GPU Prices, RDNA 3, PlayStation 5 Pro, Switch 2 - MeyerTechRants
Added 2022-07-07 19:02:57 +0000 UTCBroken Silicon's next guest will be MeyerTechRants, someone who was part of one of the most listened to episodes...ever. This will be a very informal discussion heavily influenced by YOUR comments and questions below, so please chime in!
We do plan to at least touch on the following though:
- Plummeting GPU Prices and their affect on Lovelace / RDNA3 Launches
- AMD Raphael vs Intel Raptor Lake (Both CPUs, and Platforms)
- Intel's position in the market
- Switch 2 rumors - What's real? What makes sense for Nintendo?
- PlayStation 5 Pro and XBOX Series Refreshes - What's possible? What's sensical?
You have until Sunday Morning (7/10/22) to write in! Be respectful, be concise, and use good grammar to be considered!
Previous MTR episode: https://youtu.be/Ups8FrRFNR0
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Comments
You mentioned 24 Gbps GDDR6 in one of your older videos being a option on the table for Sony/MS. How likely will it be the refreshed consoles will have faster VRAM?
Wasmachineman_NL
2022-07-09 00:09:52 +0000 UTCHi Tom and Meyer's! Based on the information that MILD had provided so far regarding pricing and specs, I am thoroughly convinced that Navi 33 will send huge ripples through the mid-range market, where most buyers are situated. However, the recent price drops makes me feel that the splash Navi 33 will make at launch would be less than what I anticipated. In particular, I think that there will be volumes of last-gen cards with similar raster performance and sometimes more VRAM competing at $400 or below that will dampen out the advantages of Navi 33, but the supply of old cards would also dampen out the demand for Navi 33 and make it easier and cheaper to purchase. What do you think the GPU market dynamic around $400 to $500 will be from now to the end of this year and into the next? What purchasing advice can you offer to people in the mid-range still on their Pascal/Polaris looking for a card to keep for years to come?
Montaign3
2022-07-08 12:58:54 +0000 UTCIs there a reason Intel or NVidia are not going for the console hardware market and that it is solely AMD? Really enjoying the content, helps me get through work, the longer the better for me.
XTX 999
2022-07-08 04:49:39 +0000 UTCHello Tom and Meyer: Been a viewer for a decent bit but just subbed to patreon this week. Firstly thanks Tom for essentially opening the gates of the tech world to me. I was always a gamer but through your channel I recently found out I enjoy the tech portion, down to the transistor that makes games possible. I have learned the same tech is driving the modern world and have found enjoyment in topics like the 5/6G discussion among others. My question is this, when do you feel like pc gaming will become diminishing returns in it’s entirety? I’m a pc gamer and it’s no secret my 3070 destroys my ps5, but I will not lie, what consoles have always been able to do with the limited hardware has always impressed me and my ps5 is no different. For argument’s sake let’s say the ps8 will run games 8K 120FPS with good RT performance, will it be worth it to buy a RTX 9070 to play games at 16K 144FPS? At that point it feels like diminishing returns to me from my current lens. Then again everything will probably be on the cloud by then anyways.
XTX 999
2022-07-08 04:44:49 +0000 UTCWith the PS5s cut down/custom FPU registers likely keeping down and managing the insane thermal and power spikes they cause, I wonder if their design could allow a 16c/32t CPU to be significantly easier to contain and of course cool within the already densely packed APU designs. It definitely looks like Sony learned some valuable lessons with the PS4 to Pro. Ot definitely looked like the Pro/1X CPU clocks were more limited by heat dissipation and power delivery than Jaguar arch limitations. Do you guys, Tom/MeyerTech, think these tweaks and unique customizations lead more towards a potential Pro model or a future PS6 design that continues these decisions and Sony continuing to piece meal what they want from these architectures similar to choosing Rapid Pack Math, 8 Async compute engines etc.
Travis Gooding
2022-07-08 03:30:37 +0000 UTCHi Tom and Meyer, As we near the potential launch of Lovelace, have you we heard ANYTHING about the potential of an “SLI” setup, similar to the 3090 with NvLink? Further,if that features is even there to try and push 8k smoothly onto the latest generation of TVs,do we have appropriate power supplies available to reliably run that setup? It seems given the transient spikes that have been widely publicized any “dual setup” is simply out of the question? Do either of you have any opinion on this possible feature for 8k Tvs as monitors or the power supply that would be needed?
JEazy Ziggy
2022-07-08 01:31:36 +0000 UTCRegarding the Pro Consols Do you suspect microsoft to be sticking closer to RDNA's ray tracing IP, while sony implements custom RT hardware? https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2022/02/how-sonys-new-patent-filing-could-speed-up-playstation-ray-tracing/
Kyle Harder
2022-07-07 21:02:06 +0000 UTCWhen do you predict we'll be sending pictures of our ears to Mark Cerny?
Kyle Harder
2022-07-07 20:55:13 +0000 UTCHello Tom and Meyer. How do you think Sony/Microsoft would attract casual buyers with a pro console? Do you think they'll wave around new terms like "super ray tracing", "psvr pro enhanced", or "smooth 4K"?
Kyle Harder
2022-07-07 20:53:40 +0000 UTCHow long do you think it'll take for 8K tellies and monitors to get cheap and have mainstream adoption?
AllinNubbers
2022-07-07 20:42:00 +0000 UTCHi, Tom and Meyer. Earlier this year Intel, AMD and ARM joined forces to create that Universal Chiplet Interconnect Express standard for having multiple chiplets of potentially different architectures in the same processor. Does that imply moving to unified sockets and motherboards as well, or am I misunderstanding the goal?
coladict
2022-07-07 20:34:38 +0000 UTCHello Tom and MTR, after hearing about AM5 platform for Zen 4 (B650/B650E/X670/X670E) it seems Intel is, yet again, behind AMD in terms of platforms. Do they think that with Meteor Lake and onwards they will attempt to rectify this or do you think that they'll just do their 1 or 2 CPU generations per socket as they do now and gimp certain things like I/O (See PCIe 5.0 drives on LGA1700/1800)?
CompressedAIBlocks
2022-07-07 20:22:58 +0000 UTCHi Tom and Meyer, In light of the Crypto market and plummeting GPU prices, do you expect the next Gen to will end up with closer to MSRP prices and better availability? My current GPU is an EVGA GTX 1080 SC which I grabbed for $649 during its release month. Was hoping to grab an upgrade this Gen. Cheers Roy.
Roy Ackerman
2022-07-07 20:21:17 +0000 UTCOne more question :-) Nvidia and Apple, cuts productions but AMD plows on. Is part of the reason that they have a lot of different products to allocate the wafers between. Or do you think they will try to grab market share in GPU's in a bad market?
Joachim Haugen
2022-07-07 19:58:48 +0000 UTCHei Tom and Meyer 🙂 In the ealier days of the chanel, I remenber you said a coupple og times "It's not a bad product, only bad price" With Intel falling behind on products, can they keep up with pricing because they own fabs?
Joachim Haugen
2022-07-07 19:52:43 +0000 UTCHey Tom and Meyer, With the upcoming Xbox refreshes, do you think there's any chance Microsoft gives up on its PCI-E 4.0 SSD compatibility restrictions, or will they stubbornly refuse to acknowledge the second coming of the gray market expanded Xbox storage market? I myself bought a faster 360 HDD that was cheaper than what Microsoft was charging for from some guy on eBay. Today, you don't even need the eBay seller to put the drive into a weird case - you just buy a $20-30 adapter from eBay, and stick an M.2 in there.
Cleansweep
2022-07-07 19:36:24 +0000 UTCAs of now, what are the most likely performance targets for next Xbox series x or ps5 pro?
Falto
2022-07-07 19:28:52 +0000 UTCOn a scale of "fine" to "2-week-old taco bell leftovers", how much do you think Nvidia is crapping their pants right now with the glut of GPUs on the market? With the recent news of attempts to cancel orders and AIBs demanding delays, I can't imagine it's a fun time in the Nvidia boardroom.
Gwen Farron
2022-07-07 19:26:42 +0000 UTCHello Tom and MeyerTechRants! Do you believe we will see a shift in market share between Radeon and Geforce graphics cards? It seems like gamers are willing to forgive all Nvidia’s sins once a new generation of GPUs is released, and even if RDNA3 definitely wins over Lovelace in entry level, mid and high end categories the majority will still flock to Lovelace. What are your thoughts?
Guntis Paeglis
2022-07-07 19:26:39 +0000 UTCLike world governments so is the gaming space. Everyone has a different take on what's best. I'm wondering with devices like the steam deck and eyaneo will there ever be a tech company that gets that consumers want to play whether portable or home. Consumers like choice and don't want to be put in a box. The company who offers a powerful solution, that can play anything will win. We PC gamers wish we could take our PCs with us for gaming, that's why the steam deck is on back order. Nintendo would be wise to look at that market and give gamers what we want and it isn't Mario.
Dr Forbin
2022-07-07 19:22:44 +0000 UTCHey Tom and Meyers. With the plummeting GPU prices do you see this causing Nvidia and AMD reconsider charging too much for their high end cards. Usually this would be an easy answer but the rising cost of food and energy more people would be hesitant to spending over a Grand on just a graphics card, especially when you can get a 3090 for $800!! By the fall 3090s may go for $600 or less. Nvidia and AMD aren't just competing with themselves they are also competing against a cheap Used market they created.
Kinihun25
2022-07-07 19:11:42 +0000 UTCHello Tom and guest! We all know about Nvidia trying to reduce 5nm orders and delaying their Lovelace launch...and that competing against their own Ampere stock is probably something they want to avoid. But AMD will also have to deal with 2nd-hand Ampere stock saturating the market. What do you think this could mean for RDNA3 pricing? Will this affect it at all and potentially drive down the cost for the new cards? Or will the next generation pricing be astronomical compared to even the Covid madness?
theRemedy
2022-07-07 19:10:32 +0000 UTCHow long before we see BOGOs for 3090Ti's?
Nory R
2022-07-07 19:08:02 +0000 UTCWhat do you expect the initial price inflation will be for zen 4 CPUs/motherboards? And how good will the availability brown launch?
Rødgrød med Fløde
2022-07-07 19:05:26 +0000 UTC
