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Dr. Jack Kruse
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RELATIONSHIP REDOX #9: SAYING GOODBYE

How do you process death? Most people struggle with death but what happens when you see somebody you love dying before your eyes while they are still living? How do you approaching the living dead about the choices that brought them to this place in your life?  

How do you process their choices that have imprisoned their thinking and their mindset? 

The causes of death are many and varied.  It might be due to a mood disorder or depression because of life of night shift work.  That chronic depression might lead to a suicide attempt. The very same scenario might not ever get to suicide but it could lead to dementia after 20 years of decline.  The mood disorder might be caused by indoor office work that eventually lead to obesity, diabetes, stroke, that eventually lead to heart disease and an early death.  On the way to any of these diagnosis, your relationship with that person might be radically affected by their choices.  If you love them, do you ignore their choices and let them do what they want as you suffer and watch them die? 


How do you salvage a relationship with a friend or partner who is hell bent on continuing to make choices that will ultimately cost them time......time in their life.  

In survivor training they teach us how to not die when you're helping rescue a drowning person who is anxious and fighting to survive.  If we get this decision wrong, you both drown.  Is this a wise choice?  I think there is a way to help a friend or partner when they are in dying mode while they are actively living and breathing. 

The mode of how they are dying is the key to understanding what your best choice might be.  I don't believe there is any correct answer for any relationship on life support.

THE GOODBYE CHECKLIST

1. You'd be wise to enlist the help of your cicle of six when trying to help another

2. Write them a goodbye love letter

3. Look them in the eyes while handing them an appointment to see a doctor to get a term life insurance policy you as the beneficiary.

4. Ask the dying while living what you can do to help.


  

What happens if the continue to ignore you? Are you prepared to force them to see a life without you in it? 

Can you walk away to teach them how much you really care?  In relationships, people often get complacent with time because they become imprisoned by comfort and luxury.  They begin to avoid the discomfort of thinking.  This is how "comfortable thinking" creates cognitive biases.  Sometimes those biases can harm you and lead to illness or death.  

Have you ever cared so much that you were willing to create a perfect dismount scenario for your significant other?  Dying while your living comes with many contexts in life.  It is a very tough situation to navigate.  There is no one recipe for all.  

You have to try to got others who pack your parachute help you navigate these rough seas.  These people often can help you help the dying person see their self worth to once again love themselves again.  Without this love they will never be capable of loving you or anyone else.  Don't we have to try help others see the value of time?

Nothing is harder than seeing your best friend kill themselves while they are alive, in my opinion.  

Are you prepared to follow them to their grave?  Are you prepared to dig yourself in deeper into redox hell for them?  Is their a time limit that you'll impose on them?  Or will you continue to give them a pass for their choices?  How long will you give them this pass?  How many of your body parts are willing to sacrifice?  

When you love someone there are a few key questions to consider.  Do you love them unconditionally?  Are you in love with them now after their choices have changed the relationship between both of you?  

Do you believe you can love someone, yet let them go completely for their own good?  Do you accept that it might be regal to release a person you love or loved, when their end is near?  Isn't it true that real love is like a boomerang; it should be expected to come back if it was true?   Cutting your love loose is a wicked game.  Would you gamble this big if it was your only option left?  

People only focus on your wisdoms, until they see the depth of how much you care.  I believe you can love deeply, without being in love, because love does not operate like a light switch.  Once the switch is flipped off, it cannot be easily turned back on.  

Would you still be willing to help as choices continue to be made that will extinguish their light?  What happens when you finally realize the choices of others are the hinges of destiny in our relationships?  

The differences in the stumbling blocks in relationships and stepping stones is in how we use them. 

Are you ready to make them see you are willing to do the hard things to make the blind see again?  Can your actions put windex on the glass eyes of the dying?


You cannot make progress without making decisions in relationships. I have found a peacefulness follows any decision, even the wrong one.  It's not hard to make decisions when you know what your values are.  How do you value your life?  How do you value time?   When one bases his life on principle, 99 percent of your decisions are already made.  They are made by the choices we make.

How all in are you really?  for you or for them?

Are you waiting for someone to put flowers on your casket or are you willing to plant your own garden to decorate your life right now?

We don't heal anyone's past by dwindling there with them and allowing them to remain imprisoned there by old choices.   We can only fully heal them by teaching them to live fully in the present even it that present no longer includes them any longer. 

As a surgeon I am addicted to helping and saving the person dying an acute death.  It is what I am trained to do.  As a man in a relationship on life support, I found out that saving someone I love, is a lot more like trying to save a person drowning in the sea.  

You have to be careful of how you attempt to save them, because you might go down with them.  This serves neither person or your family.  This is why living fully, while being solo might be the toughest goodbye that contains the best long term Rx. 

In realtionships, actions prove who you really are. Words are just who you pretend to be..............

  

RELATIONSHIP REDOX #9:  SAYING GOODBYE

Comments

Oooh play time! I love this! This speaks volumes. Recently the anniversary of my late grandmother. To be frank I called her death a year before it happened. I didn't understand much back then, but I knew flow. I'm the fittest and healthiest person my family has seen, yet my "opinions" were met with much hospitality. Long story short, I bow out of the topic indefinitely and she dies. I felt a lot of those things you wrote about, but they were fleeting even for my grandmother. I believe one deserves what they choose to believe in. Maybe the shattering of those beliefs when hit with reality will cause the haze of the Dunning Kruger to dissipate, revealing new perspectives. Or maybe they'll live their last time in blissful ignorance. I have no desire to change how fast they want to burn out. I am very empathetic whatever they choose to do and I feel I love them so much I don't want to interfere with their desire to act out their vision of their life. Would you call this love or simply sin of omission?

Akeemy McDreamy

no

Dr. Jack Kruse

Is wearing rubber shoes is as good as wearing full leather shoes ? (grounding related)

Arvan P Suhardja, MD (MagicTheDoctoring)

Interesting, Penelope Pappas mentioned moccasins. My wife is "stressed" by me wearing my ragged grounded moccasins in public. I now wear the the nice rubber shoes she purchased for me. Theoretically, the reduced stress reduces her myasthenia gravis crisis. Another comromise. Also, I've quieted my private and public religious, moral, political and medical opinions because my beliefs cause her stress and exacerbate her MG.. She has had plasmaferisis, IVIG, Rituxitan or steroid treatments over 30 times in last 3 years. Much I say, believe and do and don't do cause her MG crisis causing stress.

Pace Allen

This relationship series has been fantastic. It has taken quantum science outside of the body and into the real world. This is what medicine is supposed to be. All encompassing. Mind, body, and spirit.

Matthew Darwin

Still contemplating your question, your post and the article. My dopamine may be too low to adequately address the question. My actions have been to negotiate, compromise and split the baby. For example: substitute CT for sunning, walk with more clothes, crack a window, etc. I hope I'm more concerned about what God wants than what think I want today. Walk with giants, become a giant (or the Wise or a Black Swan). Caged love & love on a leash were never love at all. Thanks for the walks and question.

Pace Allen

Are you willing to set love free to get the precise terms you want? https://psiloveyou.xyz/if-you-want-a-good-relationship-be-ready-to-walk-away-ed698ab8cdaf

Dr. Jack Kruse

Very timely. My bride banned me from all comments and involvement with her health care. Then she demanded I stop "sunning". The dermatologist, ophthamologist urologist neurologist psychologist and myasthenia gravis support group agree that full sunlight is EVIL. All have banned me from their sight and hearing. Thanks for sharing. I continue to pray, study and move my feet. There must be a legal $$$ solution soon and path to awakening. Perhaps the legal definition of radio vs microwave u posted will be a key? Thank you Dr Kruse.

Pace Allen

I find that "never judge someone until you've walked in his moccasins" has worked well for me - since I am no panacea of great judgement calls either - my spouse doesn't judge me and I don't judge him - in fact, I give him a pass for many things because I understand him - his past - his environment - the things he does he does to survive - we all make stupid choices - I like what you said once and actually that Kon Marie cleaning lady said it to: be a good example and people will be more prone to follow you - you can always suggest other activities when someone say, is ready to dive into the internet for another binge - you can also remember when you yourself were "binging" to understand how difficult it is to get off once you are on... and how much time goes by - having a few ground rules helps like "don't mention Trump or NPR to me - ever" or there will be a 5G lecture... and they all hate that:-) I don't throw the baby out with the bath water, I try to see the good in everyone - just because someone isn't buying into my model of health isn't a reason to dump them - they all know to turn off the kitchen lights when I'm around - we have all incandescant - even though it costs more - he wired up the computers - in other words, he has been very accomodateing - it is tough watching someone's eyes go to shit - the end isn't going to be pretty, but if someone doesn't want to look at the info, you can't force them to - his friends wear blue blockers, my niece wears them too - he just doesn't want to know - his optomotris is an even bigger idiot, so no traction there - so we have physics discussions in the fond hopes that some of it might hit home - but I'm here till the bloody end and he will probably survive me as I'm a bigger train wreck than he is:-)

Penelope Pappas

I think this book on relationships might resonate with you Jack: You Are the One You've Been Waiting For - Richard Schwartz: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6524831-you-are-the-one-you-ve-been-waiting-for

Lukas Zillmer

my pleasure.

Dr. Jack Kruse

I too am at a turning point in my 30 year relationship/marriage. Your words and analogies help me better see from someone who is going through a similar situation. Thank you for sharing and speaking with such frankness and vulnerability.

Ron Moreland

If that is all you got from this post I'd suggest you move on.........

Dr. Jack Kruse

Jack thanks for the post, very heartfelt and timely, thanks for all you do

Laudy Cincotta

Jack on a completely different subject, have you watched Lena Pu's presentation that she gave in October 2019. She shows slides of the live blood test of a school teacher, before school and then after being in the classroom all day. It is truly shocking. Much more than just rouleaux. Mark shared one of her interviews on his Fb page and then i watched this other one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1pzeTFmCn8, it confirms your post earlier re home schooling children to be healthy.

Christine Smith


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