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Sixteen EP.6 is now up!

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noticed how dahyun went straight for mina @58:22 for the chicken leg game πŸ˜‚

bboshaki

This is why JYP never let the audience decide anything in the survival shows he did after this one.

Mr Jackpots

literally during the last live i thought i heard han say she wanted to watch a try not to cry challenge and i was like no pls no itll for sure have sixteen spoilers

terriblytaylor

I see where you're coming from, but I think you're applying intentionality that wasn't truly there. You could be right, but I think it was more like a string of bad luck for Momo, and I really think JYP did what he thought was right in the moment, not as a part of a bigger plan. It's true that ChaeMoJi weren't the most popular team, but they were the most "purely talented" - like, their talents were very chrystalized - and I think he made that team to see if they could work together instead of standing apart and doing their own thing. Plus, perhaps he wanted to see if their talent could sway people to their "side"? But I think the biggest doubt I have about this is that question of "why"? He clearly liked her dancing enough to bring her back from elimination, making more room in the group for 9 members instead of 7. So why deliberatetly break down one of the trainees that was one of the best in her field, only to then bring her onto the team Anyway? completely changing the "rules" just so you could add her back. And if we're going really dark here, why deliberately eliminate her so Early then? If he really wanted to torture her, he could have kept her on for more episodes, breaking her spirit even more. Anyway, we'll never know what really happened on the show, and Momo seems to be doing fine now. But I agree that it was heartbreaking to see her confidence plummet with every challenge. It was interesting to see your point of view! :)

JokerCrowe

I really do think he intended on it. There was quite literally no way Natty was going to debut. None. There was no reason, even within the context of the show, to have Natty beat Momo. His goal was to create the next JYP girl group. Now, if this show were different and the purpose was to find new JYP trainees, yes, pick Natty. So either JYP lost focus as to what the purpose of this show was OR it was intentional. His justifications for creating each team also didn’t make any sense because the Chaeyoung/Jiwon/Momo team was BY FAR the least popular. He knew the ranks of each SIXTEEN member and still chose the teams he did and was surprised when the least popular overall group lost, resulting in either the best vocalist, rapper or dancer being eliminated.

ThatPatreonThough

I agree that Momo's confidence was really shot after SIXTEEN, but I really don't think JYP himself intended on "breaking her down", he wasn't even particularly harsh with her, not moreso than with other contestants. Really the only time he said "you can definitely do better" was in the first Mission (at least when it comes to dancing). In the 1 v 1 battle, he said that she would have Won if she was up against anyone but Natty, he praised Momo a alot, it just happened that Natty did better. And in this Team Mission his opinion was that Momo's team did better (at least in the first round). Her even getting in the position of maybe getting eliminated was 100% up to the audience, if it were up to JYP that wouldn't have happened. He Really didn't want to eliminate her, but compared to Chae and Jiwon, Momo had the most to work on. The entire team was 90% perfect, but the others were at 91% and Momo was at 89%, so she had to go. I really don't see him trying to Break her and make her lose confidence, that would make no sense either; why would he want to destroy his own trainees?

JokerCrowe

I knew it was coming but it's still a really rough episode. Nayeon bursting into tears on stage really gets to me.

Stavros

Kess and Han: "I don't really know why I feel so anxious and nervous. There's no reason to be. We know who's going to be eliminated." Also Kess and Han: πŸ‘πŸ‘„πŸ‘ πŸ‘πŸ‘„πŸ‘

D

They're literally playing "See You Again" when Momo gets eliminated. They must of had some sort of idea she was coming back when this episode was edited.

vickyjust

Even if that wasn’t his intention, it then became an unintended consequence because Momo’s confidence in her dancing skills was noticeably lower for a few years post-debut.

ThatPatreonThough

and this is why momo said she had trauma bc of sixteen :(

winterluv

Honestly was soooo scared everytime they do a deep dive that there might JUST BE THAT ONE PERSON. The anxiety that thought gave me HAHAHA

CC

Really nice that you didn't end up getting spoiled about Momo, seeing that happen in your reaction was even better. IIRC Dahyun said she joined JYP(Company) cause she was a big fan of JYP. The Big 3 (JYP,SM,YG) all accepted her.

Syzxrgy

you really hit the nail on the head when you said Dahyun thinks JYP like her father. At the LA Encore show she said "Father (JYP)" and then either I love you or something like I miss you. Either way he is her IDOL. and we can never forget her yelling at her father during the whisper game. She has growth and admiration for JYP.

jthemexthatcan

Actually dying over this comment πŸ˜‚

Kess & Han

I don't think he tried to break her, he is just really hard on people who are talented but aren't living up to their potential (in his opinion). He never wanted to remove her from the show but because of the audience voting part he had to.

whomanshoe

I think Nayeon is able to be who she is because Jihyo is such a good leader/mom for the group that she didn't have the pressure to be the "eldest".

whomanshoe

It is my strongly held belief that JYP spent the entirety of Momo’s time on SIXTEEN trying to break her and make her lose confidence in herself. And it worked. He KNEW he wasn’t going to debut Natty but kept having Momo lose to her. It literally took YEARS for Momo to get back to the same level of confidence she had in the pre-interviews. Watching this live was the most heartbreaking thing.

ThatPatreonThough

Doctor Strange is messing with the multi-verse again you just watched Sixteen from another dimension where Momo isnt in Twice - sorry about that.

Unsalted Pecan

It's unfortunate BUT I GUESS THIS IS THE LAST WE SEE OF MOMO

bLuGhOsT

Yess!!! I was waiting for this all weekend!! Thank you kess and han!! 😍😘

Liann Garcia

SIXTEEN BABY

bLuGhOsT


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