She-ra s5 ep11 Failsafe Full, Early, Uncut
Added 2024-03-11 17:00:08 +0000 UTCOH MY GOD THESE BLOODY USELESS SAPPHICS I FUCKING CAHNTTTTTTTTTTT SOMEONE HELP ME.
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Omg mosco did a American accent omg performance issues she said in American accent
MoMo Tempest🏳️🌈
2024-09-22 01:18:32 +0000 UTCOh for sure
Eniloj2005
2024-04-06 22:33:33 +0000 UTCI personally think Catra has been in love with Adora since they were little kids.
Eliteguard99
2024-03-27 13:25:05 +0000 UTCPlease... PLEASE... include your "Poor Catra" moment when you upload this to YouTube, even if you immediately follow it with "Not that I'm feeling sorry for her..."
Whiskey Jak
2024-03-26 08:44:22 +0000 UTCFor the record, I'm a puppy. Probably, like, a golden retriever puppy: always anxious to please and baffled when my human is upset with something I did during my latest shenanigans.
Whiskey Jak
2024-03-26 08:29:38 +0000 UTCThis episode is so important because you really see how much influence she has over Catra and Adora. SW immediately disregards Catra and puts her down, and puts all the Blame of failure on Adora's shoulders. Seeing this just really makes you realize that both of them have dealt with this literally their whole lives. And God, everytime they have a moment of closeness SW just can't leave them the fuck alone.
Sarah
2024-03-23 14:17:13 +0000 UTCyou can see it on her face , she wants to say sth else , but she really thinks what she wants doesn’t matter, its what she NEEDS to do, its why she reverts to that every time, just like Catra she thinks she doesn’t matter, its only what she has to do as She-ra thats important, her feelings cannot get in the way of her duty. Catra isn’t the only one Shadow Weaver messed up.
Attila Kos
2024-03-17 08:24:55 +0000 UTC“She-ra only works when Adora needs to protect her friends” how fitting that her sword is named “the Sword of Protection” 😁 (Albeit not named in this show AFAIK, but in the He-man mythos his sword is the sword of power while she-ra’s is the sword of protection. This sword shares obvious traits with the sword of protection like the transforming into different items, so its safe to assume its the same one)
Attila Kos
2024-03-17 07:48:34 +0000 UTCNot them hitting us with the "please, stay" again 😭
Celereon
2024-03-16 12:01:19 +0000 UTC28:32 - Unexpected American Accent!
Panic Blitz
2024-03-15 01:33:19 +0000 UTCI think shadow weaver is more brutally honest than a bitch but yeah I get it. Also Adora and Catra are so cute.
ELS_Art
2024-03-15 00:43:59 +0000 UTCI'd like to flag this comment for cruel and unusual observations :P
Porpoise Power
2024-03-14 14:16:02 +0000 UTCWho had jump into fire rewatches @ 2? Also Youtube Edit needs a "Stupid/useless sapphics" counter
Porpoise Power
2024-03-14 14:15:08 +0000 UTCI think the reason they made shadow waiver. Such a detestable character in this is to do exactly what adora had said. she was the lesser of two evils. To heighten your liking for catra.
Nammers Troutman
2024-03-13 15:08:17 +0000 UTCLol "the I really like adora, and adora likes her" mentality is why shadow weaver kept catra around in this first place. You thinking like Shadow Weaver
Nammers Troutman
2024-03-13 14:59:08 +0000 UTCNothing's more useless to a manipulator than the manipulatee (totally a word...) who's decided not to be manipulated anymore. Really, they're just one more threat at that point.
Mahlernut
2024-03-13 02:28:04 +0000 UTCFrom Season 1, episode 2: Adora: “I’m saying this is wrong. They’ve been lying to us, manipulating us. Hordak, Shadow Weaver, all of them.” Catra: “Duh. Did you just figure that out? Manipulation is Shadow Weaver’s whole thing. She’s been messing with our heads since we were kids.”
Tabatha Cat
2024-03-13 02:03:23 +0000 UTCI feel like we've always know that Shadow Weaver is manipulative and abusive, but this is where it's displayed more clear. The closest we saw was when escaping from her cell with flashbacks teaching Micah. It gives us the true extent of how she treated Catra and Adora. We've always seen it separate, never really seen the dynamic of abuse together throughout an entire episode. And she's manipulated others but it's been done so disguised in the way of aid that we gloss it over.
SGM
2024-03-12 22:52:26 +0000 UTCLast I checked was about a year ago and he was I think 3/4 of the way done with book 6.
Jenny D
2024-03-12 21:38:06 +0000 UTCOhhhhh, gotcha. Gawd, it's been a long time since I read those books. Is Martin even pretending that he's still writing them?
Mahlernut
2024-03-12 21:09:24 +0000 UTCTrue, though that was more of a "no, me first" situation. And as the adult in the room she really should've been the one to protect the others anyway.
J. Jenny Jameson
2024-03-12 21:03:02 +0000 UTCNot gonna lie. Waiting a full week between part 1 and part 2 is gonna be torture! I shall endeavor to persevere.
Kevin Morris
2024-03-12 17:38:16 +0000 UTCI thought Entrapta was late-20s. Also, it’s insane to me that Frosta is supposed to be 14 (fraction amount unknown) at the end of the series, because she still looks like 10.
Jenny D
2024-03-12 16:15:49 +0000 UTCI remember seeing this a while back and going to check, and I thought it sounded more like Glimmer’s voice saying the second part. But I think it is more impactful if it is Catra saying it. I wish the subtitles would clarify that.
Jenny D
2024-03-12 16:13:03 +0000 UTCOh, I was referencing Aria Stark when she was with the faceless men in Game of Thrones. “A girl has no name.”
Jenny D
2024-03-12 16:04:18 +0000 UTCbest friend = roommate, the same as how "we're practically sisters!" means "can we kiss yet?" :D
Mahlernut
2024-03-12 13:46:49 +0000 UTCWhen cats show affection they do go for it. Just so much rubbing against Adora
Willow Arkan
2024-03-12 10:27:35 +0000 UTCBut she also has this effect when she is wrong, very intellectual dark web of her in that way. She'd be the type of person to call others hysterical when they disagree with her, actually i think she did do that at one point. Calm and confidence, an utter lack of empathy and a clear distaste for emotions other than anger or lust for power, a recipe for turning her opinions regardless of accuracy into "common sense".
Willow Arkan
2024-03-12 10:26:19 +0000 UTCIf memory serves they started around 15-18, scorpia and mermista respectively being the eldest glimmer the youngest overall. Not counting the adults, which includes the 30 something Entrapta who is just short. By the end they were all adults, with Adora and Catra around 19 or 20, not counting the still underage Frosta who ends up in her teens.
Willow Arkan
2024-03-12 10:18:08 +0000 UTCthe latter half of this episode consisted of Catra's heart being dropped in a rock tumbler.
Willow Arkan
2024-03-12 10:07:41 +0000 UTCMosco: I can't take all these sapphics who can't admit how they feel! Also Mosco: *Refuses to admit liking Catra*
James S
2024-03-12 09:17:43 +0000 UTCThe thing is that SW is very good at baiting because her being "clinical" and "detached" always makes her look like she's making sense. Since she joined the rebellion, there wasn't a single time when her advice didn't make some sense, even if we know that her motivations are incredibly selfish. Telling Glimmer to use Adora as bait back in S4 was horrible, however from a military/ strategic view, it made sense. Her mindgames were what enabled the princess alliance to catch Double Trouble. Wanting to use the heart of Etheria was something she shared with Glimmer and Mermista - even if it was for selfish reasons, the will in itself made sense. At the end of S4, she even appears more sensible than Glimmer who just barges to Scorpia to reconnect her to her runestone, SW tells her she should wait for the other princesses before making a move - yes, it was because she wanted to keep the black garnet to herself, but again, from a logical pov, she made sense. I think that's why the characters, no matter how suspicious they are of her, keep listening to her and keep being manipulated by her : because SW always makes sense. That's what makes her such a mastermind manipulator : she's able to understand the motivations of others, pretend to share them and talk from their point of view while having entirely different motivations
Azirapalala
2024-03-12 09:00:48 +0000 UTCI'm literally just Catra in her 30's, trauma sorted, living my best life, thriving, world a bit on fire, but what can ya do? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Hella hype to see the last couple reactions X3
Aerllette
2024-03-12 08:53:18 +0000 UTCThe one person who stopped her was Angella
Stephen Ray
2024-03-12 04:47:50 +0000 UTCThey're reminding us how awful and manipulative Shadow Weaver is so that we're horrified when she marries Micah and becomes Queen Weaver.
Stephen Ray
2024-03-12 04:46:38 +0000 UTCYour reaction to Adora taking the failsafe was all of our reactions to it XD
Vex Valor
2024-03-12 03:51:07 +0000 UTCCareful Mosco you're Catra's showing 😏
Catradora fan
2024-03-12 03:24:21 +0000 UTCI think part of the reason Adora hesitates when Catra asks what she wants is that... nobody ever asked her before. Not once, in the entire series. Adora doesn't even understand her own wants because she believes her wants don't really matter. Sure her friends care about her, but when it comes to She-ra risking life and limb for the greater good, everyone just assumes Adora is good with being the hero. She's always ready to jump in, and Catra is the first to ever try and stop her.
J. Jenny Jameson
2024-03-12 01:55:36 +0000 UTCAlso apparently the show takes place over 3 years? So depending on how old the cast is at the end of the series, they could've been pretty young at the beginning. Being that young just makes it even more understandable how messed up everything got, and that Catra and Adora never talked about their relationship
Cuticle
2024-03-12 01:47:31 +0000 UTCI like to think that Adora hesitates after "What do you want, Adora?" not because she can't read between the lines or because she buys in to Shadow Weaver's narrative that Catra will "distract" her, but because she's in the mindset of half expecting she's going to have to sacrifice herself to save everyone, and she doesn't want to make it any harder on Catra when that happens.
Ross Jennings
2024-03-12 01:43:48 +0000 UTCImagine if Mosco had been asked to manifest that much sympathy for Catra at the start of the season! It wouldn't have been a pleasant reaction...
Mahlernut
2024-03-12 01:35:34 +0000 UTCEagle-person. Flying would be really, really cool...
Mahlernut
2024-03-12 01:33:33 +0000 UTCThere's a really awful difference in Catra's mind between "need" and "want." Need is entirely transactional for her, and is always followed by abandonment once her purpose has been served. It might be an exaggeration objectively speaking, but I'm pretty sure that's how it feels to her. Being wanted is a very different thing, something she might not be able to remember ever feeling (not without a lot of violation of her personal space), and faced with the person she wants to be wanted by, probably the only thing she wants in the world. When Adora continues to deflect, won't respond to Catra's question, and just falls back on the word "need" instead, I can almost hear Catra's heart crack a little.
Mahlernut
2024-03-12 01:25:28 +0000 UTCBrush teeth, brush teeth, brush teeth. "Pew pew!" And then it all started going to hell...
Mahlernut
2024-03-12 01:17:29 +0000 UTCThere were Nate's post-show drawings. The "wherever these kids are, I'm sure they're up to a ridiculous amount of PDA" (or however it went exactly) one is sorta kinda like a continuation of the show...?
Mahlernut
2024-03-12 01:16:08 +0000 UTCA clone has no name...a horse with no name. There's a rewriting of that song in there somewhere...
Mahlernut
2024-03-12 01:13:50 +0000 UTCAnd though it's not at all the point of the show, a more cynically comedic one could've mined some good material out of the fact that Adora gently "urges" Catra through the fire before she follows 😅
Mahlernut
2024-03-12 01:12:38 +0000 UTCThe one thing SW had no choice but to hold back on was her tendency to physically abuse Catra. Aside from the fact that Catra's able to defend herself from more of that kind of victimization, everyone else would literally kill the hell out of her. Must be very frustrating to not have an isolated child that she can threaten to murder whenever the mood takes her!
Mahlernut
2024-03-12 01:10:18 +0000 UTCI can't imagine anyone on Etheria's had much time to develop anything resembling therapy (having been in a constant state of invasion by the Horde and all), but these four will definitely provide someone with invaluable practice...
Mahlernut
2024-03-12 01:05:28 +0000 UTCThere's not a lot of time for subtlety either. They had to really quickly get the viewer back in the mindset of how this trio interacts, and remind them of how horrible the abuse SW dumped on these kids was. She's spent long enough being not horrifyingly awful to everyone around her that a refresher was needed.
Mahlernut
2024-03-12 01:02:50 +0000 UTCShe just needs to finish driving Shadoweaver's "stop being so emotional all the time!" line out of her head.
Mahlernut
2024-03-12 01:00:15 +0000 UTCI'd be Magicat. Nyaa nyaa
Ashley Silver
2024-03-12 00:59:32 +0000 UTCThe whole "I did it to help you, because you're like me" line she spun to Catra rings even more hollow in this situation. Or maybe she's just fully manifested her self-hatred at this point, is angry that Catra's trying to change, and is just pouring it out at her (in her usual calculating way)
Mahlernut
2024-03-12 00:58:07 +0000 UTCTotally. They'd just been around each other so long that neither ever really articulated to themselves what was so important about that relationship.
Mahlernut
2024-03-12 00:54:53 +0000 UTCOh my god, can't believe I never caught that. Welp, that's one more thing to the list of things that leave me a wreck by the end of at least half the episodes of this season.
Mahlernut
2024-03-12 00:53:41 +0000 UTCShe really does find some clarity on that point, doesn't she? Never thought about how likely it is to have stemmed from this episode's interactions.
Mahlernut
2024-03-12 00:51:23 +0000 UTCAdd the snort-laugh to the smirk and you have peak Adora. All Catra can do is sit there holding Adora's leg, wondering if she ever thought she was subtle.
Mahlernut
2024-03-12 00:47:51 +0000 UTCOh god... Mosco's gone full tsundere for Catra! Edit: fixed some spelling/typos
Porpoise Power
2024-03-12 00:47:43 +0000 UTC"She's going to do it, because it's Adora. . . Don't do it! Don't Do it! Don't do it! Don't do it, don't. . ." "I'll do it." "Stop it! Why do you always have to do that? Why do you always have to. . . Why do you always have to be that person, Adora? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why?" "I love you but I hate you but I love you but I hate you. . ." It's amazing how in tune you are with Catra this show.
Tabatha Cat
2024-03-11 23:57:11 +0000 UTC"Did you just jump into fire for me?" *smirk* I think that's my favorite line in the whole series.
Tabatha Cat
2024-03-11 23:51:23 +0000 UTCI’m going to re-watch all your reactions to this series as prep for the finale 🫡
calcifer
2024-03-11 23:40:45 +0000 UTCDefinitively, she's been stuck in her own extensive trauma and only ever saw how Adora was being praised, but didn't fully consider how this apparent praise was used to ultimately hurt her. She needed to get out of her own head and reevaluate how she had been perceiving Adora, which she began on Horde Prime's ship, also both of them being together away from Shadow Weaver likely helped. It's nice to see Catra going from possessive of Adora to protective of her.
Willow Arkan
2024-03-11 23:35:08 +0000 UTCI think I would be a cat-boy. I have to many cat traits to start with.
Paul Steele
2024-03-11 23:02:38 +0000 UTCOh god I couldn't help laughing as soon as I read the description. Because I knew all too well what was going to set you off and how badly it would set you off.
James S
2024-03-11 22:00:05 +0000 UTCPunching Shadow Weaver would not have been the way to go. What I wanted was a leg sweep, plus a push to the chest to land her flat on her back, then heavily leaning a boot on her chest and a warning: "Don't you EVER speak to her like that again!"
JHB
2024-03-11 21:41:54 +0000 UTCThe question to ask is: What really motivates Shadow Weaver? Is it just power? Or is it magic itself? She's a manipulator, but manipulation is a long game. What are her priorities when a clock is ticking and a deadline looms?
JHB
2024-03-11 21:33:05 +0000 UTCIt is possible she discovered the Failsafe during season 5 (though it depends on the time-span over which season 5 takes place. If it was a short time-span, it would be highly improbable for Shadow Weaver to have had the time to find the Failsafe and figure out how it worked), but the decision to specifically raise Adora to be self-sacrificing and then Adora turns out to be She-Ra and then She-Ra turns out to be able to use the Failsafe to free the magic at the Heart of Etheria...its all too convenient for this to be a coincidence. I agree that it is likely that she discovered the failsafe long ago, probably while she was a teacher at Mystacor, and that she planned to use Adora to free the magic at the Heart of Etheria all along. There is one hint that supports this idea: The murals in the hallway that leads to the Failsafe shows the dark spell that turned Light Spinner into Shadow Weaver, which could imply that that is where Shadow Weaver learned about the dark spell.
Omegastar
2024-03-11 21:14:08 +0000 UTCWe're in the endgame now. Hamish, you services will be required. Huh... we're almost at the finale and nobody has died*. Yet. I bet your reaction to both parts of the finale will be over an hour. Each. Can't wait for you to freak out over... well, everything.
Ryan Porter
2024-03-11 21:11:48 +0000 UTCI feel the same way about Swift Wind. I began to like him when he was left behind and Adora went to space to save Glimmer, and he was looking at the sky for her each night..
Tabatha Cat
2024-03-11 20:24:56 +0000 UTCYeah, she was praising Glimmer earlier and now insulting her when she seems less interested in her.
Vilmu
2024-03-11 20:18:05 +0000 UTCLol I think Catra has always been into Adora, which is why she got so hurt/angry when (in Catra's mind) Adora chose the rebellion over her. She kinda says it in Save the Cat when she tells Adora that she "broke [her] heart"
Cuticle
2024-03-11 20:08:47 +0000 UTCI keep some of my nails long, just cause it's the closest I can get, but yeah irl I can't really stand my body hair either. Retractable claws would definitely be cool, as they are they tend to break a lot these days, since I am doing a lot of work with my hands at work atm. I just imagine she must have like slightly magical clothes, cause her outfits aren't exactly loose either. Or maybe like a full coat just reacts differently than the comparatively scattered hairs. I suppose the general lack of animals might have made a predominantly vegan diet necessary, though they do seem to have horses in good numbers. As for the horde food bars, who knows what those are or if anything living was ever associated with them, plant or otherwise, for all we know they just produce it using sci fi tech, considering hordak probably lives off of nutrient fluid.
Willow Arkan
2024-03-11 20:06:59 +0000 UTCThere is a line from Catra that sadly gets drowned out by everyone arguing: "You don't care about Adora! Adora can't even care about herself!" Catra has been so focused on her own trauma and point of view that I don't think she fully realized how badly Adora was messed up by her childhood, but now she understands.
Vilmu
2024-03-11 20:01:05 +0000 UTCOr throwing her hand if we go full TOH shenanigans.
Willow Arkan
2024-03-11 19:56:26 +0000 UTCso best friend is the new roommate? =)
Willow Arkan
2024-03-11 19:55:04 +0000 UTC*two spider-men pointing at each other meme* I literally hiss any time Shadow Weaver speaks throughout this episode, no matter how many times I’ve seen it. It’s become a reflex at this point. My biggest issues would be long nails and body hair, because irl I get physically uncomfortable when those mine get too long. However, Catra’s nails are retractable, which I think would resolve that discomfort. And if I had body hair as soft as cat fur maybe it wouldn’t bother me, although I’m not sure how Catra wears clothes without making her fur hurt from pulling it in the opposite direction direction than how it grows. I would say being a vegan would be hard as a magicat, but Catra apparently didn’t have any problem living off whatever they put in those bars in the horde, and I don’t think we ever actually see anyone confirmed to eat meat on Etheria, so I should be fine.
Jenny D
2024-03-11 19:51:36 +0000 UTCAlso know as: Fuck the world I love you, let it burn to spite you, to fuck the world i love you again and i am doing something about it this time.
Willow Arkan
2024-03-11 19:50:07 +0000 UTCBut Catra finally voices her concerns and stands up for Adora against SW's manipulation, she has been watching her and isn't afraid to call her out for Adora's sake. Finally returning the promise, not just relying on Adora always being there for her, but actually protecting Adora from SW and trying to protect her from Adora herself.
Willow Arkan
2024-03-11 19:47:23 +0000 UTCI love how blatantly obvious the queer subtext is in that comic. Like the fire princess had a "best friend" and was horrified when she found out she got a new "best friend." Like they probably weren't allowed to say it, but we all know what was going on there. Catra also seemed a bit conflicted about how she feels about Scorpia, as she blushed quite a lot, which I found interesting.
Vilmu
2024-03-11 19:45:57 +0000 UTCSpeaking about Glimmer, it's interesting that while the jab about magical skill not running in family seemed to be directed towards Castaspella, Glimmer was in the frame right behind her, so she could easily have meant both of them.
Willow Arkan
2024-03-11 19:44:56 +0000 UTCAnd just savage Catra's emotions directly or indirectly any chance she gets.
Willow Arkan
2024-03-11 19:42:46 +0000 UTCI think it also gave a better glimpse of the dynamic the 3 of them had growing up, not the singular moments we saw in flashbacks, but the casual cruelty to Catra and the constant manipulation of Adora and wielding her affection towards Catra against Adora.
Willow Arkan
2024-03-11 19:41:56 +0000 UTCI’ve always thought of Eda as what Catra would have been if she’d been raised by Madam Razz, so I imagine Eda confronting Shadow Weaver would be like Catra confronting Shadow Weaver, but ending the confrontation by hitting Shadow Weaver with a broom. Or throwing Hex Mix in her face.
Jenny D
2024-03-11 19:41:36 +0000 UTCSW did double duty with Catra, both physical and mental abuse. just remember what she did to Catra in the jail cell, building her up, making her feel good about herself probably for the first time in Catra's life, just long enough to get what she wanted and then rip it all away.
Willow Arkan
2024-03-11 19:40:08 +0000 UTCBow really is giving Willow from TOH vibes, he needs a Camilla to tell him that he should allow himself a moment from time to time.
Willow Arkan
2024-03-11 19:37:17 +0000 UTCThis episode is probably my second or third favorite, after 5x08, because it’s one of the gayest and also because we get to see some of the most prominent examples of the effects of Shadow Weaver’s abuse on Adora. The constant touching Shadow Weaver does when she’s trying to manipulate her, encouraging Adora’s unhealthy hero complex. Shadow Weaver’s effect on Catra has been clear throughout the series, but her effect on Adora has always been more subtle, so I think it’s important we get it here, as well as Catra seeing it through fresh eyes now that she’s in a more improved headspace.
Jenny D
2024-03-11 19:34:37 +0000 UTCYeah and by the end of the episode Adora finally snaps and voices what she may only finally fully come to terms with, just how much of her and Catra's lives SW has ruined.
Willow Arkan
2024-03-11 19:34:20 +0000 UTCYou mean the first few minutes of the first episode?
Willow Arkan
2024-03-11 19:32:36 +0000 UTCPayback for seasons of Catra's flirty "Hey Adora"s
Willow Arkan
2024-03-11 19:31:58 +0000 UTCCan you imagine the verbal and possibly actual smackdown Eda would give SW if she saw how she treated and manipulated what are in effect SW's adopted daughters.
Willow Arkan
2024-03-11 19:30:42 +0000 UTCI always find it funny when people get baited by SW. Like we should know by now that SW just doesn't get the emotional side of magic, let alone interpersonal relations beyond how to damage them to her ends. She treats magic very clinically and detached, so she fundamentally doesn't understand She-ra. I kinda wonder if that is a relic of how the First ones approached magic, as a tool to be used and the users emotions be damned.
Willow Arkan
2024-03-11 19:29:10 +0000 UTCYeah, that flirty smugness is quite powerful and the resulting adorable play fight with a very flustered Catra.
Willow Arkan
2024-03-11 19:25:24 +0000 UTCOh that's an idea, I thought she may have come by before meeting up with Casta.
Willow Arkan
2024-03-11 19:24:32 +0000 UTCAnd she just keeps digging herself deeper.
Willow Arkan
2024-03-11 19:23:12 +0000 UTCTruly the tragedy of the himbo lesbian and mostly reformed spiky catgirl lesbian.
Willow Arkan
2024-03-11 19:22:28 +0000 UTCI thought there was more then the fire runestone one, which was nice i guess, but just didn't really fill the hole the show left, frankly fanfiction did better work there.
Willow Arkan
2024-03-11 19:19:39 +0000 UTCI think its also that she might be letting her mask slip now that she is so close to finally obtaining what she has wanted all her life. Hell, the fact that she visited the Failsafe on her own at some point could mean she's been planning this for years or even decades. And now those plans are finally about to come to fruition, so she's starting to care less about maintaining appearances and more about making sure Adora does what she needs to do. She's always been a snide and bitter woman, its just that before this point it benefited her not to show that too much.
Omegastar
2024-03-11 19:15:56 +0000 UTCI think it’s really important for Catra to see that she wasn’t/isn’t the only person Shadow Weaver abused. She’s witnessing the verbal and emotional abuse when SW interacts with others, and this allows her to more clearly see the abuse that Adora was and is experiencing
calcifer
2024-03-11 19:13:52 +0000 UTCAs for Catra's feeling, like it's been clear that Adora has meant more to her then the rest of the world at least when she was ready to blow it all up to spite her. Like Adora is Catra's everything and I can just imagine how it's ripping her heart apart to watch Adora once again throw herself away in the hope of saving people. The juxtaposition of Adora's complete disregard for her own wellbeing and the feeling of those who care for her wellbeing and Catra to whom Adora's wellbeing means more than anything else must be eating Catra's heart alive. (Slight Bloom into You spoiler below) Funnily enough it makes me think of a line in Bloom into You, where one character says to another that she can't love someone who loves something she hates, meaning herself. Their situation is kinda reversed, where Catra struggles with her love for someone who doesn't seem to value herself much at all.
Willow Arkan
2024-03-11 19:12:43 +0000 UTCI think the reason Shadowweaver seems so much worse is that up to now we have never seen the 3 of the interact this much with each other for a prolonged amount of time. Before in the Horde she was busy with running the damn thing and Adora and Catra were training and mostly interacting with other cadets and trainers, at least on screen. We saw glimmers of their dynamic before, but most of the on screen has either been the toxic affection and support she gave to Adora and the just unrelenting emotional torture she reserved for Catra, in their 2 person dynamics once Adora left the Horde. You can imagine just how much of this, or similar, went on as the two were growing up under her "care". Like it's a small wonder Catra and Adora have such trouble with expressing emotions healthily.
Willow Arkan
2024-03-11 19:04:26 +0000 UTCI'd probably be a cat person. I already envy how flexible and agile they are (plus all the naps! 🐾)
Vilmu
2024-03-11 18:58:46 +0000 UTCThere are so many powerful lines at the end of this episode. From all the things Catra, who is openly crying, says to her. To the absolutely raw line to Shadowweaver, both deserved and accurate. Both the intensity and even slight catharsis of Adora finally vocalising what Shadow weaver has and continues to do to them both. How she can truly see just how much SW has screwed up both of their emotions to the point that Adora is afraid that her comfort, her relationship with Catra might finally be irreparably damaged, when she could use Catra the most.
Willow Arkan
2024-03-11 18:58:45 +0000 UTCMosco at 40:20 "Adora I love you, but I hate you, fuck me!" Fun fact: These are also the three stages of Catra's character arc.
Dennis
2024-03-11 18:55:38 +0000 UTCCatra saving Adora from the fire is one of my favorite moments in the show. Zero hesitation. Dives right in. Then Adora being so smug. Perfection. Both of our girls are so full of conflicting emotions right now. They are both falling back on old habits. Catra runs. Adora sacrifices everything. Trauma responses from the different ways their abusive childhoods scarred them.
Tammy Ragsdale
2024-03-11 18:54:19 +0000 UTCThere is one comic, but sadly it's not a continuation and instead happens during the early seasons timeline-wise.
Vilmu
2024-03-11 18:48:00 +0000 UTCYeah, she can act nicer and polite to manipulate people, but when she's not doing that she likes to use passive-aggressive jabs.
Vilmu
2024-03-11 18:45:02 +0000 UTCAs nice as the idea of sending shadowweaver i suspect she would burn out before any substantial amount of magic is drained from the heart. Even if lethal Adora is the only being on Aetheria now that can hold the sheer scale of the stored up magic for any substantial amount of time. As manipulative and cruel as SW is she is likely factually correct about it having to be She-ra, though her willingness to use Adora like that reinforces just how callous she is.
Willow Arkan
2024-03-11 18:42:47 +0000 UTCYup, she spent quite a lot of time around Glimmer and she was deliberately acting nicer with her.
Vilmu
2024-03-11 18:42:41 +0000 UTCEverytime Mosco goes off about "THESE USELESS SAPPHICS" is pure gold
James Parry
2024-03-11 18:39:05 +0000 UTCI think Shadow Weaver is being extra-extra because it's been a few seasons since we saw her being really bad, and some may have needed a small reminder.
Carabas
2024-03-11 18:34:43 +0000 UTCIn the ocean of despair that was this episode, let's celebrate Entrapta and Hordak's short, but adorable reunion
Azirapalala
2024-03-11 18:26:23 +0000 UTCI personally don’t think Shadow Weaver was any more hateable in this episode compared to other episodes that have all three of them interacting. I wonder if it seems that way because now that Catra is on her redemption arc she feels more sympathetic, and therefore Shadow Weaver comes off as more hateable?
Jenny D
2024-03-11 18:24:25 +0000 UTCAside from the useless sapphic disasters that are Catra and Adora, I view this episode as a way to show that Shadow Weaver has burned bridges with everyone around her. Even with Adora, her favoured ward, the powerful one she groomed to lead (and be the manipulating force behind). Not that Adora thought highly of her before, but this gave off vibes of her symbolically disowning Shadow Weaver as any sort of figure in her life. Or so I felt, anyway.
Sero
2024-03-11 18:23:57 +0000 UTCShadow weaver was physically abusive to catra she was mentally abusive to adora. from the moment adora was found SW built her up to be the destined hero so she could use her for something exactly like this make her all powerful but with a dependence on sw allowing her to pull the strings.
Luke Teasdale
2024-03-11 18:20:50 +0000 UTCAll of these kids need therapy! Adora: Self-sacrifice like that is NOT a great love language Catra: Hurting others and pushing them away before they get a chance to hurt you isn't healthy, I know you're working on it and made some progress but you're not there yet! Glimmer: That was the worst way to see your Dad in person for the first time, you're going to need to unpack that (probably sometime after the series ends) Bow: You're trying to be healthy and stable for everyone else. Take some time to scream into a pillow or something
Zen
2024-03-11 18:18:22 +0000 UTCI'd be a Catgirl or wolfgirl like catra
Animegirl
2024-03-11 18:12:41 +0000 UTCI think the reason this episode is making us hate shadow weaver is because this is how she has always been with adora and more specifically catra. Only she had all the control in the horde, she doesn't anymore and now we as the viewer are seeing just how awful she is along with adora and the other characters.
Luke Teasdale
2024-03-11 18:12:17 +0000 UTCThis episode is perhaps my favourite of the entire show. The psychology writing there equals the Promise episode, but while Promise emphasized more on Catra's abuse, this one mirrored Adora's in subtle and yet horrific ways. While SW was straight up violent and threatening to Catra in Promise, she is poisonously sweet to Adora, basically caressing her face in a motherly gesture, saying right to her face that she's sacrificing her. And the fact that SW gets under Adora's skin so easily, despite Adora claiming in season 1 (the mystacor episode) then back in season 3 that she won't be controlled by SW anymore, just shows how much SW still holds a grasp over her
Azirapalala
2024-03-11 18:11:57 +0000 UTCRemember when this was a simple, fun, happy show with no stakes and no emotional impact? Me neither.
Frank Wales
2024-03-11 18:06:57 +0000 UTCAdora just can't help flirting with Catra can she? 😂😅🤣 so playful and show offy every little thing they do like Catra saving Adora
Catradora fan
2024-03-11 18:06:54 +0000 UTCThe way Mosco’s been Catra this whole episode without even realizing it! 😹 Everyone else in this group is too optimistic and trusting for their own good sometimes. They needed the jaded skeptic in Catra to balance them out.
Jenny D
2024-03-11 18:03:32 +0000 UTCAs for what I would be in the She-ra universe, cat girl, not even a contest. Just being able to get around in trees like that alone would be worth it, but there's also the claws. Plus I already hiss when i am startled or angry.
Willow Arkan
2024-03-11 18:03:11 +0000 UTCShadow Weaver : interrupts Catra and Adora's moments Eda : there it is, Mosco's squeal of rage
Azirapalala
2024-03-11 18:01:03 +0000 UTCWill I have to wait until next 2 weeks to see all of the show or are you watching the last two at the same time?
Meganclare7
2024-03-11 18:00:16 +0000 UTCAbout wanting more, there was an actual change.org petition back in the day petitioning for a continuation of some sort for she-ra, which i dutifully signed and cajoled my brother into signing even if he didn't care about the show at all. So far we never did get an animated sequel, but there are comics.
Willow Arkan
2024-03-11 18:00:01 +0000 UTCHordak: A clone has no name.
Jenny D
2024-03-11 17:58:59 +0000 UTCAdora’s first full transformation into She-ra 2.0 was to save Catra. The show trying to create tension: Maybe Adora’s feelings for Catra are the problem? 😯 Mmhmm. We see you show. You ain’t slick.
Jenny D
2024-03-11 17:55:07 +0000 UTCIdk, I think the reason Adora hesitated before stepping into the wall of illusory fire is because she was still recovering from the fear of nearly being burned alive she experienced like ten seconds ago.
Jenny D
2024-03-11 17:52:00 +0000 UTCokay, on the Chris Pine Star Trek movie: 1) it was NOT the first movie, it was the first of the reboots 2) it was Romulans, not Klingons sorry, Star Trek fan, had to point that out
largo778 .
2024-03-11 17:48:20 +0000 UTCI’ve seen this episode so many times that I’ve forgotten how alarming it is when Adora is suddenly engulfed in flames because I’m too busy waiting for the flirting that comes after.
Jenny D
2024-03-11 17:47:59 +0000 UTCI think it’s implied that this is the entire reason Shadow Weaver raised Adora was to sacrifice her to the heart, she raised her to believe that her worth was from what she can give to others, it’s why she’s always ready to sacrifice herself even during the portal. The only reasonable time Shadow Weaver could’ve come to the failsafe is before she joined the Horde
Christopher Bouzas
2024-03-11 17:43:01 +0000 UTCYou can get mad at Shadow weaver as much as you like. She's the worst.
FaerieKim
2024-03-11 17:41:02 +0000 UTCSmug Adora is best Adora
Christopher Bouzas
2024-03-11 17:32:05 +0000 UTC23:25 that eye thing we’ve seen in the episode Light Spinner, it what turned Light Spinner into Shadow Weaver during the spell of Obtainment
Christopher Bouzas
2024-03-11 17:27:43 +0000 UTCToday’s episode features two (2) useless lesbians and a disaster bisexual!
Jenny D
2024-03-11 17:19:31 +0000 UTCMosco at 0:43 - Ooh fuck, wait, no, we’re just as much of a disaster cuz we forgot to do that. *shuts clapboard* ~Flashback~ Mosco at 0:05 - *shuts clapboard*
Jenny D
2024-03-11 17:18:26 +0000 UTCThere's nothing I can do to help, sorry.😁
Sekiro
2024-03-11 17:10:16 +0000 UTC
