Discussing 1 Year of ARC & Lovelace, RDNA 4, and Intel 14th Gen w/ Josh Walrath from PC Perspective (Guest Telegrams)
Added 2023-09-15 23:39:34 +0000 UTCBroken Silicon's next guest will see the return of Josh from PC Perspective. Overall we plan to take a look back at a year of Alchemist and Nvidia Lovelace, discuss the pricing & sales trajectory of the RX 7800 / 7700 XT, talk about RDNA 4 hopes a bit, and also debate if Intel 14th Gen will be a solid enough generation to do well against discounted Zen 4 this holiday season!
But please feel free to ask us literally anything about the market and upcoming products - this episode will be HEAVILY steered by your submissions, and Josh has decades of experience to bring to the table. Just be respectful, concise, and use good grammar to be considered! You have ~40 hours to submit below!
Follow Josh on Twitter: https://twitter.com/JoshDWalrath
Check out PC Perspective: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtKh7t3br1obEQL6EyiAq0w
Last Episode Josh was on: https://youtu.be/-sexhmip2JY?si=uQY2ot3OItNPgQzq
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/rtx-40-series-graphics-cards-announcements/
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/arc-a770.c3914
Comments
Hey guys. Do you think Amd made a mistake making Navi 32 an mcm design? Even though some of it is 6nm, I can't help but think the packaging cost made up the difference in silicon cost. Wouldn't a monolithic Navi 32 have been a little cheaper and most energy efficient? A 7800xt for $450 would have been just that much better in the current market.
Dig Wiggler
2023-09-18 01:43:14 +0000 UTCHello Tom and Josh. Over the course of this year, there has been much wailing and gnashing of teeth over the "poor optimization" of recent games, especially when it comes to VRAM usage. This seems strange to me because my impression of the PC gaming community is that people would just shrug their shoulders and blame the complainer's hardware for any performance shortfalls. Has this kind of thing happened before? I am fairly new to the PC gaming space so I am curious to know whether or not this is a regular occurrence.
Steven S
2023-09-17 23:24:58 +0000 UTCHello Tom and Josh. Why doesn’t Intel open source there windows drivers. It seems like their software is the main problem. Why not let the community help?
Bryan P.
2023-09-17 22:48:49 +0000 UTCIs this Nvidia generation the worst ever from a value perspective? If the ai bubble bursts, what type of year over year increase do you think would be necessary for consumers to get excited?
B. Fish
2023-09-17 22:23:25 +0000 UTCMore VRAM helps performance in various ways, both in the short term and in the long term, but how should this be quantified? If we benchmark games from the last 5 years then we undervalue extra VRAM as usage is only going to go up in future, but should reviewers try to predict how much? Putting it another way, compared to a 8GB card how much extra value would you assign to a 12GB, 16GB or 24GB card with the same performance?
Chris Rijk
2023-09-17 21:25:21 +0000 UTCOhaio Tom-sama and Josh-sama| Do you see Ray Tracing on lower end hardware (Navi 33, AD107 and below, including Phoenix APU or Mobile SoC like Exynos 2200 or A17 Pro alike) would ever go anywhere or being useful? Or would it remain as Meme Tracing and only for a few demo and a tag line in advertisement? Wish y'all low temp and smooth frames.
Dark Side of the Force
2023-09-17 21:04:41 +0000 UTCHello, Tom and Josh. How far do you think Nvidia will go with their reallocation of game driver developers to AI? At what point will the decrease in game driver staffing start to consistently impact Nvidia's performance in newer titles and/or game stability?
kjm015
2023-09-17 20:42:41 +0000 UTCThoughts on the futures of Nvidia, AMD and Intel market-wise? Who will gain more marketshare, where and why?
KingHarkinian
2023-09-17 20:39:17 +0000 UTCHey guys, you guys think that the 7800 and 7700 are a sign from the future. Just as Tom has indicated that the pricing for Lovelace was so incredibly high because Blackwell will be even higher is this AMD pivoting after they realize next generation they won't be producing high end performance shattering products so they have to go to a more value oriented proposal.
Swiggles
2023-09-17 20:37:57 +0000 UTCHey Tom and Josh. What would you expect as a worst case scenario for N43 and N44, performance wise? Let’s say the bug with RDNA 3 isn’t fixed for example. Would you expect 15% as the minimum? Additionally, what bus width are you hearing (or if it’s been crickets, I guess theorise) for these cards. Kind regards Donald Kerner
TechnoLadz
2023-09-17 20:36:39 +0000 UTCHello Tom and Josh, as someone who's aware of the ai bubble but ignorance about it ultimately, is a simple breakdown of what could it mean for diy market as the ai bubble grows and then its eventually collapase possible? Please, thank you and keep up the good work.
Dylan K.
2023-09-17 19:37:03 +0000 UTCWhat should Intel focus on for Battlemage and Celestial? I would suggest driver stability and cost efficient rasterization. In short, the basics.
Chris Rijk
2023-09-17 19:14:35 +0000 UTCShould AMD and Intel merge their respective upscaling software?
Chris Rijk
2023-09-17 18:58:50 +0000 UTCWhile Lovelace is impressive in many ways, it is also expensive in terms of silicon. The 4090 in particular is a very large and very "wide" architecture but games often struggle to use up all the compute resources. An even wider design would likely be even less efficient. Do Nvidia need to increase raster performance with the 5090 though? If so, do they need a more scalable architecture? Or should they just focus on RT performance?
Chris Rijk
2023-09-17 18:08:40 +0000 UTCConsoles are basically custom APUs and off-the-shelf APUs like Phoenix are already getting good enough to compete with lower-end consoles. If Strix Point, Meteor Lake and Arrow Lake start taking sales from the Xbox series S, how should Microsoft respond? Could Strix Halo take sales from Xbox series X and the PS5 or would it be too expensive? Even so, I can imagine there being quite a bit of demand for a small, quiet and simple PC with console level graphics. Could off-the-shelf APUs put pressure on consoles to introduce a next generation sooner?
Chris Rijk
2023-09-17 18:00:28 +0000 UTCHey Tom and Josh. Could RDNA 4 be the GPU generation where "future proofing" by buying the top SKU makes sense? Even with a possible PS5 Pro in the near future, 7900 XT or XTX level performance seems like it should be sufficient to last the rest of the generation at decent 4K settings, and possibly into the first year or two of the next console generation.
Cleansweep
2023-09-16 23:18:10 +0000 UTCJosh, can we get a burger update?
KarbinCry
2023-09-16 08:57:26 +0000 UTCIs it because the market isn't buying every graphics card like it was?
Xavbeat03
2023-09-16 03:08:05 +0000 UTCJosh I really appreciate your in depth discussions over the years on PCPER regarding any new NVIDIA GPU architecture. Given your years of observation of NVIDIAs GPU releases, do you get more excited over the advancements made at the architectural design level ("tock"), or advancements gained by the latest semiconductor process technology ("tick")? Also would love to know what were your favorite (maybe top 3 or top 5) NVIDIA GPUs of all time? Thanks!
Jeffrey Reyes
2023-09-16 02:53:22 +0000 UTCLast generation, Nvidia didn't lower prices until near the end of the generation. This time as soon as AMD releases a competing card (7800xt) Nvidia lowers their prices on the 4060ti and 4070. What's different this time?
Xavbeat03
2023-09-16 00:01:54 +0000 UTCHiya Tom and Josh! Do we know what the future of the APU from Intel and AMD looks like, and will it impact Nvidia since they will only ever be an discrete card? I feel like they are currently happy selling to the high end and/or those who will never look at anything but “team green” (I know people like this), plus the current cash-cow that is AI. I sure hope AMD will keep making mid-top end discrete GPUs and feel that logically the low end will all be APU (then just drop in a better GPU as an upgrade), and I feel like maybe Intel will try to move towards a better APU offering if the discrete cards end up being mostly dead...I really did hope for a 3rd player in this GPU race. Thanks and will be hearing you again on PC Per this next week, (tired) Gaming Dad P.S. Josh, please tell everyone at PCPer thank you for the content! And someday I go through Laramie I hope Born in a Barn is open, I must have bad luck...
(tired) Gaming Dad
2023-09-16 00:01:50 +0000 UTC
