Discussing Intel & AMD's future with Wendell from Level1Techs - Telegrams for Guests

Hi Gents, Great as always to have Wendell with you Tom. Few questions if you would be so kind; * Any estimate on the longevity (time, chips etc) of the AM5 Socket for upcoming Zen 4 and beyond? I upgrading to a full new water-cooled build on Zen 4. Can not wait. * How do you both feel about Windows 11? Stability, integration, drivers, updates, features? Are either of you running Win 11 now? * Very interested in your thoughts on the pros and cons ass if to hold tight for ZEN 4 CPUs and RDNA 3 GPUs? Are we beyond the point for me personally to buy existing components when new ones are coming round the corner? I am sure there will be deals to be had, but that AM5 Socket longevity could mean I slot in an upgrade 2-3 years from initial launch? Also other factors such as PCIE5 (not as important as people think) but DDR5 will be a difference gping forward in your thoughts? Really hope they won't go down the line of Intel amd how short their LGA socket life is..... * With other chip makers coming to market such as the Tachyum Prodigy processor has up to 128 proprietary cores mated with 16 DDR5 memory channels (for a 1,024-bit interface) supporting up to 7200 MT/s data transfer rate (and therefore providing up to 921.6 GBps of bandwidth) as well as 64 PCIe 5.0 lanes. In addition, the chip supports up to 8TB of DDR5 memory in total, which is in line with what we will see with upcoming server CPUs from other makers. As for clock rates, Tachyum's Prodigy is designed to run up to 5.7 GHz and is a product of TSMC's performance-optimized N5P process technology. - Taken from Tom's Hardware story released today. So using 5NP....Looks like a beast... With their top SKU at 950 Watts...Holy Meatballs....!! Could use it as a house heater in winter / joke. Imagine if it didn't have the 5NP power efficiency lmfao 🤣 Loving the MLID channel as ever Tom. Fantastic vid letting people know AND remind them that you were the one who leaked the information... Fu@king bunch of geniuses out there.... Occams Razor was the cherry on top. Sometimes KISS is a good one.... Keep It Simple Stupid! Cheers Gents and Ladies 😀

Original_Ross

Hi Wendell, Year of the Linux Desktop when?? But really, will the Steam Deck/Steam OS help bring proper gaming to Linux?

Trogdor

Hi Tom and Wendel, To begin with, I will be drinking some Orange Crush while listening to this episode. Gelsinger inherited problems at Intel, can you shed any light on how a culture was allowed to develop where products are consistently 6, 8 or 24 months late or just not delivered; eroding market share, consumer confidence and seemingly ability? Is it over ambition or hubris feeding perpetual dysfunction? It seems this level of dysfunction and failure takes considerable effort.

Sarcastro

One of the things I've often heard concerns about with some AMD platforms is linux support, could you give an overview about how good/bad it was on AM4?

qhfreddy

Hi Tom and Wendel. Regarding AMD and Intel competition how will it look like in 5-10 years? I mean AMD is crushing Intel right now but they still have pretty limited budget. How will the battle look when AMD's half the size or even more of Intel's revenue? Will we even be talking about AMD vs Intel or it will be just AMD vs Nvidia(or other company)?

QuickJumper

If intel isn't able to compete in the high end desktop market, should we expect the i5~ish lineup to be competitive when it comes to price to performance and against amd in general at the least? And assuming core counts go up for the i5 or r5 models, then I think for most people this tier should be more than enough when it comes cpu performance

Falto

Welcome back Wendell! After reading only the slides from AMD's Financial Analyst Day, my mind is absolutely blown at everything AMD confirmed from here to about the end of 2024. One of the key things I could not help but notice was that in the slides referring to GPUs there more emphasis being put on Radeon Pro SKU's and their software. I am curious to see where that goes but in the meantime, what do you think needs to be their focus in order to have a better reputation overall on Windows?

MelodicWarrior

Hi Tom and Wendell, What’s the benefit of using a PCI-E switch when building a server besides expand connectivity beyond the PCI-E lane limit of the host CPU? Nvidia uses this in their 4 GPU DGX but that only occupy 64 PCI-E lanes. Maybe it’s just there for users to add more GPUs in the future?

Last and current generation computers SFF was heavily popular with many of us. Has NVidia and its power draw totally killed high end GPU's going into those type of builds? Seems to me if I build any SFF PC's down the road, the only way I can do it is an expensive water cooled build.

Dr Forbin

Hi Tom and Wendell, What features/characteristics a chip needs to have for it to be called a “cloud-native” chip? To my understanding, it needs: 1. Adequate ST performance 2. Uarch that aims to maximize perf/watt/area 3. High core count What else you think should be on the list?