Attack on Titan S04E21 'From You, 2000 Years Ago' - FULL REACTION!
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I'd say so far here at this point of the story, it's not just that everything is horrible and the world is cruel and then again hammer on the point that cruelty begets cruelty and that humans are cruel. and admittedly the show does an incredible and realistic job of depicting that cruelty. It's telling us very very very relevant points and observations of our world today, things going on right now and for the past decade and for the past century and for the whole of human civilization- our enemies are humans too, they don't deserve to suffer, and it's incredibly hard to open up and understand one another, which is the solution instead of killing each other. But too many people are incapable of understanding. The show in its way is saying don't be a xenophobic racist, don't be mean to people, don't be an asshole. Be kind or your own actions will create the demon that will destroy you. How can a mere cartoon give us the answers to the real life themes it is posing to us if the real life world can't handle its own themes? In the end though, all those sentiments are just a wish, and people will end up fighting, so in this show I am just here for the glorious acting, animation, and entertainment.
David Caine
2022-06-12 14:55:46 +0000 UTCYou know what's kind of crazy about her backstory? the Founder Ymir and OUR Ymir are almost parallels. Abducted, indoctrinated, used, betrayed, then punished. I think that had a lot to do with why Founder Ymir returned to Eldia after inheriting the Power of the Titans. She had no identity outside of being Fritz' slave since she was a child. She didn't ever think for a second to use her Power to seek revenge. Instead, she felt suddenly useful, and if she was useful, she could give so many of her people joy and prosperity. And she believed she was finally good. Thought she was content. Respected even. - "To be honest... it wasn't all that bad. My food wasn't cold anymore... And neither was my bed off the ground.. But more than all... was the feeling of being needed by someone. I served a purpose in someone's life for the first time ever. To me, that was more precious than anything else. But then, one day... I was cruelly reminded that everything in my life... was a lie." I'm wondering if that's what happened right there at the end when she took that spear to the chest for the king. "I know you won't die from a mere spear, my *slave*, Ymir." Which, should be true. I'm not sure, but I think the implication at the end there is at that point, she chose *not* to heal her wounds and actually let herself die, remembering the blood-stained flower at the tree. Remembering what she was to these people /before/ they worshipped and revered and feared her Power. They tried to kill her after they blamed her for something she never did. "That's when I knew... This was my punishment. for convincing myself to believe... to feel needed by someone. It's what I deserved for continuing to lie to myself. This was my punishment." - “Christa... I felt the same. That it would be better if I had never been born. I was hated by the world just for existing. I… to give countless people joy, I gave up my life. But from that time, there was a wish I held in my heart. If someday, I was given a second chance at life… this time… I would live for no one but myself” Cut to Eren convincing her to help him erase the planet lol
Andrew G
2022-06-11 03:25:00 +0000 UTCYuji Kaji is just incredible!! His voice acting is just simply amazing
Captain_Page
2022-06-11 02:44:59 +0000 UTCI hope you guys see this comment because i like this explanation so much. Yeah this episode was a lot! Something that i always heard growing up that the eyes are the mirror and u can see the soles of a person through them. Ymirs sole was pretty much lifeless, thats why we couldn't see them through the episode. the guys here explained her psychology very well and why she returned back to king fritz. So basically Eren was the only one who brought life to her sole by giving her a choice... he was the first one in a long time that didn't treat her like a slave and that brought life back to her sole and we were able to see her eyes and all the anger that have been trapped in her sole. if u noticed the first thing Eren said once he saw her and Zeke was introducing her "she was here all alone for this long?" .. he felt sorry for her and eventually gave her the choice to rebel against the whole world and basically destroy it. I really hope we get more informations about her later on because those informations are so crucial to the main story. Dont gete wrong, i adore this show, as told u guys before in YT, i feel so passionate about it that everyday must contain AoT in some way, BUT we must learn more about Ymir and get more explanations. Great reaction guys! Peace ✌️
Hasan Shyoni
2022-06-10 22:59:48 +0000 UTCI think this mentality is still present in my country, where people worship politicians like Gods or a higher being than them even if it is so obvious that they are only using them.
Tan John Carlo
2022-06-10 20:49:56 +0000 UTCIn the year 2022,connection we have with slavery is lost,slave psychology is unthinkable for most of us.We can only speculate about slave mentality.Also,one of the most important line runs in the background when Zeke screaming for Ymir to obey royal blood,"do you want to stay here forever...or you want me to end it?" is what Eren is telling her.It was now or never for Ymir.And she already lived enough for couple of "never"
Bogdan Turda
2022-06-10 04:54:06 +0000 UTCSo now when you know what each brother had planned, if you two were on Paradis and could either help destroying the world that wants to murder all of your people, or help Zeke to... well... also do a genocide, but one where you won't be killed but loose the ability to reproduce. Which would you choose? Personally I'm with Zeke here. I think that's the lesser of two evils.
Tomasz
2022-06-09 22:04:39 +0000 UTCI think although it's not directly explained why Ymir was still acting as a slave to the King, we can understand if we consider some facts. Ever since a child, like maybe 7-8 years old, Ymir has always been a slave. She never understood what freedom is. Let's even take a simpler example, she had her tongue cut off and after acquiring the founding titans power, she could've healed her tongue anytime she wanted but she CHOSE not to cause in her mind, the king ordered it to be cut off and she can't defy him. It's kind of like Stockholm syndrome. She never had freedom so didn't even realize she was a slave to the king. For 2000 years in the coordinate/paths, where every sec is like an eternity. All until Eren, who showed her, she's neither a god nor slave, just a person and she can choose what to do. I think we see events like this in real life, like Feral children who grew up isolated from society in remote forests, they show behaviors more like to animals and the nature around them. And as essentially as Attack on Titan focuses a lot on Nature vs Nurture (i.e. Eren vs Zeke, Mikasa vs Ackerman blood, Armin vs Berthold's memory, Reiner as a soldier vs Reiner as a warrior), Ymir's behavior is a very interesting layer to the story and adds a lot of depth.
Raiyan Islam
2022-06-09 20:56:50 +0000 UTCIn my opinion, this is kind of like "If a cow is raised tethered to a tree stump, it will get used to it even when it is strong enough to break free " that sort of thing. Ymir was born and raised in a slave society and she is meek by nature. Aggression in human nature has been neutered(This is much like the exhortation of women in East Asian societies). Ymir has always been a slave, she has no self, so in life, so in death. And I did notice that the author paints a different side of Ymir — she once stopped her work to stare at a couple getting married. She has desires, the wedding is the only place where everyone laughs and congratulates the couple on stage, and the yellow sand of the battlefield is replaced by flying petals in this cruel world. when she was hunted down, she wept at the white petals of the flowers stained with blood, it symbolizes her disillusionment with a bright future. All titans are from Ymir, including the attack titan. The attack titan represents Ymir's deep desire for freedom, and its mission to give Ymir a chance to awaken. The first step in awakening is to acquire a sense and expression of resistance and not to defer to the royal family.
winnie FFan
2022-06-09 10:52:47 +0000 UTCare y’all gonna see the intro after this episode or you’ll wait until last one?
Andres Centeno
2022-06-09 05:15:37 +0000 UTCWe know now, it was just a momentary confusion. Forgot to correct it in the video.
Sonny Mike Olsen
2022-06-09 05:11:00 +0000 UTCThat wasn't Marley, Eldia and Fritz kidnapped Ymir's people then married their women later
Kyle Turman
2022-06-09 02:39:27 +0000 UTCI haven't read all the comments or finished the discussion portion of the video yet (so forgive me if I'm repeating lol) but Ymir had her tongue cut out as a child and only known a life of subjugation. Not an easy cycle to break. And I think Kat's point about being like Ymir (a slave) and Frieda saying that Ymir was an example of being ladylike was exactly what I thought too.
april 🍏
2022-06-09 01:01:23 +0000 UTCYmir didn't build the millions of titans in the wall for revenge, but because she obeyed the will of Karl Fritz, first king of the walls (King Fritz and Karl Fritz are different. King Fritz is the psychopath who started it all). Every titan we've seen in the show was built by her very own hands. She literally endured an eternity of enslavement building titans in pure hell. Now all this unfathomable sadness and frustration pent up for an eternity is let loose by literally destroying the very world that has been torturing her since she was a little child. Note that she is still a child in Paths. Representing that she's just that, a little, innocent, traumatized, tortured, enslaved little child. That's why her eyes were never seen. I think she returned to King Fritz and obeyed royal blood from there on because she feels an extreme longing for human connection and love, something she has never felt. That's why she obeys orders, gets the sand out of the giant glowing tree in paths... it's her subconscious. The tree connecting all Eldians represents her longing for connection and family. After an eternity of this hell, Eren came in and became the first human who understood her and gave her the feeling of freedom and connection. Eren gave her the feeling she has been longing for, for an eternity, or 2000 years in this sense. She is one of the most tragic characters in fiction, and I sincerely hope she will experience love and salvation in the end.
ForxBase
2022-06-08 22:48:19 +0000 UTCthe eldian empire is based on germanic people and marley is more based on ancient peloponnesian people
Jordan Perkins
2022-06-08 22:39:54 +0000 UTCit's important to keep in mind that when Ymir gets her powers she's still a child with no family and no where to go if she were to kill her captors. Losing her home and becoming a slave I think is more than enough for a child to not understand or believe in the agency they have over their own life even after acquiring great power.
koi
2022-06-08 22:09:54 +0000 UTCKnowing that time passes incredibly slowly in the coordinate/paths, 2000 years must have been an eternity to Ymir. An agonizing eternity building titans one by one until Eren gave her a choice to be free.
Hokuto Shinken
2022-06-08 21:31:08 +0000 UTCIt’s sad to see Ymir grow up a slave and have the mindset that that’s all she is by constantly doing what the king said :/
Elder
2022-06-08 21:18:33 +0000 UTCY’all remember when Eren said “i'll kill them all! i'll wipe every one of them...off the face of this earth!“ he meant what he said even if his original target changed
Drai
2022-06-08 19:07:03 +0000 UTCBtw hats off to Eren's voice actor. That scream was beyond belief.
MrBo2
2022-06-08 16:49:21 +0000 UTCIt seems like the reason why titans regenerate is fully explained in this episode. It happens because Ymir works forever in Coordinate to build the Titans back and those Titans can regenerate unless they receive massive damage to their neck which causes the spinal fluid of titan to disconnect from coordinate.
MrBo2
2022-06-08 16:38:23 +0000 UTCLooking back I think it’s amazing how Eren was the last drop of water for Grisha and Ymir. Grisha was at conflict with his identity and his mission; Ymir is at loss with her own identity. Being a slave was her identity, and despite the treatment she’s too vulnerable to rebel against Fritz. All it takes for both of them is some Eren’s ASMR 😂
Chikᶠⁱˡa
2022-06-08 16:35:42 +0000 UTCYmir had some hard core Stockholm syndrome toward the awful 1st king Fritz. It’s ok guys, these past 3 episodes were a mind trip and A LOT to take in, but that what made them the ultimate holy Trifecta of AOT. The game changers. Thank you for the reaction and discussion.
Be Happy
2022-06-08 16:16:18 +0000 UTCIts very easy to see why she would continue to be King Fritz's slave. Its the mentality of most people who have been abused or told they are nothing more than a tool. Asking why she would continue to do the King's bidding is like asking why the millions upon millions of African Slaves shipped around during the 1600s didnt just run away or free themselves. Some were too scared of what would happen to their families if they did(think of the Warrior candidates. Why dont they just free themselves with their Titan powers.), Some would grow up thinking that all they are is a slave or a tool(Ymir), and some would try and succeed while most would die(again showing the others who did not try that its not worth it).
D
2022-06-08 15:27:55 +0000 UTCI love that this show can make us understand and empathize with every character, even if we don't agree with them. Eren is about to commit global genocide, yet I still feel for him, it makes perfect sense for him to have come to this terrible decision.
Lucid
2022-06-08 14:59:03 +0000 UTCWe know now, it was just a momentary confusion. Forgot to correct it in the video.
Sonny Mike Olsen
2022-06-08 14:48:12 +0000 UTCIt was the Eldians who came for her village. So Marley’s recount of history is accurate. The Eldians were awful to the rest of the world. And Once Ymir got Titan powers they dominated the world for 2,000 years. When the show begins, that’s only about 100 years after the first king of the walls retreated and renounced war. The explanation for Ymir being submissive is that she spent so much of her life as a slave it just became who she was. However, further explanation of everything is still to come in part 3.
Jacquelyn Jinks
2022-06-08 14:44:30 +0000 UTCWe know now, it was just a momentary confusion. Forgot to correct it in the video.
Sonny Mike Olsen
2022-06-08 14:34:35 +0000 UTCYes this episode was a lot.. But it was destined. One of the strongest traits of Erens character is his conviction. He will not stop until he gets what he wants, that has been shown since he was young. Even in early season 1 finale in his fight against Annie, he said he would destroy the world. It's Erens show now and he wont stop at any cost because it's him and his beliefs against the world
Cation
2022-06-08 14:31:19 +0000 UTCIf you know someone who's been abused, this is very easy to recognize. We may not all be able to relate to it, but if you've seen it, you know it's real. Human psychology is NOT simple or easy, and people can get trapped so deeply in their own trauma that they just cannot get out on their own. This whole episode, to me, really cements the idea I think the entire story is going for, though, entirely through the character of Ymir. She clearly has the physical power to free herself, but she chooses not to use it. That is, essentially, most of human existence. All those things you know you should do but you keep on coming up with excuses not to do them, that's you being a slave to yourself. It's like Kenny said, though. Everyone is a slave to something. We have the ability to solve a lot of our internal problems, but we frequently just choose not to. Maybe we're scared, or we don't believe we CAN make that choice, but it's always up to us, not anyone else. What I like about this story is that it's sort of a negative reinforcement object lesson about free will. Most stories about this subject are like "you can do it! Believe in yourself and free your mind!" whereas this story is like "here's what can happen when you refuse to take responsibility for what IS directly in your control."
Jonathan
2022-06-08 14:06:28 +0000 UTCArmin don't want to trample marley, only the global alliance (the soldiers who want to attack Paradis)
Daniel1228
2022-06-08 13:58:39 +0000 UTCArmin wasn't okay with eren trampling marley as a whole, but just the global alliance, meaning the ships and every military options the world would unleash upon them. Armin thought eren would just buy them some time as they originally planned by crushing the weapons they would use to destroy them, that's why he felt relief at first. Because the rumbling meant no euthanazation plan, so that he truly wasn't siding with zeke. Then he realized it was more than that and started questionning
Lullabymeyourstory
2022-06-08 13:58:00 +0000 UTCI understood that Ymir is very young girl who lived her whole life being submissive even before her home village was attacked and everybody was turned to slaves. Then her life was just constant pain of living as slave. The book Frieda & Historia reads explains pretty much the character what kind of girl Ymir is/was. My point is that it's not that easy to just say why doesn't she rebel or whatever notion people have, she has no knowledge of that kind of option for herself. There are historical proof of people who were born as slaves and then are set free that they want to go back being a slave. But as we see at the end she was harboring hate and Eren gave her the option to choose something else.
Thamor
2022-06-08 13:52:21 +0000 UTCSonny was right, it was the Eldians who conquered Ymir's village and enslaved them. Marley didn't do anything to warrant her revenge.
Maia Brodsky
2022-06-08 13:50:29 +0000 UTCThe "is this really happening?" look on their faces was priceless. Good reaction
Jim Nasium
2022-06-08 13:25:26 +0000 UTC
