November Loose Ends Reader Mail
Added 2023-12-08 20:52:17 +0000 UTCHowdy Partners! In 3-4 hours Tom will be conducting the months livestream! Over the past few weeks the following news break:
- AMD Zen 4 Threadripper Launched
- AMD Hawk Point & Strix were (mostly) Revealed
- Intel Meteor Lake's (underwhelming) Performance Leaked
- Intel 64 Core W-3595X Leaked
- Extensive Zen 6 Venice Leaks
- Near Confirmation that Zen 6 will be supported on AM5
- Tons of drama emerge surrounding Nvidia's GPU Shipments
- Confirmation of RTX 5000 Laptop Release Timeframe
- Tons of GPU and CPU deals continue to pop up!
You know the drill! Write in below with your questions and thoughts on recent news, and feel free to ask Tom ANYTHING about upcoming products and this month's holiday sales!
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Hypothetically speaking, if there was an AM5+ socket with 8 or 16 additional PCIe lanes or additional memory channels, but processor packages were still compatible with both AM5 and AM5+ would that be seen by the tech community as abandoning the AM5 platform?
nijiko13
2023-12-09 01:50:04 +0000 UTCHi Tom, I plan to upgrade to Blackwell next year. Is 4090 levels of performance under 300W realistic, optimistic, or impossible for this Architecture?
UwUThatOneGuy
2023-12-09 01:43:00 +0000 UTCHi Tom... Is there any whisper about AMD dipping into ARM SoC, something related to the Samsung Exynos with RDNA IP but more involved?
Dark Side of the Force
2023-12-09 01:38:57 +0000 UTCHi Tom. I know you said wait but I couldn’t help myself. I needed a new gpu and sapphire pulse 7900xtx at $820 was too hard to pass up. Do you know anything about flight simulator 2024 coming next year that should concern me? The current one does not have any ray tracing and I haven’t seen anything on this topic for the new one. Assuming they add it, do you think it would be a less taxing form than games like cp2077?
Dark Helmet
2023-12-09 00:43:47 +0000 UTCInteresting that Intel dropped AVX512, likely imo due to the insane thermal complications and outright shutdown of their older chips when inadequately cooled. Whereas AMD is going full stream ahead with AVX512 implementation(albeit interestingly not as performant as Intel, especially when seen in Emulation E.G. RPSC3) Question: As of 2022, games such as Uncharted LoThieves require AVX2. Do you think it’s just happenstance that newer games are using more complex instruction sets and we’ll see possibly AVX 512 requirements in games in the next couple years? This could be the next big catalyst in gaming between AMD vs Intel In my opinion, if games DO begin having significant performance optimizations coming from more utilization of the intensive AVX calculations, multiple years of intels high end desktop chips may very well age significantly quicker in the gaming scene. Pushing more to adopt AMD for a perceived fine wine* in the CPU space.
Travis Gooding
2023-12-08 23:07:40 +0000 UTCHey Tom, this is more of a general question: what kind of technology or product are you looking forward to the most in 2024? Maybe Zen 5, RDNA 4, Blackwell or perhaps something else entirely?
Dave Scholze
2023-12-08 22:52:07 +0000 UTCHello Tom could you give us an estimate how is the development of nodes beyond N4 progressing in Intel? What is the perception of N4 so far. What are the costs and yields?
QuickJumper
2023-12-08 22:41:12 +0000 UTCWith that crazy Navi 41 design being almost certainly cancelled does that mean Navi 42 and 43 will be monolithic or will they separate the memory controllers again like Navi 31 and 32? And will AMD dare to call them 8900/8900XT without actually having a high end model?
coladict
2023-12-08 22:31:06 +0000 UTCPhoenix and Meteor Lake have an AI accelerator with about 10 TOPs (INT8), Hawk Point has 16 and Strix Point around 45-50. That might sound like a lot but Hopper has 2000 and MI300X has 2600 and you need clusters of them to run advanced AI models quickly. Do you think there is a risk that people might expect far too much from AI accelerators on laptop APUs?
Chris Rijk
2023-12-08 22:14:06 +0000 UTCHi Tom, in your recent video reacting to AMD’s AI announcements, you suggested that AMD are very keen to get into Microsoft Surface. Let’s say that Microsoft announces a new generation that is all AMD. On a scale of 1 to 10, how big of an “oh shit” moment would that be for Intel? PS There are some Surface products with AMD already but the processors are ancient - the highest end I could find was a Ryzen 7 4980U: https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/d/surface-laptop-4/946627fb12t1 https://www.amd.com/en/products/apu/amd-ryzen-7-4980u-microsoft-surface-edition
Chris Rijk
2023-12-08 21:50:47 +0000 UTCShould we spoil the HEDT market by launching our grace.grace Superchip and blowing away all x86 competitors?
Jen-Hsun Huang
2023-12-08 21:41:22 +0000 UTCHi Tom, after the unveiling of hawk point, the general sentiment that I'm seeing online is quite negative with most people summarising it as a rebrand of phoenix. Do you think this is fair or do you think it's more of a reaction following this week's Intel marketing push? Cheers from the UK.
Alex Smith
2023-12-08 21:31:46 +0000 UTCThere is a lot of discussion about running AI locally on laptops and desktops and how hardware acceleration can help. However, there is a distinct lack of real world consumer examples. Where are the apps!? Should we see this as being more like RT hardware support starting with Turing 5 years ago and are just going to have to wait for developers to catch up?
Chris Rijk
2023-12-08 21:30:20 +0000 UTCHello again Tom. Will the lowest end Blackwell Die outperform Navi 43. Has Nvidia learned from their mistakes of limiting the PCIe Bandwidth and Memory Bus (and thereby capacity) on their GPUs; giving the lowest end Blackwell Die a 192 bit bus at the minimum?
TechnoLadz
2023-12-08 21:22:35 +0000 UTCI wasn’t doom and gloom about intel’s future until their pr stunt the other day proclaiming AMD sells snake oil products when by their own definition they also sell snake oil products, especially their latest and greatest 14th gen. It appears they’ve run out of things to pull out of the bag if they are resorting to petty marketing stunts that thankfully don’t work anymore.
Sad XTX 999
2023-12-08 21:19:20 +0000 UTCNVIDIA recently announced it will make ARM chips for PCs. Paired with Lovelace, Could these partially replace NVIDIA's recently discontinued MX GPUs at the lower end?
Dylan M
2023-12-08 21:17:12 +0000 UTCdo you think AMD will release a new socket before Zen 7 (or whatever its called) to support Strix Halo/Kraken like APUs on desktop? If not do you think AMD missed an opportunity to make make AM5 bigger to accommodate them?
Dylan M
2023-12-08 21:09:21 +0000 UTCIntel is just about to launch some new products and normally that would be a highlight but I don't see it happening here. From memory, the only good thing that's happened for Intel this year is that the market has somewhat returned to normal. From your perspective, has Intel had any highlights in 2023? Can we be excited for Intel in 2024? I'm not feeling it currently.
Chris Rijk
2023-12-08 21:09:00 +0000 UTCWhat are your thoughts on the US government firmly telling nvidia they can’t do anything to circumnavigate the export restrictions? Do you think AMD can capitalize on this somehow and if they do will Uncle Sam give them the same hammer?
Sad XTX 999
2023-12-08 21:08:15 +0000 UTCI was just thinking about looking for 4070’s/7800xt’s to buy. Curious about what these new gpu deals could be, I was under the impression the best is behind us going forward.
Sad XTX 999
2023-12-08 20:59:21 +0000 UTCHow long is AMD planning to wait to release Zen 5 X3D?
FloridaMan
2023-12-08 20:58:14 +0000 UTCHow is Zen 5 X3D vs Zen 5 going to stack up against Zen 4 X3D vs Zen 4? Will VCache be less of a performance enhancement for Zen 5?
FloridaMan
2023-12-08 20:57:40 +0000 UTCHey Tom. I know I already asked this on Discord basically (TechnoLadz) - but at what TDP ranges do you think Meteor Lake will outperform Raptor Lake? Because at 40W they seem identically tied (if anything Meteor Lakes a little bit on the losing end of the stick) - which we earlier thought would be 65W.
TechnoLadz
2023-12-08 20:56:20 +0000 UTC
