Upsetting Day: Seth Speaks - The Eternal Validity of the Soul š
Added 2023-05-15 12:00:05 +0000 UTC
Imagine youāre the type of person who wants to take advice from a ghost. In 1963, a science fiction and fantasy writer named Jane Roberts suddenly discovered the lucrative ability to channel an all-seeing being from another dimension who had lived through several reincarnations on Earth. And all that being wanted to do was write self-help books. So, damn, whateverās going on in his post-life dimension must be pretty dull. I like to think that after I die, Iāll be too busy racing go-karts and eating nothing but Red Lobster Cheddar Bay biscuits to fix peopleās sad human lives, but apparently, this ghost has time on his hands.
The loser ghostās name is Seth. So not only are people taking advice from a ghost, but Iām pretty sure itās a ghost who got kicked out of Heaven for skateboarding. Seth just doesnāt sound like the name of an all-knowing being to me. If I were channeling a ghost and he said his name was Colton or something, I would swipe away and look for someone more majestic and old-timey sounding like an Agamemnon or a Sky Senator Moff Profoundo. Seth is the name of someone who died playing Pokemon cards.

Despite his lame name, people loved the Seth books. Somewhere around 25 books have been published in total, and a lot of their ideas are considered the backbone of New Age ideology. Specifically, Seth focuses on the theory that thoughts create reality. This is a very convenient approach to life for people born into privilege because it means they created their reality by thinking good, and if homeless people wanted to eat, they should simply be better at thinking good!
Donāt worry; Iām not going to bypass the Robert F. Butts of it all. Did you look at the picture of that book and not notice the ānotes by Robert F. Butts.ā Shame on you.

Robert Fabian Butts was Jane Robertsās husband, and after Jane passed away, he kept mysteriously finding more and more Seth material Jane had lying around. You see, Robert couldnāt just start channeling Seth himself because he and Jane had been saying for years that if anyone else claimed to be channeling Seth they were lying because he would only talk to Jane. Essentially they trademarked the ghost.

Luckily a little thing like the only person alive who could talk to him dying didnāt deter Seth from sharing his wisdom with the world. Jane passed away in 1984, and in 1995, Seth was still publishing his best work. You would think heād run out of pearls of wisdom after 20 seth-quels, but number 22, The Magical Approach: Seth Speaks About The Art Of Creative Living, is a real humdinger.

Iām not going to lie; you can see some of the ghostās creative struggles in this one. There is a lot of filler. Long, boring notes about what the day they channeled Seth was like written by Mr. F. Butts, dream journal entries, and a whole section on predictions Jane made about the future that are stunningly underwhelming. For example, she once predicted that some paintings her husband sold to a restaurant would still be hanging in that restaurant. Incredible. Fucking absolute wizard shit.

The prophet looked to the sky and pronounced, āEgg carton.ā The people were in awe. Jane interpreted these predictions as things that happened to her later in the day. A friend wrote her that they were moving to Alaska, so thatās snowball machine and snow shoes? Another friend got a job at a grocery store which sellsā¦cereal? Condoms? Pringles? Yes, to all, but they also sell egg cartons! Can you believe that? And if youāre about to sleep with a milk man named Mike Stove, Seth has some bad news about how thatās going to go.
I think Janeās predictions mostly pertain to her life because a central component of Sethās philosophy is that all time exists at once, and you already have all the information you need to make your life great. If you get cancer, thatās entirely your fault. If your Uncle dies and leaves you eight million dollars, thatās because you thought positively about your Uncleās death. Good job!
Sethās revelations are difficult to read because they sound so much like a shopping list for a high school theater production designer. Also they are aggressively useless. Telling someone āMilk manā will never be helpful. Telling someone āDonāt believe Milk manās lies, his blood is the keyā might save their life. There are also notes from Jane interspersed and notes from Robert about Janeās notes, and several appendices to reference. All of the verbose language, notes, and appendixes are sort of a smoke screen to make you think wow, this sounds really smart instead of, wow, this is really poorly written. This ghost is druuuuunk:

Seth often spells out words or emphasizes things strangely to underscore how much of an interdimensional ghost he is. He refers to Jane as āRuburt,ā which I thought for a long time was him passive-aggressively calling her husband Robert the wrong name. That would have been so cool. I would have more respect for Seth if he were playing dickish power games with his channelerās husband. āSnow shoes? Egg carton. Cuck F. Butts (underlined).ā
Seth takes some time during this book to criticize Jane for not thinking positively enough about the illness that would eventually cause her death. Remember, according to Seth, itās entirely up to you if you want to contract the rheumatoid arthritis that also killed your Mother at a young age.

Itās kind of wild that a multidimensional being would speak standard English so well. I always thought communicating with ghosts would be difficult because they would be all, ādoth thou wishest to feel better? Then simply gaze upon thine inner desire to be less of a little bitch.ā Seth uses big words and repeats himself a lot, but other than that, his modern English is amazing. If my grandpa came back from the dead to call me a pussy for suffering from a debilitating illness, this is exactly what it would sound like.
The book also features some of Buttās original artwork. Itās generally pictures of things from his dreams that he interprets as prophetic or meaningful in some way which sucks because his idea of meaningful is āprominent triangle ā maybe gift.ā Itās also very clearly just a fun way for Robert to get his artwork out there. He mainly paints men and women who look like department store mannequins from the extra thick neck department.

He created the 1940 āCaptain Marvelā character in 1968 and then again in 1980! Heās not sure if they are related, but if they are itās definitely magical. Yet somehow this work of art inspired people so much that Sethās teachings are still thriving today. The Seth Center in New York teaches online classes on everything from lucid dreaming to losing weight with Seth! Yep, this ghost hauled his ass back from the afterlife to do what Richard Simmons can do without dying.

Seth teaches that we are all reincarnated interdimensional consciousness. He also teaches no fatties. This work spoke to so many people because it was the first time a cult was available through the mail. Somehow no one had thought of this scam before, and it really resonated with a lot of people who wanted to be told what to do by a ghost.
Jane used Sethās money to fund her and Robertās other artistic pursuits. Robert always refers to his occupation as āpainter,ā but since I have seen his paintings, Iām going to assume he wasnāt making a ton of money off of that. The Seth Center is selling some of his original artwork of Seth for $450, along with comments from Seth about the work. (He called it gauche).

Jane was also a prolific poet and author. Her writing included a fictional series called Oversoul Seven And The Museum Of Time, which she described as a fictional continuation of the ideas from her non-fiction work by Seth. Man, you didnāt even have to try to do cons in the ā60s. She basically said this time, itās not the ghost writing the book; itās me making it up! And everyone was fine with that? This truly was the golden age of scamming people into paying for a ghost to be mean to them.

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Comments
I actually remember this crap from old Art Bell shows.
Former Fish Farmer
2023-05-19 01:36:09 +0000 UTCI hope someone told him he was being kicked in the nuts because he'd chosen to be a total cunt before he was born.
Matt Edwards
2023-05-16 21:00:16 +0000 UTCAlso not-dying-wise.
Matt Pedone
2023-05-16 16:08:25 +0000 UTCThis might be unkind, but if that picture is accurate, Seth doesn't seem to have practiced what he preached exercise-wise.
FancyShark
2023-05-16 04:37:50 +0000 UTCPictured mike tyson reading that.
Elgofo
2023-05-15 22:19:05 +0000 UTCWhen I was a kid I went to a summer camp for children with a specific genetic disease, and one of the counselors believed this kind of thing. He told me that everyone chooses their parents/families/lives before birth, and that we had chosen to have this profound disability because we wanted people to feel sorry for us. Then he couldn't figure out why he wasn't invited back to camp the next year.
Bonnybedlam
2023-05-15 22:05:43 +0000 UTCYes I knew a Seth I too thought he was maybe magical but it turned out he just got his ears pinned back over the summer
sissyneck
2023-05-15 20:55:41 +0000 UTCLook, Just because the previous...[light googling]... 110 000 000 000 people who ever lived weren't thinking positively enough to avoid death, doesn't mean that happy thoughts won't protect me from it. Am I essentially betting that I am better than literally the rest of humanity? Well, yes, but I have some advantages they didn't: 1- Most of them didn't know that positive thinking would save their lives. 2- I don't understand how science, statistics, or even basic numbers work. 2- I massively overestimate my own abilities, and ignore my many, many flaws. 2- There's no forfeit if I lose. Other than death, which I'd get anyways.
The Parallel Viewmaster
2023-05-15 19:46:52 +0000 UTCIts also interesting to compare this to last week's evangelical Christian theorizing about occult propaganda in cartoons. I know that evangelical Christians also hate new age stuff, but not in proportion to how large it is. Given the choice between criticizing the Thundercats and a decades long scam to separate gullible people from their money, they will choose to zero in on some random piece of pop culture. And I think the reason for that is the best way to debunk new age stuff is through critical thinking--- which is a tool that most evangelical Christians don't want people to be using. (My apologies for serious posting)
Matthew Harris
2023-05-15 17:50:25 +0000 UTCJane's predictions read like Mario got a hold of her notes, translated them into Polish, then translated them back. Are we sure there is not a "Generally pubic mound" in there somewhere?
Jeff Orasky
2023-05-15 17:04:11 +0000 UTCYou have to kind of admire the dedication to the scam. Upon Jane's death, they could have easily written a note about how Jane connected Seth and Bobby Butts so that her husband could continue to convey Seth's message, or any of a handful of other explanations. Instead, they went with, "I found her notes". I guess there had already been others claiming to communicate with Seth, so this protected Jane's writings as the "authentic" works. EGG CARTON
Matt Pedone
2023-05-15 16:51:59 +0000 UTCI wonder if the people using their website realize they're engaging in cyberseth.
Skebotron
2023-05-15 16:37:34 +0000 UTCSounds like you don't need no instructions to know how to ROCK.
CHAUGGLE
2023-05-15 14:57:53 +0000 UTCI used to order pornographic catalogs under the name Carl Brutananadilewski just for kicks.
LyraV
2023-05-15 14:48:15 +0000 UTCAll Butt's imaginary characters attended Henry Rollins' School of Neck.
Aaron Russell
2023-05-15 13:34:08 +0000 UTCBob F. Butts is, well, WAS, my anonymous hotel check-in name and hilarious bowling name. Now, all ruined. Thanks a ton, Lydia.
CHAUGGLE
2023-05-15 13:28:46 +0000 UTC