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@Blackest Hippy Lol. Whatever makes you happy bro. There are no canonical japanese preferred pronouns for Yamato, so your attempt to correct me is misguided. She is canonically listed in her vivre card as female, and unlike Kiku she is not listed as being trans in her vivre card. I think it is pretty clear that she is just "acting" as Oden's gender rather than actually being trans, but you can believe what you want and refer to her how you want. I will do the same. I have no issue with people interpreting Yamato as trans... that's your personal choice, and we do not have a 100% way to know the truth. I think both sets of pronouns work for Yamato, because she acts as the character Oden (male), but evidence suggests she self identifies as female.

DiamonDust

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Blackest Hippy

The Otter Man is full of empty air with phrases that mean nothing. He regurgitates his chosen priesthood without critical thought. He assumes he knows some secret that I don't about gender ideology. I know exactly what him and his side believe. It's full of error, logical contradictions, ignorant of history, immoral, anti-human, and evil. It isn't scientific in the slightest, but he doesn't care. He believes it is because he was told it is by people paid for and bought off by captured institutions. He who has an ear, let him hear. Stay away from BS like this.

Waywatcher Fireson

Do you think gender non-conformity only emerged in the last 10 years??? And as a result of social media??? You really are closed-minded. Regular people listen when someone says they want to be called something other than what you would assume, because it is not difficult to adjust your language. It's hardly any different than someone saying they prefer to go by something other than their legal name. You just can't imagine that trans people have existed for centuries, so you hide behind your "facts" that aren't even backed up by the consensus of scientists or historians. As for Kiku, you are once again not mentioning the plethora of scenes that support her being a woman, including her outright saying it over and over. 1) Kiku very specifically puts on the mask to become Kikunojo so that she can be a samurai. 2) Yes, that is why Kiku initially dressed as a woman, but she has said later on that she has the heart of a woman. 3) No, Izo is still a man because he says he is, and he is specifically a cross-dresser, which is an important differentiation from him being a man. 4) Nobody thinks Izo is a girl because again it is made very clear that he is a cross-dresser. The fact that you keep referring to "gender propaganda" and these concepts not existing as recently as 2010 goes to show how misinformed you are. There is no propaganda. Transgender people have existed for a large chunk of human history, they just have not been accepted by most societies. And implying that they should not be accepted now because they have never been accepted to this degree is an ignorant viewpoint, considering how many groups of people have been historically marginalized and only recently gained a seat at the table. Luffy would be horribly disappointed in your refusal to accept people for who they are.

The Otter Man

@The Otter Man I don't think you realize your perception of Yamato is informed by just the last ten years of Western politics and online social media discourse (entirely funded by and promoted by one small, extreme faction of the Left and its ideologues, btw). Regular people don't see a woman's body with overt sideboobs and go "Oh, but because Yamato says 'I'm Oden' that makes her a man." Normal people go "that's a confused woman." And we call her "she" because she's a woman. It's just this simple. I don't know how to make it more clear to you. Unless "the truth of the matter" is an agenda, no, I don't have an agenda. If it is, sure, I'm trying to educate people on the whole truth of the matter. Kiku is a man and Izou's little brother. I know this is hard for people like you to hear, but it's true. Oda even went through the trouble to tell us Kiku was actually a man. That scene in Udon would have been unnecessary otherwise. These arguments are rehashed, but consider: 1) He is part of the "Akazaya Kyuu-nin Otoko" (Red Scabbard Nine Men). No, otoko is not inclusive of women. And every other member is a man. 2) He dresses like a woman, like Izou, because their father was in charge of a weird dancing troupe to make money. So he feminized his boys. They're still boys. 3) Is Izou not a man because he dresses like a woman? 4) No one thinks Izou is a girl because Izou was introduced before the gender propaganda hit critical mass. We're okay with him being a guy because it was 2010. Our culture hadn't bought the lie yet. This also applies to Ivankov, who has only recently seen retroactive translations denying his maleness (again, because of current-day politics). I still like Kiku. For his loyalty to Kin and Oden and Momo. But I'm not going to pretend Kiku is ontologically a woman. He's not. Same with Ivankov. Ivankov is beloved because of his sacrifices for Luffy and loyalty to Dragon and Kuma. But he's a male with hormone powers. He doesn't suddenly become not male. He can make his body look like a woman's. That's part of his power.

Waywatcher Fireson

I can respect different interpretations of Yamato's character, as I said before there are definitely different scenes and lines to support different interpretations. I'm not upset by people who use she/her to refer to Yamato, though I choose to do otherwise. My contention with your comments is the fact that you very clearly are trying to completely erase a part of his character to push your own agenda. As for Kiku, I am in complete disagreement with you there. Kiku is a woman, and your denial just further shows that you have a narrow worldview. And for your point on Ivankov, they quite literally are both male and female at different points and are referred to with terms associated with both, so I don't know what point you're trying to make there. You just seem bothered by queerness and gender nonconformity/ambiguity. I'm sure its from some shitty part of your upbringing, but don't try to hide behind a guise of "I'm just stating facts for no reason other than spreading factual information," when you so clearly are pushing an incomplete and inaccurate narrative.

The Otter Man

@The Otter Man "You've repeatedly said that no terms used for Yamato are male-specific." I actually haven't. I've been consistently saying Yamato is never referred to with third-person male pronouns in Japanese (the word "kare"). I have never denied Yamato's male titles (son of Kaidou/Kaidou's son, bocchan (Young Master), etc.). I disagree with the conclusions the fandom self-polices regarding these terms, presuming male identity when Yamato is clearly the bokuko, girl-raised-as-a-boy-by-an-overbearing-father trope, which the pro-trans crowd ignores for wish-fulfillment and agenda pushing. I'm ignoring the rest of your first part here, since it involves the assumption I've denied something I never have. But I will re-emphasize that your side outright rejects "Kaidou's daughter" and the female marketing in Japan because it doesn't suit your agenda. I embrace all the terms, the lack of a 3p-masc pronoun, and Oda's original intent with the character. "t's so blatantly obvious that you make these comments either as rage bait or to just blatantly erase interpretations of the character that are very well-established simply because you're scared of the idea that someone who looks like Yamato can call himself someone's son. Get your head out of your ass, go touch grass, and get some therapy." No, see this is where you can't understand the opposing side. I emphasize what I do because it's true and I want people to know that truth and dispel the pushed lies. I present the lack of 3p-masc pronouns because the translators deceive others into thinking they are there when they're not. Yamato is never referred to with kare, because she's a she, with a horribly mangled sense of identity because her abusive father raised her as a son. Oda put her on the all-female spread and has Sanji fawn over her. (Note: Sanji fawns over Kiku too, because he genuinely doesn't know Kiku is a guy. And Sanji clearly perceives Yamato as a woman as well. This is incredibly obvious during the bath scene you think will make my head explode, without merit). I don't ignore anything. I simply reject the language policing your side of the fandom does with basic, normal biology. And you try to enforce it over fiction where it matters even less. TL:DR, I will absolutely assert Yamato is a she, because she's a woman. She claims to be Oden, was raised as a boy and has male titles (and some female titles too: see Demon Princess). She bathes in the male bath, but she's still a woman. Kiku is a man who thinks he's a woman. The truth of the bath scene is Oda wanted to draw Yamato naked as a gag because of her masculine temperament. Do you refer to Ivankov as a she simply because he dresses in drag? This is why my side sees you guys as insane regarding this topic. Even the Kamabakka Ou-koku (Queer-Idiot Kingdom) has been co-opted with the trans-pushing agenda of the translators who have been rendering it as "Queendom" ever since Yamato's introduction. It's not Jou-koku. It's Ou-koku. Kingdom. Ivankov is the "King" of the Kamabakka Kingdom.

Waywatcher Fireson

It's so blatantly obvious that you make these comments either as rage bait or to just blatantly erase interpretations of the character that are very well-established simply because you're scared of the idea that someone who looks like Yamato can call himself someone's son. Get your head out of your ass, go touch grass, and get some therapy.

The Otter Man

@Waywatcher Fireson Yes actually, you've repeatedly said that no terms used for Yamato are male-specific, and when called out you say "oh but tomboys use those terms" when in reality, that would be like saying "bro" isn't a male-specific term in english because sometimes people call girls "bro." You use semantic and colloquial definitions only when it suits you. I'm not saying that Yamato is a clear portrayal of a trans man, because Oda DOES blur that line. Personally, I interpret him as being gender-nonconforming, but I also recognize that is my personal viewpoint and am open to other perspectives. But you saying that there are no implications of Yamato being referred to in the same way that men are referred to is horribly ignorant and inaccurate. It's as if you took a single instance of ambiguity in how a word is used and that is the only thing that matters to you. If that's how we interpreted every aspect of language, then words would lose their meaning altogether.

The Otter Man

I mean, that's not really the point. If someone that you loved was killed by somone, would it not make you angry just because they were already on death's door? Pedro may have blew himself up, but he only did that because he was defending the Straw Hats from Perospero. Perospero was trying to kill him anyway, and Perospero had already almost killed Chopper and Brook. Plus, Perospero is just an evil bastard to begin with so he deserves death.

DiamonDust

@Happy That scene had some good dialogue, though, I liked it. It honestly should be a big moment for Carrot since Perospero is the one she hates most. Anime gave it the respect it deserved. The only thing I disliked was Wanda just saying "nah we attack him anyway" without explaining why they were gonna use up Sulong on him when Carrot said it was against the plan. They could have just said that Marco was an essential part of the plan or something, cause it's the truth. Or that he was worth saving as a person in general.

DiamonDust

Once again, nobody asked lol

DiamonDust

"I feel like Yamato is an aesthetically pleasing character" Gee, I wonder why 😏. Jokes aside, her design is fantastic - especially the colors.

DiamonDust

@The Otter Man Is anything I've said so far untrue?

Waywatcher Fireson

I really wonder what you're gonna say when the scene near the end of the arc happens. Will you spontaneously combust? One can only hope.

The Otter Man

Once again, none of the characters in the Yamato scenes refer to her with third-person male pronouns in the Japanese.

Waywatcher Fireson

M i aint wasting my time on you

ali

It's insane how Kaido is the one that got jumped but the Akazaya are the ones lying on the floor. Also, next week !!! Finally !!!

Gita

I love how zoro doesn't even state the name of his attack, yet here i am shouting "LION SONG!" He is so clean with it! It might be my favorite attack of his. I vividly remember him using it on kuma back in the days. Next weeks episodes are going to be pretty FIRE. For the ones here who are watching this for the first time with jack, look forward to next week. You'll have a good one^^

Sceptic Llama

Perospero also lost an arm because of Pedro

الوليد

Jack really underestimated Perospero, I think he forgot that he is the eldest son and have 700m bounty

الوليد

TOEI is doing too much that long ass scene wasnt even in the manga, IN THE MANGA they come out of nowhere and perospero gets sneak attacked 😂 😂😂 JUST LIKE how Kid slamming Apoo was supposed to be a sneak attack without the 15 minutes of bulid up scenes TOEI!!!!

Happy

noone cares ali

JayElJay

He had already finished wano 🫠

ali

ngl Carrot is doing too much it's not Perospero's fault Pedro had no lifespan left and blew himself up lmao

S W

damn jack is 5 episodes away from peak piece

felix11


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