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Discussing RADEON, Nvidia, and ARC with Marc Sauter

Broken Silicon's next guest will be Marc Sauter of golem.de!  We plan to discuss:

This episode will get into heavy talk about what Nvidia and RADEON did well the past, what they did wrong in the past, and what we expect out of GPU Competition in the future.

Of course you are all invited to ask any questions you want, but we are generally planning to have this be a mostly GPU discussion. Don't worry, I've got a fun guest lined up for the CPU releases in 2 weeks!


Additionally, we plan to release this episode early to leave some breathing room for the Lovelace coverage next week.  You have ~36 hours to submit reader mails (Until the Evening of 9/14/22).  Be concise (seriously guys lol), use good grammar, and be thoughtful for consideration :).

Comments

So far it feels to me that Nvidia only feels the need to "respond" to AMD late in the product design cycle, eg pushing clock rates and power more than originally planned or like what they did with the 3050 against the 6500. Do you think that's enough or does Nvidia need to change how they compete with AMD early in the design cycle and change their approach to the silicon design itself? Or to take a different angle, can Nvidia continue to enjoy Apple like margins without creating a self-contained ecosystem like Apple has? (Please don't read out the following: to help explain what I mean, when you're using Apple products you're using Mac OS or iOS and switching to Windows or Android or whatever is a much bigger change than switching between Nvidia GPUs and AMD GPUs, at least if you're a gamer. Nvidia is trying to create their own ecosystem by having people depend upon their hardware and APIs, but is that enough of the market? Nvidia can't then remove features from their API and needs to keep their products feature rich. But that makes optimising the silicon design much harder)

Chris Rijk

If my current GPU died at the end of the year, I'd probably try to replace it with something about as fast but cheaper and/or lower power. What would you do in such a scenario? Do we need more advanced games more than we need faster GPUs?

Chris Rijk

Do you guys think Raja Koduri has had a harder with Intel Arc than he had with AMD's projects like Radeon & Ryzen? Considering Intel's vast wealth and resources, I assumed Raja would be much more successful at Intel.

ManBearPig

Why is it that reviewers refuse to only utilize raytracing games at max settings when comparing RTX with the competition?

Jen-Hsun Huang

And if a second question is allowed i would also like to ask what you think why nvidia chose to go monolithic this gen and apperently the one after that instead of a chiplet design? Is it more of a "that's the thing we're good at and people will still buy it no matter what" or do you think they might have same/similar problems as intel in regards to make chiplets work? And if so, is amd really that far ahead in chiplet game?

Hi Tom, Hi Marc. As you mentioned in a couple of videos that one of the main goals for amd this gpu generation is to get marketshare. What are the things amd has to do to overcome nvidia mindshare to gain marketshare in order to not have a similar scenario like in the days of the 4000/5000/6000series cards where they got some marketshare, but were not able to really rattle the mindshare cage.

Hei Tom and Marc, if Intel ark is done. Can Intel get data center GPU going, and over time use this to launch consumer's GPUs again?

Joachim Haugen

Hi Tom and Marc, could you comment what next gen gpus will do in gpgpu datacenter market, as understanding is that is primary target and gaming gpus are secondary like in cpus. In context that advances and taken marketshare in datacenter often reflect features or uarch design or even pricing changes in gaming gpus.

Timo H

Hi Marc and Tom, Thank you for your time on the show Marc and your consistent passion for truth rather than clickbait Tom. How much is VRS, Mesh shading, Sampler Feedback and DLSS/FSR shaping the newer architecture in AMD/Nvidia Cards? With a tighter integration with components (eg, GPU to NVMe with DS, CPU to GPU memory with SAM and Resizable Bar, etc) and RAM getting faster, how does this also shape GPU architectural changes and bandwidth requirements across different buses?

Hi Marc and Tom, How much do you think AMD will close the RT performance gap this coming generation? Have you heard any rumblings on this? Besides final prices, this feels like the last thing that hasn't leaked yet.

KaiserAullirio

Hello Tom and Marc, hope everything is well. My question is where do you think AMD and Nvidia will be after RDNA 3 and Lovelace? We have a rough idea of performance, die size, BOM and such but how do you guys think these companies will walk away from this upcoming gen? My thoughts are even if AMD does not completely stomp Nvidia they will come out much better having done MCM, consistent software stack updates and really just pushing Nvidia into a corner design wise. Nvidia seems a little boned if it's monolithic again after Lovelace if this is the case.

CompressedAIBlocks

With 2nd hand markets about to be flooded, which 2nd hand GPU(s) might you recommend for an always-on HTPC that is mostly a Plex/Web/Email server but also is occasionally used for couch co-op gaming? It currently has an AMD 3600, 32GB RAM and a Nvidia 1060 3GB connected to an older 4K60 TV. Idle power usage is an important consideration, and I likely wouldn't spend more than $150-$200. I hope these constraints make for an interesting discussion.

Ryzza5


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