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(Uncensored Video) The Life of a Tayvis Showgirl: First Thoughts On TS12

We're so back divas. Back harder than we ever were before. In today's episode, New Heights is the topic du jour: Taylor Swift makes her podcast debut with her boyfriend, Travis Kelce, and they get into some nonsense that needs to be corralled by his brother, Jason. Most importantly: we learn more about The Life of a Showgirl. Very much Max Martin, and no Jack Antonoff at all. Tune in for our unfiltered first reactions. 

Comments

I just read some TS12 theories on SwiftlyNeutral Reddit and I don’t think you two are doing enough meth math in this video. Do better.

Jacqueline Hernandez

Does anyone know when the signed versions typically dropped? I’ve never been able to snag a signed copy and it’s my goal to do it this time!!

Kenna

Some say, they never left. 💀

Kylee

Those deluxe cds 🤣 I literally went out of my way to get one, shipped to my friend in Germany because her store doesn’t ship to where I live. I got the standard cover because everything sold out 🫠 I go onto the store, oh they’re all back… if I waited a day I could’ve gotten the other cover lmao 🙈 I don’t want to sound ungrateful because I really am excited to get my hands on it, to have something that is a nice set from her store, I guess I just thought after all the TTPD backlash she wouldn’t do this limited release nonsense just to restock it 🙃 Sooo to anyone who missed out, they’re back 🧡

Bianca

So I completely disassociated trying to watch this the first time; I’m re-watching it right now… You guys, Travis is hot. 💀 I’ve never actually cared to listen to him speak before (I know people are into sentient purses, but I prefer mine to just look pretty 🤫) ‘I had never experienced something so mesmerizing on stage, and then something so real and beautiful in person.’ Well first of all, trust me Trav, we know but also STOP IT. 🥹 Damn it, where are my pills?

Kylee

On Travis talking too much at times …I actually don’t think he did this consistently. There were a couple of times that seemed more like awkward moments than him trying to dominate. I think this was maybe the best example I have seen in my lifetime (I am old) of two men offering and holding space for a woman and allowing her to express herself on her terms. Should it be that rare? - “no”, does Taylor deserve this and more? - “yes” But this was an important step. May not be your cup of tea or absolutely perfect , but Kelce brothers are (and have been since before Taylor entered) the best example of traditionally “manly” men exemplifying non-toxic masculinity around. Those two consistently center women when they have a chance and it seems really natural. Their mom was the breadwinner and they acknowledge it out loud. Even more rare, they are also able to honor their father in an authentic way (even more rare given their parents are not a romantic couple anymore and haven’t been). Maybe not for you, but representation of this type in this space is vitally important for many other audiences. Circling back to Taylor, it’s cool that she was willing to take her seat and advance the narrative. For certain audiences, they would never even glimpse this sort of dynamic (or anything close) so good on all of them for doing the work. Are we hyper focused on Taylor? Yes and nothing at all wrong with it and we got such a gift, but they all also did such a favor for the world with this (really don’t think that’s hyperbolic). Cheers to all!

KattyAnn

This song could be such a gag...

Ilina Jha

Okay so no Speak Now mentioned but it's it just me or does the bit of orange on the main cover give KOI FISH and the green with her like a mermaid in the koi fish pond?! It's also very "2 lost souls swimming in a fish bowl" aka Pink Floyd

VK

lol would also love any lana/ethel crumbs 👀

K

i like the idea of the cover but her neck and shoulders and face proportions looks so awkward to me it throws me offfff

Katie Rose

I know it’s Taylormania but Ethel and Lana are fighting lol

Ohdearjon

Thanks for all the content !

1quarter of a meatball

I have no clue what this means for the song but… Opal and Opalite are not the same thing, Opalite is a man-made glass made to mimic Opal. A man-made version of a gem, not the real thing? This could be a cook in a way I cannot comprehend.

Romeo Shaw

25:14 that picture being in one of the rooms from the delicate video made me audibly gasp

Bee Slaughter

I called in to phone a snake many months ago saying I’m praying for an album with “bangers” so hearing them say it so many times revived me 🙂‍↕️🤩

Jack

It was quadruple.

Kalyn

omgggg yesss!!!

Void Vanderwall

This exactly!

Sam Martinez

I would love a reaction video to how gaylors are reacting rn 😭

Julia

about the ophelia song, i think it's going to be about being the actress. on stage you embody this woman who's driven insane and dies... and then you exit stage left and you have your real life.

Mick

As someome in the industry i think its important to point out strippers are some of the original show girls. the titles feel really relatable to me😃 but stripper culture and reference usually get unnoticed by mass culture, onky subtle clues get woven in

Juby

The very different ideas about what Wood could be about are going to be so funny to look back on once we hear it 😂 it could be literally anything lol

Abby

This is such a good point!!

Naomi Hyde

…including content about the re-recordings! And buying back the masters!! As in, everything going on behind the curtain of the eras tour!!! PLEAK!!! ❤️‍🔥🫶❤️‍🔥

Aleesha Hunter

Call me delusional, but I think an eras tour doc is more likely than ever - paired with The Life of a Showgirl album only 12 tracks nothing more??! No bonus tracks, no extended edition, no surprise drop second half …not even a 13th track!? GIVE US THE DOC!!! 🙏

Aleesha Hunter

In the Gaylor group I joined on FB years ago to get the tea, it's almost dead silent. Just a couple posts (but maybe they're despairing in the private chat dedicated to Travis that I haven't joined), and one was about how they should ignore the things being said in the interview that don't align with what they know to be true because--get this--there was evidently a Mickey Mouse figurine or something on one of the shelves in the background, and he's covering his eyes. I mean, the denial is real. I'm queer myself, but come on. Get a grip, ladies. 🤣

Shannon S.

The limitation to 12 songs, not 13 not 14, just 12, i see as a slap in everybody's face, like "oh you think I cannot be crisp and narrow all this down to just a few songs? you are dead wrong and let me show you". This woman needs to know that everybody knows she can do it 😅

maryna

Honey - Mariah Carey coded?

Cathy Spyr

I feel like Wishlist is going to be about how Travis checks all of her boxes

Cathy Spyr

Agree! 🫶

Aleesha Hunter

Yep yep yep!

Aleesha Hunter

I’m sorry …it’s over for me… 🍷 👅 💊 LONG LIVE TAYVIS!!!

Aleesha Hunter

Madeline's eyeshadow looking especially cunt today!!! It's giving that bronze evermore dress she retired early for some reason I will never understand 🤎

Lia Russo

Honey song of the year. I'm saying it now

COLBY DEPTULA

The fact that all 3 of them got grins on their face when she said "wood" worries me...

COLBY DEPTULA

Wood is slang for arousal and the manhood....

COLBY DEPTULA

Its a little reminiscent of Marie Antoinette for sure

Michelle Forge

I like your theory about eldest daughter. She's the rebel paving the way for Tay-daughters, but she might feel a little resentful about it

Michelle Forge

Any Gaylor left after watching that is certifiable. Like medication needed. We've seen them both act. They are not actors. No way is that an act😂😂😂

Leslie M

See I think Joe alwyn found dead in a ditch and turkey cooked obviously, but u bet he looks at stuff like this and it’s his worst nightmare and I don’t think it’s a good idea to be this public as a couple unless it’s permanent

Shravya Katapally

Taylor is an exaggerator and a dramatic live in the moment person so I’m not surprised she said that about Max and Shellback being her favorite collaborators. She’s gonna say the same thing about Jack or Aaron in the future, or whoever she works with.

April Brookshire

You guys should do an episode pontificating about the possibilities and significance of Ophelia and Elizabeth Taylor!

Lauren S.

i don’t think so

Ricky Haynes

Madeline I love the same to covers you do, it’s so rep and I’m a rep Stan (under speak now) and this is soooo rep coded!! Say that!!!!

Mia Mar

Opalite- they talked about that first time she went onto the pitch after Travis won and she was wearing the Opalite earrings. So I’m thinking love pop glitter gel pen So High School Vibes Oldest Daughter- maybe industry coded not family coded Wi$h Li$t- I think masters coded maybe the two s’s scooter and Scott My thoughts so far. The others no clue but I’m ready 👏🏻 for 👏🏻 it 👏🏻

JaneyB93

The font for some reason gives me Sofia Coppola vibes idk

erin

So I noticed in the CD variant packs that that the Frightening set comes with/ a “wood” heart charm that has a red glitter finish. So each of these charms align to a track.

🪩🐍Sha’ya🐍🪩

From a mastermind perspective: The haters will always hate. But I think her doing this podcast in the way she did is a really good way of grounding her as a normal person who is passionate about her art. She’s not putting out another record because she’s “the monster on the hill.” She’s doing it because she loves it. And this was the best way for her to connect with sports fans and say “yes I know you’re sick of seeing me, but please know I respect the thing that you love and I don’t want the media to do what they’re doing either.”

Elle Kaye

Yeah, also Tay was a guest on THEIR podcast. I respect them for treating her like pretty much and other guest, and I respect her for understanding she’s on THEIR platform talking to a lot of THEIR audience. (It’s a sports podcast, so she should talk about sports lol.)

Elle Kaye

Very excited for this album! Also love how TTPD to Showgirl is almost exactly mirroring the Red to 1989 process: we know that Red and TTPD are spiritual sisters, and they're very messy, chaotic, sprawling queens - and while we love them for it, this is what the critics didn't like so much. So after Red didn't win Album of the Year at the Grammys, Taylor made a tight, bulletproof pop album - and we're seeing the same happen here with TTPD (which also didn't get the Grammy) to Showgirl. And considering 1989 went on to win Album of the Year...maybe we're looking at a 5th win? Obviously we need to hear the album and see if it really is as good as she's saying it is, but still 👀👀

Ilina Jha

great video! getting some slight chats and reacts shade :) anyone else?

splendidvie

It comes out a week after my Birthday!!

Baleigh Weirum

Also Natalie Wood was good friends with Elizabeth Taylor

Justice

Right! There are so many great songs where if you just read the lyrics you would never listen to it...

Abby

Wood makes me think Natalie Wood. Interestingly Lorelei Gilmore gets compared to NW a lot

Justice

I thought it was funny you called Jason Kelce the next Diane Sawyer and then almost immediately after that, their interview derailed and went on so many pointless tangents!

Charlie

As someone raised by a George Michael stan, that was my first thought too - and if that's the inspiration I'm cheering!

Abby

Father Figure. Hands shaking. Tears falling. I wipe the dust off the old 45, and know exactly how I'll get through the next seven weeks. Be still my heart

Mel

CANCELED! is probably about Trump given that she said 47 so many times at the beginning of the interview and his tweet saying "I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT!" was also in all caps with an exclamation point. She took the time to show that it was capitalized and had an exclamation point, so it's clearly something she wants people to think about.

Shannon S.

I thought that "Wood" said "Weed" at first 😆. My favorite thing she said was when Travis was asking how on earth she made this record while on tour, and she said something along the lines of, "I can't help it. I love music." 🥹

C. Johnson

The best part of this interview was getting to see her being loved out loud and proud. Finally, a man who can set aside his own ego and just support and hype her up. The part where they talked about online chat over their relationship was so revealing. Again, finally a man whose day isn't ruined by a story about him and her. Fck Matty and Joe for both being so weak. Also, I have a theory that you guys are weirded out by her PDA with Travis because you started liking her when you were so young and she was so young that it's tricky for you to see her as a fully sexual grown adult who is doing grown adult things. Like when a child star transitions into an adult star, it can be really hard to make that transition successfully in the eyes of the audience.

Shannon S.

Fun fact: The picture of her all in pink was taken where some of "Don't Worry Darling" was filmed, and Dita Von Teese was in that film.

Nia

I think the stone song one is about Travis. I hope this album is about her being happy honestly, like I need TS happy vibes

loulou

I really liked New Woman by Lisa (production wise) and a lot of Max’s moments on Hurry Up Tomorrow are pretty good in my opinion. I am veryyy excited for a Taylor Max Martin album

CC

Just say it babe lol it's possibly about the messy blake lively (however she wrote it while in Europe tour leg so likely not unless she added things after).

loulou

Re: end of podcast, the last few minutes were interesting because Jason asked a great question and she went off about saying in her career she never let herself feel like she had made it...until the Eras tour!

Bryn

Travis was making me so mad lol, he kept cutting her off and speaking over her😫 babe we are not here for you

Lexi

I also do not understand people wanting to see lyrics out of context! Like can you imagine reading the lyrics for something like Espresso and then forming an opinion that it was a bad song before hearing it?!

Rachel

The 30 Rock references bringing me joy. 😍

Ryley

The final 20 minutes you missed of the New Heights pod cast, Taylor discussed why she came up with the idea of arriving in a mop cart to shows and why that was important, and when she felt like she had "arrived" as a pop star. I thought those were interesting answers.

Deb

25:15 I WISHHHH this was just the cover…. It’s so gorgina

charisma

It’s giving mermaid

Christina Ingham

I live for this time! Thank you divas ❤️‍🔥

Marissa

This is the only moment where I don’t find a single thing I don’t like about the album cover and photos. It’s all AMAZING I’m literally silenced

Abby Voelk

WAITTT UR COOKING

Patrick

I know we're very appropriately focused on Taylor right now but I need need NEED your thoughts on the Lana Ethel drama sometime. I saw it this morning and just could not stop laughing And, just as an aside, can you imagine if the roles were reversed here and Taylor got into some high profile beef the night that Lana was announcing her album? People would be deeeeeemented

Rachel

I need to state that WI$H LI$T could be about $cott and $cooter because it wasn’t over and getting her fucking bag instead oh them

Ohdearjon

You need to watch the New Height's episode when Kylie Kelce was the guest to understand why Jason was "lead questioning" Taylor. When Kylie was on the show, Travis was "leading the questioning". They both ask good questions of guests, and switch it up based on role with the guest. Travis reigns Jason in more often than him reigning Travis also fyi.

Deb

The font feels very deliberate to me, I still haven’t quite connected the dots in my head, but I’m just going to give some keywords + statements I’m seeing as of now, walk with me…. She’s leaning into the 90s/00s aesthetic which is so interesting because when you hear ‘showgirl’- I would think instinct wants to go to 1920s flapper era/ICDIWABH aesthetic. But this feels more like the 1995 Showgirls and actually if you look at the promo photos from the movie and do a side-by-side comparison the vibe is there. I know that I am seeing this glitter font somewhere in my head from somewhere else. It’s unlocking a memory for me that I can’t quite connect yet but if you compare it to the font used for the movie Fight Club, it’s almost identical to that. Now I am not one to go into these weird conspiracy, rapid holes, but if you were even to make connections to what in the world, a showgirl could have in common with the movie fight club, there’s actually some commentary to be had as far as it’s deeper themes of duality of oneself. But this is me just me meth mathing hard. I’m actually obsessed with us album cover. It’s giving Fiona Apple, it’s giving Blank Space Taylor if she was an album cover— I am an all in delusional girly, and I don’t care who knows it. She had me at Tim McGraw, and I’ve earned the right to make such bold statements. 🫶

Kylee

Is it not demented how much End game sounds like it's about tayvis? She's a witch

Anastasia Sapronova

i'm a man hating lesbian icb im kinda low key tayvising after that interview......

Momo

i saw someone say that eldest daughter might be in the context of the industry? like she's the guiding light for all these younger pop girlies

Momo

I have a seedling of an idea as to what opalite could be. It's a man-made stone that's blue-ish teal color, but when you look through it at light it glows orange (album colors????) Verging on meth math here, but I feel like this song will be an exploration of the duality in her life onstage and backstage

hurricane val

I love every cover art. The It's Frightening one, climbing over the chairs? Obsessed. It's so cat, neo-noir like. I'm SO STOKED. I feel like Beth Garrabrant always does a great job with her photos but THIS is SO visually appealing and dramatic with Mert & Marcus. The same people who worked with reputation visuals? UGH gagged. I also feel like every cover art compliments the other and contributes to the overall vibe of the album. I can't waitttttt to LISTEN

Leah Rose

Can’t wait to meet you guys in London ❤️💚🖤 Happy new era ❤️‍🔥

Em

You’re so right I thought this too

Lindsay

I hope it heals whatever Lorde's Favourite Daughter broke in me 😅.

Satu

Thank you to you both for all of the content!! We appreciate y’all 🫶🫶

Erin Howell

TTPD tracklist release/reaction!

Erin Howell

Thank you for everything you dooo!!!!

Brooke Guido

Love you Zach and Madeline!!!!

Brooke Guido

Can someone tell me which video Zack thought it was “Footnote” and “Fresh Out the Summer”

charisma

I don't know how to explain this but this kind of felt like a "meeting the parents", she was constantly talking him up, saying how supportive he is, etc. It's like she saw how much people not liking Ratty Healy took over her fanbase and how much impact it had and this felt like her getting ahead of it. Not that she needs our approval from a personal side but now that he's part of the image it wouldn't hurt if he had good "approval ratings". I don't know if this is too cynical but that's how I read it lol

Ella

You know what I just thought, it would be so her to make sure that whenever the 1975 released an album to be there and overshadow them

J

A good boss takes into consideration their employees schedules 😅🙏. October 3rd can't come quick enough!

Satu

I'd say depending on how long Sabrina's album is chart topping during september we could possibly see a single but if Sabrina is still going strong with a number one i dont think taylor will do the single just cause al the "why is this evil greedy girl blocking sabrina"

flwd

Travis has been doing the brand deals and promos since long before Taylor came along. He’s very entrepreneurial like Taylor in that way.

Erin S

Jason does drive most of the podcast… mainly because he’s not primarily playing football now and also because he’s had more experience there between his brief late night show on ESPN and his job as a football commentator.

Erin S

The last 20 min missing from YT was a glitch. It’s there now.

Erin S

youre so right, the libras are clapping and cheering

hayleywilliamsmademegay

Ok last comment and I’ll submit to phone a snake too but I’d love a ranking and reshuffling prediction before the album even comes out so that when you do the real one post listen + marinate it can be a keke

Kat

poor Scott swift... first his prostate is getting sucked out of his ass by a robot and now a qunituple bypass

Noah B.

Eldest daughter has got to be about paving the way for pop

Kat

Wood makes me think of “he was the hothouse flower to my outdoorsman”. Versus the Travis being a tree or something. 🤣

Trish Veneziano

first time being behind the paywall during a release thank you for all this glorious food snakes

hayleywilliamsmademegay

Did anyone clock when Taylor was talking about Travis laughing at the headlines/news stories about them and that relaxes her or whatever👀👀👀

Kyla

I’m not endeared bc he’s taking too much space. I love that she’s supported but I can’t with the men

Mikee Dayrit

I really hope Sabrina is Lana snow on the beached

Sarah

It was truly everything and more and I’m so excited ❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥 also you snakes are FAST with the content so thank you sm for feeding us!!

Jocelyn

I’m convinced Father Figure is gonna clock Scott Borchetta — if not, I have no clue what it could be

Elle Kaye

I am going to claim wood. I think it’s going to be a gag, because I get absolutely nothing from the title and anything I get is going to be more than nothing. Eldest daughter? Not feeling optimistic about that one in terms of it being a track 5, TBH.

Sarah Crawford

🎶I’ve got, Opaaaaallite, one look at you and I can’t disguise, I’ve got….🎶

Kylee

Maybe I’m delusional but I feel like Travis’s hoodie saying oracle must mean something

Kat

I was just going to say, that is way too much American man in one place, not to mention a Midwest American man which is where I’m from. These are the type of straight boys I got to pick from to date growing up. 💀 Also, mid 30 millennials are going through this weird sourdough phase, I wouldn’t know.

Kylee

Madeline you look GORGINA this eyeshadow with the hair and the glowy skin I’m SAT🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️

Kat

The font and the cover is soooo inspired by Sofia Coppola’s Marie Antoinette IMO and I L I V E

Elle Kaye

I never thought one of the best interviews she’s ever done would be brought to us by two football bros 💀

Melissa Simmons

I think the font is marquee-like. Not my fav, but it makes sense to me.

Ally ❤️

claiming honey !!

sullivan meaghan

a friend of mine suggested it be a title-less cover like folklore and I thought that would’ve been nice too vs. this font

Natalia

I saw talk about this (her being in Sweden between shows) last summer so I'm guessing people do! I assumed they were chatting shit lmao but apparently not

Abby

The variants will come back, it's a marketing tactic (percieved scarcity drives demand) aka MONEY PWEASE

Sarah

"if i'm gonna scream, i wanna hear chats and reacts scream, not jason kelce" lmaooo my swiftie creator faves <3

grace, esq.

Ooooooo madeline, your eyeshadow 😍❤️‍🔥

Elizabeth Williams Contreras

I’m saying Elizabeth Taylor best song ever r

S

How did no one realise she was flying to Sweden every week. Don’t people like stalk her jets flights online

Nicola

travis not knowing red but getting to listen to the new album is insane

jessica

The first thing I thought of when I read Wood is “he stuck his long wood into my redwood forest and let his sap ferment my roots” 😭😭😭

S

At first I thought she said Would instead of Wood but when I read the track list I was like huh

S

Tayvis pilling

Sarah

I believe also in lover (the song)

Sarah

ive been sitting on the fact i do enjoy the rerecords a little more bc i love how she sounds vocally bc i didnt want to get sh0t but thank god she said it 😹😹😹😹😹

Jomazel

TS12 is coming, lana is beefing with Ethel Cain, the vinyl is only 29 dollars, Sabrina collab, life is worth the living

Noah B.

This is honestly the best place to be 🥹

rikuneko

I’m like the same age as Taylor and even I was like “I shouldn’t be seeing this amount of pda from her, it’s not right, it’s just not right” because she has NEVER not since like Calvin Harris, and I do not count that 😭 because she was in her 20s 😭 she’s like a full grown woman now and I’m so happy for her! It is amazing to see her literally glowing. I can’t WAIT for my orange vinyl. The photoshoot INCREDIBLE.

lisam

Ballet was done during enchanted xoxo former ballerina

Kat

jason kelce contains multitudes

maeve

after Joe was workin at the yogurt shop to make a “little money “Taylor says Travis sweetie honey we need you to be spon-conning errrrvything and topping them podcast charts so you can be buying me dinner every now and then pwease!😂💀🫶🏻❤️‍🔥

lottie

I feel like she didn't mention debut and reputation so the meth mathers wouldn't go crazy again and take it as a sign that they will be published anytime soon (or ever)

Jenny

How am I supposed to work today

Nicole Glennon

Flying to Sweden to make an intimate album with Max Martin? Ariana’s daughter confirmed

Zacarias Lopez

with you i swim, with you i serveeeee

Tom

I'm really hoping we'll get a single but I have a sinking feeling that we'll have to wait until Oct 3 & I'm not really okay with that- I want to hear something by the end of August.

Beth

food so good here, everything to smile about in my life

seal ੈ♡‧

SLAY THANK YOU FOR THE FOOD

Danielaaaa

not the nordic allegation revealing to be true

SOFIA AGUECH

Good morning girls ❤️

Maddie Kohutka

IM SO READY

isobel


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