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NINETEEN EIGHTY-FOUR (1984) MOVIE REACTION!

Well now I have to read the book. But my god was this dark!

NINETEEN EIGHTY-FOUR (1984) MOVIE REACTION!

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There was some disagreement between various parties over the Eurythmics soundtrack, I seem to remember. I can't recall the ins-and-outs of it, but I've never seen this version with it included.

Captain Cardboard

Some of the bits of background music (e.g. in the dream sequences) is different from what I remember. I am wondering if there are different versions of the film with different music (perhaps for copyright reasons)?

John Cartwright

59:57 Oceania is at war with Eastasia (not Eurasia). Therefore Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia. Therefore they all have to work overtime to correct years of archive material which refer to the wrong war.

John Cartwright

44:07 orgasm = private personal emotions for individuals within small family groups; eliminating the orgasm = directing emotions towards devotion to the Party

John Cartwright

24:37 Rutherford is a thought-criminal who has fallen out of favour with the Party. Therefore he has been executed; therefore he never existed. Winston Smith’s job is to go back though the newspaper archives, remove the reference to the non-person Rutherford, and “correct” it by making it refer to a war hero called Ogilvy instead.

John Cartwright

6:06 Goldstein = Enemy of the People (=Trotsky) Big Brother = Stalin

John Cartwright

This was Richard Burton’s last movie role before he died. He was so ill and weak (dying of cancer) that when he held up his hand (how many fingers?) there was another man below screen holding up his arm because he was too weak to lift it up himself.

John Cartwright

This is a good film if you are familiar with the book. If you haven’t already read the book, there isn’t enough exposition of the premise (in the book there is an appendix which describes/introduces the structure of society). P.S. The book “Nineteen Eighty-Four” by George Orwell is literally my favourite ever novel. I have read it dozens of times. P.S. “Animal Farm” is my second favourite novel. I have read it even more times than “Nineteen-Eighty-Four”. I have counted the number of words in “Animal Farm” five times (it’s 30,198).

John Cartwright

Definitely get the book it adds so much more context. For example when you see him in the newspaper room first what they are doing is going back to old articles and changing them before destroying them to litterally change the past so the people thought they were getting 5 grams more chocolate ration and not losing 5 grams.

Arthur Goonie

A good follow up to this would be Terry Gilliam's Brazil. A more comedic dystopian future with some similarities to this.

Yaapsdad

It's like all totalitarian regimes rolled into one. Cambodia's Khmer Rouge, the children like the hitler youth of Nazi Germany and the propaganda machine, sensorship and denouncements of fellow citizens like Stalinism, North Korea and East Germany. Eric Blair was an incredibly perceptive writer particularly for his time

Yaapsdad

2 plus 2 equalling 5 isn't untrue it's just alternative facts.

Neal Murdoch

I thought this was a very disappointing adaptation.

Kickstart 1.3

Have you noticed the connection between George Orwell’s 1984 and the TV series Blackadder Goes Forth? Both works have a similar theme: we’re supposed to believe the opposite of the truth. Newspapers hype up false successes, while generals exaggerate the good news and send thousands to their deaths. If you’re against the war and want to leave, you might be shot on sight because they think you’re crazy. They won't permit a difference of opinion. Orwell knew that words, ideas, and thoughts could be manipulated, and those who disagreed could be destroyed or ‘re-programmed’ (like through torture). This idea is also common in Soviet Russia, where anyone who dared to disagree with Stalinism was accused of being insane, not just of a different opinion. Then they sent you to the gulags, which Orwell might have had in mind when he wrote 1984. We must also remember that Nazism was short for National Socialism, but the party was not socialist: it called itself that to take attention away from real socialists like the Marxist Party, which was getting a lot of attention at the time. So even the name of the Nazi Party is a deliberate lie, an element of propaganda.

Ash X

It's mad that people actually think 1984 resembles life in countries like the Britain or America. They're either incredibly retarded and genuinely need help or don't understand at all what they're reading or watching.

SomeBSName

Yeah, that delay synth when him and Julia first go to the woods, reminds me of Chariot of fire. And the funny thing is, it's slow, but it's still not that long. So nobody can say it drags on.

Joe Thornhill

I actually forgot about this but you got on it quick, after the Q.I. reaction.

Joe Thornhill

It's also happening in the UK. Don't kid yourself that the BBC don't do it. Wake up

Duncan Walker

Richard Burton Villain (1971)

Mark

now you could do Brazil by Terry Gilliam from monty python same by funny

Anthony Brown

Great documentary

Mark

Thank you for making me watch that. It was brilliant.

John Hastie

notice the guy in the lift going up to Richard Burton, its the doctor from jam

Anthony Brown

Richard Burton stars in the 1963 film Cleopatra, which would be just up your street.

Stephen Morris

When I was younger, before IMDB had every last detail on these things, I thought this shared some sets with Threads (also a movie that came out in 1984). There's a very similar grim vibe to both of them.

Alex West

Is that the one where they are breeding a bunch of hitlers? If so I haven’t seen it but my father has told me about it lol.

Brian Moran

Thanks for doing this one, I’ve not read the book either and struggle with a lot of slower films, tbh if I was watching this by myself I’d probably have turned it off after 10 mins if you’d not been helping it along, turns out it was a great movie

Chug

lol wut?

Brian Moran

This is modern America, Bush told you who the baddies were, Trump tells you lies. What you saw on TV was propaganda. You see images of war and little else. Are you the goodies or the baddies?? Shocking to see women with pubes, the society eradicated them, for no reason, claiming women were clean without pubes.

Dave Roberts

Try "Brazil", directed by Terry Gilliam, it is an alternate take on 1984. Highly recommended!

John Dawber

We have to remember that elements of this brutal regime, of constant propaganda, exists in various states today. In North Korea, a radio is installed in almost every home, which broadcasts government propaganda 24/7: you can turn the volume a bit, but you cannot switch it off. 1984 is not history, and Orwell didn't intend it to be a prediction, but as a warning of how humanity can be erased if we are not vigilant about truth and lies.

Ash X

Can you actually justify that incredibly insane comment or do you just think it sounds good?

Jamie

Was excited to see this notification pop up. Great choice, Boomer. ..Threads next. 😉 ..A film we were made to watch at school in the eighties and nineties. Educational material or western anti Russian propaganda? You decide. 🤔

Martyn Dawson

Imagine not knowing who Richard Burton is.

Dave Roberts

Ah, the 2024 UK Labour Party's reference book. No good 'globalist' should leave home without it. Always good to see and hear Richard Burton, his last role ?

Fordy7169

One of the only books I enjoyed reading, decent movie to go with it

Matt

That was a thicker bush than George W.

Colin R

Loved it. So depressing. lol

John Hastie

The book is brilliant (my favourite novel!). The film did a really good job of recreating the world of 1984. The book provides more insight into the thought processes and internal struggles of Winston, so definitely worth reading even if you know the plot now. And for gods sake, let’s not allow anyone to do a Marvel or Disney remake of this!

AdamMcAdamface

Threads .... brrrr! He'll be waking up Queen Boomer in the middle of the night screaming from the nightmares! The most traumatic movie in history. The Day After is no picnic, but the difference is like that between watching a video nasty and an actual murder!

James Forrest

We all thought we’d dodged a bullet when we didn’t get Corbyn in 2019, if only we knew 😂.

Joe Wilson

This is a great film. The book is utterly brilliant. Orwell is one of my favourite authors. This is probably one of my most re-read books. I highly reccomend it. It's brilliant - just for the essay on Newspeak alone. Other books of his that are really worth reading are Homage to Catalonia about his direct experiences fighting the fascists in the Spanish Civil War. The interference from the communists in Moscow and the subsequent sabotaging of the uprising was a direct influence on 1984. He was inspired to write 1984 as a warning against a totalitarian dictatorship and the chilling way he felt Soviet Society was run. He was a committed socialist, anti-facist but also deeply anti authoritarian. His other works are equally illuminating - particularly Dowh and Out in London & Paris about his experiences working in kitchens in the two cities and being homeless as well as The Road To Wigan Pier - his catalogue of the abject poverty in working class families in the North. Stunning mind and a brilliant writer. If you want another dark dystopian film I highly recommend Threads. Possibly one of the most disturbing films you'll ever see. Not in a weird gross slasher way - just its realistic and brutal depiction of the aftermath of Nuclear Conflict. Similar to The Day After - but much darker. Gritty British realism in one uncomfortable package. Great choice. One of my favourites. I shall be watching this tonight.

Duncan Hart

Starmer's Britain.

Natalie

This is definitely one of those cases where the book is better than the movie.

Michael K

oh good choice of movie !! you can watch the movie first because the book will go into deep detail and you will understand so much more.. our english teacher was obsessed with eurythmics (they did a song called sex crime) and annie lennox so she made us watch this lol.. she made us read it after

Markos

If you want to *completely* terrify yourself. Seek out "Threads" coincidentally made in 1984

Dryfesands

Also, this subject was sort of touched on, in the second ever episode of Black Mirrror (a show I recommend, if you can handle shows with darker themes). An episode called Fifteen Million Merits. It's an anthology show, so each episode is a stand alone, mini movie, for anyone interested in checking that out.

ThetaSigmaTheOriginal

By way of a little context; Winston works for The Ministry of Truth. That job you see him doing every now and again; he's basically falsifying the past so that it seems as though the party is always right. His job is to completely erase any instance where they have been wrong about something. The chocolate ration is falling from 30 to 25 grams; his job is to make it seem as though it's going up. Rutherford is a traitor, but the party had honoured him previously. Therefore he is erased from history and Ogilvie is created to take his place ... The Ministry of Truth is basically the Ministry of Re-Writing The Past. Of lies. Just as the Ministry of Love is where they torture people.

James Forrest

Good film. There's also a quality 1954 BBC TV adaptation as well.

Joshua

Slightly related, but quite different. Have you seen Jojo Rabbit? It follows a similar thread about someone (a Nazi youth) who's fully indoctrinated into a system, and is then disillusioned by it. It's one of the most "international" films I've seen. A cast that's British, Australian, American and Kiwi. Filmed in Europe. Written and directed by a Australian. And it's a comedy set during World War II Germany.

ThetaSigmaTheOriginal

Excellent movie, and a warning. But we went and did it anyway. Looking forward to the reaction. Hope you, and yours are all well. :)

ThetaSigmaTheOriginal

Def had my fill of 1984 these last few days haha

Craig McCulloch

Solid adaptation of one of the greatest and most important books ever written. Orwell's prescience continues to amaze. If you want to buy yourself in great British actors in overlooked movies can I recommend "The Day Of The Jackal" goes on your list (the 1973 version, not any of the awful remakes).

Dryfesands

it's funny how in this john hurt plays the guy on the run and in V for Vendetta he plays the man in charge of the reigme

Leo Stewart-Smith

Amazed at the quality of the movies you are doing mate. Some stormers. A lot of people play it safe with film reactions but you've done some crackers. This is a great film with stellar performances all round. And yeah, you must read the book. It's a pretty good version I have to say.

James Forrest


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