RTX 4090 Review Reactions - Die Shrink Telegrams

Putting aside the fact those "leaks" were obviously fake, if the 4090 was actually 3x as powerful as the 3090, do you think you would have been able to see that in any benchmarks? Or would the gains have been lost due to CPU bottlenecks?

qhfreddy

Hi, Tom and Dan. I hope you guys are doing well. I am surprised by the difference in results between reviews/reviewers. The fact that many reviewers did not use Zen 4 to benchmark the 4090 is mildly upsetting to me because Zen 4 is likely going to be paired with 4090s in high-end builds this winter, not to mention the fact that it is the fastest CPU in modern games. Question: Do you think that reviews should primarily be using Zen 4 to test the 4090? I would be interested to hear your thoughts. Thanks, Conner.

Conner Seney

Hey Tom and Dan! I have to say the RTX 4090 is pretty impressive. Hitting the higher end of your performance estimates and the lower end of your power estimates. Basically a best case scenario all around. Do you still feel confident AMD will be able to deliver a true competitor to this card regardless of price.

AWS Danny

Tom and Dan, Happily surprised to see the 4090 not running at 450 watts plus, pedal-to- the-metal between the lights. Since there is the head room while gaming and that mysterious magnetic plate at the back my sources (or is that voices) have told me this port will allow running an Easy-Bake-Oven while under the 500 watt threshold, as the EBO only uses 100 watts. Instead of the 4090 being a lemon (cake) it now makes lemon cakes. The other take-away is the raw raster power for ray tracing. It seems more hopeful in the next release cycle or 4th generation it can be viable to use in the mid range and perhaps low end of the product stacks. DLSS 3.0 my tin foil hat tells me it will slip in subluminal messages and adverts, it's a good thing Nvidia did not go with their first choice, MK-Ultra sampling.

Sarcastro

How much CPU bound will Lovelace and RDNA 3 be? Would DLSS 3 be a tie breaker here due to CPU limitations?

Łukasz Rozmej

Hi to you both. Looking at the reviews, it seems the power consumption is actually lower in general than what it is with the 3090 Ti. However, I can't shake the feeling that it's because even at 4K, there are many situations where the card is CPU limited. For example, in der8bauer's video where he uses a 12900KS to test BF2042, the 4090 uses just 323W while producing 130 FPS at 4K Ultra. The 3090 Ti uses 443W while drawing 91 FPS. The performance increase is a lower than average 43%. Perhaps there are no CPUs on the market currently that can feed the beast? Or is testing at 5K and 8K not a meme anymore? (edit: doesnt surprise me then, that synthetic benchmark results like time spy are a much bigger improvement over game results)

Where are we at with DLSS 3 and latency? I've heard the theories that interpolation is an awful idea, but also heard more positive musings from Digital Foundry the other week. If it does provide a 3x performance jump in supported games, does it really matter which 4000-series card we end up selecting (once the prices make a bit more sense)? i.e. just grab something that play's today's games at your target resolution and refresh rate and then don't worry about new games because DLSS 3 will make it all better

Ryzza5

Good performance, ridiculous pricing. Interesting that it's CPU bottlenecked even at 1440p. I'm sure they'd love performance to be the talking point for the 40 series however, for me it's the terrible value up and down the stack. Hopefully tech channels keep bringing up terrible pricing and ridiculousness of the two "4080's".

B. Fish

Salutations Tom and Dan, The 4090 FE pleasantly surprised me, and it came off as a far better product than I thought it would be. It didn't use nearly as much power as I thought it would and is exceptionally well-managed concerning heat dissipation. While it's still costly, I could understand many reasons someone might justify its price. With the 7900xt supposedly launching near the end of this year, I wonder what strategies AMD will use to compete against the 4090. Mainly because any plans to treat the 4090 like a massive power-consuming brick seem off the table. Will increased rasterization performance even matter when It will be bottle-necked by either the CPU or the monitor's refresh rate? Due to a lack of features and brand recognition, AMD can't price its products the same as NVIDIA does. Even with tier-below pricing, I think many people will be disappointed. Maybe zen4 + RDNA3 bundles are the way to go? Overall, because the 4090FE was so good, I'm curious how AMD will attempt to compete and gain market share compared to the last generation.

Xavbeat03

Hey Tom and Dan. I never thought that the big three releasing all their new products could be this boring. We've got the AMD/Intel race going neck-and-neck on the CPU side, and AMD/Nvidia seemingly in the same situation with GPUs, Can you please give me something to look forward to.

coladict