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Hello there :o

Lately, I got a lot of things going on IRL (canon events o.O), and as you may notice things didn't go as "smoothly" as I wanted when making the mod. Things also got more complicated in the mod than usual o.o

So since I keep thinking about what I should do, if I should keep everyone waiting until I think everything is "perfect", changing some things here and there, testing and all that. I thought it would be better to ask people for opinions/suggestions about how the quest is working for them, after all, the mod was made and tweaked thanks to what people comment about it :P

LINK:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1P7TnJ-En9JQHdTMkqghmy1FXsz22yb9w/view?usp=sharing

There are still some missing routes and dialogues but the general idea of the quest is there.

I also recommend this for the ones that don't mind testing stuff :P

NEW GAME REQUIRED but since it's also about Ethel Quest it's not that bad I suppose.

This beta also includes the voiced dialogues made by Arkantas for the main quest. I think there are mostly covered so you can also just use the voice folder if you just need that.

Thanks again for the support and let me know what you think about the changes to the quest. ;)

P.S: I need to take more pics :P

TIP:

*Celia    xxde0d31

*Delilah  xxde0d32

*Cathryne xxde0d33

For prid command after that enable and moveto player 

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Comments

Ok im still struggling to get her to be inslaved. Suspicion is over 150 and she talked to cathrine and cielia. Anything im missing?

Randolph T Schreck

I have exactly the same problem. Nehsyaris is not responding to me at all.

William Zhuang

Yup, Arabella will be next :P

Kozuke Hajime

Yup, its the same so you can check that in the quest log.

Kozuke Hajime

Hi Kozuke. May I ask how I can check the suspicion? Is that the same as % of people convince Ethel is slave?

William Zhuang

Hi, Kozuke. Finally manage to get one of the endings for Ethel. The mod is great, It manages to let us get some background story about Ethel's father, Jack perfectly. And explain his obsession with Yurian (the red hair girl). Too bad we have to wait some time to play with Ignith's quest, as you mentioned your next task has something to do with wizard girl.

William Zhuang

I resolve the problem with kythilea but It was strange because the ending dialogue for ending the chain quest for dibella priestress with yuriana came late altough I ended all the quest way before

Gary gordinne

I don't think so but I will reduce the effect time and magnitude. For now, people can use remove the effect using commands or use the resurrect command on the player to remove it.

Kozuke Hajime

I think its the same issue with Neshyahris, checking that o.o

Kozuke Hajime

Hi, Kozuke. Thank you for your mod. I think the status of Bitten Flesh last way too long and the effect to reduce health is way too high if your player's level is not high enough. My character is now level 15 and yet I cannot try to speak to Ignith the third time without the effect of the second time to complete gone, which I still have to wait another 5 more hours. And I cannot use the console to resurrect my character because that effect reduce my character's health to -75. If I use the console command to resurrect my PC, I got instant CTD. Is that possible to allow the hours of sleeping to be counted as well?

William Zhuang

I have also a problem with forgotten damsels when I bring kythilea to the temple nothing happens

Gary gordinne

I only start a new major Skyrim save every year or so so I'm waiting for a more complete build of BWY for my next game

Carl

experiencing all of the same problems.

Randolph T Schreck

I'm still stuck at this part after testing I can choose the 2 inn endings and talk to wenches but after it's in a sort of loop and it restart the objective to talk to 8 people in broad daylight I'll speedrun a new save to test if I have the same problem I have another bug after undressing the jarl in subjugated slave Nehsyaris don't give me the whip and the dialogue stop at Dont speak to me so casually

Gary gordinne

No worry with "rescue" I meant I did enslave her. Now if I could make a suggestion regarding consequences, only if you don't plan to add that already. If the player chooses to enslave Ethel, after some time a band of thugs/mercenaries would show up telling us they were sent to kill us. After dispatching all of them the leader could have a note on him revealing that your added NPC in Rorikstead banded together to hire an entire group of mercenaries to kill the player and claim Ethel for them self. That could end there as just some more information or maybe the attacks could continue until the player deals in some way with those NPCs.

Boret

setstage YW_Quest_BFG 45 should complete the day parade part. you can also check the stages of the quest using sqs YW_Quest_BFG

Kozuke Hajime

It should give you a bounty if you enslave her but if you are just saving her then no. if you got it here then its a mistake O.o Yeah that part still has some mixing things since at first I didn't include Ingith but I think she should try to rescue Ethel first. Her dialogues are missing and other stuff too :P

Kozuke Hajime

Alright found her, "rescued" her and finished the quest. But for the Questlog the description for me only mentioned that Ethel let herself get captured and Ingith is nowhere to be found. The targets only stated that: people are convinced that the player and the bandits forced Ethel to act as a slave. Ethel thinking about letting herself be captured (completed objective). Ethel wants to talk to 2 Wenches (completed objective). How high the suspicion is. As far as I can say Ethel only mentions in dialog where the mine is. After finishing that Quest branch I'm really looking forward what you do next and I also like what you did with Ingith in this branch and it's implication. Now I'm patiently going to wait until you finish this update to experience the completed quest. Also does this end give you a bounty cause after that a guard came up to me and tried to arrest me?

Boret

Well I have sexlab and flowergirls correctly installed I don't understand either Can I have the command for the next step then ?

Gary gordinne

She is at the mine south of Rorikstead, I remember I did mention that in the questlog.

Kozuke Hajime

Mmm I will check, after the dont talk dialogue a sex animation or implied sex should start then she should have a dialogue about stopping the parade similar to the one during the night and the quest should progress there. O.o

Kozuke Hajime

Man I feel stupid, I finally got Ethel to accept being enslaved by bandits. Now I'm wondering where she is because there is no Questmarker. Could you tell me where the bandit camp is located or ist that part missing since you said something about being semi-complete.

Boret

Love what you do. Im excited to see your plans for Arabella

Randolph T Schreck

I can't stop the parade but the behind the inn after her 2-3 quotes the conversation stop at her line Don't talk and then nothing happens

Gary gordinne

Does it still progress? after that you should be able to stop the "parade" O.o

Kozuke Hajime

I think the dialogue should mention more that you need gold. I think people just don't have 1000g to pay lol

Kozuke Hajime

Yeah, I just noticed waiting doesn't count but playing does lol. So I will most likely reduce it to a day and mention Ethel wants to think for some time. playing normally for at least a day could be enough (or even maybe like 12h). I will improve Ingith reduction too since for now it's kind of the only way to reduce the suspicion.

Kozuke Hajime

Yeah this was something people commented on even before the beta, I guess I should change how it works so at least it's a little easier to fix with the setstage command, I will check.

Kozuke Hajime

It was supposed to be like that but yeah I didn't expect it to be that long, Im tweaking it so it reduces less health and it last like a couple of hours max. Since its supposed to be a kind of skip after all :P

Kozuke Hajime

Hi, I just want to ask is the "Bitten Flesh" status relating to Ignith? It says that it will last for 8 hours, but after I slept for 8 hours, it is still there and the time is still 8 hours. Does that mean it is like the 5 days, need to be in actual game 8 hours. Or do you mean 8 days nor 8 hours. I still got the bitten flesh from first night with Ignith and I cannot possible to speak to Ignith for third time to bypass the time because if I do that, I got instant death.

William Zhuang

Hi Koz nothing is happening when I chat with Ethel after the exhibition in daylight After the line: don't talk

Gary gordinne

Maybe I'm just stupid but I can't get that part to work. I realized that spending time with Ingith lowers the suspicion by 5% so I opted to just wait for 5 days. But neither the ingame wait function nor the timescale command trigger Ethel's 5 Days only the Ingith option works for me. So I'm at a loss how to achieve the Bandit option at the end wich I really wanted to test out.

Boret

Hi yes. It is way too long. My one are still no response from Ethel. And I cannot skip by talking to Ingith. No dialogue relating to it.

William Zhuang

So I just checked this and it works when the 5 days pass normally and not when waiting lol. I guess I could reduce it so its at least a few hours or a day :P

Kozuke Hajime

I just tested it and the objective "Ethel has finished thinking and considers what to do next..." Do you have that or what it says in your questlog after you teleport after talking to ingith O.o

Kozuke Hajime

Yea I’m having the same problem as William I talk to Ingith to skip it but my character just teleports to a cave then teleports right back without any progression

MaZe

could you still talk to Ingith to skip it? O.o

Kozuke Hajime

the suspicion needs to be high before the whiterun parade so she doubts doing it but I was thinking I should just remove that condition and make that available whenever or at least she should always bring that up.

Kozuke Hajime

No dice when changing to sexlab ... for the record i use flowergirls. I would not call myself a novice with modding but i have not been able to get the sexlabutility.dll issue sorted out. Not sure how or if that is affecting it.

Randolph T Schreck

Hi, I just try the beta mod. After the first Whiterun quest, my character suppose to wait for 5 days before talk to Ethel. I have waited more than 5 days, but still no new dialogue with Ethel.

William Zhuang

Happy to test things for you. Can I ask how you make Ethel talk to other wenches like Catharyne? I tried it with her following me as companion, slave and squire but nothing. I also teleported her to Ethel during different stages but still nothing.

Boret

Try setting the sex animations to sexlab. I didnt actually changed this but some people had this issue before and that solved it O.o

Kozuke Hajime

ahh right, they should have a special dialogue compared to the other Rorikstead npcs, I will check. Yeah I will change the debuff too :P

Kozuke Hajime

They do work but the bandit part is semi-complete. for the prostitution option, Ethel needs to talk to Cathryne or you could use the lust scroll/spell to make her have sex with a farmer at the bannered tavern in Whiterun. For the bandit part, Ethel needs to talk to Cathryne but not Delilah, and the suspicious needs to be high like 80+

Kozuke Hajime

Yes I am stuck here too

SuC10Sanchez

okay, I managed to "speedrun" the quest and even after getting 100% belief, the bandit option and farm prostitute options were still inaccessible, what am I missing or are those not fully implemented yet?

RHeinz1

After playing for a bit I found an annoying little thing. When parading Ethel during the day those newly added NPC come up to me and say their line about the slave being Ethel to wich I can only answer "Hey...", wich causes them to repeat their line and then gives me the Hey line again ending in an endless loop. That is especially bad when like 3 or more of them get triggered. On another note I really liked the little escapades you can have with Ethel's sister, always wondered where I would end up next. Her debuff on the other Hand is really punishing since neither waiting nor using a god's blessing removed it, you basically have to wait like 8 hours irl unless there is something I missed. Lastly I wanted to ask if there are some new endings already implemented or not.

Boret

Anyone haveingnissues with her after taking her out in broad daylight. Slher dialog hangs up at the sex scene and does not progress

Randolph T Schreck

Ethel is so hot

Chris El


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