with Otis in her workplace, his financial stranglehold on the couple could truly begin”. Lester has recorded both Jesse and Otis’ assignations with Sarah. So, what will he do with them? I think Steve’s idea of Lester anonymously emailing the videos may be spot on. Presumably, the anonymous emailer will threaten Dan with blackmail unless he pays him a hefty sum. Cue Uncle Lester with his bottomless pockets. Sarah asks him for financial help and the financial noose tightens. It may also threaten their marriage when Dan sees the videos and confronts Sarah. The only problem with this scenario is Sarah saw Lester videoing her Otis blowjob. Would she not put 2 and 2 together? So, it may be that Lester chooses to use Otis as his pawn in another way. The logical move would be for Lester to offer Otis further “access” to Sarah if he threatens her with blackmail. By her own admission the williams’ need her to keep her job:”She’d come extremely close to losing her career at the hospital. She didn’t even want to contemplate what that would have meant for her family. Dan still hadn’t found stable footing in Chicago, and they absolutely needed her income. More than that, they’d be better off severely cutting down on some of their expenses and adjusting their lifestyle. If it hadn’t been for Lester’s intervention, things might have become really bleak”. So, getting Otis to blackmail her, perhaps anonymously, so she fears for her job, may be the way Lester goes. “I know what you are doing Sarah Williams”, says the anonymous blackmailer. Of course, a 3rd possibility would be Mary getting wind of Sarah’s misdeeds in the basement, perhaps by Lester “accidentally”sending her the incriminating video. If Sarah lost her job this would allow Lester to ride to the rescue yet again to save the williams financially. Perhaps his imagining of walking into their home and taking Sarah upstairs while Dan attended to his daughters and his progeny may happen sooner rather than later.

Royston smith

2025-02-18 17:17:12 +0000 UTC

Rjh200m - I agree with you. I think Dan will be blindsided by the idea of her actually having feelings. He hasn't seen Lester as a romantic rival, only a sexual interloper. He's going to really struggle with this, and its unpredictable. As to your second point - good question. Excellent question, actually. I think we've all been noticing for something like ten or fifteen chapters at least that the Dan / Lester contest has been increasingly one sided. Dan hasn't actually scored a win since he caught Lester in bed in his house and kicked him out. Since then, he's been increasingly sidelined, repeatedly humiliated, and his few efforts have fizzled. He hasn't been in the running, or in the contest, and that's undermined the story somewhat. Don played a little bit with Dan manning up and thinking, but as of the last couple of chapters, he's all but paralyzed on the edge of clinical depression. How does the story keep going if Dan ceases to be a factor, and Lester runs the board in every way? Maybe this is a kind of ironic O'Henry culmination? Lester gets rid of Dan, gets full possession of Sarah, but discovers that his life is eaten. Now that he has Sarah, and a pregnant Sarah, he has her house, her kids, responsibilities as a father, a regular day job, the whole nine to five. Suddenly, he's no longer able to be selfish, cheetoh eating, a slob, an inveterate game player. The life he built around himself, that satisfied and gave him so much pleasure, gets shunted aside or erased, and he ends up living Dan's life - both better at it, and incredibly unhappy and frustrated with it. Lester gets everything he ever wanted, but it turns out to be a kind of hell. That's a fun notion. I don't think Don will go there. So how does Don keep the story going - since that's the lucrative thing to do. I'm not sure. Dan has to make a renaissance, I guess. Or maybe he needs to find an ally against Lester. Both of those seem unlikely. Possibly, Lester gets a new adversary, or another player moves forward as an adversary of nemesis. That's tough though. I thought Byron might have taken that role. Byron is literally the single sexual encounter that Sarah's had that wasn't directly under Lester's control. Byron also had the bullying dominating personality, the ruthlessness and fixation, and the physical resources to put Lester on the back foot. I was looking forward to this 'Battle of Titans' over Sarah's body, where Byron's bullying and bullishness, and Lester's scheming and stealth had her bouncing between them, with Dan being used as an unwitting pawn. BUT... that went nowhere. It just fizzled. Like, fuck... I was disappointed. There were signs of something developing with Thornhill and his purge and sexual harassment. But that's been strictly background and the sexual harassment has vanished. We're almost down to Otis becoming a romantic rival and challenge to Lester. But I don't see that. I really don't know. Maybe the answer is Sarah herself. She falls out with Lester, or sees through him, but is unable to easily extricate herself. Her only choice is to play a deeper game, go along with him, fuck him on command, play the nymph, until she can escape or overcome. But given her emotional shift.... You've asked a good question, and I just don't know. I'm not sure that Don knows himself, given the last ten chapters.

Darrow

2025-02-18 05:33:17 +0000 UTC

Darrow - it’s great how you bring so many facets of the story together. Just a couple of thoughts - Agree that Sarah and Dan will have a confrontation around the issues you mention, but I also think she will reveal to Dan how her feelings for Lester have evolved and how central to her emotional well being he has become. I think Dan will be completely blindsided by this. If Dan’s challenge to Lester flames out….and Sarah’s work situation deteriorates as you describe….and Dan’s employment/side business craters….isn’t the story over? Lester wins, he achieves all of his goals….what’s next? more of the same?

Rjh200m

2025-02-18 01:19:06 +0000 UTC

Things coming to a head. Hmmm. In descending order of probability. First thing - I think we see a major blowout between Dan and Sarah. They've both got issues they've been papering over, and they've both been readying for a fight. Sarah's increasingly tired and resentful of Dan, sees him as ineffectual and childish, and is frustrated that while she's under increasing stress at home and in the workplace, he's not carrying any load. I think she's resentful on the Byron score, and that's going to be brought up. Second thing - Lester and Dan. This will be Dan's last stand, his last chance at a victory, and he'll probably have it. Whenever it comes to one on one, Dan dominates Lester. He can just never make it last. This will be the pattern. And unfortunately, Sarah's going to perceive this as Dan's bullying. Third - The wheels are coming off Sarah's job. Major reduction in pay, family crisis, and Lester is going to be the only thing standing between them and ruin. Dan will eat crow, like he always ends up doing. The relationships are going to realign. Fourth - Hijinks at work. I'm going to guess here - could be sexual harassment from Thornhill. Mary taking revenge. Otis may be going to full penetration. And Sarah may see, willingly or unwillingly, a realignment from competent administrator to hospital bimbo. Fifth - Jessie's approaching blowout stage, and likely about to act badly, look for a target. Right now, the closest most obvious candidate for hurting is Dan. Sixth - Dan's workplace situation may be about to get dramatically worse. Either he's fired by Walt, or Sentinel blows him off. Seventh - Dan somehow makes a breakthrough, somewhere in his life somehow. This seems like an ass pull. But seriously, the guy's been circling the toilet with no obvious hope. Maybe he needs a deux ex machina. Eighth - Long shot, but only barely less likely than Dan catching a break: Byron, our favourite alcoholic, psychopathic bully, Lincoln Group villain re-enters. He's mainly been absent from the story, and for so long and so consistently, it would be shocking for him to be reintroduced. But if Dan can catch a break... anything could happen. Ninth - Things we won't see, but would be fun. Sarah in Chicago getting blacked by her pizza delivery guy. Cash giving the third person to Sarah in Chicago. The return of Vernon in Sarah in Chicago. Anonymous sex while parking with Lester in Chicago. Another DnD game with Sarah. Sarah's bukkake birthday. The revenge of Lizzie. Basically, I'm totally into anything that gets more cocks into Sarah, including previous supporting players stepping up, or new players putting it in.

Darrow

2025-02-17 23:03:54 +0000 UTC

With the TA27 Alpha due to drop later this week, I thought we should revisit Don’s comments from the intro to 26. “There are a bunch of things happening in this chapter and things are moving forward. I am excited to get to the next chapter where some of these elements come to a head and things start to hit the fan.” Given those bread crumbs, what are your predictions for 27? If things are to “come to a head”, that suggests to me that Dan discovers that Sarah is a lot further gone than he realized. There are several ways that could happen. The videos Lester has been accumulating of Sarah in action, particularly with men other than himself (Jesse and Otis) seem to be a critical component. Perhaps Lester will use one of his remote servers to anonymously email them to Dan. Or Lester may discover that Dan has infiltrated his Discord server and post the videos there for all to see. This could be a really interesting scenario with Dan being horrified yet watching the comments of strangers watching his wife. Alternately, some other factor could initiate a confrontation between Dan and Sarah and Dan actually gets through to her. She realizes just how far she has fallen and swears off any sexual activities with anyone other than Dan. Lester could then use the videos to blackmail Sarah, threatening to send them to Dan or expose her activities with him and Otis in the hospital. Of course, once she gets another taste of her drug of choice (Lester’s cock), he can fully break her once and for all and make her agree to quit her birth control and be exclusively his.

Steve

2025-02-17 12:12:39 +0000 UTC

Rjh200m - You're absolutely right. The only good move would be to resign immediately, or at least start sending out resumes and looking for a new position the moment she was passed over. I can see why she didn't. She had the house to maintain, the mortgage to pay, all the expenses on her back. She was literally trapped. She didn't have the financial wherewithal or personal support to even consider taking a risk like that. Perhaps if Dan had been there to back her up and talk things over with her, she might have. Any kind of good career/office politics advice might have helped. But she didn't have that. As the homegrown rival and alternative to Thornhill, she was painted with a target. And while she felt humiliated by being passed over, it's clear she didn't really appreciate how she would be treated. Lester has incredible leverage to mess with her life. Hell, he doesn't even have to do much. She's a target, she's going to be saved. He can relax, enjoy it happening, and occasionally play the white knight.

Darrow

2025-02-15 05:25:25 +0000 UTC

"I've never seen you dress like that going to work. That skirt is so short, and are you even wearing a bra?" "Nope. This is how Lester likes me to dress. And he wants my tits to be easy access for him." "And he fucks you at the hospital?" "Every day. In fact, I need to get going. Daddy spanks me when I'm late. He's a good boss, but he can be very demanding. I don't mind, though. I like a man with a firm hand. And Daddy has a very firm hand. Now get busy with your chores, and if you do good, maybe I'll send you some pix."

Mark Albright

2025-02-15 03:01:03 +0000 UTC

Here is a possible discussion between Sarah and Dan when he returns home for the weekend….He gets back late afternoon on Friday and joins Sarah and the kids for dinner. After dinner more time with the kids, so Sarah and Dan don’t have time to talk. And Sarah tells Dan that she had a long week and was going to bed early. Reluctantly, Dan does the same. On Saturday morning, Dan wakes to see Sarah already dressed and he noticed on her left hand the ring Lester gave her. “Where are you going Sarah?” I need to go to work, Lester and I have to catch up on a few things”, Sarah replied. “Lester? What does Lester have to do with you going into work?” “I work for Lester now, Dan. Since you did not call me, I didn’t have a chance to tell you. And thank god he gave me this job because if he didn’t, I would be unemployed right now and you and I would be in serious trouble, we would lose the house, since you have still not gotten enough traction with your side businesses.” “Sarah, we need to talk about your relationship with Lester, that ring, and how you and I will deal with him…. “Stop!! Stop right there Dan! You need to stop acting so clueless….let me ask you something….since you and I first met Lester in his apartment….do you know how many times I have sucked his cock, how many times he has fucked me? How many times he has cum inside me with no condom? Including in the bed you are now lying on, in your apartment, at the hospital, in the hotel room, in his car, in my car? Over the past few weeks while you have been stuck in Chicago, it feels like, other than taking care of the kids, I have done nothing but get fucked by Lester…..now think about it, what have we done over the same period of time? And you know what, Dan? I need Lester in my life right now, he listens to me, he understands me, he treats me nice, he saved my job, and every time I even think about his cock, the stress just drains from my body. Dan just stared at Sarah, shocked. “But Sarah, I can do that for you. I’m your husband, please stay home today, you know how good it can be between us.” “I’m so sorry Dan….things have changed, I love you….but only Lester gives me what I need….its crazy how this has turned out, but I have changed….and we need to change. “I have to leave for work, Dan. So do me a favor…..stop acting so clueless and stop whining. Just think about what I said and how you will have to adjust…..Spend time with the kids today, they need you….and please have dinner ready for when I get home, around 6:00. “You have to work all day?” Dan asked. “Not really,. After we get done at the hospital, Lester is taking me out to lunch at that very expensive, fancy restaurant that just opened….then we are going back to his hotel room….Don’t look surprised, baby….I have to keep the boss happy.” “Oh, one other thing Dan. I left you a Honey Do list on the counter, which includes doing some laundry which I fell behind on during the week…..and don’t get upset, but you will find some of Lester’s work clothes and underwear in there. I practically had to tear the clothes away from him after we got up the other morning. I want to work on improving his hygiene and wardrobe. Daddy can be such a pig, as you well know Dan.

Rjh200m

2025-02-14 22:04:15 +0000 UTC

Love the descriptions of their sex noises! Would not be opposed to Lester purposely making Sarah queef when he pulls out in doggy, or her queefing when she cums

Resident Otis

2025-02-14 16:20:06 +0000 UTC

And she'll feel such relief not having to worry about money. She will tolerate the cut in pay at work because Daddy will take care of her.

Mark Albright

2025-02-14 14:54:56 +0000 UTC

MA - really good points about conditioning her with next step acting as wife with the joint bank account.

Rjh200m

2025-02-14 13:36:16 +0000 UTC

I've mentioned this before, but I think Lester's next step is to open a joint checking account with Sarah. They could go to the bank together and she could pretend to be his wife. He likes to condition her by having her pretend to be something. First, it was as his girlfriend in front of his nerd friends. Then as his fiancee at the restaurant. Next step as his wife. I don't think he ultimately wants to marry her, but he does want her to act like his wife. And not today's version of a wife, but the old-fashioned, Stepford wife version. And in Sarah's current state, she likes submitting to him. It's become almost second nature to her to follow his orders, now at work and outside work.

Mark Albright

2025-02-14 13:12:33 +0000 UTC

So Dan is in Chicago unless he moves back how does Lester get Sarah without the kids? I see where you are going but unless change of address for Dan kids still on table. Seems Like Lester would also have to fine Dan a job. Bad as he is perceived to be I do not see Dan going down without a fight and I wish we would soon get to it. The future of the kids is at stake here and I'm not sure at this point Sarah deserves to have them. I think she would abandon them should Lester ask her to. Serious shit here.

Earl0849

2025-02-14 13:06:03 +0000 UTC

Darrow - you are pretty much correct, Sarah’s professional prospects are very bad. She should have resigned immediately upon the transition of leadership to Richard. She did not and now she is stuck. My post was to draw out next steps for Lester since he keeps hinting that more chaos is in store for Sarah’s life. Perhaps if the next screw that is turned is a much lower salary for Sarah, this is really directed at getting Dan under control. Again, all of this will be news to Dan and he will see that he and Sarah are on the brink of financial disaster unless Lester is kept happy. And this means no opposition from Dan to whatever Lester wants to do with Sarah. And….it probably will be Sarah telling Dan that she has to do whatever is required to keep on the good side of Lester. In fact as you and others have said, she would welcome this and not even see it as blackmail. She could see it as Lester being her savior as you have mentioned, further driving the wedge between her and Dan. But Dan will get the real message.

Rjh200m

2025-02-14 11:45:41 +0000 UTC

Excellent thoughts 👍 of both of you

Richardcat

2025-02-14 06:43:58 +0000 UTC

Just some thoughts. Sarah has gone from being a senior hospital administrator, second in command and de facto CEO to being basically a glorified executive assistant, literally barely more than a receptionist, if that. A salary adjustment is inevitable, even without Lester. Particularly given how hostile Mary is. Even without Mary, she'd still be looking at a salary adjustment. I think she's literally got until the quarterly review. She definitely won't keep her salary in the next annual budget plan. As to her job prospects. She's so fucked. Here's the situation that any prospective employer will see. She was a senior hospital administrator when the hospital suffered a major financial and security catastrophe. So basically, she was part of the giant fuck up. The stink gets on her. The CEO and Tech group were fired over that, but she hung on, until the new management came in. Then she was demoted. And demoted again. And demoted again. All the way down to Executive Assistant. Any prospective employer who can read between the lines will read her as lazy, unmotivated deadwood from an old regime which stumbled blindly into catastrophe. And since then, she's just been proving herself incompetent at whatever descending level they try to find for her. That's not someone you want to hire. She's clearly not eligible for any senior management or regular management position. Her last job was Exec Assistant for gods sakes. That's the best level she can aspire too. But apparently, if she's looking elsewhere, she couldn't hack Executive Assistant. So realistically, she's only a credible applicant for levels below that. And there aren't many levels below Exec Assistant. Receptionist? Office Assistant? Mail girl? And she's not really going to be offered much beyond entry level wages. That's if she's offered anything, because, remember, her record plummet speaks to anyone who reads between the lines. And hell, even to get those jobs, she'd have to either go way outside hospital, and apply to literally any business, or if she stays in health care, leave the city. So basically, without Lester having to do anything at all on either front, she's so fucked its unbelievable. And she knows it. She knows the axe is coming down on her salary, and she knows her employability prospects are in the toilet. Her only real prospects are to work her way up from the bottom again, at the Hospital. Or to get incredibly lucky. And I mean, Jesse levels of luck - but she doesn't have connections like Jesse. Maybe Lincoln Group? Of course, this means that Lester could fuck her over with impunity. She'd never suspect him. Her position is so bad, he could wreck her career and salary and she'd never know it was him. Another critical factor, for what Sarah is going through - Her professional life sucks horribly, she's fucked in terms of finding anything else, she's looking at an inevitable reduction in salary with no way to pay for the house, Dan's financially useless, and he's useless for any other kind of support, everything is on her shoulders, and she's crumbling under the weight. The only good thing in her life, from her point of view is Lester. The only person who is backing her up or supporting her is Lester. The only thing that's positive and exciting is sex with Lester and whoever else he brings in. Look, its very simple: If your life sucks, and there's nothing you can do about any of it, except to try to hold on. And if you come across something that is good, that is supportive, and exciting and satisfying.... you glom onto that like an addict. It starts to be the reason you get up in the morning. It becomes the reason you go through the day's shit, for that one good thing. That one good thing gives you the strength to carry on. Your life starts to revolve around that one good thing. You are willing to shape and be reshaped for that one good thing. It's no surprise that she's falling in love with Lester, fixating on him, and feeling her morals and judgment get abandoned as he fucks her anywhere under any circumstance.

Darrow

2025-02-14 06:10:22 +0000 UTC

Lester did say in an earlier chapter that Sarah needed to be domesticated, she needed to be under his desk blowing him. Yes, she will be under his desk - not the desk in his bedroom, but his desk at work!

Rjh200m

2025-02-14 04:39:44 +0000 UTC

Although Dan knows that Lester is working at the hospital, he does not know that Sarah works for him….. We also know that Lester has said to himself that he hates working at the hospital but “the job was just a temporary means to an end.” Presumably this end is the further subjugation of Sarah and her subservience to him. For example, when he was talking to Sarah in his office that morning, he enjoyed “how subservient she’d become in the workplace power dynamics.”. Lester also noted to himself how lonely Sarah was “with Dan being so far away in Chicago.” And of course, he talked Sarah into wearing his ring at work and specifically told her that the point of people noticing the ring was “I want you walking around marked as mine.” And after Sarah left his office, he said to himself that he wanted to “further weaken the Williamses financially and impregnate the mother.” So what are Lester’s next steps? I think he will connive with Richard and Mary to have them threaten to reduce Sarah’s salary significantly because of her demotion. And to not give Sarah a good recommendation if she decides to resign and look for another job. Lester will then hold this over Sarah’s head as a way to further control her and Dan. Sarah would have to tell Dan that she now works for Lester….huge surprise #1 ….and that he controls her salary…huge surprise #2….and that if her salary is reduced by such a large amount they would not have enough income to make the monthly mortgage payments…huge surprise #3….and the prospects of her getting another job anytime soon is not good….huge surprise #4. This will be a pretty emotional conversation between Sarah and Dan, with each probably blaming the other for their predicament. Things would get even more explosive if Sarah possibly discloses to Dan that she fucked Lester in the house and in his office at work….and finally admits to Dan her two sexual encounters with Otis. At this point, Lester is in complete control of Sarah at work and at home. And he can demand pretty much anything he wants from both Sarah and Dan. Complete and total access to Sarah with no limitations as to where, when, how and with whom. But again, what is the end game for Lester? He has said many times that he wants to separate Sarah and Dan, which I think means that Dan has no influence on Sarah so that she is available to Lester on any terms he wants. With the above scenario, Lester obtains this so he does not need a break-up of the marriage. And this could also remove the other obstacle in Lester’s mind - the kids. With Sarah and Dan still married, but under his effective control, he gets Sarah without the kids. Regarding getting Sarah pregnant, Lester can probably do this any way he chooses, switch out the birth control pills, or tell Sarah he wants her to stop taking birth control.

Rjh200m

2025-02-14 04:37:22 +0000 UTC

And if she did slip to Lester’s level the thrill is gone for Lester and he’s on the look out for the next Sarah.

LB

2025-02-14 01:39:01 +0000 UTC

I sort of agree but I don’t think they want to destroy beauty. They like pretty things. It’s the thrill of separating the women from their concepts of morals & ideals. Lester & Burt have massive chips on their shoulders about being looked down on or just completely ignored by woman like Clara & Sarah. They want them to strip them of their prejudices. Have them ignore what they once considered right and wrong. While I was reading NE ch 3 I was drawn to the description of mudding and the bbq after. I asked myself the question, what would be the bigger taboo for Clara? Going mudding with Burt in a skimpy pair of shorts and a crop top? Having sex while there with Burt and maybe others? Or eating meat?

LB

2025-02-14 01:33:24 +0000 UTC

It's already headed that way since she is no longer asking Dan for permission to fuck Lester. Or even telling him about it. I'm sure she will lie to him the next time he asks her about Lester. "Oh, he's a great boss. Runs a very professional department. " Meanwhile, she disrobes every time she enters Lester's office. And crawls over to him to service him under his desk.

Mark Albright

2025-02-13 14:50:18 +0000 UTC

It might be fun to see an aggressive, resurgent Dan, returned to Middleton, laying down some rules. Dominating a Sarah who enjoys it thoroughly, and pimping her out to Lester only under his direct supervision. And pimping her out to other men to break of her the Lester habit. But at the same time, Sarah's so infatuated and sexually addicted to Lester, and so unwilling to give him up that she goes behind his back, sneaks around, and takes risks to see Lester. The more she's denied him, the more she craves him. This leads to secret text messages and kinky photos exchanged constantly, conspiracy to sneak off for quickies, a fixation on having Lester's come in her at all times, even romantic urges and impulses. Whenever Lester's near, she wants him so badly she can't stand it. Meanwhile, she has to play the good wife to Dan, a role that while she enjoys his sexual domination, it's just a substitute for what she really wants: Lester, all Lester, all the time, fucking her anywhere. She becomes fixated by denial, fantasizing about Lester fucking her in public on a table at a restaurant or blowing him in front of her friends. The story goes into cheating wife mode.

Darrow

2025-02-13 14:08:36 +0000 UTC

I think it’s mostly due to the fact that we have discussed just about every permutation of the story possible and we have been doing this for months…. Comments were running in the 200s or less until the last several chapters where they spiked. Not sure how much more we can discuss without a fundamental shift in the storyline or characters.

Rjh200m

2025-02-13 11:30:48 +0000 UTC

Comments have dried up. A sign the story is losing its appeal.

Michael Haase

2025-02-13 09:30:25 +0000 UTC

Your’e crazy.

Royston smith

2025-02-13 08:03:24 +0000 UTC

Chris, Good question.

Earl0849

2025-02-13 01:32:46 +0000 UTC

Who's Dan?

Chris K

2025-02-13 00:06:39 +0000 UTC

What about Dan! Shouldn’t he make at least a cameo appearance? Assuming he can find the time to get back to Middleton? Or perhaps if there are enough people there, he can serve up some food and drinks. And maybe act like a personal trainer for Sarah, keep her loose, wipe away sweat, direct traffic. Anything to reignite the matrimonial bond.

Rjh200m

2025-02-12 22:50:14 +0000 UTC

Darrow can always go with strap on, but point taken.

Earl0849

2025-02-12 19:41:39 +0000 UTC

Unless there's something about Mary, she can't contribute to making Sarah airtight.

Darrow

2025-02-12 18:46:28 +0000 UTC

Don't want the moron Jesse getting any of Sarah. Will take Richard and Mary at Sarah's home and caught by the parents. So Lester, Otis, Richard and Mary. Sarah airtight.

Earl0849

2025-02-12 18:05:03 +0000 UTC

Darrow, agree I would also expect home maintenance to suffer as well. Maybe personal hygiene. She is trending.

Earl0849

2025-02-12 17:58:19 +0000 UTC

Thinking about this, I'm remembering the chapter where Lester brings in Vernon, and he has Sarah dress in what amounts to a 'see through' nighty, where her bare breasts, hard nipples, ass and panties can easily be made out. There's a few moments of trepidation, I think. But once she's wearing it, she gets right into it, to the point of flirting with the Pizza Boy and literally reaching into his pants. She enjoys Verne's looking and crude single entendres, and even gets off on sexually performing in front of a very crude stranger. Under the right circumstances, Sarah might find herself willingly descending, step by step, down endlessly.

Darrow

2025-02-12 17:05:41 +0000 UTC

Call me crazy but I'd love to see a night of Sarah, Lester , Jesse, and Otis.

Chescojoe

2025-02-12 17:04:45 +0000 UTC

There is an impulse to destroy beauty. A chimp will never want anything more than to throw a brick through a stained glass window. The nature of men like Lester and Burt is to be eternally drawn to goddesses, and to destroy what they touch.

Darrow

2025-02-12 15:38:16 +0000 UTC

Sarah should never lose her class. That is what defines her. She should smell divine, her sartorial elegance should remain intact and her manners and etiquette be maintained. Otherwise guys would she still be Sarah? It’s like Darrows nightmare vision of a fallen “prostitute” Clara in his well written and imagined pastiche on where NE might go. I was with it until that last scene. So, Sarah (and Clara) should remain classy ladies who have forbidden and hidden desires but not become caricatures of their former selves.

Royston smith

2025-02-12 10:46:14 +0000 UTC

DS-for what it's worth, here is a plea/request that the next sex scene for Lester and Sarah revert back to more of a "making love" scene as Lester has periodically initiated whether it's in his hotel room or in Sarah and Dan's house. Some good dialogue about Sarah having Lester's baby boy... Would be great if the internal or explicit dialogue covered what Sarah was thinking/feeling when Lester "proposed" in the restaurant and she accepted the engagement ring. Something that hasn't really been explored. Also, would be interesting if Lester had Sarah role-play as his bride since they are already "engaged". Maybe, Lester could take Sarah shopping for her new wedding dress... or, at least, shopping for wedding night lingerie. Actually, having Lester and Sarah doing something in public again (whether in Middleton or not) would be exciting. Would be an interesting progression to hear Sarah's inner dialogue and/or Lester's comments about Sarah being in public with Lester and feeling more comfortable with that since Lester is becoming her alpha. (Maybe Sarah could have arranged for a sleepover for the girls, which would allow her to bring Lester back to their house and which would give Lester an opportunity to substitute the fake birth control pills, too). Just some thoughts for DS to consider. I'm fine with following along...

sp

2025-02-12 05:54:33 +0000 UTC

I don't think she'll get sloppy. This whole thing for her has been about developing as a sexual being, and being increasingly into displaying that sexuality. She wants to be looked at, to be desired, and to be wanted. Remember who much fun she had with the Pizza boy or the DnD group. I think she'll go the provocative route. Lower cut tops, tighter clothes, shorter skirts, more lingerie, brighter lipstick. At work, under Lester's influence, I think she'll evolve from dressing like a manager to dressing more and more like a secretarial pool bimbo. It'll be awkward for her, part of her will struggle with the loss of status and loss of respect... that's going to be ongoing. But at the same time, she'll find herself wanting to please Lester, so she'll dress the part more and more. And if Mary criticises or other women make catty remarks, she'll double down. It'll be 'why shouldn't I dress this way, you put me down here.' And 'at least men look at me.' Sort of slutty rebellion and defiance. She may even become openly provocative. I think she'll increasingly dress for attention, not class. I suspect if Lester's smart, he'll make a point of taking her out, so she can have attention from strangers. Best outcome, if there's an 'amateur stripper night' or 'wet t-shirt contest' - I can see her being pushed or interested in that. Not all the way to full nudity, but say down to bra and panties, or a wet t-shirt with no bra. And from there, I can see circumstance, or impulse, bad judgment or a push leading to full nudity or live performance. More so if its out of town. If she and Lester end up on a weekend getaway to Vegas or Mexico or something, you won't believe how far she'll go.

Darrow

2025-02-12 05:40:36 +0000 UTC

Yea hard guy to get a handle on as to what additional plans he has for her. Be a shame to waste that good pussy just on him. Also be a shame to knock her up and put her out of service. Guess he could do her ass. Lot of explaining for her to do around town should he knock her up. So much potential wasted. That happens ill be ready for the neighborhood and Bert & Clara.

Earl0849

2025-02-12 02:05:45 +0000 UTC

But in this chapter he watched Sarah as she walked into the IT Department in the morning and walked to his office and knocked on the door. I think he likes how she dresses at work, professional but sexy. Bottom line is that he finds her very attractive in an office setting, also remember his comments about how everyone looks at her ass.

Rjh200m

2025-02-12 01:48:27 +0000 UTC

I thought he wanted her to dress more like a slut at office. Did he not all but destroy her wedding dress? Like you said she has excepted his filthy room. Yes just trying to keep conversation gone till 27 comes out.

Earl0849

2025-02-11 21:56:24 +0000 UTC

There is no subject we will not discuss! Lester may have her so busy that she may not have any time to clean up. He may not let her clean up as you say. Another breaking down of her current way of life. But while Lester dresses like a slob in public, he will want Sarah looking hot and sexy in the workplace, he really likes the way she dresses.

Rjh200m

2025-02-11 21:28:39 +0000 UTC

Yes, I agree but I don't think she will change much about him while he continues to change everything about her. Could see her just leaving her dirty panties just laying on floor for days and maybe slacking off on keeping kids in good order.

Earl0849

2025-02-11 19:43:57 +0000 UTC

Yes, she likes looking good in public and will try to move Lester somewhat on this, But I think she would gravitate toward his style of living, but she would try to tidy up every now and then. The messy state of his room turns her on now, she associates the look and smell of it with Lester, all part of the package now.

Rjh200m

2025-02-11 19:34:11 +0000 UTC

So, you think she may digress around the home but try to keep up an image in public?

Earl0849

2025-02-11 19:25:09 +0000 UTC

One thing is for certain- she has taken to the taste of Cheetos on Lester’s fingers. Darrow, very Interesting point about Sarah “picking up on” Dan’s kink. If anything, I think that if Sarah and Lester become a couple openly, she will try to upgrade his wardrobe. I think he would be amenable just a little bit. In a previous chapter, Sarah seemed to be more comfortable with the unkept state of Lester’s room in the apartment…..but it seemed like she was more turned on by it because she associated it with Lester’s overall attitude.

Rjh200m

2025-02-11 18:47:26 +0000 UTC

Will she become like Lester in how she dresses and her hygiene?

Earl0849

2025-02-11 17:58:40 +0000 UTC

I think that's originally Dan's kink. He was an insecure man child, and he liked to fantasize about degrading her with men inferior to him. In her love and in sexually catering to him, she picked up on it - it was a pathway to playing. Of course, Lester made it very very rewarding, for her. And everyone has a submissive streak.

Darrow

2025-02-11 17:41:09 +0000 UTC

I,m thinking over time she would become just like him. Sloppy unkempt trash laying around home.

Earl0849

2025-02-11 16:50:27 +0000 UTC

Part of her kink is that the men she is submitting to are beneath her.

Steve

2025-02-11 15:06:17 +0000 UTC

I was wondering now that Sarh & Lester spend so much time together if she would make an effort to clean him up? Perhaps buy him some new underwear some slacks & shirts. Maybe she is into the smell and unkept pig Lester. Could she become like him and start to let herself go? Lose her hygiene? Otis presented as not to clean. As Sarah falls does she lose her class and dignity?

Earl0849

2025-02-11 14:39:02 +0000 UTC

Mark, She is going to get caught. He'll to pay.

Earl0849

2025-02-11 14:21:40 +0000 UTC

Sarah wakes up after a blissful night with Lester. She feels his wonderful cock resting against her butt. Even soft, she loves having his cock touching her. She is so glad her parents are taking care of the girls for the rest of the week. Now, Lester has free reign throughout her house and to use her body whenever and however he wishes. She smiles as she recalls Dan's silly rule about Lester not being allowed in the house. Oopsy, another of her weak, pathetic husband's rules by the wayside. She decided to wake up her man the way he liked to be awoken. She slipped his soft cock into her mouth and ran her tongue around it until it started to harden. Mmmm, perfection. "That's my good girl," she heard Lester say approvingly with a chuckle. Sarah took the cock out of her mouth just long enough to say, "Morning, Daddy. I love you. "

Mark Albright

2025-02-11 13:24:01 +0000 UTC

Meanwhile…at the very same exact time in Middleton…. Lester’s cock is deep inside Sarah’s pussy as she screams his name… …and her only thoughts of Dan are the ones that Lester has put in her head about him being pathetic and unable to take care of her inside or outside of the bedroom…

Rjh200m

2025-02-11 12:05:13 +0000 UTC

I just got an update on Dan…. He is sitting on the couch in the apartment — the very spot where Lester fucked Sarah from behind as she told Dan to pull out his pathetic dick. Dan has had a couple of beers and finally realizes the absurdity of him being in the apartment alone while Lester and Sarah are in Middleton. At first he panicked, but then a feeling of calm came over him because he also realized that Sarah has not called him asking for approval to have sex with Lester, per their agreement. He breathes a huge sigh of relief knowing that nothing is going on between Lester and Sarah in Middleton. But, he feels he should try to make it back to Middleton this weekend, schedule permitting, to have a long talk with Sarah about her night in the hotel with Lester and Jesse. And to tell her that they need to plan better so that things don’t get out of control again and that Lester knows that he and Sarah determine what happens, not Lester. And he also wants to fill Sarah in on some information he has on Lester that is very relevant to her job as the hospital administrator. With these comforting thoughts, Dan headed to his bedroom to get a well deserved night of sleep.

Rjh200m

2025-02-11 03:43:00 +0000 UTC

I think some kind of smoking interaction (cigarettes , weed) between Otis and Sarah would be sexy

Gmn

2025-02-10 10:46:32 +0000 UTC

Ah Mark,you see I don’t have a writer’s eye like you! No, that wasn’t the obvious one to me. Sarah rang Max to set up a meeting with him so she could find out how much he knew. He resisted this meeting and it didn’t take place. The obvious sex scene would have been Sarah offering her “services” to Max in return for his silence. I know I have a devious mind.

Royston smith

2025-02-09 22:52:09 +0000 UTC

Well-written, Sigma. The "obvious" finale to me was Sarah's sister in bed with Lester.

Mark Albright

2025-02-09 21:57:42 +0000 UTC

In my defense, 1. The early chapters are so long ago I admit I forgot that detail 2. Because the children are there is why Sarah blew up, besides, the grandparents behavior in front of the children wasn't admirable either. 3. I can't write sex like Don, but I'd like to know what the "obvious" one was. Obviously I missed it. Sincerely,

Sigma

2025-02-09 21:46:21 +0000 UTC

While I do not pretend to know if writers communicate with each other it would seem in this case they did. What I took from the story other then the obvious was that the parents have a lot of pride and our probably well know in the community. The mother showed a feisty side in her use of language. The father just a prick. Wish full thinking on my part but perfect for old Lester to take down and use anyway he wants with the aid of his slutty assistant Sarah.

Earl0849

2025-02-09 21:28:06 +0000 UTC

Interesting, Earl! Thank you for the recommendation, my friend. I went away and read it and it’s a well written, well imagined take on the consequences that might play out if what Sarah and Dan have been doing with and through Lester, ever came out. Especially if Sarah’s parent’s ever discovered the truth. I won’t divulge anymore as others may wish to read it(it’s free chaps!!). My only criticisms of the story are 1) its inaccurate as regards Sarah’s past sexual proclivities at high school and college. It’s clear from the early chapters of TA she had only had 2 boyfriends before Dan and certainly wasn’t a “slut” as she is portrayed in this story. In fact her innocent wife status was heavily emphasised by Don. 2) There is an explicit sexually based conversation around the family dinner table where the imagined Sister of Sarah( Anna) and her boyfriend (Max) make it clear they know what has been going on with Sarah and Lester. Their Daughters are at the same dinner table. This just wouldn’t have happened. Someone would have referenced their innocence and closed the conversation down, or removed them from the room. It’s almost as if the author forgot they were there. 3) There is only one sex scene and it’s vanilla. It seems like it’s been added as an afterthought. Almost like this sort of story has to have a sex scene. It’s also the wrong sex scene, the obvious one was ignored by the author. If you read it guys you will know what I mean. It’s been posted by Sigma. Is this our very own Sigma who sometimes comments on here? Overall, I was impressed, but I think an opportunity was missed. Unless you intend to write a sequel, Sigma?

Royston smith

2025-02-09 19:22:35 +0000 UTC

Reyston, read toxic family, its new saw it just today on Lit. Don has approved this story. Its under new stories.

Earl0849

2025-02-09 17:31:03 +0000 UTC

Royston, Don't touch the stuff myself so can,t help you. But I must say that some dance around the obvious when it comes to Sarah and any attempt to suggest she is a goddess and to continue to cast blame on others for what she has become. Belittling my suggestion that Lester may make an attempt on the family has no effect on me as I don't write the story and have no effect on its outcome. But it's a better story then boring Jesse and his crush on Sarah. To each there own Royston.

Earl0849

2025-02-09 17:22:25 +0000 UTC

Omg/OMG! Lester fuck me, fuck me! Don’t stop. Please! Earl I need more weed man. Where is my fucking ganja?This cock is just too much! Sarah told me all about you, Lester, but I thought she was doing her imaginary friend stuff like when she was a little girl. Omg/OMG he is huge, Sarah. How did you take it all? He’s splitting me in two. Earl, I am so glad you put this idea in Don’s head. What’s that Earl? He is going to fuck me up the ass next ! Oh, yes please!! I’ll need more weed though, darling. Oh shit! Quick Lester out the back door. Sarah’s Dad’s here, honey. Yes, you can have my ass next time.

Royston smith

2025-02-09 15:53:05 +0000 UTC

I is smoking ganja man. I is hoping you will lend me your batch, man, so I can watch Lester fuck Sarah’s mother’s punani.

Royston smith

2025-02-09 15:26:26 +0000 UTC

I think Sarah is going to throw her adult family under the bus and enjoy every minute of it

Earl0849

2025-02-09 14:47:02 +0000 UTC

Darrow, you are absolutely right on your analysis of Sarah and society, but I fear you're fighting a losing battle on this site. Most of the readers here simply see Sarah as a slut who needs to be punished. But continue to tilt at windmills and try to enlighten them. I'm with you, Don Quixote.

Mark Albright

2025-02-09 14:45:50 +0000 UTC

Darrow - then there needs to be an intervention, her husband needs to do something drastic, break the connection between her and Lester, she probably will resist but he has to persevere, even if it means exposing their activities. She needs to get away from Lester bottom line, who will make this happen? Again I think if not Dan, then Jesse is a possibility.

Rjh200m

2025-02-09 14:29:36 +0000 UTC

After reading Toxic Family on LIT. I am convinced that Lester will have no problem controlling and corrupting the family should it come to that. The word is family pride. The family will do everything to protect this. Yes, Lester could very well fuck the mother and Cock old the father.

Earl0849

2025-02-09 14:24:37 +0000 UTC

I think you missed my point, which is that social repression, and narrowmindedness, male hostility to female sexuality, can result in sexuality being expressed in strange ways. If sex is transgressive in the first place, then transgressive acts which are degrading, can become sexy in the right circumstances. Is there repression and narrowmindedness and male hostility? Look at all the times on these comments, including yours, where basically Sarah is called a whore. Your comment about addiction to destructive forms isn't really informed by anything more than moralizing judgment. I don't know that I'd agree entirely, but it can be argued that all addiction is self destructive, by definition. But that's not the point. I find it hard to judge Sarah for her addiction given that the two men in her life have worked so very hard to get her addicted. Imagine if your two best friends were crackheads and insisted on getting you high on crack every time you saw one of them. In Lester's case, particularly, we've seen he's dedicated to crossing every boundary and 'deconstructing' her life and marriage. The problem is not Sarah's sex or sexuality. The problem is that she's the unwitting victim of a highly manipulative sociopath. It's not really a moral flaw. Consider the current President of the United States, a proven rapist, still managed to get elected by a majority. Manipulative sociopaths are very skilled at getting into things, and 'they should have known better' is not much of an argument. This is actually the real problem - not that Sarah enjoys sex, or that she enjoys degrading sex. Her life isn't at risk of being destroyed because she loved getting her face slapped sensuously by a fat cock. It's because there's a highly manipulative sociopath who is manipulating her sexually, emotionally and financially. The argument that she should just find another lover, or series of lovers to satisfy her, falls apart because she's not setting the agenda. The highly manipulative sociopath is. The more influence and control he has, the more influence and control he takes. The problem is not Sarah's addiction to Lester's cock. That's a symptom. The problem is Lester.

Darrow

2025-02-09 14:02:21 +0000 UTC

RJ, I think she has arrived. Also check out Literotica. New stories, story about TA. Just read it.

Earl0849

2025-02-09 13:58:16 +0000 UTC

Earl - you may enjoy this comment I posted many chapters ago…looking a few years in advance when Sarah and Lester are together……. ….Lester and Sarah entered the elementary school for the emergency meeting with Lester, Jr.’s guidance counselor. The counselor appeared to be a few years younger than Sarah, dressed professionally with a well-toned body, it was clear she took pride in her appearance. “ “I’m afraid that I have some very concerning information about your son,” she said. “He has been watching porn on his cell phone and he inappropriately touched one of his female classmates.” Upon hearing this, Lester broke into a wide shit-eating grin. “This is a very serious situation, Sir”, the counselor stated, “and we will need to meet again tomorrow to discuss how to move forward.” The counselor was taken aback by Lester’s reaction, and she was clearly unnerved by the intense way he looked at her, as if he was almost looking into her soul. And as Lester and Sarah rose to leave, the counselor could not help but notice the large bulge in Lester’s pants. She was shocked at how evident it was just across the desk from her. Both Lester and Sarah noticed the counselor’s reaction. Back in the car, as Sarah dropped to her knees between Lester’s legs and pulled his cock out, she said “I think she will be so much fun, baby”. Lester just smiled, anticipating what could happen with the hot counselor and how much Sarah has progressed in her subservience.

Rjh200m

2025-02-09 13:40:47 +0000 UTC

Daniel, precisely you nailed it. She is becoming a mimic of Lester. Nobody is safe if they get in the way of these Two.

Earl0849

2025-02-09 13:01:09 +0000 UTC

Daniel - agree with your points on Sarah. Lester says he wants to further attack the Williams’ finances. This likely means Sarah’s salary, having it significantly reduced since she has been demoted. If this happens, Sarah and Dan could lose their house and the very thing that Sarah thanked Lester for - keeping a roof over her kids heads - goes away. But of course, Lester will orchestrate it so that Mary looks like the bad guy and he will step in to offer Sarah money to cover the mortgage. But Sarah slips further and further into Lester’s clutches. What is a possible out from this cycle of destruction if Dan remains paralyzed and ineffective? Possibly Jesse. He would do anything for Sarah and if I remember correctly his family is wealthy. He could free Sarah and Dan from Lester’s financial blackmail. This does not mean all becomes well between Sarah and Dan, just that they are no longer subject to Lester’s financial control. All the videos still exist for Lester to leverage, however. Some other solution will be needed to counter these. But if this could happen, then Sarah could be free of Lester and then do everything she wants without the destruction part, unless, as you say, she actually has an addition in which she cannot avoid her own deatruction.

Rjh200m

2025-02-09 12:53:47 +0000 UTC

Sarah's problem isn't that she's a woman who loves sex and is open to experimentation. To me, that's a very positive thing about her. Sarah's problem is that her love of sex and Sarah's inability to resist Lester's cock at this point is starting to cause very big problems in all other aspects of her life - jeopardizing her marriage and relationship with her husband, the safety of her children, her career. All of these are clearly important things to her, but she's risked all of them time after time because of Lester. All she needs to do to turn her love of sex in a more positive direction is to literally realize the risks Lester poses to her and change him to other sex partners. Dan, who initiated their cuckold fetish himself, is unlikely to mind, and the rest of her life will immediately improve. The other thing is that it may turn out, and there are already enough hints of this within the story, that Sarah doesn't just like sex, but the destructive form of it that Lester provides her with all the risks that only turn her on more. In that case it's already more like an alcohol or drug addiction. And pretending that the problem is only that society judges her for it is extremely naive, because this kind of addiction is self-destructive in itself.

Daniel

2025-02-09 10:57:54 +0000 UTC

Royston, what are you smoking today?

Earl0849

2025-02-09 10:50:47 +0000 UTC

Darrow, you are so right. Sarah has broken the chains of her sexual repression and is embracing her “new life” walking in the sunlit uplands of her burgeoning sexuality. Dan can’t satisfy her anymore. She has outgrown him. Lester provides a route into a type of sexual gratification she didn’t know existed. Now she has tasted that fruit there will be no going back. And why should she? Why shouldn’t she enjoy the new experiences Lester can provide her with. I am cheering her on all the way. She is not a whore she is a sex goddess. I think we should all bow down and worship her femininity. Hail Sarah!!

Royston smith

2025-02-09 09:42:57 +0000 UTC

TD40 - It's also sensual, and fun, and really hot if it's done right. I mean, if some asshole just smacks you with it, it's not fun. It's just stupid and nasty. If it's done slowly, protracted, sensually, and it builds up steadily.... fuck its hot.

Darrow

2025-02-08 20:51:44 +0000 UTC

We live in a repressive society, where we are not supposed to feel pleasure or desire, except in very narrow, socially mediate ways. A woman who enjoys sex is denounced as a slut and a whore, unless she does it carefully, only with one man, and only in accepted and acceptable ways, and even then, not too much. If she's extremely passionate and sexual with that one man, she's not respected for it or with it. Instead, she's just an acceptable nympho, and the man, her owner, is respected for being the recipient of her sluttishness. Look at this story, and the comments thread. There's a very vocal contingent that automatically denounces Sarah as a giant whore, every single chapter. No exceptions. Does it matter that her husband threw her at Lester again and again and again? Nope. Does it matter that her husband is so invested in having her fuck a fat, ugly balding guy, that his only objection is that he doesn't control it enough and doesn't get to watch it? Nope. Does it matter he whored her out to Byron? Nope. Does it matter that Lester is a hyper-manipulative sociopath out to get her, whose path is contually paved by her husband. Nope. None of that matters. Sarah is the giant fucking whore of the story, she's the one wrecking her marriage, abandoning her children, throwing her life away for sex. Why? Because Don Silver dares to write her enjoying sex. Even worse, he dares to write her wanting it, demanding it, taking part in it. Now listen certain guys, if you feel I'm singling you out, don't worry. I'm not. I'm just making the point that we live in an extremely judgmental and repressive society that makes us condemn any kind of female sexuality or sexual desire, except under narrow circumstances. Some of us adopt it and embrace it. Women are stuck with it every day of their lives. Hell, men are stuck with it. It's repression. Now, here's the thing, if we accept and internalize that repression, that any kind of sex is dirty and degrading, except with permission, then people, including women, are trained to equate degradation with pleasure, to accept breaking the rules with excitement, even with freedom, with sex and sensuality. I know someone who had facials, who was pissed on, and pissed on someone, who had their face slowly slapped with a big cock, who did risky sex, sex with strangers, in bathroom stalls, on a fire escape, who got spat on, and spat, who got tied up in a very compromising position and had strangers come in to finger her, who was blinfolded, who wasa the recipient for dirty talk, who dressed like a prostitute and waited on a streetcorner and even talked to potential johns as foreplay for a boyfriend, had hair pulled, or throat seized, who did all sorts of things that were a really degrading... .... and loved it. Not any part that hurt, that sucked. Not gagging for more than a second, that wasn't fun. But the psychological aspect, the escape from repression, the sense of transgression, of breaking out, of escaping the restrictions of acceptable and just reveling in it. That's powerful intense stuff. I can understand Sarah, and her embrace of this.

Darrow

2025-02-08 20:45:34 +0000 UTC

Dude are you okay?

KB

2025-02-08 19:24:25 +0000 UTC

You don't think getting a c*ck slapped all over your face is degrading? Even if she enjoys it and it's obviously consensual it is still degrading.

TD40

2025-02-08 18:12:38 +0000 UTC

I have a question about the whole “degrading” issue….if we go back to the first few chapters, when Lester came on Sarah’s tits, face, etc., the first time. Sarah seemed to feel degraded and some shame, but she also felt excited. Now anything Lester does to her, she welcomes. From her perspective, I don’t think there was anything degrading about the whole Otis encounter. So if you embrace something, it doesn’t seem to be degrading anymore. From whose perspective is it degrading?

Rjh200m

2025-02-08 18:02:08 +0000 UTC

We've already seen her flash on a bukkake fantasy.

Darrow

2025-02-08 15:59:08 +0000 UTC

I love that Sarah has started to love being degraded (Otis slapping his cock on her face and her moaning in return confirmed it). It opens up so so many doors, especially with Lester's dubious ass. I love beautiful women getting degraded. I hope Lester starts dressing her, teaching her her place and doing things that would humiliate the old Sarah. I think she would be into a bukkake, golden shower, blowbang, and I hope some bdsm.

TD40

2025-02-08 04:27:17 +0000 UTC

Ode to Jake and Tim. Jake and Tim, it has a ring Perhaps In another life each would sing Each other’s praises. Perhaps in that other world continued dialogue Could bring For Jake and Tim Reconciliation? But perhaps not.

Royston smith

2025-02-07 12:44:41 +0000 UTC

Ok you peeps, let us have some balance on here. Sarah is entitled to some fun and Dan is entitled to get things wrong at times.None of us are perfect. Ok, ok, I know, you are correct, Dan should have had a password on his phone. Sarah should show more control over her desires. But taking that particular apartment. with that particular roommate (with sooo big a cock and such a good line in BO) was just a random event no-one could have foreseen. Also, guys was it Dan’s fault he got made redundant? No, he was yet another victim of the impersonal forces of rampant global capitalism. Was it Dan’s fault that Lester is the modern day embodiment of Nicolo Machiavelli? Or Jesse the stalker extraordinaire? A resounding no is my answer! Was it Sarah’s fault that she got passed over for CEO? No, just another example of corporate misogynism showing its ugly face yet again. And let’s meet accusations of Sarah being a cock hungry whore head on. She is just enjoying herself guys! And she is just doing what her Daddy is telling her to do. Whats so wrong in that? Come on, lighten up, don’t be so judgemental. Let’s restore balance to the silversphere. Let’s practice mindfulness together, close our eyes and study our shakras. Deep breaths, deep breaths. You can do it. Isn’t that better now? Order has been re-established in the silververse! Until Lester invokes order 66…..

Royston smith

2025-02-07 11:41:11 +0000 UTC

Royston - Sarah would use her sexual wiles to control Richard and the Board of the hospital so that she becomes the CEO as Richard is cast aside…then she can have other fun…she has learned well from Lester!

Rjh200m

2025-02-07 11:34:58 +0000 UTC

Jake, the wisdom falleth from your pen like gone off Salami. Sarah is why I get up-in the morning, she is my alpha and omega, the gin in my Vermouth, the modern day Norma jean, the Cleopatra of our day. But most of all she has tits and ass to die for! What the fucks wrong with that Jakie??!!

Royston smith

2025-02-07 10:57:43 +0000 UTC

RJ you had me going there, until the end… Richard? Really…? Now a resurrected Lester I could go with. The heroes always return from the dead in any story, why should this be any different. Let’s have the 2nd coming of Lester, and the third and the fourth…..

Royston smith

2025-02-07 10:54:37 +0000 UTC

Big D, the wisdom falleth from your pen like nectar. Sarah is why I get up-in the morning, she is my alpha and omega, the gin in my Vermouth, the modern day Norma jean, the Cleopatra of our day. But most of all she has tits and ass to die for!

Royston smith

2025-02-07 10:49:44 +0000 UTC

As long as it's just among us, I had Sarah and Clara at the same time. OK, mostly I just watched but it was still fun.

Mark Albright

2025-02-06 22:35:04 +0000 UTC

You guys...

Terminal Itch

2025-02-06 19:52:04 +0000 UTC

This happens to me like twice a week!

Chris K

2025-02-06 04:45:59 +0000 UTC

Earl - that is very modest of you saying you couldn’t handle Sarah. I, however, would light her up. I would put Lester to shame, make him look like a wimp. Sarah would be moaning my name, calling me Daddy, wondering how she settled for Lester’s pathetic cock. I would bring her to heights of sexual pleasure that would shake her to her core. Windows would shatter from her screams of ecstasy. She would literally pass out from not breathing because of the length and intensity of her orgasms. She would make a mold of my dick, put it on her dresser, and pray to it every night. She would dump all of her birth control pills in the trash and beg me to put a baby in her, triplets to start with. Oh well…..a man can dream, can’t he?

Rjh200m

2025-02-06 03:00:07 +0000 UTC

You smell a lot of cock on women's breath? If this is a thing for you, either you're hanging out with a very distinctive crowd of women, or you may have some issues.

Darrow

2025-02-05 05:27:46 +0000 UTC

"f they hate the genre so much, why are they still paying? " LOL -- scroll to the comment section of virtually any 'cheating-wife/cuckold' story on Literotica and it's practically a certainty there will be posts from people who've read every chapter of the story and then taken to commenting about how repugnant and disgusting, and repulsive the story, and all of the characters, and the author, and all of the people who read+enjoy it are... I just laugh, attribute it to some form of projection and unaccomodated self-revulsion, but whatever the reasons are in the end, it happens far too commonly to not be a thing! 🤷‍♀️😳😄

Arc

2025-02-04 21:52:05 +0000 UTC

Jake, you do have a point. We all know but maybe chose to forget that Lester in his desire to take over both Sarah & Dan did hack into the hospital data system. Now we all know in the real world some free loader like Lester would not be called into fix the system just on the say so of Sarah. But this isn't real world, so I agree Sarah has done more to Damage her family then Dan and I believe if Lester had not come along Sarah and yes Dan would be traveling in some other dark corner. Sarah has the ability and the addiction to bring more pain and destruction down on her family and to continue to see her as a good person is somewhat of an over statement.

Earl0849

2025-02-04 20:00:41 +0000 UTC

Isn't it great!

Darrow

2025-02-04 19:10:36 +0000 UTC

Exactly. I want it to end up with a dark ending

KB

2025-02-04 18:36:57 +0000 UTC

She is his slut. she will do anything he tells her to do no matter what. She will go down any dark path he tells her to go. aka going to the basement to suck off the janitor. He told her to do it and she did what he told her to do.

KB

2025-02-04 18:35:43 +0000 UTC

tim - Immature internet trolls are just one of those things. Go figure. They're annoying. Kind of stupid. But ultimately, they're irrelevant tune them out.

Darrow

2025-02-04 16:56:27 +0000 UTC

Listen Timmy, since you absolutely are so stuck on my reasons for reading this.... I stumbled on this book via amazon looking for other genres. I like stories where I see the unjust get served with justice... wrongs corrected and the wicked and stupid punished... and yes the sex scenes in the book are really pretty good. However, like you pointed out several times... i have read 26 chapters and I want to see if Lester gets justice served to him and Dan corrects the debacle he has gotten himself into. The cuckold stuff... thats not really my thing; not that i am saying there is anything wrong with people who it IS their thing. You like it, no problem, knock yourself out... i think cucking, to be honest, is a little sad... just my opinion. but there is more in this book than just cuckolding; like i said before... Don writes some pretty steamy scenes and now i'm so vested in the time i put in reading these chapters... i want to see who wins.

Jake4444

2025-02-04 15:35:33 +0000 UTC

🥺😢 timmy! don’t. Be. So. Mean. 😂

Jake4444

2025-02-04 15:13:22 +0000 UTC

I to enjoy Sarah. She would be welcome in my bed at anytime. But in the words of the great Clint Eastwood " A MAN HAS TO KNOW HIS LIMITATIONS " I don't think I would be up to the task at hand.

Earl0849

2025-02-04 13:50:34 +0000 UTC

Im fine with perspectives, hating one character over the other, etc. But if you insult the reader base then you're fair game imo. Its 26 chapters in. If they hate the genre so much, why are they still paying? A question they'll never answer lol

tim

2025-02-04 13:45:54 +0000 UTC

Oh Jake, you wouldn't be interested in her. She's past puberty 😬 But anyways, I'll leave you alone now like your Mom clearly did. Enjoy paying for the rest of the chapters and leaving grade school level come backs in the comments. Those kids you diddle are really churnin em out for you. Between you and them, you probably have plenty of tears lube 😭

tim

2025-02-04 13:42:06 +0000 UTC

Rjh200m - apologies. Sarcasm is sometimes hard to detect. I agree, I'd like to see Dan get out from the corner he's been put in and actually do something.

Darrow

2025-02-04 13:37:50 +0000 UTC

I agree that verbal abuse and character assassination is uncalled for, and I hope that I don't do do that. I try to disagree without being abusive or making it personal. There's room for all sorts of perspectives, even if we disagree. Clearly some of your thoughts on directions don't work for me, but I hope that you don't see that as an attack. I'm just not into it. Equally, you're entitled to not see things my way. As you've said, you see Sarah's fall as entirely her fault. For myself I see her pushed by her husband who is a completely willing cuckold, wants to see her degraded, and is into it, and seduced by a brilliant sociopath. Between those two, she didn't have much of a chance. She enjoyed it yes. And she enjoyed it more and more, and let it change her, yes. She's fallen into the trap. So she has her own share of fault. It's just not all her fault. I think we agree that she has much potential to sink lower. That's why we read. Some read because they despise her. Me, I like her, and that's why her fall is interesting. I'm not sure I'd be engaged by the fall of someone I didn't care about or disliked.

Darrow

2025-02-04 13:35:06 +0000 UTC

People this is a story of fiction. It goes the way the author wants to take it. We all have opinions and ideas of how we think it should go and we express those in our posts. Do I agree with all that I read? I do not. Do the readers agree with me? They surely do not. Having said that if someone does not agree with what I post I am not motivated to assassinate their character or verbally abuse them. I enjoy reading each and everyone of your post as and look forward to reading many more in the future and Darrow it's all Sarah's fault she has crossed the line she is a slut and I feel has much potential to sink lower.

Earl0849

2025-02-04 12:31:53 +0000 UTC

Darrow - I’m with you on the assessment of Dan, I was kidding around on the “character flaws” and cure….the character of Dan is all over the place when it comes to responding to Lester and I hope he emerges from the apartment with some focus and a plan. This would help the story.

Rjh200m

2025-02-04 11:37:36 +0000 UTC

For all of Dan's obvious flaws, which have been described many times already by various commentators, I don't see the point in excusing Sarah. She has already turned into a lying cheating wife. She will soon completely destroy her career for Lester's cock. And she's already seriously risked her family several times by fucking near the kids. Dan, by the way, unlike Sarah, is still able to draw that line that the kids should be out of it. And she's much less rational than Dan at this point, because she can't see a serious threat in a man who at the snap of a finger has gone from nerd to her boss If you think of Sarah and Dan's corruption as a race, Dan was definitely ahead in the beginning, but closer to the last chapters Sarah has picked up a good pace and is very much overtaking him. And if it's really fair to say that Dan's fault in starting all these events is obvious, then Sarah's shortsightedness, irresponsibility and susceptibility to addictions obviously played a much bigger role in the development and culmination of all the family problems

Daniel

2025-02-04 07:47:58 +0000 UTC

Rjh200m - I'm not sure I buy that these are minor character flaws. Pimping your wife out to a guy like Byron is a major flaw. I'm not sure a laughing idiot's thread is the right place to discuss it, but I think Dan actually manifests some major personality flaws which are deep and destructive. At the very least, I think I can identify three obvious ones: 1) He's consistently sloppy and inattentive. He doesn't think systematically, he doesn't seem to bother with details, he just kind of sails along. This has come up several times, and it's blown up in his face repeatedly. 2) He's got very poor impulse control, and repeatedly, he loses his temper or goes for short term emotional payoffs or satisfaction, without really thinking things through or thinking about consequences. Again, this has blown up on him again and again, triggering disasters, or making enemies unnecessarily. 3) He's entitled and self absorbed, continually looking down on others. I think that's part of his inability to cope with Lester, he can't believe or accept Lester is a challenge on any front. But there are other examples, look at his dismissal of the DnD group. Or his interpersonal handlings, particularly of Jesse and Byron - he fucked both of those up massively. Although it's not a character flaw, he's definitely not as smart as he thinks he is. Within his area of specialty, he's probably highly competent. But beyond that, he's Dunning Kruger. All these traits show up consistently, there's little sign of learning or adapting, and they frequently drag him down and worsen situations. Every now and then he shows signs of getting his act together, showing backbone. But then he blows it, or pisses it away.

Darrow

2025-02-04 06:32:19 +0000 UTC

Hahaha… ok. sure, if you say so. 😏

Jake4444

2025-02-04 06:23:09 +0000 UTC

She was supporting her whole family all along. Every step of the way. Dan was basically being a fuck up and a loser every step of the way.

Darrow

2025-02-04 06:18:58 +0000 UTC

Darrow - regarding your assessment of Dan, those are all minor character flaws which he can immediately remedy if he stops jerking off all of the time to Sarah and Lester…. No more jerking off means he will have more time to catch up on emails and think more clearly. This will allow him to sharpen his business focus, win more clients and start bringing in the cash. Then he can focus like a laser on “Operation No More Lester”, get his ass back to Middleton, win back his wife and take care of his family.

Rjh200m

2025-02-04 05:37:55 +0000 UTC

Tim, I’ll tell ya what… since you’re so pro cucky… why don’t you send your wife/girlfriend my way… i’ll teach your old lady a few tricks for ya 😝

Jake4444

2025-02-04 05:37:20 +0000 UTC

Tim, Jake - please, give it a break…..or as they say, take it off line

Rjh200m

2025-02-04 05:29:25 +0000 UTC

Oh wow you went from homophobic to pedo? Bold choice. Really hammers home that youre not the weird one lol

tim

2025-02-04 05:08:33 +0000 UTC

Tim, Awwwe sweet heart. Did it take you that long to come up with all that lol. I’m proud of you.., wasn’t a single mention of jerking off in that one. 😆 thats growth little peanut! - oops i spoke too soon. thats ok. maybe next time lol

Jake4444

2025-02-04 04:28:12 +0000 UTC

Dude its okay. You like cuck stories and you hate yourself for it. You lash out in the comments to feel better as you stroke yourself. We all know it. Theres lots of you pretending like you walked into a gay bar by accident. Its 26 chapters in. Youre not fooling anyone hahahaha. Now say something vaguely homophobic so you can feel like you got the one up on me. Go ahead... Do it before the next month's payment goes through lmao

tim

2025-02-04 04:18:53 +0000 UTC

Darrow - Hahaha… that is too funny! Poor Sarah, she did all this to fulfill her husband’s fantasy and now she has to support her whole family. What a crock of shit! What story are you reading lol. This was Sarah’s show from the moment she saw Lesters cock in the kitchen! She has lied and omitted from Dan from the start… tantamount to cheating. She has fucked her way out of a career, a husband and coming soon home and family. All with a fat incell Cheeto eating, D&D playing retard that couldn’t get laid in a two dollar whore house. This human cum dumpster has destroyed her entire life for a bit of dick… and DAN is the loser ? 😂 LMAO 👌🏻

Jake4444

2025-02-04 04:10:46 +0000 UTC

Tim- The difference is… i’m not so concerned with everyone else’s jerking as you are 😂

Jake4444

2025-02-04 03:51:40 +0000 UTC

Well, let's be fair here. Dan couldn't keep a job, was unemployed for two years, and has to travel to another city to find work at a second rate firm. While at that second rate firm, he is half assed and has no concept of security, leaving his phone without a security lock. Eventually, for personal reasons, he fabricates an email from another employee (a termination offense) an creates a big shitstorm that loses the firm its biggest client (another termination offense). Because of the damage he did to the firm, he and everyone else has to take a pay cut and work harder to compensate for his screw up (which would have gotten him fired and blackballed immediately if it is ever discovered). It's at this point that he decides to work on his 'start up' - which he does by starting out with a major client dropping in his lap - The Lincoln Group, and him telling them to go fuck off. He then runs his start up the same half assed way he does everything. But somehow manages to get a few clients on the side. By the way, that side hustle is probably a violation of the terms of his employment and would get him fired and possibly blackballed and sued the minute they find out. But let's overlook that. Once again, a major client, the Lincoln Group comes calling through Jesse. And once again, he tells them to fuck off. Finally, the Lincoln Group, through Jesse, through his day employer, hires him, taking away any ability for him to say fuck off, erasing anything resembling leverage, and ensuring that he will have all the work and responsibilities, but for peanuts. Good thinking Dan, you set it up in the worst possible way. Dan is doing so well at his job and his start up, that he can't even pay his share of the rent and is forced to pimp out his wife on dates. Meanwhile, his wife was paying the mortgage on the house, paying all the household expenses, paying for the children, looking after all the bills, plus doing all the child care, and travelling to Chicago on her own dime to give him booty calls. You kind of see why and how people think Dan is a loser. As for the sex side, it was Dan that had the cuck fantasy for years. He made it part of their fantasy sex life. Dan pushed her at Lester again and again, telling her to suck Lester's cock and show off her body. Once Lester starts fucking her, all he wants to do is let her fuck so he can watch. Dan's only problem, ever, is that Lester kept leaving him out while he fucked Sarah. That's Dan's only thing. He's completely okay with Lester fucking Sarah, as long as its in front of him, or she at least asks permission. He's completely okay with her sucking Vernon's cock, as long as he can jerk off to it. He's definitely okay with her going on dates and fucking Lester if he can catch a break on the rent. He was also completely okay with Byron taking her up to his offices to fuck her while he waited down in the street. His only problems with her fucking Vernon is that she didn't give him all the juicy details, and he didn't get paid for her planting a bug when she went up to get fucked. So if Sarah's a big old whore, which I'll accept, what the fuck is Dan? Her pimp? He literally is a pimp, he pimps her out for rent money, and to Byron. And of course, there's the fact that Lester runs rings around him, makes him look like an idiot over and over, gets him beaten up, and then gets him arrested. All while plowing his wife. Again, you see why people consider Dan a loser.

Darrow

2025-02-04 02:51:12 +0000 UTC

Do you not know you're on a porn page? Lmao Everyone is jerking off

tim

2025-02-04 02:33:44 +0000 UTC

As you suggest at times there is some pretty dramatic breaks in continuity between chapters. In ch25 Dan, while drunk, pretty much works out Lester’s deception & plans to place cameras then in 26 he’s back to being clueless. Earlier there was a focus on Lester laying the groundwork for taking Sarah ass cherry then it’s not mentioned again.

LB

2025-02-04 02:18:26 +0000 UTC

It’s all for fun! Throw out different scenarios, see what people think…. only Don Silver actually has to come up with the “real” ending!

Rjh200m

2025-02-04 01:08:42 +0000 UTC

HAHAHAHAHAHA.... that's one ending i guess lol. I was thinking more along the lines of Dan destroying Sarah (taking the kids, the house, informing all her family and co-workers about her and Lester) and leaving that gutter slut for Lester to pimp out; I mean really.... who would let that used up slut back in the house?... near your children? Christ... her breath alone must smell like 22 kinds of cock. lol. repugnant. LOL. Hey... what can I say... i'm a romantic.

Jake4444

2025-02-04 01:03:45 +0000 UTC

Jake, yes that’s Lester’s plan and things are falling into place for him….but…. From the ashes of his Chicago apartment, Dan will rise….and swoop into Middleton and vanquish his enemies, including Lester, Byron, Jesse, Otis, Vernon, and Cash….and reclaim his bride… With the help of the Sentinel company, he will even free Thornhill from Lester’s blackmail. In return, Thornhill makes Sarah the chief operating officer of the hospital. Dan, feeling completely victorious, takes Sarah to dinner….. “I told you I would protect you Sarah” “Yes, Dan I’m impressed, I didn’t think you had it in you….However, there are two things I am not giving up.” “First, I’m not giving up this big rock on my finger. Why? Because I earned it…..no more piddly jewelry for me…” “Second, I’m not giving up big cocks….i love them and I need them….you may feel like Superman now, but you are no Lester in the bedroom and now that you have taken him away, he needs to be replaced…..” “And one other thing Dan…..from now on, I determine what I do, not you…..and I determine who I fuck, when I fuck, how I fuck, and where I fuck…..including you…..Lester taught me that it’s about control and I control this marriage now…Do you understand baby?” “Yes Sarah” “Great, let’s order, I am starving….by the way, I have a date tomorrow night, Richard asked me to have dinner with him to discuss changes at the hospital, I need you to watch the girls.” And they live happily ever after……

Rjh200m

2025-02-04 00:14:34 +0000 UTC

This family others have spoke of with Lester in control and Dan as nanny brings up one interesting question. How is this to succeed without the parents on board? Lester needs control of everyone or it does not work. And Sarah must cross every line. I do not see this as end of story.

Earl0849

2025-02-03 23:49:46 +0000 UTC

As a side note.... I always have to laugh at the simpletons on here that say that Dan has failed Sarah and his family, when all the man has done is work his ass off in his career while simultaneously trying to get a startup off the ground (this was the plan from the begging... was to get a better career going for dan). He might have succeeded in doing this... had he not had the most retarded, whore, cooze of a wife as his only support. I mean talk about a complete imbicile of a woman... what hot professional woman not only can't fuck her way to the top... but manages for 26 chapters to fuck her way to the bottom and right out the door of her career LOL! That is impressive stupidity. She is more damaging to her family than Dan, Lester, Jesse and Ottis all put together HAHAHA.

Jake4444

2025-02-03 22:44:46 +0000 UTC

Well we can see how this is going to end now. Lester will impregnate Sarah. Sarah will keep it since it will be the boy she always wanted, and convince (via ultimatum no doubt) Dan into taking care of it with his other two girls (in house nanny). Sarah will introduce Lester to all the kids as "Uncle Lester" so that his being around and sleeping over will be accepted by the family. And Dan and Sarah and Lester will live out their days with Lester taking over as "man of the house - Uncle Lester" and Dan in perpetual cucky-tude and Sarah gets her Sex and her In-House "Dad (male nanny) for her kids. All telegraphed from the beginning... with no surprises, twists or turns anywhere to be found here. (YAAAWWWWNNNN..... So disappointing. but at lease it will finally be over lol). Telegraphed with a nice little bow in this paragraph right here... "Further weaken the Williamses financially and impregnate the mother. The idea of walking into their home and taking Sarah upstairs while Dan attended to his daughters and his progeny played in his mind. Lester had graduated from pursuing single women who fell for being his roommate. The challenge of a married woman and manipulating things to this degree was so much sweeter."

Jake4444

2025-02-03 22:22:50 +0000 UTC

She'll introduce him as her ex since she's already told the hospital staff Lester's her fiancee. Lester will have browbeat Mary to the point where it's now ok for a boss to date his employee.

Mark Albright

2025-02-03 21:45:54 +0000 UTC

I like your dialogue, MH.

Mark Albright

2025-02-03 21:39:28 +0000 UTC

Also, it will become explicitly known at the hospital that Lester bought her the ring….and perhaps Sarah has to attend a hospital function and Dan insists on going….he will be in for quite a surprise when he sees the ring on her finger, how Lester and her interact, and how Sarah’s hospital colleagues interact with her and treat Dan….

Rjh200m

2025-02-03 21:31:40 +0000 UTC

Funny! But I really can’t see Dan going down this road, but who knows!

Rjh200m

2025-02-03 21:24:31 +0000 UTC

Dan's fixed

Michael Haase

2025-02-03 20:34:18 +0000 UTC

D: "Sorry baby, it's been to long, I just couldn't last long enough for you to cum too." S: "It's ok Dan, I enjoyed myself. I like giving you pleasure too," D: "But I want you to enjoy it too, I'll be better next time." S: "I know you will baby," D: "You're so sexy now, when we're doing it, you're so vocal, when you kept saying "harder, harder" really got me going and then when you said "Deeper" I just couldn't control myself, sorry."" S: "I told you it's OK, I don't mind." D: "You don't mind...I guess you have Lester....does he...." S: "Mmnn, I do have Lester, and yes he takes good care of me sweety." D: "So you don't mind as long as you have Lester?" S: "Dan, don't play hurt, I know the idea turns you on." D: "I guess it does...butt" S: "Butt nothing Dan, Lester takes good care of me, you know he has a bigger cock, much bigger and he last forever. I lose track of the orgasms that man can deliver. So yes, he keeps me satisfied." D: "And me...?" S: "You keep me in love and grounded." D: "So you like it "Deeper?" S: "I love it Deep, and really, Lester is the only man than can go that deep. I love Lester's cock baby, it's the best." D: "What about my cock?" S: "I love your little fellow too, he tries so hard, and now he gets so excited thinking about my boyfriend he can't control himself. It's so exciting how he blows his load just thinking about Lester and me. It makes it so enjoyable for me knowing little Dan loves it when Mommy and Daddy fuck for real." D: "I do love it when you tease me like that." S: "Oh, look at that, this little guy is stiff again. He's hard as a rock Dan. Does little Dan want Mommy to take care of him again? Maybe I should check with Daddy to see if this is ok? Oh, too late, the little guy is squirting again. Where is the Kleenex Dan?"

Michael Haase

2025-02-03 20:31:42 +0000 UTC

There are a few other cuck / ntr / hotwife tropes that may be explored. Based on this chapter and the chapter 25 I'll guess a group sex is on the cards and potentially Dan witnesses this via cameras he puts in the house. The birth control subplot does need to move forward and I think one of two things will occur. Either Sarah's BC is replaced when ones that don't work and she risks getting pregnant without her knowledge OR the fake BC has an effect on her where she stops using them knowingly. Potentially getting Dan to use protection but not Lester. Finally, I think there may be a point where Sarah calls Lester her husband. This could be done through Lester asking Sarah to roleplay as done before.

Bob James

2025-02-03 20:14:05 +0000 UTC

A reckoning between Sarah and Dan. Sarah explains to Dan her feelings for Lester, what they have done since the hotel night in Chicago, how she now happily works for Lester, her sexual liberation and how Lester has enabled it, and how she has moved on from it being their shared fantasy to it now being her and Lester’s relationship. It’s time for this discussion, Sarah has evolved so much and she needs to let Dan know. I have no idea how Dan will react. I just hope it is not his usually wishy-washy meanderings. He needs to take a stand one way or the other. And as Darrow has laid out so well, this discussion probably will cover more than just the relationship with Lester, to include finances, Dan’s business struggles and the pressure on Sarah as the family’s primary breadwinner.

Rjh200m

2025-02-03 20:05:50 +0000 UTC

Excellent point! Dan is so far behind the curve that by the time he gets cameras in his house, Lester will be living there!

Rjh200m

2025-02-03 19:56:08 +0000 UTC

Jesus ARC, you sound like a broken record.... just because you WANT IT TO BE SOME DARK NTR (dork)... doesn't mean it is. this is not some greek fucking tragedy. The truth is this... the characters have been so gutted of any real human traits and emotions or logic, it has become absurd. I know of NOBODY who would behave remotely as described in this book... and while yes, it is fiction... it helps the reader for it to be based in some relatable reality; right. None of the characters have stayed true to their core of their characters (except Lester).... they have been reduced to sad, thoughtless, blithering imbeciles with no moral compasses... and why? because some little fat man with a larger than average penis got into the wife? and all of a sudden the wife turns to a raging cum guzzling gutter whore, forsaking her husband and kids.... and the husband becomes a spineless jellyfish hen pet; also abandoning his wife and kids. SMH. #ohplease

Jake4444

2025-02-03 19:54:49 +0000 UTC

Earl - If I had to guess where Sarah’s line in the sand is? I would say no sex with Lester in the kid’s room while they are with the grandparents, and no sex with Lester in her bedroom (marital bed) with the kids in their room. But the issue is that Lester will press for all of the above. I think she will resist. Also she will not involve the parents in any way, but there is the real possibility that she and Lester are caught having sex by the parents. But that’s as far as it will go. Regarding Sarah having sex outside the house and with multiple people, everything is on the table.

Rjh200m

2025-02-03 19:53:31 +0000 UTC

In TOTAL AGREEMENT!. this thing has gone so south its ridiculously predictable... of course it would be, being that every chapter has been completely telegraphed by the previous chapters. ZERO surprises. If you want to surprise your readers.... have Lester lose. Its the only thing that would save this heap at this point.

Jake4444

2025-02-03 19:50:38 +0000 UTC

Events have moved from the time in Ch25 when Dan decided he needed to place cameras in the Middleton bedroom to this point at the end of Ch26. What’s the point for the cameras now? If anything Lester would love to know Dan is watching unbeknownst to Sarah what Lester is doing to her in their marital bed.

J Lewis

2025-02-03 16:22:34 +0000 UTC

Don said, “I am excited to get to the next chapter where some of these elements come to a head and things start to hit the fan.” There is no way to know exactly what he has in mind but the elements seem clear. Lester is continually pushing Sarah past all boundaries and is collecting video footage of it. Dan is absent and disconnected from Sarah, has no idea how far things have gone. He seems to be checking out of all aspects of his life and slipping into depression. Jesse is fully delusional about Sarah’s feelings for him and believes he needs to rescue her from Lester and Dan. And we have Otis in play now. Lester mentioned putting together a gang bang/bukkake for Sarah with a few of his friends and she was excited by it. That is a possible point of collision for all of these elements.

Steve

2025-02-03 15:25:14 +0000 UTC

Confrontation Central.

MV

2025-02-03 15:24:29 +0000 UTC

Assuming the next chapter goes somewhere, where does everybody think it goes?

Mark Albright

2025-02-03 14:55:55 +0000 UTC

Me, too.

Mark Albright

2025-02-03 13:10:35 +0000 UTC

RJ, I was wondering where is Sarah's line in the sand? Does she even know? Lester keeps pushing the line. What will she not tolerate? Will she draw the line with her parents? Does she have a line? To date in my humble opinion she has not removed anything from the table. If anything she has proven everything is still on the table and she is about to enter the fast lane to disaster. As I said b/4 she gets way to much credit and the only sense of direction she has is to a cock and that is any cock. Wave it in front of her and she has it in her mouth. She is a liar starting to fail as a parent and wife in short she has compromised her dignity and her class. She is dirty as she except,s her fucking and sucking with great enthusiasm. I say to you all there is no line she will not cross.

Earl0849

2025-02-03 12:22:00 +0000 UTC

Darrow - I think Lester already made the agreement with Thornhill when they met in his office - Lester gets to head the IT Department and Thornhill gets access to Sarah. Why else would Thornhill agree to keep Lester and allow Sarah to continue to work at the hospital? Unless Lester is already blackmailing Thornhill. Either way, I think Lester knows he won’t get any blowback from Thornhill for taking down Mary in the office meeting. Mary will be the bad cop with Sarah and Lester will be the good cop. And Leste’s next order to Sarah could be that she has to take a meeting with Thornhill and she better represent the IT Department very well. “I need Thornhill happy, Sarah”

Rjh200m

2025-02-03 11:24:05 +0000 UTC

I guess killing Lester and going to jail for it is not the worst damage control option in Dan's current situation, rationally speaking. This way he would at least interrupt Lester's game and be left alone with a corrupted Sarah, which is still better for his relationship with his wife than having to suffer the constant poisoning influence from the outside. All of this emphasizes Dan's desperate situation. As for his psychological state, I don't see any particular indicators of mental illness compared to previous chapters. Pinching himself on the bridge of his nose and not keeping up with his work is already his standard cliched image given to him by the author, so it's nothing new for him. But as some commentators have already noted above, to suspect Lester of being a manipulator and at the same time to think that nothing happens between him and Sarah in Middleton is the height of naivety even for Dan. At that point, Dan, in addition to all his other negative qualities, turns into a moron. Well, at least it's clear why it's all necessary - to create a sufficient “charge” for his future collision with reality, so let's see how Don will play it all out.

Daniel

2025-02-03 10:16:41 +0000 UTC

I've blocked him, now. I don't want to spend my life going round and round in circles. I may be retired, but I've got a life to live.😂

MV

2025-02-03 08:42:28 +0000 UTC

Trying to engage with him, MV, is pointless. Just let him rattle on and ignore him.

Mark Albright

2025-02-03 08:07:55 +0000 UTC

One last though RJ. Did you even think that Sarah father could be the person to kill off Lester? I know never mentioned not in storyline😊

Earl0849

2025-02-03 04:28:31 +0000 UTC

I would never disagree with you on violence occurring under the circumstances yes they do happen. But your cannot play at home and not risk getting caught and not just by Dan. Where we disagree is what are Lesters limitations and what are Sarah limitations. The word Deconstruction that Darrow and I speak of offers the possibility of Sarah doing anything at Lester,s command and I might add you give Sarah far to much credit as to where she may draw the line. As for storyline the story goes anywhere and anyplace the author wants to take it and not just where you or myself might want it to go.

Earl0849

2025-02-03 04:00:40 +0000 UTC

Earl - crimes of passion do happen in real life. I’m not saying it will happen in this story, but it’s conceivable given Lester’s evil actions and intentions and Dan’s temper and history with physically going after Lester. But the things you describe with regard to Sarah’s family don’t fit into the storyline. There is no basis to conclude that Sarah would ever do such things even if she does become “corrupted” by Lester.

Rjh200m

2025-02-03 02:46:56 +0000 UTC

But he wouldn’t have to worry about Lester anymore!

Rjh200m

2025-02-03 02:19:13 +0000 UTC

This comment section is both equally sad and funny. The horse shit you guys come up with!!

Chris K

2025-02-03 01:22:32 +0000 UTC

RJ, I find all this talk about murder very bazaar. First Jesse is going to do in Dan and Lester to rescue the slut Sarah. Jesse could never hold on to Sarah he is worst then Dan. Second Dan is going to commit mass murder after catching his slut wife covered in cum involved in a gangbang with the kids at home. That is believing. What is so interesting about all this is many think this could happen and the discussion has gone so far as to could Dan beat the wrap. So if you all fine this murder thing believable then why is it over the top to suggest that Lester could fuck the mother and cock old the father with the sluts help to take total control of the family? Why is it over the top to suggest that Sarah could abuse her mother such as forcing her mothers head on Lester cock? Why is it over the top to suggest that Sarah has no decency left? So we except murder in this story but not incest. Isn't that in someway hypocrisy?

Earl0849

2025-02-03 00:57:02 +0000 UTC

You know what, I'm done with this ENTIRELY vacuous dross! You asked me to show you where Don publicly tagged Toxic Attraction as NTR and I promptly showed you a DOZEN, up to and including as recently as LAST WEEK. Your emotional incapacity to acknowledge obvious ignorance on the matter, and subsequent maelstrom of irrelevant idiocy has devolved into an avalanche of disingenuous, meaningless and irrelevant bullshit. You vapidly asked a stupid question and promptly got your ass handed to you; now suck it up, grow a pair, acknowledge your error, take the L and move on ffs... 🤦‍♀️🙄🤯

Arc

2025-02-03 00:29:24 +0000 UTC

Michael Haase - Perfect. Now just add in the financial issues, where Sarah explains is paying the mortgage and bills for the entire family and not only is Dan not contributing, but Dan can't even pay his share of the rent at Lester's apartment. Perhaps Dan needs to rethink his position.

Darrow

2025-02-03 00:27:37 +0000 UTC

All for #8 & 14

LesterstheMAN

2025-02-03 00:04:35 +0000 UTC

You need to take a chill pill. You clearly can't be reasoned with. I'm not going to continue going round in circles with you. I've shown you proof that you said every chapter Don posted to Lit was tagged NTR. They weren't, and you know that. But you can't admit that claim was wrong. Instead, you move the argument onto other issues. So I suggest we leave it there, because this is pointless.

MV

2025-02-02 23:51:59 +0000 UTC

Nah. There's enough evidence of Sarah and Dan bringing in multiple men, and Dan being unstable, he'd get convicted. There's a huge pile of evidence, including text messages of Dan and Sarah deliberately playing with Lester. There's the Byron thing. There's Vernon. At least one parking exhibition thing. Any prosecutor would paint them as swingers in a wild lifestyle. And they've got enough evidence of violence and acting out to portray Dan as dangerously unstable and bipolar about their swinging lifestyle. He'd absolutely be convicted. And the court case would make national news in the tabloid section - "Psycho Swinger - He passed his wife around like a party favour, but when she liked it too much he killed her." Even if he escaped conviction, Dan would certainly lose his career completely, he'd become unemployable, lose the children, ostracized from his entire famly. He'd end up in North Dakota working shifts at a Cinnabun.

Darrow

2025-02-02 23:28:21 +0000 UTC

"He is protecting his wife in their house against rapists..." Only if Sarah says that it's rape, and backs him up... If she says it was consensual, and that Dan went off like a psychotic lunatic, he's going away... There are several witnesses to Dan's complicity in her extra-marital activities...

Arc

2025-02-02 22:48:45 +0000 UTC

Dan doesn’t know that, didn’t see the videos. All he knows is that he came home and multiple men were fucking his wife, while he and Sarah had an agreement that would not happen in the house. My point is that Dan would have a plausible defense, especially if he asked everyone to leave and they did not (no way would Lester stop). Maybe not kill Lester, but stomp the shit out of him so that his prime asset is rendered useless for the rest of his life. Sarah would then probably lose interest in him.

Rjh200m

2025-02-02 22:00:45 +0000 UTC

Unless he kills everyone, there are other witnesses that will say otherwise. Not to mention the videos on Lester’s phone showing Sarah having consensual sex with the exact men in the room and the lack of any signs of a struggle.

Steve

2025-02-02 21:30:54 +0000 UTC

If Lester arranges a gang-bang of Sarah in her house and Dan comes home and gets enraged and kills Lester (hopefully), he is not getting convicted of anything. He is protecting his wife in their house against rapists. That’s how he would defend himself.

Rjh200m

2025-02-02 21:08:02 +0000 UTC

@Michael Haase -- Don began posting chapters of Toxic Attraction on Literotica in/around October of 2022 (I can't tell for certain because it looks like he re-posted chapter 1 in March of '23, but both Chapter 2 and 3 were posted in Oct of '22) In any case, he started labelling (tagging) it as "NTR" with Chapter 4, posted in December of '22 and It has been identified as a Notorare-themed story multiple times since, and it has been consistently-so since at least June of '23. Netorare/NTR is a very specific and niche porn genre, but Don has intentionally used the label both repeatedly, and consistently, even as the story progresses. In that light, I think that it's pretty unreasonable, and, honestly, intellectually-indefensible, to try and claim that I am somehow trying to impose anything on the story's genre that its own author has himself been actively, and publicly, identifying it with for more than two years now...

Arc

2025-02-02 20:08:59 +0000 UTC

I'd pay extra for D&D too, could be such a great scene if done correctly.

whiterhino

2025-02-02 20:03:43 +0000 UTC

Now you're moving the goal posts. Labelled NTR for a 'considerable period of time' is very different from 'every chapter', your original claim. What makes you think that Literotica's user base is different from hotwife fans on Amazon? You think all Loving Wife readers are looking for NTR or BTB stories? Plus, in your last paragraph, your admitting that Don would have to mislead readers to get more sales. Well done.

MV

2025-02-02 19:47:15 +0000 UTC

So, the story HAS been labelled NTR, CLEARLY, and PUBLICLY, since Dec of 2022; So, just for TWO + YEARS! Your question, I'll remind you, was for me to show you where it had been thusly labelled, and I did just that, abundantly! Thanks for (albeit grudgingly) acknowledging your inerudition! The story has clearly and repeatedly been publicly tagged as NTR for a considerable period of time. I'm not surprised he didn't include it on Amazon, why would he? It's not remotely the same target consumer as Literotica's user base, and while I doubt it would significantly add to sales if it was included, I could certainly imagine that it could cost them...

Arc

2025-02-02 19:38:53 +0000 UTC

Arc, we must be reading different versions of Lit. I've just checked, and the first sighting I have of NTR is CH. 04. I would contend that most people who are following the series have stopped checking tags by then. The Amazon book cover definitely says 'A dark hotwife story' on the cover, and you have to assume that Don himself sanctioned that. So, no, it absolutely isn't made clear up front how this story is going to go.

MV

2025-02-02 19:20:37 +0000 UTC

Lol! -- Look at the story tags on the chapters of TA that Don's been posting for free on Literotica (the place where, I'd suggest, most ppl here discovered this story). It's as public and blatant as can be: https://tags.literotica.com/ntr/ Scroll down and you'll find every posted chapter (starting with Chapter 4, in December of 2022) that's been thusly tagged -- that's two years of labelling, by the actual author, while describing his work and declaring his intentions therewith to the world. I also included a screen shot in the community showing Chapters 15-18 (the latest posted there) all appearing under that tag (couldn't find a way to attach an image to this post).

Arc

2025-02-02 18:59:59 +0000 UTC

Darrow I'm seeing Mary as the wild card. Yes, Jesse has a problem and could be a factor, but Mary has been taken down and could be in danger of losing everything should Lester draw Richard into regular sex with Sarah. Nothing more dangerous than a woman scorned. When the dust settles, we may be left with Dan, Jesse and Otis to see to the needs of Sarah with Otis being Alpha. Maybe off the rail some but you never know.

Earl0849

2025-02-02 18:59:57 +0000 UTC

Exactly, it started of a cuckhold story with some good erotic angst now it's a slut wife story. Some of these guys just want the formula they think is applicable. Me too.

Michael Haase

2025-02-02 18:51:31 +0000 UTC

D: "So, you've had sex with Lester again since we last spoke." S: "Of course I have, you know how Lester is. He needs it....I need it. So it happens." D: "I thought we were going to agree when things happen, what about me?" S: "I agreed to tell you everything, and I will, but it's impossible to know every time things might happen with Lester and then wait for your approval, beside I don't need your approval, and Lester doesn't need your approval. You're lucky we tell you." D: "I thought you wouldn't have sex with Lester unless I was involved. I guess that's no longer the case." S: "Dan, it's not your fantasy game anymore. Lester is my boyfriend and we're going to do it when we want to. I do love you, but I have feelings for Lester too and I know the thought excites you." D: "But what about us Sarah, are we still married, are we going to have sex too?" S: "Of course we're still married, I'll always love you, you're my husband..." D: "But....?" S: "I have a boyfriend now, he has the biggest cock and he fucks me better than anyone. I love sex with Lester and we're going to do it as much as we can. And the best thing is I know you'll love it too. So, I can keep both my men satisfied. I bet you're hard now just hearing about it." D: "I'm not...." S: "Dan, I can see the tent in your pants, Dan, you're a cuckhold baby, admit it, enjoy it. I'll give it to you baby, Lester and I will make you a very excited cuckhold." D: "I can't ......." S: "Stop, it's to late baby, you're my cuck and I love it, you love it, and Lester loves it too. He's my alpha now. I still love you sweety, I won't deny you, .......unless you want me too. Does that excite you baby, being denied, ohh someone's hard as a rock. You like that idea?" D: "I'm not like that, Sarah." S: "Ohhh, someone is really excited, does denial get little Danny excited. I read about men who like that, Lester wants me to ration you. Would that keep little Dan stiff, some rationing?" D: "No..." S: "Wow, did you just climax in you pants? I guess we know what your little guy wants. Let me talk to Lester about that." D: "Don't you dare tell Lester anything." S: "I tell my boyfriend everything, we need to know what buttons to punch to make your cuckhold experience the best. Lester wants you to enjoy this too. He'll be happy to know you get off on the thought of him being exclusive, I admit, it excites me too, especially knowing how you're going to love it." D: "Stop teasing me Sarah" S: "I never tease.... well sometimes. So, if you're not getting it what are you going to do with little Dan. Will you be jacking off every hour like you did when I was dating Lester?" D: "I didn't jack off." S: "Of course you did, I found the cum stained Kleenex. You were practically useless for me later." D: "Sorry..." S: "I may not be using the little guy regularly, but I don't want my property damaged, Let me think about your denial fetish, Lester may have an idea how we can insert it into your cuckhold fantasy so everyone can enjoy it." D: "Please no Sarah...please..."

Michael Haase

2025-02-02 18:32:24 +0000 UTC

Solid possibility.

Steve

2025-02-02 17:50:16 +0000 UTC

I don’t think Lester would intend for Dan to commit suicide. His intention would be to show Dan to his face just how far Sarah had fallen in the hopes of ending their marriage but he has no idea how poor Dan’s mental state currently is. Things might not go as planned.

Steve

2025-02-02 17:49:54 +0000 UTC

One thought I had when reading your comment. Maybe Lester sends the videos to Dan with some comment to enrage him. He comes violent gets thrown in Jail for few months years. That woukd make Sarah competent dependent on Lester and destroy the marriage.

Mkm560

2025-02-02 17:31:48 +0000 UTC

Dan sitting at home alone in the apartment stewing over what Sarah did at the hotel with Jesse and Lester is kinda sad, but mostly funny. Meanwhile, while he's worried about last week, look at what's happened since then. Sarah has fucked Lester in their home with the girls there, she is now working with Lester, wearing his ring, telling him she loves him, fucking him in his office, hoping this will be a daily occurrence, going to the hospital basement to blow the janitor. When Lester tells her he's going to fuck her at night, too, she doesn't say no, just that they'll need to arrange something besides him coming to the house. Dan doesn't know any of that, but what does he think Sarah and Lester are doing all this time? He's like a farmer going to bed at night worried that he might have left the barn door open and his prized filly might have gotten out and thinking he'll need to check on her in the morning. Meanwhile the prized filly is frolicking down the road miles from home, hooking up with a stallion who is (wait for it) hung like a horse. By the time he finds out what happened, his prize filly will be in a family way.

Mark Albright

2025-02-02 17:31:05 +0000 UTC

I agree about Dan and Jesse. And the recordings of Jesse and Otis would be incredibly potent tools to crush Dan further, either to rupture his relationship with Sarah (potentially permanently), or to fully subordinate him, accelerate his depression or trigger suicide. I don't think that Lester wants suicide, that would mess up Sarah and jolt her. No matter how deeply under his thumb she is, that would break the spell. But generally, yes. Good analysis.

Darrow

2025-02-02 17:28:42 +0000 UTC

Things may be about to turn really dark, really quick. Dan is clearly slipping into full blown clinical depression. He is checking out of every aspect of his life. Jesse’s delusions are turning very “stalker-ish”, and he is imagining that Sarah needs him to rescue her from Lester and Dan controlling her life. Both are displaying red flags that, under the right circumstances, they could pose a danger to themselves or others. Lester seems to be bringing together the elements for his death stroke (figuratively speaking) for Dan. He has a recording of Sarah fucking Jesse and now of her with Otis. He teases Sarah with the prospect of a gangbang/bukkake session and she is excited at the idea. There are many ways this could play out but he may be planning to send those videos to Dan in order to lure him home to Middletown, just as he used the photo of Jesse to lure him to the third floor of the hotel, only to arrive just in time to witness the finale or aftermath of Sarah being glazed by multiple men. Likely Lester, Otis, and Jesse in his own home. He could lash out violently or, given his depression, turn suicidal. Or Jesse could take the opportunity to attempt his “rescue” of Sarah from Lester and Dan. Who knows, but it feels like something serious is about to happen. A few pieces may be permanently removed from the board.

Steve

2025-02-02 17:16:55 +0000 UTC

Lester is deeply arrogant, and Mary was messing with his toy and demanding that he do something (attend meetings) he really didn't want to do. I'm not surprised that Lester took her head off. I think it's an uncalculated reflexive move on Lester's part. That seems to be his pattern - he gets into a fight or argument, and then he starts to scheme. Look at the thing with Eugene, or many of his interactions with and plots against Dan. I think we're seeing the start of the Lester-Mary/Thornhill war. I don't think he'll make an agreement with Thornhill to hand over or allow use of Sarah. The thing with Thornhill is very different from the thing with Otis. Otis is an inferior, harmless, and potentially a very useful tool. Thornhill is a superior, in a dominant position, a manipulator and sadist himself, and an enemy. I agree that Lester will make her fuck Thornhill. He's the guy she hates after all. But I think he'll do it by having Sarah seduce Thornhill, or at least make herself available as her new developing reputation as 'hospital whore' congeals around her. And it will be part of Lester's war on Mary/Thornhill, and engaging Sarah as a participant, the way Dan engaged her as a participant with Byron. He's going to make Sarah willingly participate in and seek out her own degradation. He may even convince her its her idea. Note that he's already enlisting her.... * "“I don’t know. Let’s see how much she keeps pissing you off. I have a stack of requests from her department. Why don’t we start by purposely delaying those until she comes down here personally asking for them? Then you can toy with her a bit. Maybe make her beg. Who knows, maybe we could tape over the bottom of her phone so it doesn’t work or change her autocorrect in Word to mess with her… unless you want to get creative and let the air out of her tires or something like that. I haven’t thought too far ahead.” “She’s a bitch, but messing with her car might be crossing a line.” Sarah gave him a sidelong look. “The other things though, it might be fun seeing her squirm a bit.” Sarah shook her head, suppressing a smile. It was nice to have someone to share her frustrations with. Someone who wanted to back her up. " * It's wonderfully naive of Sarah to think that letting the air out of her tires is too far, compared to the workplace things that Lester suggests. But note how viciously and subtly creative Lester is at the drop of a hat, and how nothing he suggests doing can be traced back. And note how easily she signs on. It's kid stuff and hijinks, but you can easily see the slippery slope to real nastiness. Sarah willingly using her body as part of a scheme to fuck Thornhill over would be a major step in her corruption / deconstruction. And maybe, right here when she says "it could be fun" we see the beginning of the path that goes there. Maybe Earl is right about corrupting her into a protege. After all, I've speculated that this is basically the relationship between Thornhill and Mary - corrupter and protege.

Darrow

2025-02-02 17:15:56 +0000 UTC

Darrow in response to your comment about no Lesbian play between Sarah & Mary. One of these women is going to lay some serious pain on the other and sexual abuse is going to be part of that pain. Call it what you want but it's coming. Whoever is the aggressor Lester or Richard will witness it.

Earl0849

2025-02-02 17:10:01 +0000 UTC

Darrow - Great analysis. I think Don Silver will disclose in the next chapter the side agreement that Lester and Thornhill reached. There is no way Lester goes after Mary the way he did without some knowledge that it won’t backfire on him. And this agreement has to include Thornhill’s access to Sarah’s body. A delivering of Lester’s promise to Sarah that he would make her fuck someone she hates. And another undermining of her workplace status.

Rjh200m

2025-02-02 16:55:33 +0000 UTC

I think you're exactly on target, especially with your last paragraph. One small comment - about looking for another job. I gather that Middleton is a small city or at best a largish town. I'm betting that there aren't a lot of positions as Hospital Administrators opening there. Or equivalent administrative positions in other industries or businesses. Smaller places tend to have less job mobility, people put down roots. So looking for another job may involve one of two things (1) A cut in pay and status to stay in the community; (2) Possible need to relocate to find a decent alternate position at the same status and pay. Since they have a house and children, and Sarah is actually paying the mortgage and household expenses, neither option is particularly viable. A family can generally afford to send only one person out into the wilderness / out of town to find a good job to send money home. That was Dan. And Dan has basically failed at that. Sarah can't afford to leave, and she can't afford to take a lower paying lower status job. The family is barely hanging on. So she's literally trapped. She has no choice but to work under Lester. And if Dan doesn't like that, or tries to push it, or makes a demand, Sarah is going to acquaint him hard with the family financial realities.

Darrow

2025-02-02 16:51:36 +0000 UTC

I don't think a lesbian thing is likely, that's just hypotheticals. As to Mary and Thornhill... Thornhill seems abusive. We've really only seen his interactions with Sarah at a few meetings, and his interactions with Lester when he tries to let Lester go and Lester wangles himself a job as IT head. Indirectly, we've seen his management approach at the hospital. Regarding Sarah, in two staff meetings, he goes out of his way to humiliate and demean Sarah, while at the same time putting hands on her, massaging her shoulders in unwanted touching. Now, regarding the humiliation and demeaning - he criticizes Sarah for being late, even though he started early. It's not her fault, but he still takes the occasion to humiliate her. Maybe he is singling out Sarah, but I get the feeling that's his standard operating procedure - all staff get that sort of treatment sooner or later. And in fact, as he addresses the staff, it's very clear that he's going to be unpleasant and to make sweeping changes. There's also the rather open sexual harassment, the unwanted touching, that seems particular to Sarah. This is an 'old school' guy who considers women in the workplace inferior, and thinks nothing of mild sexual harassment. No respect for boundaries. Now, move on to the encounter with Lester - at first, he's going to let Lester go. But Lester has a read on the sort of person he is and plays submissive. Lester manifests 'vulnerability and desperation' - 'Oh noes! Sir! I need this gig! I'm desperate! I need to pay the rent!' Thornhill takes the bait, following up on desperation, and using it to drive an abusively hard bargain, where Lester is now employed for a fraction of his worth, and under Thornhill's control as clearly vulnerable. In reality, it's Lester manipulating Thornhill. But from his point of view, he's just screwed over Lester in half a dozen ways and gotten him securely under his thumb. That's basically showing Thornhill's character, and it's reflexive and straightforward enough that Lester can easily understand and manipulate it. As to the rest of the information on Thornhill, it's almost all indirect. But it's consistent. Thornhill basically sets about purging the hospital, and it's a massive purge. Typically, a new CEO gets rid of his rivals, and usually lets the underlying machine run. But this is going far beyond that, established people everywhere are being let go. Departments are short staffed. There's radical reorganizations. There's an element of viciousness to this housecleaning. Maybe this is just business. Maybe it's 'slash and burn' management, or private equity shenanigans. Or maybe its a particular personal/management style. Another bit of indirect evidence is the people he brings on - only two direct examples. Lester, who he believes he's screwed over and is under his thumb, and who makes him happy by laying off or screwing over his own staff. And Mary, the worst HR director in the world, with the human relation skills of a piranha on a period. In short, I think the picture is an abusive, bullying, demeaning authoritarian who rules by manipulation and intimidation, and who seems to operate through personal control and pressure over key individuals. While he gives no sign of being a micromanager, his strategy is to abuse and degrade, and make sure that behaviour is repeated downstream. Now the question is, is this behaviour only in the office. Does he transform into a human being at home? Let's get back to that. Because I want to touch on the borderline sexual harassment he inflicted on Sarah in their meeting. There's a lack of boundary there in the workplace. When Sarah initially meets Thornhill, she notes signs of alcoholism, a threadbare suit, a roughness in personal grooming, and she's given to understand that he's been in the wilderness - without a job. Getting this job out of the blue seems like it must have been a godsend for him, as well as a stroke of luck for the hospital. But what does this initial picture tell us? The suggestion of alcoholism or drinking implies depressed impulse control, he's not really reigning in dark impulses or his nasty side. He's been relegated to the outside before this - so likely, he's had transgressions in his previous job that made it hard for him to find his next. Abusive management practices and borderline sexual harassment would do the trick. So, what I think I'd be getting at, is that for a guy like this, the abusive behaviours, the tendency to arbitrarily demean and humiliate, the lack of boundaries, particularly of personal/sexual boundaries and the particular penchant for cruelty and 'screwing a vulnerable victim over' is likely not just his professional persona, but carries over into his private life as well, and into his sexual life. In short, he's a nasty son of a bitch in the bedroom, particularly if he feels unleashed. It's clear he's got very little or no respect for women, so really, there's very little to stop him from expressing himself sexually... particularly if he can get away with it or has power. So I visualize him as an extremely nasty S&M operator, toxic and emotionally destructive. Now, one more thing with Thornhill. Sarah observes a threadbare suit and grooming issues, he looks rough. There's never any indication of a Mrs Thornhill. He's likely single and not in any kind of relationship with mutual binding obligations - not married, not cohabiting, not common law. Which brings us to Mary. We know two things about Mary. One is that she parachuted in immediately after Thornhill. This implies things: 1) That she knew or worked with or for Thornhill previously. We know from his interview with Lester, he likes people under his thumb, so if they'd worked together, there'd likely been that 'under the thumb/abuse' workplace relationship. The two of them have some sort of history. 2) It also implies that she was available to take the job at the drop of a hat. So either she was in the wilderness herself, looking for her next gig. Or for some reason he wanted her badly enough to make an offer she couldn't refuse to leave whatever her job was and come to Middleton. Or she's sufficiently under his thumb that when he calls she has to come. Each of these, has its own dynamic. But all of them place her in a position of vulnerability to and dependence on Thornhill, she's under his thumb.... and we know what he's like. The other thing we know about Mary is that she's cut from the same cloth as Thornhill. If anything, she's worse. She's peremptory, abusive and on the attack. She degrades and demeans. We can assume from Thornhill's condition, that he doesn't have a wife or a partner to make sure he's groomed, etc. And even the hospital administration would object to Thornhill hiring a wife or partner in a senior management position. So they're not in any formal relationship where Mary would have rights or status. But if Thornhill is such an ass privately, and a casual sexual harasser, and likes people under his thumb, and has Mary under his thumb to the point he can parachute her in.... there's a relationship there, and a lot of control. I don't think it's a stretch to suspect or assume a sick nasty sexual relationship between Thornhill and Mary, where she's his co-dependent sex toy for nasty games. Anyway that's my take.

Darrow

2025-02-02 16:39:49 +0000 UTC

Royston it continues to amaze me that you want to sugar coat this story and force yourself to believe that Sarah would not be capable of some actions Darrow or myself have suggested. As far as keeping it real that went out the door several chapters ago.

Earl0849

2025-02-02 16:27:39 +0000 UTC

Can you show me where Don labelled it as NTR? I only recall it being sub-headed as a 'Dark Hotwife' story. That's quite ambiguous, imo.

MV

2025-02-02 16:13:25 +0000 UTC

"follow the formula, no deviation allowed" Okay, this totally confuses me... Would you enjoy going to watch a serious drama flick that, 3/4ths of the way in, for no discernible reason, suddenly turned into a slap-stick comedy? (or vice-versa?) What exactly wd/b the point of that? If you don't like/want/enjoy Netorare porn, why'd you start reading it? Don's been clearly labelling it as such, so there's no argument that it was sprung upon you, and no rationale for why you'd reasonably expect it to suddenly and inexplicably turn into something else even as it's (finally) approaching its apotheosis... Baffling... 🤔🤨🙄

Arc

2025-02-02 16:05:44 +0000 UTC

Good point. And this is actually an interesting development - "debt manipulation." Increasingly, Lester is setting arbitrary rules, or transgressing on rules, and then framing it as 'debt' or 'you owe me.' When he learns she fucked Byron without his permission, 'you owe me.' When she sends him home after sex in their house, 'you owe me.' It's a cunning form of manipulation, because it allows the abuser to pretend to negotiate, and the victim to pretend freedom. The abuser can literally do or demand anything and set arbitrary rules. The victim can say know, but then owes the abuser a debt to be paid with some arbitrary act or submission chosen by the abuser. There's a false element of choice and voluntariness for the victim that, under pressure is hard to resist. You see it in Domestic abuse situations, but also in other forms of conspiracy or criminal relationships. It's a very effective tool of control and manipulation. And yes, you're also exactly right in that she feels she owes Lester a debt for her job. And from her point of view, she exactly does. She had every duty and authority in her job stripped away, ended up in a cubicle, and then had her cubicle re-assigned without even telling her, to a trainee. A newly hired trainee suddenly had more status and authority than she did. And she wasn't even given advance notice. She's practically made redundant, all but fired, by a manager who cares less about her than a wad of gum under a seat. It's a moment where literally, she's gone. She's lost it all. Going home in disgrace, losing the house, everything, the house of cards of her life is about to collapse. And in that same moment, Mary tells her there's a position for her in IT. That's Lester, acting to save her ass. The sense of psychic debt must be enormous. Particularly since Lester treats her respectfully like an employee the first couple of weeks, allowing her to rebuild her sense of self worth, while at the same time as it is undermined by her awareness of her inadequacy for her new department. There's huge vulnerability there to be exploited. And this episode, Lester plays with it hard, both bolstering and undermining her professionalism. Dissolving her work/sex boundaries, merging the two parts of her life. But at the same time defending her and giving her shreds of self respect about her job, making her more dependent on him in every way.

Darrow

2025-02-02 15:57:32 +0000 UTC

Darrow where is it written anywhere that Mary is trapped in a psychologically damaged sex relationship? Why a Lesbian relationship with Sarah ? You really are in my name is Earl territory now. Will Mary have a Lesbian relationship with Sarah’s mother perhaps as Lester fucks her in the other room, while she sucks Thornhills cock? Please, let’s keep it real. If the story goes that way it will become palpably ridiculous.

Royston smith

2025-02-02 15:38:21 +0000 UTC

Notwithstanding my earlier comments about parts of the story getting repetitive and boring, TA is still an incredibly engaging read. And Don Silver says in the intro to chapter 26 that things will come to a head and hit the fan in the next chapter. Some perspective - Clearly Sarah has made a huge leap in her attachment to Lester and her loyalty to him. Him saving her job and defending her against Mary has significantly increased the overall attractiveness of him in her eyes. As evidenced by her internal thoughts on Lester when she described her ring to Mary during the office meeting. Interesting that Sarah did not even mention Dan’s name during that explanation, she just referred to “we” and “he”. What is even more revealing is that Sarah feels this attachment and loyalty to Lester even though Dan is the collateral damage. She just seems to ignore that fact that Lester’s conniving resulted in her husband winding up in jail. But this could also be Sarah focusing on the more important issue in her mind of the welfare of her two children. It’s more important that she has a job to support them and, in her mind, Lester is directly responsible for this. Dan is a lesser concern right now. In one of my comments on chapter 25, I laid out some possible indications that Sarah is making the transformation from Dan to Lester. One of them was whether or not Sarah starts looking for another job when she learned she was demoted and would be working for Lester. Clearly she has no interest in looking for another job at this point and she seems to be fully embracing her role as Lesters’s employee. Question I have at this point is what could be the possible dialogue between Dan and Sarah once he gets back to Middleton? Does Sarah fill him in on everything that has happened? In the past she has, but it seems very different now. She has already rationalized to herself that she wants to keep everything from Dan to protect him and not worry him while he tries to build his side businesses. Or perhaps the Dan-Sarah discussion takes place in Chicago when Sarah accompanies Lester the next time he has to go to the apartment. We know that she will do this. A related question is whether Sarah even goes to Chicago to visit Dan without Lester. I’m sure Lester would not let her go without him also going. Regardless of where the discussion takes place, it should be very different than past Dan-Sarah discussions. There will be no talk of how they need to plan better and let Lester know the ground rules and that they are in charge, not Lester. This is completely OBE. It has to be a discussion where Sarah lets Dan know what has changed for her and how this has impacted her relationship with and feelings for Lester and what this means for Dan and Sarah’s marriage. And then let the fireworks begin!

Rjh200m

2025-02-02 13:41:20 +0000 UTC

So, follow the formula, no deviation allowed.

Michael Haase

2025-02-02 09:55:44 +0000 UTC

Darrow all good and accurate analysis, but you are missing one thing out. Lester manipulating her in the background. She once fulfilled Dan’ s fantasies , now she fulfils Lester’s. So although she is enjoying herself it’s all for Lester as once it was all for Dan. She feels she owes Lester a debt job wise and also in sexual terms and boy is she ,deep down, loving it.

Royston smith

2025-02-02 09:20:25 +0000 UTC

Well certainly you are right in this. I think the core of the downfall, if you want to call it that way, seems not… Like sufficient enough. The Williams family is drawn a bit too close, to determined to face Everything together, maybe too happy even to really easily accept them falling to the feeling of beeing thoroughly pleasured „only“. Also in the beginning both seem to be smart and confident individuals and both kind of degenerated even mentally in a way that seems excessive. Dan is so far away physically and even in their thinking that its not even easy to pity him anymore. But we will see 😊

Robert Schmidt

2025-02-02 09:13:06 +0000 UTC

Not that I think Jesse's going to do it soon. But floating him is a convenient way to wrap the story up fast if it needs wrapping up. Or to trigger a fucked up situation basically at will. I see Jesse as a "pocket story element" to use when convenient.

Darrow

2025-02-02 05:49:06 +0000 UTC

Earl0849 - I dunno Earl, thinking out loud, Dan, Byron, Lester are all disposable. I could stand to read "The Unpleasant Adventures of Sarah" as she starts life over in Chicago, looking for a new job, meeting a succession of new men in her life who are sexually amazing but toxic in every other way, and experiences new degradations every chapter. Imagine the possibilities. She dates a club owner, and ends up with a part time job as a stripper and lap dancer and gets passed around to scuzzier and scuzzier clubs. She goes out on a date with a nice guy, and ends up in his basement in bondage. To make ends meet she agrees to do a bachelor party full contact. Every new chapter, a little more dignity a little more self worth is torn away or abandoned.

Darrow

2025-02-02 05:47:40 +0000 UTC

Mark - I don't think Dan is entirely an incompetent screw up. I think that within the narrow spectrum of his actual professional competence, I suspect he's extremely competent and capable. He seems to really know his stuff from an engineering viewpoint. Having said that, he doesn't seem to know or be very effective at anything else. I suspect his office politic skills are really bad. I suspect that in the workplace, he was immature, entitled and difficult to work with and had poor personal skills. Basically, he's a highly competent guy who couldn't find a job for two years, took an 'out of town' job with at best a substandard to mediocre company, and has stuck with it even as it's been sinking, because his resume doesn't fly anywhere else. Even acknowledging Lester's meddling, he doesn't seem nearly as marketable as he should be. So I think he's got professional flaws and a reputation. But in terms of life skills - yeah, screw up. He keeps making bad strategic and businessdecisions.

Darrow

2025-02-02 05:29:42 +0000 UTC

I think he wanted to break Dan and take Sarah away from him. And I think Lester feels he broke Dan. Dan's no longer a challenge, and no longer a fun toy. I don't think Lester is, in long term, a deep or strategic thinker. He's self absorbed he sets goals and moves towards them. But I don't think he ever thinks much about life or how he's going to arrange it, or about other people.

Darrow

2025-02-02 05:23:35 +0000 UTC

Cash flow will determine the out come of story; faster people leave the faster it ends. Watch and see if things do not change three to five more chapters at most

ralph

2025-02-02 02:30:42 +0000 UTC

To each their own, I guess. I want Dan to lose, so this is great.

Chris

2025-02-02 02:23:25 +0000 UTC

I thought this chapter was pretty hot, tbh. I don't care at all about Dan (and never will) or Jessie and am not particularly interested in Otis, but having Lester and Sarah spend the whole chapter at work and the dynamics that brought was fantastic.

Chris

2025-02-02 02:21:54 +0000 UTC

Darrow you mentioned that you thought Lester may be losing interest in Dan. Does he not need Dan to totally submit to him and Sarah? If not who is going to take care of kids while he fucks his slut and passes her around when so inclined. Sarah is very near to allowing Lester around the home whenever he wants and he will fuck her whenever he wants. Someone will have to isolate the kids. I don't think she will fuck him in front of kids but I think she will knowing there awake and can here her. Sarah is all but gone. Sound judgement has left the building. So its Dan or the parents that bare the responsibility of the children. Lester wants to take her under above circumstances to establish full control and residency. I believe Sarah could get mean toward Dan and her parents if they get in her way.

Earl0849

2025-02-02 02:12:43 +0000 UTC

Royston, everyone who knows me says that I am the soul of generosity.

Darrow

2025-02-02 01:14:41 +0000 UTC

To follow up on my comment - Lester suggests to Otis that if Sarah walks by, she might be interested and he should follow. So vague instructions to both, just setting the pieces in place. Lester likes to control the situation, but he also likes to corrupt. But yes. I wouldn't say so much lazy writing as rushed and rough. First draft inadequately polished. I knew a guy once, famous fantasy novelist, who accidentally changed the gender of one of his characters half way through the novel. He didn't notice, his agent didn't notice, the publisher didn't notice... 200,000 fans did. It should have been caught more smoothly in the rewrite. It's possible that Don may be getting into Game of Thrones territory, where like Martin, he's steadily painting his characters into a corner. Martin dealt with it by killing off a bunch of characters dramatically, clearing the board, introducing a new cast and then having no idea what to do with them. This core of staleness is why I suggested bringing Byron back as a nemesis, to complicate everyone's life. Byron is so invested in both fucking over Dan and fucking Sarah, he'd have been a great foil for Lester. But Richard and Mary as a 'power couple for evil' might also do the trick, as they work to turn Sarah into a sex slave and get rid of Lester and Dan.

Darrow

2025-02-02 01:13:19 +0000 UTC

Anyone who's been misguidedly riding a 'happy ending" train doesn't know or understand the NTR genre (granted, so far, that does seem to encapsulate a very broad swath of the audience here)...

Arc

2025-02-02 01:07:46 +0000 UTC

But you are commenting here, a thread only available for those paying 15 dollars.

Jack

2025-02-02 01:06:14 +0000 UTC

If he sticks to the genre he's continually labelled this as, that's how it's supposed to end (i.e: Sarah betraying Dan, and totally falling-for and submitting-to Lester)

Arc

2025-02-02 01:05:52 +0000 UTC

So, uh, you guys do all actually realise that Dan is expected to lose in the end right? That the very essence of this genre of writing is that the gf/wife ends up romantically/sexually/emotionally entangled with the antagonist/bull character, betraying her former partner and either just leaving them, or thoroughly cucking+dominating him for her (their) amusement? 🤔😳

Arc

2025-02-02 01:04:11 +0000 UTC

I think you are being too generous. It’s just bad writing I am afraid. Don is taking the piss. He hasn’t bothered to synchronise and make consistent the two scenes.

Royston smith

2025-02-02 00:56:19 +0000 UTC

sigh -- it's an NTR story! According to type/genre, "their family, their love and their future" are all destined for darkness! Sticking to expectations, Sarah should end up emotionally, romantically and sexually bound to/with Lester, with Dan either leaving, upon realizing how corrupted/damaged/dark she's become, or succumbing to his cuckold nature and serving her (and Lester, even if indirectly) as a thoroughly dominated and debased cuck... That's literally the essence of what it means to be a Netorare-themed story!

Arc

2025-02-02 00:55:48 +0000 UTC

Royston, I respect that position.

Darrow

2025-02-02 00:54:44 +0000 UTC

🤣

Royston smith

2025-02-02 00:52:55 +0000 UTC

I think Mary is deeply, deeply insecure. She's always one step away from the trash heap because Thornhill likes her terrified and insecure. She's into or trapped in psychologically damaging sex / relationship, and she's learned to take it out on everyone. Basically, I don't think Mary's actually a bitch. I think she's massively damaged, and damaging. There's two ways Mary could do Sarah. The first is as an obedient accessory to Thornhill, in which case she'll be consumed by jealousy and hatred for a rival, utterly obedient to Thornhill, and literally spitting venom into Sarah's pussy. But the superficials will be straight lesbian action, Mary would or could lick and kiss her etc, even tongue her to orgasm, all the while resenting her, and if allowed to, will be nasty as hell. The second is harder to set up as the two women genuinely dislike each other, but if she got some kind of sexual dominance over Sarah and used it, it would be napalm not fireworks. Mary wouldn't be licking any pussy, but Sarah would be - Sarah would be fisted, vaginally, anally and orally, her body would be covered with scratches and bruises, and she would be psychologically assaulted and demeaned. Mary might make Sarah orgasm all the way through it, or might bring Sarah to a state of near orgasm and hold her there, or simply deny her any sexual pleasure at all... whichever was the most damaging.

Darrow

2025-02-02 00:52:36 +0000 UTC

I am definitely downgrading this chapter to 6/10 from 7/10 at the alpha stage. Too unbalanced, too many inconsistencies and too much golden goose writing. He is now starting to take the piss. He needs to come roaring back with a really significant chapter in 27 to stop me roaring off into the distance. Even the Sarah/Lester sex scenes are getting boring now. And during the Otis one I was shouting at the page, just stick your cock in her Otis she wants it! But, of course, we can’t kill the golden goose can we! We need endless iterations of its impending demise before it’s finally shot through the head, somewhere over the rainbow way up high. Ffs!!

Royston smith

2025-02-02 00:47:29 +0000 UTC

Darrow if your right I hope Sarah gets fucked more b/4 Jesse screws it all up.

Earl0849

2025-02-02 00:47:19 +0000 UTC

Yeah. That's persuasive. Lester having some control over the scene makes a lot of sense. How does he know how to go to the boiler room to video them otherwise? It's implied, I think explicitly stated that Sarah chose the boiler room. But there's no indication that she discussed or mentioned it with Lester. Unless there's some element of set up, how does she know that Otis will follow her down to the boiler room? Or even where Otis is? Is she supposed to walk randomly around the hospital until she sees him, then hope he notices and starts following her? As a completely random seduction, it doesn't work. Sarah has to know where to go, to run across Otis. Otis has to know to follow her this time. Lester has to know where to go to video them. But both Otis and Sarah in their internal monologues are acting like they're working without a net, and making their choices. So maybe Lester was deliberately vague. Lester: "You know that Janitor, Otis, the one who came on your face. I know he's working the second floor, far wing. I want you to walk by him...." Sarah: "That's it? Walk by him?" Lester: "Let him get a good look, make it sexy. See if he follows." Sarah: "If he doesn't?" Lester: "Then you gave him a thrill. Come back." Sarah: "And if he follows?"

Darrow

2025-02-02 00:43:58 +0000 UTC

I'm with you, Royston, although I probably won't say toodle pip when I go.

Mark Albright

2025-02-02 00:42:00 +0000 UTC

Well, done full agreement. Thoughts on Mary and possible abuse of her from Sarah as her dark side grows?

Earl0849

2025-02-02 00:36:43 +0000 UTC

The reason for that Darrow, is in the alpha version there was no initial Otis leaving his gloves at the IT dept. scene. This scene was added after I pointed out that it would be very strange for Lester not to maintain control over a pawn in his game. Particularly as in the chapter where they were discovered by Otis in Sarah’s car it is implied at the end that Lester is going to contact Otis to make sure he understands who is in control. If you re-read that chapter you will see I am correct. What then happened is Don did not fully re-write the final Otis/Sarah sex scene to fit with the new scene he added at the beginning. The reason Otis doesn’t appear to realise that Lester has sent her is because Don hasn’t properly re-written the scene to fit with the earlier one he added to the final version. Another example of lazy writing, or perhaps, if I am being generous, hurried writing, by Mr Silver. See RJH’s excellent post above and my reply for more evidence of this in this chapter.

Royston smith

2025-02-02 00:33:23 +0000 UTC

Tom: 1) Otis fucking her 100% 2) Otis once fucked, continuing to fuck her 95% 3) Otis sharing her with some of his friends 75% 4) Fucking Richard because she's trapped and has no choice and it goes dark places. in a weird d/s humiliation degradation way. 75% 5) Fucking Richard to get her old job back 5% 6) Fucking Richard to get her old job back and actually getting it back 3% 7) Fucking Richard to get him to fire Mary - 2%. 8) Mary fucking Sarah in a dark, weird, demeaning d/s humiliation degradation way 45% 9) Richard and Mary trying to turn Sara into their sex toy. 60% 10) Jesse getting another shot at Sara's pussy. 35%. 11) Byron getting some more Sarah 20% 12) Vernon getting some more Sarah 15%. 13) Gang banging the DnD group back in Chicago 1%, put I would pay extra to see it happen. 14) Dan actually getting to fuck Sarah on his own, without supervision, interference, erectile issues, premature ejaculation, and Sarah having an orgasm. 0% I'm calling it.

Darrow

2025-02-02 00:27:47 +0000 UTC

Ghost Writer - At this point, Jesse is tops on my list of "murder Dan/Lester/Byron/All and get into a hostage situation with Sarah and the kids"

Darrow

2025-02-02 00:24:39 +0000 UTC

RJH sometimes someone else’s post can crystallise your own thoughts. You have done that for me. I wondered what bothered me so much about Dan’s scene. It just drifted with no real point to it. You have put it perfectly. I honestly think Don is playing his golden goose card way too much now. Dan must be very stupid if he thinks nothing will happen while Lester is in Middleton. And as Mark has said he doesn’t appear to even know he is in Middleton. He thinks he is in the apartment making a mess!!?? This is when you know you are being taken for a ride and the author is deliberately spinning out a story to make money out of you. He is writing by numbers now. In nearly one year we have had just 3 chapters of NE, which was supposed to run alongside TA as its long form brother. I am now losing patience with TA. Its the only story I have ever paid for and if Don doesn’t start giving us more respect I will cash in my chips and say toodle pip, and stuff your golden goose up your arse.

Royston smith

2025-02-02 00:16:15 +0000 UTC

I sure hope so. Otis needs to fuck her and possibly turn her onto his friends. I could also envision her fucking Richard to get her old job back, getting Mary fired and both of them shooting their loads onto her at the same time. A Chicago visit has to feature a weekend gang bang with his D & D group (which would really turn her on) I really like where this story is going

Tom

2025-02-01 23:44:04 +0000 UTC

Agree about the predictability and how Sarah has been reduced to a walking talking fleshlight. The dramatic tension is missing from the story.

LB

2025-02-01 23:39:15 +0000 UTC

If you can't even, why are you paying?

Darrow

2025-02-01 23:35:07 +0000 UTC

The weird thing is that if you read Dan's inner monologue, he's still completely into the cuckold fantasy, or maybe the cuckold reality. What bothers him is not that he's a cuckold but that he's getting left behind.

Darrow

2025-02-01 23:34:11 +0000 UTC

Felt the same about the ARNW sex marathon. Don still has his moments. Otis is slapping his dick down on Sarah’s tongue at the same time she’s speaking full sentences…

LB

2025-02-01 23:32:49 +0000 UTC

I don't think that Dan can take effective action on his own at this point. I think that what might reactivate him is Sarah needing him, having a crisis or emergency and reaching out to him.

Darrow

2025-02-01 23:32:26 +0000 UTC

MA - I am not bothered by the two day gap (Friday to Monday) in terms of what Lester might have done. I am more focused on what the hell is Dan doing sitting on his ass in Chicago? He knows that Lester is in Middleton!

Rjh200m

2025-02-01 23:11:03 +0000 UTC

I think it is. At this point, Sarah may just casually mention to Dan "I'm with Lester now" and not expect any objection. Or not care whether he objects. I can see her and Lester going back to the apartment in Chicago and her spending all her time with Lester. If Dan is good, they let him watch.

Mark Albright

2025-02-01 22:43:36 +0000 UTC

Is this the first chapter where there is no dialogue between Sarah and Dan? As Darrow has mentioned, Sarah is humming along without even thinking of Dan….and Dan is doing more ruminating than actually talking with Sarah…..

Rjh200m

2025-02-01 22:25:36 +0000 UTC

I think Lester is giving Sarah the permission to live out her slutty-slut persona without any of the guilt she felt with Dan. And she likes feeling like she is doing it because Lester told her to. The more he dominates her the more she likes it. With Dan she would deny being a slut. With Lester she proudly tells him "I'm your good little slut." No guilt, no regret, just pure slutty fun.

Mark Albright

2025-02-01 22:22:35 +0000 UTC

As to Darrow's analysis of Dan's work situation, you may be right, but I wouldn't know. I skim over the Dan at work part like DS' editor skims over the whole story. The only thing we need to know about Dan's work life is he's an incompetent screw-up, and is unlikely to ever accomplish anything.

Mark Albright

2025-02-01 22:07:47 +0000 UTC

The reason continuity is important is that the last chapter ends on a Friday night with Lester crossing another line by fucking Sarah in the house while the kids are there. If the next chapter starts on a Monday, then what the hell happened over the weekend? Did Sarah regret crossing that line over the weekend? You don't think Lester would have tried something else over two days time? Instead the author just pretends those two days didn't happen. It's an indication to me DS is just mailing it in now.

Mark Albright

2025-02-01 21:58:02 +0000 UTC

Earl0849, I think he's definitely overplaying his hand. He's being way too honest about 'owning' and 'breaking' her, and while it's sex talk... she's not always in heat. If you look at their earlier conversation, he's clearly worried about her getting suspicious, asking too many questions. She's showing persistence and stubbornness. If you look at the conversation, he's doing his best to keep her off balance, and preying on insecurities and vulnerabilities. But I think where he's overplayed his hand for real, is with Mary, and by extension Thornhill. I think if his life and Sarah's life gets complicated, that's where it's going to come from.

Darrow

2025-02-01 21:57:01 +0000 UTC

Dispite beeing well written and also Dons undisputed talent to deliver real hot sex scenes, it feels like the core of the story became a bit stale. It always was intoxicating to see Dan and Sarah struggle with desires, feelings and boundaries. Now they both seem to lose substance more and more. No strength, self esteem, care for their family, their love and their future. Just to succumb to carnal pleasures? Maybe that way it gets bit too cynical in a way…

Robert Schmidt

2025-02-01 21:53:32 +0000 UTC

And it doesn't seem to bother her.

Darrow

2025-02-01 21:52:55 +0000 UTC

There is so much interesting stuff to unpack here, all over the place, especially with what's going on with Sarah. It's fascinating to explore the different dynamics between Sarah and Otis and Sarah and Byron. Both times, she went into sexual submission and obedience and found it extremely arousing and satisfying when her partner took control. But in other ways, the two encounters are extremely different. With Byron, she was out on a mission for Dan and sex was not something he'd told her to do, but kind of invited with silence, and that she volunteered for 'if necessary.' If she could have planted the device and left with her panties on, she would have. But she was trapped and had to go through with it. In a sense, with both Dan and Byron, she was trapped into it. And perhaps because she was trapped, she resented it, and particularly resented Dan, she pulled away from him and towards Lester from that. And the mission failed, so there was a sense of failure and futility. Here, Otis was the mission, flat out. Straight up honest. That feels like it made a difference to her. She didn't feel nearly as conflicted or used. Lester was guilt tripping her for it, but in her own monologue, she talks about it as a fantasy scenario, something she wants or that excites her, even if she's too nervous to initiate. Her sense is that Lester is permitting or licensing her to do something she secretly wants... at one point she practically says that. She agrees to his request with a deep kiss. With Otis, she seemed to have much more power. Note that she chooses the location, she undresses to wait for him, she kneels deliberately. She's having a lot more fun and making more choices, and this excites her. She plays into the role. She responds to dominance with submission from both men, but weirdly, Otis is more playful with it. That whole cock slapping face thing, it's silly but she gets into it. One very interesting thing is Dan. The whole Byron thing happens in context of Dan, Dan's needs and desires, Dan's mission, Byron's desire to cuck and humiliate Dan, and even in the middle of sex, they're talking about Dan, play-talking to Dan, looking down on him in the street. It's almost too much for Sarah, while talking about Dan as a loser gets her to orgasm, having to look out the window at him is distracting from Byron's fucking. With Otis, Dan's not in the picture anywhere. He's not mentioned, there's no thought of him at all. Lester isn't even in the picture for her. Instead, for once, for Sarah, this whole sexual encounter is all about her, and it's practically fun and wholesome. He lets her play with his cock and do anything she wants, the way she wants at her pace. Titfucking is fun. Getting a facial is fun. Cockslapping is fun. At no point is he harsh or cruel or hurtful, either verbally or physically. He's totally totally into her. Even his dominance, when he facefucks her, is fun and she's totally into it. You have the sense that if she said "Ow!" or "I don't like that" or "stop" he'd back off. He sits down when she asks him nicely. His domination of her initially, ordering her to show herself or take off her bra is rooted in worship, the face fucking dominance, the tit fucking, dick slapping, its all desire. Ultimately, this sexual encounter is 1000% all about Sarah Williams, start to finish, all Sarah, all the time, Sarah, Sarah, Sarah, from showing off, to turning around on command, kneeling, posing, every moment is about her. Imagine, she finally has sex, and for the first time, her fucking husband is not physically or psychogically in the room with them. It's notable that she doesn't have an orgasm, or as far as I can tell, deep deep sexual pleasure. She's definitely turned on, she's aroused, she enjoys herself thoroughly. So much so that she doesn't really mind not having an orgasm. She's just had fun. She did come with Byron, orgasm delivered. But there's a whole lot of dark baggage there - complications, the mission, the mission failure, Byron's hatred and obsession with Dan, and ultimately Byron's ego. The encounter was, in a sense, not so much about Sarah, but about Byron. Byron the conquerer, nailing Sarah and humiliating her husband, while ruling over both. With Byron its dark and complicated, but dark. With Otis, it's practically wholesome. This is why I think she's going to seek out Otis again.

Darrow

2025-02-01 21:52:20 +0000 UTC

MV- that is the frustrating part for me. Dan has started realizing it but is incapable of solving it or just moving way too slow. Maybe work overload is the root cause.

Mkm560

2025-02-01 21:41:25 +0000 UTC

Darrow I agree in that part. Although Dan hasn't shown anything really. I'm wondering if does fight Lester strongly will that turn her on and back to Dan?

Mkm560

2025-02-01 21:40:37 +0000 UTC

Darrow, I agree but you didn't think there would be a build back of her from Lester and I think he will. I think he has already started. But as you said he may over play his hand.

Earl0849

2025-02-01 21:37:40 +0000 UTC

Elfy and Tim, do not criticise my friend Mark. Continuity is important, just as grammar and syntax is. It is also important that we observe consistency of narrative voice. For example, a fair number of you have recommended neighbour chronicles by avid reader novice writer on the chat as a rootin tootin, all dancing, rollicking good , hotwife story. While it is certainly a hot read for fans of the genre, it is spoiled for me by its weird adherence to jumping from 1st to third person and back again , even in one sentence! It is also overwritten to the point of ridiculousness. It rambles on an on and you want to scream at the page, wtf is going on? At one point Jack ( the equivalent of Lester in TA) fucks Amber (our Sarah) 14 times in a night! Would his cock still have flesh on it?? The authors moniker is truly appropriate. He is a novice writer. So, Don may have his faults, but at least the silververse is a tad more realistic than that.

Royston smith

2025-02-01 21:32:58 +0000 UTC

The thing that really annoyed me was when Dan was joining the dots when he was drunk, but on sobering up, he doubted all of his suspicions. It was a two steps forward, three steps back moment.

MV

2025-02-01 21:30:12 +0000 UTC

Earl0849. That deconstruction remark is very significant.

Darrow

2025-02-01 21:21:41 +0000 UTC

Dan feels like he's headed for some kind of collapse. Maybe he needs to hit some kind of bottom to bounce back, and he hasn't hit it yet. But at this point, he's become largely irrelevant to Sarah. You'll notice she doesn't even think about him at any point. The only time that Dan comes up between Lester and Sarah is when Lester mentions him while fucking her, and emphasizes how pathetic he is. And honestly, it's not all her fault. Dan physically removed himself from her life when he took the job, Sarah's struggled to keep the marriage going initially both sexually and financially and relationship wise. Functionally, Dan put Lester in her path, and the more Lester moved in, the more Dan retreated. Now she's basically floundering and under pressure at work, her life is complicated. Lester's the one who is there. Dan doesn't even call. He shows no interest in her life or needs, and he's not actually going anywhere. As far as Sarah's concerned, the marriage is on pause. Dan's no longer a factor. As to the Lester/Sarah sex, what I enjoy most is Sarah's growing adventurousness and depravity. Sometimes it feels like Lester's just running a few steps ahead of the tidal wave.

Darrow

2025-02-01 21:20:35 +0000 UTC

Again, all good points. Lester did tell Sarah that her body was her best asset. But I do go with RJ and his remarks about Dan & Sarah and the Idiot comment. I would expect that Lester will send Dan the tape of Sarah sucking Otis off just to anger him more. If this does occur it will be interesting how Sarh responds. If the story is going to stay on focus with what Lester is working toward then Dan must somehow get home to witness firsthand how far his wife has fallen. Live fucking with Lester and Otis and maybe Richard and Mary all under Lesters instruction. Sarah covered in cum totally out of control and Dan helpless. Winner Lester.

Earl0849

2025-02-01 21:18:47 +0000 UTC

I said this in the discord channel. For me, personally, to jeep this story rolling at the level it was, Dan needs a victory or to move faster. In the story I don't think much tome has elapsed s8n e the hotel room. Maybe a week or little more. But s8nce Ch22 Dan has ordered cameras and questioned the Lester/Jesse relationship and that storyline has made no real progress. I think Dan needs a big move soon.

Mkm560

2025-02-01 21:03:37 +0000 UTC

Let’s see - Dan is in Chicago trying to catch up on his emails, struggling to gather dirt on Lester, and agonizing over the night Sarah spent in the hotel room with Lester and Jesse….. Meanwhile in Middleton, Lester has fucked Sarah again in the house with the kids there, fucked Sarah in his office at the hospital and had her blow Otis in the hospital’s boiler room….. Looks like Dan is falling further and further behind…..it’s getting boring watching Dan flounder….what does he think is going on in Middleton with Lester and Sarah seeing each other all day? Can he be this stupid? Darrow - your analysis on Dan is very good, but the character of Dan has quickly become very disappointing. It’s also getting boring watching Lester and Sarah…..nothing is surprising anymore, it’s getting very predictable….. And Sarah’s internal thoughts are getting annoying…..yes, we know that her sexual urges dominate her thinking and determine her actions, we have seen this again and again…. As with Dan, the Sarah character has been dumbed down way too much, they both appear to be idiots at this point….. And it is frustrating to see chapter after chapter how Lester appears to outsmart everyone…..getting boring…..

Rjh200m

2025-02-01 20:56:12 +0000 UTC

No, I got that. I wondered about it, but it feels like a Red Herring. When Otis is with Sarah, there's no sense in his POV that he's colluding or operating with a permission. He just creeped after her, and found she was waiting for him. It's like something out of Letters to Penthouse Forum for him (did I date myself?) As he creeps after her, following her into the basement, he worries about getting caught and even getting fired. So he's not hunting with a license. Indeed, we've got this part of his inner monologue: "He didn’t give a fuck where that other guy was or what her deal was with him, but he sure as hell knew he’d be following her around the hospital much more often from now on." I find myself questioning the Timeline - Lester goes into his office, he calls for Otis, Sarah shows up, they go to the meeting, then they fuck, then Lester sends her after Otis.... Is there time for the meeting with Otis? Maybe the meeting with Otis where Lester dangles Sarah happens after the blow job encounter, in the future? Then again, the couch moves between the call and Sarah showing up. Or does it? Maybe it's there when they get back from the meeting? No, I think it's there when Sarah arrives. Lester's not the furniture moving type. So maybe Otis did show up. I'll have to re-read. Bottom line though, is that Otis is likely to be a sexual wild card - he wants more of Sarah, and she enjoyed it enough I think she's willing to be had by him, at least casually. And I can't see where Otis is going to be good at keeping his mouth shut. One random thought: Lester can definitely use a guy like Otis, who has stealth access to every single part of the hospital.

Darrow

2025-02-01 20:53:25 +0000 UTC

I love the part where Sarah notices Lester recording her. That part was hot.

KB

2025-02-01 20:29:54 +0000 UTC

You missed the bit at the beginning Darrow, when Lester contacts the maintenance dept. to say Otis has left his gloves in the IT dept. Otis obviously hadn’t left his gloves there but Lester wants to talk to him about Sarah. Lester must have promised Otis a piece of Sarah in return for his loyalty. Probably along the lines of you have to be my eyes and ears in the hospital in return for which I will get you access to Sarah.

Royston smith

2025-02-01 19:44:06 +0000 UTC

Hmm. This is interesting. There's a transaction here. That's got implications.

Darrow

2025-02-01 19:23:48 +0000 UTC

The dynamic between Lester and Sarah in the office is fascinating. Just finished the sex scene. One observation: People know she got fucked, or if they don't know, it's going to get figured out fast. The way the door and blinds close whenever she goes in to meet. The appearance of the Couch in Lester's office. And Sarah really has trouble keeping quiet. If she can hear people talking in a normal tone of voice, then the noise of her ass being slapped or her louder moans is going to be audible... particularly if people are listening for it. So what's the takeaway from it. Gorgeous married administrator is in a department she's unqualified for, clearly having an affair with her boss. Sarah's reputation is finished, it'll even be retroactively finished. Before her demotions, she had the reputation of being competent and capable. But was she ever competent and capable, really? When new management came in, she got demoted really quick, lost all her authority and ended up in a cubicle. Maybe, people will be thinking, she was really just fucking her old boss all that time. And when he got kicked out, she lost all her authority and responsibility... because she never really did it, wasn't really qualified, and only had her position on her back. Now, she's in another unqualified position, one everyone knows she's unqualified for. And she's on her back. The conclusions, and the reappraisal of her past are inevitable. And the word is going to filter through the hospital, slowly. It won't just be that she's having an affair, everyone has affairs. It will be that she's an office whore, unfit for her job, faking it all this time, trading her body. The cheating on her husband thing will make her look even worse in many peoples eyes. People will start to worry if the kids are even Dans. And when the affair with Otis (and possibly getting passed around) starts to get around, she'll be even worse regarded. No one will say anything to her face. But there'll be a steadily growing lack of respect, contempt, a disregard for her and her opinions, isolation from people previously friendly, and even passive aggressive remarks. In the longer run, it may affect her employability. Gossip gets around, people get a reputation. Unqualified bimbo / office whore might make it hard to get another job. But for the immediate, she won't notice. Her antics and risk taking even excite her. She's got Lester spinning her head in dozen different directions.

Darrow

2025-02-01 19:13:43 +0000 UTC

I'd like to see Jesse catching Sarah with Otis. Surely he would have to 'save' from that situation.! Right?

Chris K

2025-02-01 18:54:39 +0000 UTC

Personally, I like sluts, and I think they are good people. Sarah is definitely a slut and loving it, and she's still the hero of the story that I cheer for. Looks like the door with Otis has been opened wide and in such a way that it can't really be shut. Lester asked her to do it, but she never told Otis that she was acting on orders, she just gave herself to him and that was that. That's a major mistake, because now Otis owes no one, he's obligated to no one. He doesn't have to ask for, or beg or buy Sarah, or kowtow to Lester. She handed herself over. As far as he's concerned, this first won't be the last, and he'll insist on that. Not as far as rape, but in terms of being confident, aggressive and dominant. Sarah, on the other hand, enjoyed it thoroughly, with none of the second guessing herself or guilt or regret that she had with Byron. That's going to make it very easy for her to submit to Otis when he pushes. That, and Otis read her very fast and effectively. He understood her submissiveness and used it against her in very subtle ways that she really got into. He didn't even fuck her, didn't come in her, it was straight up oral service, but it totally worked for her and he used her. I think from this point on, she'll be at least semi-regularly fucking Otis, with and sometimes without Lester's knowledge. The thing with Otis, is he's almost completely an outsider - he doesn't connect to Dan, not even indirectly, he's got more connection to her and the hospital than he does to Lester. He's the side piece outside the rest of her life. As her life becomes complicated and stressful, I can see her welcoming that. I think she'll find herself seeking out Otis when she's had a bad day, just for a straight uncomplicated, no strings attached fuck. But I think there are downsides. I don't think Otis will be good at keeping secrets. And between him and Lester, her reputation at the hospital is going to slide into the toilet. I think you're right, there's a chance that Otis may end up sharing her. And I think that as the word about Sarah gets around, she'd going see more and more attention from Thornhill.

Darrow

2025-02-01 18:34:40 +0000 UTC

Good Stuff Darrow and I agree with every point. Does not appear we will be having a Hallmark Moment. My only question to you is can we agree that Sarah has now reached slut status and that every possibility is on the table?

Earl0849

2025-02-01 17:38:38 +0000 UTC

Only begun to read. I've stopped just before the sex starts, to put down some thoughts. Dan feels like he's literally disintegrating. He is not holding his life together on any level. In particular, his work life is literally falling apart. He's being overwhelmed with tasks, meets and emails. He's not picking up on it any more, but it's clear that under Walt the workplace is more disorganized and dysfunctional than ever. The fact that Dan's getting all these apparently irrelevant and tangential emails means people have left but there's been no clear reorganization, so their portfolios are just splashing around, their work is divided up non-systematically so others are supposed to pick up the slack. That's bad management, because spreading it around means no one is truly responsible for or has a handle on the former employee's work. Whatever gets done gets done poorly, or not at all. Meanwhile, the remaining employees are overloaded, more than necessary, and their own work is undermined. Walt's workplace becomes ever shittier, a drain on Dan's time and energy and a soul crushing waste. But Dan seems almost checked out, spending hours in the workplace on Discord, and simply ignoring things. He's literally becoming Kevin at the office, just drifting and indifferent. Meanwhile, he seems barely interested in his one outside client - Sentinel, who the last few chapters have been shown to be demanding and increasingly unhappy with him. This episode, he simply ignores their email. At home, he doesn't even bother with chores or maintenance, reasoning its Lester's mess. Well yes, it's Lester's mess, but he's living in it. His tolerance and disinterest is also a sign of personal decline. I imagine he's only shaving and showering for work. So what's he doing with his life? The only sign of initiative is an inept and floundering pursuit of Lester, but only in the vaguest most hopeless way. Even when he stumbles on an idea, like looking into Lester's past roommates, he doesn't seem to recognize it. He's like an aimless child picking up pieces of a puzzle but with no idea what to do with it. It's clear that he's always been dependent on Sarah to keep his life in focus, and without her he's lost. He as much as admits that. On the other hand, he won't reach out to her, even though he wants to. Self isolation is a symptom of depression. He seems paralyzed. He's coming to grips with the magnitude of her betrayal - the fact that she knowingly fucked Jesse, but also that she's okay with what Lester did. That's emotionally crushing. Crazily, one of his big issues is that he didn't get to watch. Whether this is his need to see Sarah degraded, or his embrace of cuck status, some of both I think, he's accepted his loss of control, he wants it all to happen, he just wants to be there for it. He's really conflicted, he wants his wife back and Lester defeated, but he's also on the threshold of accepting permanent subordinate status. He doesn't know what he wants. He's retreating into a vague ineffective passivity, with no real initiative or systematic goals. He just floats around vaguely, distracted by whatever distracts him, and goes through the motions. I think Dan is right on the edge of clinical depression. I'm actually surprised we don't see him drinking heavily. But then, we saw him mainly at the office. He's reaching rock bottom, and worse, he's basically been isolated from both Lester and Sarah. * Jesse's reappearance is a surprise. Unemployed again. That disaster with Lincoln Group must have been a whopper. Either that or he fucked up in some other way. Either is a good possibility. Jesse's puppy love thing makes him look harmless. I think he may be anything but. When we first met him, he was immature, arrogant, and a jerk. He was also a borderline rapist and a bit of a sadist. It's clear he's insecure and entitled. He's also weak, corruptible and not bright - if Dan can run rings around him that tells you all you need to know. That's who he really is. The fact that we learn he's unemployed is interesting. There's a sign of "life disintegration" there. The puppy love thing makes him seem nice. But... that kind of delusional, romantic fixation, complete with fiendish adversaries trying to keep their true love apart, is classic stalker behaviour. Or stalker murderer behaviour. It wouldn't be surprising if Jesse has a 'Taxi Driver' moment, where he shows up at Dan's door with a gun. Or Lester's. Basically 50/50. Whoever is within reach when he snaps. Given the pathology, he could show anywhere - Lester's apartment, Starbucks, Middleton, the Hospital, even Sarah's house. At this point, no one - not Sarah, not Lester, not Dan, neither Byron nor Peter, and not even the reader, is taking Jesse seriously. That could be a mistake. * Finally, there is Mary, who comes into the story as Sarah's self-appointed nemesis. Seriously, we've seen Mary before, but Mary hasn't really been hard on Sarah's radar. There was no conflict, the women didn't cross swords, there was no precipitating incident. Suddenly, Mary is just there, out of the blue, and she hates Sarah. That's very clear. There's been indications - Sarah's lost her office, been relegated to a cubicle, lost most of her duties, and eventually lost even her cubicle, and Mary's been very 'don't give a shit about your problems.' I tended to mark this as the new guard getting rid of the old guard, and Mary being particularly callous. But this encounter - Mary was continually on the attack on every front, looking for ways to belittle and insult her personally, undermining and humiliating her in the meeting, and ultimately nakedly saying 'get rid of her.' That's personal. That's really personal. Mary wasn't on Sarah's radar. But Sarah is massive on Mary's radar. She definitely wants to sink Sarah. There's something very extreme, very personal, to this animosity that Sarah's not aware of, doesn't understand but is vulnerable to. The only thing I can guess at is Jealousy. Mary is hooked up with Thornhill. Thornhill wants Sarah. Mary is threatened, wants the competition gone. Sarah is caught up in a love triangle she doesn't even know about. Even worse, both Mary and Thornhill seem like deeply nasty, deeply unethical people. They're both very good at demeaning and humiliating people, they both press across boundaries. Thornhill is open in sexual harassment. Makes me wonder what their sex life is like, I'd say possible S&M, but a lot of deep toxicity, manipulative games, fostering or getting off on inciting jealousy and vulnerability. Trying to peer into their relationship with the very few clues. Mary is completely dependent in her job on Thornhill, he gave it to her, he brought her in, he's given her all this power, but he can take it away in a heartbeat. This is a strange situation of a woman finding herself both nigh-all powerful, and utterly vulnerable and powerless. With Thornhill she's absolutely helpless, literally a captive. He can take everything away with a snap of his fingers. Given a man like Thornhill, as we've seen so far - a man who likes to humiliate, demean, sexually harass and get people under his thumb - I'm betting behind closed doors, he's a sexual monster, enjoying terrorizing, playing on insecurity, demeaning and degrading his victim. It's no surprise then, that with other people, with the power he gives her, Mary is queen bitch. She's got issues to work out, and a master to emulate, stress to work out, and Thornhill's approval for her worst behaviour. I think that she's addicted to Thornhill and what he does privately. She's emotionally trapped in an incredibly toxic and dysfunctional sexual and personal relationship. She wants him, needs him, suffers under him. No matter what he does, she keeps crawling back for more. She almost certainly idealizes and worships him, while being terrified of him on some level. She can't let go and can't escape. She's trapped, following him like a puppy wherever he dos. Of course, Thornhill might not allow her to go. If its as dysfunctional as it seems to be, he's the sort that might expressly wreck her life, if she ever tries to leave. And the type to threaten it. Leaving is just another bit of 'stepping out of line' after all. Mary might tell herself she loves Thornhill. Thornhill has no such illusions, and sees her as an emotional chew toy. I'm betting a lot of their sexual games now involve Sarah... specifically, Thornhill threatening to replace Mary with Sarah. Which leaves Mary with a white hot hatred for her rival. In a sense, we've got a similar dynamic to the opening chapters of Toxic Attraction, where a couple spice up their sex life fantasizing about a third person. But Mary and Thornhill are almost certainly terrifyingly toxic. They'd make the Lester/Dan/Sarah dynamic look health, life-affirming, fun loving and affectionate. Lester's 'pluck the wings off flies' sociopathy would be damned well wholesome compared to Thornhill's games. Honestly, I'd love Don Silver to write a chapter, or a portion of a chapter, focusing on Thornhill and Mary and their sex life. I think it would be incredibly hot. I'd probably also want to spend an hour in the shower after, scrubbing it off of me. Sarah thinks that Lester's confrontation with Mary will make her a bigger target. She knows Mary is vindictive and this will make things worse. It will. But it was always going to get worse. But the real fallout will be on Lester. Lester just made an implacable enemy. He publicly humiliated her. Even worse he threatened her with Thornhill, which is her great big giant open sore. And he came to the rescue of her nemesis. Even worse, Thornhill, when he learns will almost certainly use Lester to torture Mary. The one thing he loves to do is demean and humiliate. He'll use the threat of Lester to push her buttons. I think Mary's going to have a white hot hatred for Lester, and be looking for any opportunity for revenge, including watching him like a hawk. She will almost certainly find out about the affair with Lester, which means Thornhill will too. And she'll find out about Otis, which means Thornhill too. She'll try to leverage this against one or both of them, possibly separately, picking the weaker target - Sarah. And if Thornhill thinks Sarah is vulnerable, he'll move on her himself. Toxic? Maybe we haven't seen anything yet.

Darrow

2025-02-01 15:50:40 +0000 UTC

Just as long as Jesse doesn’t win anything

Ghost Writer

2025-02-01 13:57:14 +0000 UTC

It was a wasted month, nothing happened that was worth it. And now we have a slut story.

Michael Haase

2025-02-01 10:53:16 +0000 UTC

True

Michael Haase

2025-02-01 10:50:58 +0000 UTC

True, the original focus of the story was Dan's cuckhold fantasy. Sarah teasing Dan with Lester was the real dynamic. Now Dan is basically out of the story, the marriage breakup inevitable, the original erotic lure is gone. I thought at some point Lester was going to use his financial power to reduce Dan to some level employee, cleaning his home / car, putting Sarah in charge of supervising Dan, making sure he gets his chores done, but it looks like that opportunity is no longer available. Now Sarah wants to be a slut, to use her power as a female God to control men, maybe even Lester. So now we have a slut story, currently under Lesters control. Dan's role is over, Jesse is some sort of tease, Lester is her power fuck, and any man is her target. The erotic conflict is over.

Michael Haase

2025-02-01 10:47:05 +0000 UTC

On my view, the story is now circling around with good sex scenes but no more thrill like in the earlier chapters I got that Don is balanced between finishing the story and leaving behind the cash flow versus prolonging it without real additional value. Again from my perspective this story should be ended soon either with Sarah pregnancy or separation with Dan or anything Don has in mind but new chapters cannot only duplicate all Sarah sex adventures indefinitely (Excuse my English btw)

King40

2025-02-01 09:21:59 +0000 UTC

Give us a good evil ending, most stories always end with the husband somehow getting upper hand and shit, tired of that.

Cipherz

2025-02-01 05:16:46 +0000 UTC

I’m also enjoying your stories

Chris N

2025-02-01 04:13:02 +0000 UTC

Yea we read this for the continuity and the office politics with Mary...

tim

2025-02-01 02:42:36 +0000 UTC

Never!

Earl0849

2025-02-01 02:18:58 +0000 UTC

Are you actually taking this seriously? Oh man, I can't even

Elfy

2025-02-01 02:05:49 +0000 UTC

This story is so far from anything resembling realism, even within its own universe, that i could literally care less what happens. This story is nothing more than a grift to help Don's weirdo discord members get off. Its so dumb and preposterous. I'll give him credit for writing a half way decent sex scene, but beyond that, this is complete horseshit. And y'all know it. This has been going on what now, 2 years?

Elfy

2025-02-01 02:03:21 +0000 UTC

Continuity lol. There is no continuity. It's hilarious you think so

Elfy

2025-02-01 02:02:05 +0000 UTC

Need more Dan in the story being directly tormented

Vagabond

2025-02-01 00:08:46 +0000 UTC

I like to notice things like that, but it's been a while since I read 25. Well spotted

Terminal Itch

2025-01-31 23:11:34 +0000 UTC

Doesn't anybody read this for continuity? The last chapter ended on a Friday night, and this one picks up on a workday (Monday) and Sarah is thinking about Lester being at her home the night before. Also, Dan is regretting Lester being in the apartment all the time, yet he's clearly not. And this chapter moves us no closer to a conclusion. Having said all that, really hot sex scenes as Sarah moves closer to becoming Lester's full-time girlfriend. She will be wearing his ring all the time now and she told him she loved him again. I don't know why he's still planning to trick her into getting pregnant. I think she will gladly have his baby now.

Mark Albright

2025-01-31 22:57:57 +0000 UTC

I think this is the appropriate time for those of you hoping for a "Happy ending" to hop off the train, now.

Jon Smith

2025-01-31 22:14:56 +0000 UTC

I mean, winning in this sort of way would be, he gets her pregnant but she doesn't know. Has a cardiac episode and dies. Because she's part of the IT department they discover how lax Lester was and how horrible everything was being managed so they fire her and everyone. Then she finds out she's pregnant. Goes home to Dan but he doesn't trust her anymore, so they divorce.

Roleplay Literate

2025-01-31 22:09:25 +0000 UTC

I love the word deconstruction. So much so that I spend the last 15 minutes looking at different definitions. The Deconstruction of Sarah Williams as a professional. What could this mean as a mother? As a daughter?

Earl0849

2025-01-31 21:35:11 +0000 UTC

Third, though I finished it about an hour ago. Will read again

Terminal Itch

2025-01-31 21:29:42 +0000 UTC

Well that was good but way to leave us hanging there. I'm guessing there's more about Dan in the next chapter. Poor guy is really trying. It's not fair, even if he did kinda start it. Now, Sarah is just straight up cheating.

Roleplay Literate

2025-01-31 21:18:10 +0000 UTC

Disappointing… just disappointing

Jackfrost

2025-01-31 20:55:12 +0000 UTC

I think at this point the best possible outcome for them is Lester dying while he’s fucking her or something. Even then tho I want Lester to win and he gets her pregnant before he dies lol. Either way I’m here for Lester getting her pregnant and winning.

Chris N

2025-01-31 20:47:31 +0000 UTC

2nd 🤪

Slick

2025-01-31 20:37:36 +0000 UTC

First lol

Chris N

2025-01-31 19:51:54 +0000 UTC