Heartstopper *S2 EP7 unedited

u are definitely not ben. in nick and Charlie he beats charlie up for not reason. He is just a bad person

Megan Mcleod

I have BPD and before I had been to doctors and put on medication, I was a mess. I would hurt other people because they hurt me and I want them to feel the way I did. I was actively horrible to people so that no one could reject me or abandon me, I was the one doing the rejecting and being so mean no one wanted to be near me. I resonate with Ben but something I realised is that sometimes you are the bad person in someone's life, you are the one who has hurt people and you can apologise for everything that you have done but the person who has been hurt doesn't owe you anything. They don't owe you forgiveness, they don't have to listen to you. Just because you want closure doesn't mean they have to give you anything. You have to deal with those feelings of guilt forever and the only thing you can do is try to be better.

ChloeReynolds

This episode just ruined me. I was crying the whole way through. Isaac's journey resonates so much with me, even if I'm not aro. Especially when you're a teen and see everyone around you having their first experiences and you're just watching from afar. My first real kiss was a nightmare, I hated it even if I liked the boy in question. I just didn't like him that way. I'm almost 30 now and still figuring out the whole ace thing and what it means for me. I'm still learning. I heard about the word asexual about 3 years ago now, and it was very freeing in a way, reading all about it and seeing other people's experience. It's still hard for me to talk about it, but it gets easier and seeing someone go through a similar journey on screen does help. I think that's why this show is so important. And I think that's why I like Ben's story, even if I absolutely despise the character. I'm a firm believer in people aren't black OR white. Was he out of line with Charlie? Absolutely. Is he a dick most of the time? Yeah. Does he deserve to spend the rest of his life in agony? This is where I'm having a hard time. I 100% get Charlie, and Ben should stay the fuck away from him and all their group. However, I do think he deserves to figure himself out and find people he can trust and be himself around them. BUT, I think the animation is very telling. He has a way of doing it, he is just choosing not to. He is purposely stepping away from embracing himself. As long as he keeps doing that he will never be able to change and evolve. He will always be jealous of people who are confident in their identities, and angry at the world. He will keep using other people to make himself feel better and get his "gay fix". That is horrendous. So yeah. I do think he coul change, but he is not taking the right direction.

Pauline

OMG I thougt Darcy left because of the argument with her mother but seeing it now with you Brad (for the 6th time in generall ;)) I just catch on that the mother actually screamed "get out of my house" or something, so actually kicked her out!!! This breaks my heart

Nicky Van den Bosch

Ultimately, we'll never know what is attributed to his damage from a heternormative society, and what is his own awfulness. I don't think anyone's excusing his actions, or claiming his blameless. We're simply saying that he is also a victim of homophobia in this narrative. "Hurt people hurt people," as psychologists say, and we'll never really know what parts of his choices were internal to him and what are trauma responses. He's still culpable for his actions, regardless, and Charlie was 100% right in putting distance between them and refusing to forgive him. Hopefully that's the rock-bottom moment Ben needed to start a climb towards being better.

Joseph Carriker

I find it interesting how people are so easy to feel sorry for Ben. Despite the fact he attacked Charlie in the library. he had him pinned against the wall and was all over him kissing him despite the fact Charlie told him to stop and to get off. That right there is the definition of SA. Add on his emotional and physcological abuse he put Charlie though. Being confused about your sexuallity dose not give you the right to force yourself onto others. I wonder Charlie had been a girl and Ben had done what he did, would people be so quick to feel sorry for him? How would you have excused his behaviour if he'd forced himself onto a girl, kissed her despite her saying no, get off. Then psycologically abuse her by saying she's ugly, that she's desperate, that no one would want her but him? So quick to put it down to internal homophobia rather then just see Ben for what he is, a manipulative, abusive person.

PuppyDan

I love your empathy for Ben. Because as awful as he's been - and he very much has been awful - it's easy to forget that people who internalize homophobia and then lash out at other queer people are victims of homophobia, too. Marginalized people are always incentivized to lash out at their own as a means of achieving some kind of status in overculture, and are frequently rewarded by the people who do the marginalizing for doing so. If there is a long-lasting struggle with defeating homophobia, it will be to ultimately fight that homophobia which has taken root in queer people, so that we can figure out how to stop hurting one another. Which isn't to say that Charlie is obligated to accept his apology. He's completely right, and I hope that his anger can be an impetus for Ben to really look at who his homophobia has turned him into, and help him find his way out of it in the future.

Joseph Carriker

So I basically cried all season, right from the go I was so overwhelmed with emotions and so bloody excited it just all poured out of me. This is now my 6th go watching the whole season and when Darcy is walking up to the toxic fumes permeating out of her house, I still cried, even on my sixth go, it really just gets me. And then of course I cry at the end when she gets kicked out as well. I thought the way they dealt with Ben was really great, sad to see Sebastian Croft leave the show but I think his was a really important counterpoint arc to explore, not everyone has a straight forward journey to self acceptance and family does play a big part in that. It's interesting though that Darcy is comfortable being out in public despite what she deals with at home, and she has been able to accept being a part of the rainbow community. Ben walking away from an accepting community trying so hard to reach out to him is very telling. I thought when he was "apologising" it was very insincere, the smugness he was able to have in his delivery was so good, like he didn't actually want Charlie back, not really. All season his actions have been selfish and posturing and he just wanted to win, he doesn't actually care about anyone else. He is going to have a very sad life.

Kiki

It is such a good movie!

Amanda Boes

Great movie- I’ve read the book a few times and honestly the movie made some improvements. It was everything I wanted it to be.

Amanda Boes

Didn't cry either...at least not like 1st season. I think you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned the ups and downs coming so fast. Also with the many different story arcs this season, the scenes are a little shorter which I find doesn't give me time to really break down. Still my favourite show....so many nice scenes. If you've read the comics, Charlie's telling off of Ben was actually at Harry with a few minor adjustments. I liked it this way better. I also like the wave of pride colours that reach for Ben. It's kind of telling that even with his apology and wanting to be better, he moved away from the colours...showing that in his heart he really hasn't changed.

Keyoin

Beautifully analyzed! And I agree I think the last episode will move him to tears also!

Meghan Brown

Fucking Brad making my day with these vids “I love being amazing” Ha ha 💀😂

Ashley LeCompte

yeah exactly. i felt bad though because the person i was watching with cried multiple times and made jokes like "haha how aren't you crying" and stuff :(

Kirrilly

I was the same tbh. There were a few scenes in the last few eps especially where I was close but I was just really excited about the new season so I was kind of on a high, and tbh he is kind of right the scenes change so fast and bring out a completely different emotion that just when I find myself tearing up I was fine again or angry etc.

Cheyennenicole97

DONT WORRY BRAD, i didn't cry either. and i genuinely wanted to as well. i was just too excited about the new season.

Kirrilly

Love your reaction as always! Funny how you basically predict things moments before they happen lol! The purple animation at Darcy’s door was to me a fantastic visual illustration of the toxicity at home, permeating all around a place where she doesn’t feel safe. I could soooo relate… Tori was simple epic in this Roy, and Charlie’s confrontation with Ben, ending in the visual invitation to join the queer community (rainbow) that Ben walked away from was so powerful! David is a complete bellend, but how amazing was Nick in standing up for himself to both him and their dad! I’m predicting that the last episode might move you to tears, but I guess we’ll see!

Rowan Murphy

If you look in the background at the art show when Sahar, Imogen, Darcy, and Tara are having a chat about Sahar being Bi, there is an art piece that is actually a silhouette of Tara and Darcy’s kiss from Harry’s Birthday Party in Season 1.

Cheyennenicole97

I’m waiting for episode 8

Aaron Hughes

This episode shot Tori straight to number 1 character for me.

Anthony Brown

I just can’t wait to see what happens in season 3 now 🌈🏳️‍🌈❤️

Stevie Burgess

it’s TGF bro merch they’re not problematic dw♥️ great youtubers lol

faith ramage

I have to say that this episode 7 has to be my favourite... I just loved the whole lot.. Ben stepping away from the 🌈🌈 spoke volumes. That dinner party though!!! I wished I had been there..lol.. Tori with the brother.. epic!! ( When Ben says he isn't staying for six form..well I'm not sure that will be the case. I don't believe Ben..I think he will be in season 3 ) ❤ 🌈🌈

Dawn Nicholson

I'm glad we got a brief glimpse into Ben's slow road to acceptance, but not a full redemption story. The scene was beautifully acted by both Joe and Sebastian. When Ben said to Nick in France that he wanted Charlie back that was not a joke. When he began his apology I think he felt he was being sincere, it just wasn't thought through from any perspective but his own. Even then he failed to see how he hurt Charlie. "I really liked you, if I had just had more time." "I want to be like you two, but my parents would never accept who I really am." "I wanted something good. You were something good." I, I, I... The little smiles on Ben's face as he slowly got out what he was saying showed us that he thought he was doing a good thing. Then when Charlie said, "Do you remember the first time you kissed me?" and Ben smiled as he thought of it. That smile vanished in seconds when Charlie continued and he realized Charlie was not having it. There have been comments online that people feel Charlie was too cold in this scene. I disagree. Look at Charlie's face when Ben says his parents would never accept him. He feels bad for him there. Charlie does wish Ben well, just not in his orbit. That rainbow river moment choked me up.

Mike

Don’t wanna get flamed, but I think Bens character is so complex and tragic. I totally agree that he doesn’t need a redemption arc but this episode did make me hurt for him and want him to be better. Happy for Charlie’s sake that he won’t be in season three, and I hope Bash gets more opportunities in the future because he is such a talented actor.

Cayce Carson

Thank you so much for letting me know!!

BTS STAN

I completely agree with you, not sad for Ben, but I am sad for Bash that this was last season :(

Roosmarijn

For real. Darcy is a perfect example. And if he had actively tried to be a better person this season it would have been different. But he was a dick the whole way through… He’s just an asshole, plain and simple. Though he did apologise, so that’s something I guess. But Charlie doesn’t owe him forgiveness.

Sofia

On YouTube comments he said he was going to when he gets back from holiday!

Taylor Lencioni

Brad are you going to watch Red White and Royal Blue? I would love to see your reaction to it💕

BTS STAN

I got dragged for not crying during "Up", so I get it. I LOVED this episode. Some people were mad about Charlie not accepting Ben's apology. NO! When someone offers a genuine apology, they do not expect forgiveness at the end. Ben only said it to make himself feel better and to justify his behavior as being "not so bad" if Charlie forgave him right away. His apology had nothing to do with Charlie, and everything to do with himself. It's true that Ben probably felt genuinely bad, but him talking to Charlie only came about because of jealousy, and he NEVER TOOK ACCOUNTABILITY FOR ASSAULTING CHARLIE. He didn't even acknowledge it. He minimized his bad behavior the entire apology. Charlie had every right not to forgive Ben. *Mild graphic novel spoiler* I'm glad they altered the show to this from the similar scene with Harry in the graphic novels.

Mandi Mateer

I'm so NOT READY for his reaction to the last episode. It ended me entirely!!!

MuteStone

Watching this in the car on the way to the beach ♡ it's 🔥like usual!

Deseree Maree

Tgf aren't problematic dw you're safe!! The hoodie slays though

youngroyalslover

Pretty sure it's TGF bro merch? Idk if they're problematic I used to watch them all the time. Love the hoodie though ahah

Larna Dawn

Omg you're so right 🥹🥹

youngroyalslover

I only picked up on this on my latest rewatch! Knowing what she makes, when the Louve ep was up she made an expression of "inspiration" and it clicked for me ❤️

Michael D

Did you notice how Elle's artpiece resembles the piece she was looking at in the Louvre? :)

Roosmarijn

omg the last episode, noooo! I've already finished the season multiple times and I'm getting sad again that all the reaction Chanels are also coming to an end on the episodes

Michael Penson

so glad ben isn't getting a redemption arc. he was a prick the entire season and then asks for forgiveness? that's not it. make an effort to be better. nobody asks for him to come out, just to be a nice person and he wasn't. darcy comes from an abusive house and its a perfect example of how not to be an asshole

CAMILA

Bash has said he’s not in season 3. I’m so sad for him as an actor because I think he deserves to portray a character arc that I didn’t think Ben deserved until I saw this episode.

Amy Carter

This episode was so good, can't wait for your reaction to the final one!!

Larna Dawn

can we also give props to the soundtrack this season? hot damn, it has me in my feels, they nailed it.

edirekt

This!!! It was an incredible movie

youngroyalslover

You WILL cry in the last episode i promise cuz I was sobbing.

Riley

I DEFINITELY think you should watch red white and royal blue after this!! honestly ruined me in the best way possible 🥲

Millie Lewis

I love it☺️☺️

Justin Mignone

It's definitely a happy sad knowing the next reaction is the last last one but IM SO FUCKING EXCITED 😱😱

youngroyalslover

This ep 🥹🫶

CAMILA

I CANT WAIT TO SEE THE EDITED VERSION OF THIS IM GONNA BE OBSESSED ALL OVER AGAIN

Amerah Milan

penultimate ep!!!! going to miss these 🫶🏼🫶🏼🫶🏼🫶🏼🫶🏼

neve x

yes yes and yes!! I literally rolled off my bed in excitement

Real_Amy_Jones

YEAAASSSS

Jess M.C

tgf? what? lol

Brad Evans

AHHHH SO FUCKING EXCITED!!! 💚💚

Hannah Bond

youngroyalslover