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I don't know man. I gave up
Sydney Horton
2023-07-15 00:34:45 +0000 UTCNever said it was a spoiler. It’s a “favorite read” which I thought would accurately be understood as “fan theory”. Sorry for the confusion!
Virginia Wilson
2023-07-15 00:25:44 +0000 UTCI can only assume this is a fake spoiler because if you've watched the show you know this isn't true.
Amy Petty
2023-07-15 00:24:18 +0000 UTCWho was talking about Zuko? Are you referring to Azulon saying "why are you wasting my time with this pomp?" Because no, he wasn't. He was seeing through Ozai's bullshit. Ozai didn't intend to have Zuko demonstrate anything, he only wanted to show off Azula because he considers her an impressive prodigy and he wanted to get on Azulon's good side - hence the bit about stressing that Azula was named for her grandfather. But Azulon recognized exactly what Ozai was doing - he knew damn well that Ozai was trying to butter him up for something. People really do seem to think he said "Why are you wasting my time with this PUP" i.e. Zuko, but he actually did say "pomp," referring to the whole affair, not Zuko at all. You can see that much just from watching the subtitles.
Amy Petty
2023-07-15 00:22:21 +0000 UTCAzula doesn't genuinely want to play with Zuko in that scene. She's very obviously manipulating their mother to force him to play so that she can humiliate both Zuko and Mai - and the show NEVER shows her trying to get Zuko to date Mai. It's got absolutely nothing to do with wanting to play with her brother. That said, you're right that people ought to be able to read between the lines and figure out that Azula is every bit as much a victim of abuse as Zuko is. Her psychopathy doesn't come from nothing. It's clearly a survival mechanism she learned from being Ozai's favored child and seeing exactly how that man treated what he perceived as weakness in Zuko. I'll also note that it's not about siding with the parent who praises her against the one who punishes. After all, Zuko desperately sought out his father's love despite being subjected to egregious punishment. It's more that Azula wants to avoid Ozai's specific *brand* of punishment. She doesn't fear Ursa or being punished by Ursa.
Amy Petty
2023-07-15 00:13:35 +0000 UTCAnd yet that's both still an incorrect explanation of what happened and also completely unnecessary. People can just shut up and let the guys watch the show - it provides MORE than enough context for them to figure it out without people feeling like they have to spell it out when the guys aren't even asking y'all do to so!
Amy Petty
2023-07-15 00:10:51 +0000 UTCWhy do you and other people insist on spelling out these spoilers? Come ON.
Amy Petty
2023-07-15 00:09:31 +0000 UTC....You say you're sorry but you left the spoiler intact?!
Amy Petty
2023-07-15 00:07:38 +0000 UTCPeople seem to think he said "pup." That's where the confusion comes from, I think. They hear "pup" and think he's insulted by Zuko instead of recognizing that Ozai is trying to butter him up.
Amy Petty
2023-07-15 00:06:03 +0000 UTCSpeak for yourself. A lot of us defend her, including a few people right here in these comments. Not because Azula is not a psycho - she very much is. But she's also a fourteen year old child and her behavior doesn't come from nothing. She's not a bitch, she's an abuse victim who behaves the way she does because she internalized that this is how she's best able to survive. She is every bit as much a survivor of trauma as Zuko is because she grew up in exactly the same abusive environment he did. The only difference between them is in how their traumas manifest.
Amy Petty
2023-07-15 00:01:53 +0000 UTCThis gets explained more in the Avatar comics, specifically the search, but as implied here Zuko's mom does kill Fire Lord Azulon in order to protect Zuko.
Gene
2023-05-30 23:22:24 +0000 UTCYeah something about the poetry of it really appeals to me (in addition to screwing over Ozai, of course).
Virginia Wilson
2023-05-17 02:41:28 +0000 UTCThat would actually kind of be a big "f you" to Ozai. Iroh is next in line to be Fire Lord, and then Zuko is considered Iroh's heir so even if Ozai did something like assassinate Iroh, the title would still skip Ozai
No Consequence
2023-05-16 21:13:16 +0000 UTC"Explicitly" is a strong word, it's only slightly less vague in Season 3 and depending on how long it takes to get to that point you might not even remember the suspicious circumstances enough to realize what exactly is being said
No Consequence
2023-05-16 21:11:18 +0000 UTCSPOILEEER
Federico Carnebale
2023-05-14 20:40:20 +0000 UTCAzula has clearly never liked Zuko, no spoilers but it’s not as simple as “she’s a psycho”. People don’t seem to really understand how empathy is actually a skill that needs to be developed, especially when you’re young. Ursa looks after Zuko because of the way Ozai neglects him. As a result he learns about caring for others. She doesn’t bother with Azula because Ozai favors her, and who is Ozai? A dictatorial warlord that sees empathy as a weakness. We see Zuko jealous of how Azula has their father’s approval, but you can also interpret Azula’s attitude towards their own mother as something similar, just instead of being angry about it she acts like she’s too good for it and they’re better off without her.
GraffitiTurtle
2023-05-12 05:02:49 +0000 UTCBruh, this is explained in season 3 explicitly. Stop posting spoilers when you can let people just watch the show
Lews
2023-05-04 05:07:31 +0000 UTCIt's not a spoiler, the show would have come out and say it if it weren't for Nick's censors, that's the ONLY reason people are ever confused. All the context is provided in the episode and very infamously no further context is ever provided until the comics.
Kendorable
2023-04-13 22:23:18 +0000 UTCexactly, this is why I think it's weird people are calling the clarification 'spoilers', the show literally never explicitly states what happened because to do so wouldn't get past Nick's censors. This episode is 95% of the context we have other than the comics, everything they've seen is all they need to understand and they didn't so it's 100% fair for people to clarify in this case.
Kendorable
2023-04-13 22:15:53 +0000 UTCI normally am super careful about spoilers but this is different-- the show is trying so hard to show the audience what happened while getting past Nickelodeon's censors. The day this episode premiered, I was about 12 or so, my mother immediately explained to me "his mother killed the grandfather and had to leave so she wouldn't be punished for the crime".
Kendorable
2023-04-13 22:11:07 +0000 UTCThis is unfortunately one of the times the show has to be vague bc of Nickelodeon's censors, it's implied Ursa, Zuko's mother, killed Azulon so that Ozai would not have to kill Zuko, and then had to run away to avoid execution. I never would have understood this as a kid but my mother explained it to me since it was one of the only TV shows I liked that she'd watch with me.
Kendorable
2023-04-13 22:01:46 +0000 UTCI didn’t quite understand this watching it as a kid, but I’m starting to realize that Azula and Ozai are the first example I’ve seen in a kid show of hereditary psychosis
JRax 17
2023-04-13 19:11:23 +0000 UTCIt is said in the show just at a later time.
Santiago
2023-04-13 03:35:24 +0000 UTCher getting them in the water together was so innocent like you can hate her but she did want those two to date ! she literally planned it with ty lee because of mai’s crush on him…
Kailey Anne
2023-04-12 18:06:43 +0000 UTCI had an aneurysm looking at this, cuz I thought you were me 🤣
Courtney
2023-04-12 16:47:44 +0000 UTCJust keep in mind what Ursa says when we first meet her: Zuko, that's what moms are like. If you mess with their babies, they're going to bite you back
Anna H
2023-04-12 16:32:29 +0000 UTCMhm! I adore her, and it's such a great way to stay spoiler free. I just didn't wanna name her bc I wasn't sure how they feel about mentioning other reactors in their comments. Like if it'd be considered advertising another channel or anything ^^
Honey
2023-04-12 16:27:24 +0000 UTCYeah, Azulon had SOME principals and morals despite being a conqueror. Ozai and Azula are just another breed of psycho.
Multxverse
2023-04-12 16:01:27 +0000 UTCAs you can see, Avatar establishes very early on that anything animal can fuck any animal.
Multxverse
2023-04-12 15:52:41 +0000 UTCGood ol' Wee Lass Reacts
Multxverse
2023-04-12 15:16:50 +0000 UTCSeriously this is such an overlooked line. The very first flashback of the episode tells us everything we need to know; when a child gets messed with/threatened, the mother bites back.
memoir_of_a_daydream
2023-04-12 10:30:29 +0000 UTCThe one piece that people are missing. Is that intern for Zuko’s mom to kill Azulon she was banished which is why you see her leave in the middle of the night.
Courtney
2023-04-12 04:24:56 +0000 UTCI can see making a case that most of the time, insulting a little kid could be off putting given they are a kid..... but this is Azula, calling her a psychotic bitch is just stating facts. She is pretty much a textbook sociopath. And again this episode shows that 1. Deep down Zuko is a good person who is just struggling to find his way. 2. Ozai is a shortsighted idiot. If he ever cared about more then just raw firebending skill, and actually encouraged Zuko's other training, or just not been a dick his whole life to him, he'd have one of the best damn assassins on the planet working for him.
Seraphem
2023-04-12 04:21:13 +0000 UTCExcept that wasn't her just wanting to play with him to be nice, or actually wanting to help set him up, she just wanted an excuse to humiliate him and make him look like a fool.
Seraphem
2023-04-12 04:05:31 +0000 UTCruffs' new hairdo looks really nice
Geo Beast
2023-04-12 03:49:25 +0000 UTCMy favorite read of the Azulon situation is that it was a BIG game of telephone. What Azula heard was that Ozai was going to lose his firstborn son and heir, but she does NOT quite Azulon as having ordered Ozai to murder Zuko. She makes an assumption as to what that means (and goes for the worst option bc she’s sadistic). I prefer to believe Azulon meant that he would be taking Zuko and adopting him into Iroh’s bloodline. But Azula makes an assumption, passes the info to Zuko and Ursa like it’s fact, Ursa goes to Ozai and begs for Zuko’s life, at which point he realizes he can sweep the board and tells her he will spare Zuko if she poisons Azulon - and then banishes her, so no one can ever learn the truth.
Virginia Wilson
2023-04-12 01:58:26 +0000 UTCThey're explaining the stuff this episode didn't go into detail about when it's already explained later.
Gestrid
2023-04-11 23:02:44 +0000 UTCThis is my favorite episode. The pacing and story telling is just so good. Sadly Zuko didn't quite understand what his mother meant when she told him not to forget who he was. It wasn't about his title, it was about who he was as a person.
Shay-Thelogicaldreamer
2023-04-11 22:13:20 +0000 UTCUrsa's killing of Azulon was confirmed by the creators years before The Search came out. Her fate afterwards is what was left ambiguous.
DementisXYZ
2023-04-11 21:48:11 +0000 UTC1) don’t spoil stuff here come on, 2) he was 100% talking about zuko
justin trimble
2023-04-11 21:44:39 +0000 UTC|| i respect if y’all don’t like her btw || Honestly this episode made me sympathize with Azula. She’s a child getting conflicting definitions of right and wrong from her parents and obviously she would side with the parent who praises her (Ozai) rather than the parent who punishes her (Ursa). Ozai is shown to pit his kids against each other in this episode and I think that contributed to why Azula seems to hate Zuko. She likes to play with him as a kid (as shown in a past flashback and in this episode for 0.3 seconds lol) and even tried to get him to date one of her close friends. I don’t think she would do that if she truly hated him. We don’t really know what Ozai has been telling Azula…
Kailey Anne
2023-04-11 21:34:59 +0000 UTCknowing the answers and just keeping my mouth shut lol
pollyy clunes
2023-04-11 20:07:38 +0000 UTCWait which dramatic moment are you talking about?
Asad Khabir
2023-04-11 19:43:22 +0000 UTCIroh mentions that his son has passed away, at the end of season 1. Now we know how.
William Timmins
2023-04-11 19:29:24 +0000 UTCA Good way to avoid spoilers in the comments is to ask viewers to leave fake spoilers and head canons at the end of each video. Another reactor I watch does this, and it not only prevents her knowing what's real and fake, but helps boost the video in the algorithm on youtube as well. It's also super fun for the community to come up with fake spoilers and stuff. Just as a suggestion if you guys wanted to try it out! Bc I hate seeing you get spoiled.
Honey
2023-04-11 19:13:09 +0000 UTCDone! SORRY!! 😅😬
Jesus Zavala
2023-04-11 18:56:20 +0000 UTCYeah I agree they never explained what happened to her until later so maybe remove that part at least
KaitouKay1412
2023-04-11 18:36:32 +0000 UTCThe comics are full of info thats supposed to be known AFTER you finish the series. Dont go jumping the gun by confirming theories and giving future info, it ruins the experience for them
Deiondre0
2023-04-11 18:26:02 +0000 UTCThis will always be my favorite Zuko episode. And yeah, years of prejudice/hate for the Fire Nation isn't going to go away because of one firebender you befriended for like a day or two. So it pains me, but Lee turning his back on Zuko makes soooo much sense. That ending shot of Zuko leaving town with the sunset and music...so beautiful
William. C
2023-04-11 18:19:19 +0000 UTCGood job spoiling a major dramatic moment in Book 3, y'all. You don't need to correct or provide an answer for everything, people. Just shut up and let them watch the show!
rrrebo
2023-04-11 18:17:56 +0000 UTCNo one's gonna really defend her she is a bitch
Poet
2023-04-11 18:13:31 +0000 UTCIts not really said in show unless they were to read the comics
Mugiwara1295
2023-04-11 18:12:13 +0000 UTCSeeohknee is the one correct
Mugiwara1295
2023-04-11 18:11:14 +0000 UTCazula is a bitch tho a strong one
logan
2023-04-11 18:06:23 +0000 UTCZuko's mom killed Grandpa. And remember that ever since Iroh lost his son, he thinks of Zuko as his own.
Sydney Horton
2023-04-11 18:06:16 +0000 UTCShould we tell them what happened with Grandpa Azulan or should we wait for them to finish the series? Edit: Nevermind, people are saying it anyway
Sydney Horton
2023-04-11 18:04:23 +0000 UTC“Zuko, that’s what moms are like. If you mess with their babies, NYOM, they’ll bite you back”
Courtney
2023-04-11 18:01:55 +0000 UTCAs mentioned above, the story about Zuko's mom is covered in the comics. Also, don't know if y'all noticed but Azula hadn't yet developed her blue flames yet.
hurryupmode
2023-04-11 18:01:14 +0000 UTCthey dont know what happened to his mom, maybe edit that last part out
Ricky Faber
2023-04-11 17:58:43 +0000 UTCYall got no filter with spoilers omg. Cmon guys let them figure stuff out like we did when we watched for the first time
Deiondre0
2023-04-11 17:55:52 +0000 UTCSeeohknee actually got it right. Zuko's dad was actually going to kill zuko to become the firelord, so his mom killed the grandpa save zuko.
Ricky Faber
2023-04-11 17:55:09 +0000 UTCDamn! SeeOhKnee got it right just like that! Ursa did kill Azulon so Ozai would be fire lord and not kill Zuko!
Jesus Zavala
2023-04-11 17:50:32 +0000 UTCNot a spoiler: that scene is pretty blatantly "Ursa killed Azulon to save Zuko". That's how you are meant to read it.
Fabbrizio Plays
2023-04-11 17:41:39 +0000 UTCWhen he said get this pomp put of here he meant ozai trying to butter him up before asking for something, it wasn't about zuko.
TrixieTurner
2023-04-11 17:37:21 +0000 UTCSeeOhKnee was right. Zuko's mom killed Azulon so Ozai wouldn't have to kill Zuko.
Bazil
2023-04-11 17:35:58 +0000 UTCThere's a comic that takes place after the show that explains what happened to zukos mom, yall should do a read along for it after you finish the show but before you start korra
Unstablebeast
2023-04-11 17:34:18 +0000 UTCYeah baby the best episode of season 2.
TrixieTurner
2023-04-11 17:03:42 +0000 UTC
