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Hero Me Gen7 Release 3 - SUPERSEDED

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Release 3 contains 55 New STLs and 36 Updated STLs.

Hero Me Gen7 now supports over 90 3D printer models, 31 hotends, 32 extruders, 14 ABL sensors. 9 accelerometers, & 6 fans. Now OVER 19 BILLION possible 3D printer setups! Never fear, the Gen7 is a breeze for part selection.

Download  the Attached ZIP containing organized folders with all the Hero Me Gen7 Release 3 STLs, including Read Me and Change Log.

Support Added for five 3D Printers/X Carriages:

New Extruders Supported:

New Hotends Supported:

New Part Cooling Ducts:

New Extras:

Updated Gantry Adapters

Updated Hotends and Skirts

Updated Extruder Mounts

Updated Part Cooling Ducts

Updated Extra

Hero Me Patrons have exclusive access to this release for 30 days before it will be posted on April 21st to Printables.com and other STL libraries.

Download  the Attached ZIP Below!

Hero Me Gen7 Release 3 - SUPERSEDED

Comments

Both models have their own named Gantry Adapter STLs (even though the X carriages are otherwise identical) to make it easier for owners of each to easily find the one they need. Your hotend size issue is answered in your other post.

Andrew Soderberg

I am sorry, the Hero Me Gen7 does not support the stock hotend of the Ender 3 V2 Neo printer because the hotend heat sink, as you point out, is too wide. A Hero Me Gen7 upgrade on that printer model can only be used when choosing to switch to any of the 31 other hotends that are supported. The Ender 3 V2 Neo hotend is not listed in the hotend compatibility list that is included in the documentation. I am sorry that I did not specifically document a list of the very small subset of otherwise compatible 3D printer models where the stock hotend is not compatible. I will add this info to the Hero Me documentation. I will also better define the hotend 'Creality Stock (2 screw mount)' as the original found on other Creality printers like the Ender 3, Pro, V2, CR-10, CR-10S. I will also add that the max width of any hotend that could be supported in the Hero Me Gen7 as 26.5mm. I'm sorry that your time has been wasted if you don't intend to replace that hotend.

Andrew Soderberg

The stock heat sync for the hotend is 37.95mm and my printed base has a cavity of 26.51mm

Jack Dixon

So I figured out which to use, based on the files you sent and some research I did…the Ender 3 v2 Neo and the Ender 3 Neo have the same gantry, the issue I am now having is that the hot end heat sync doesn’t fit in your base’ cavity. :( I knew this was going too easily.

Jack Dixon

Jack, Here is an Imgur link to all my Ender 3 family x carriages and Hero Me Gen7.3 https://imgur.com/a/EXKufvq Gantry Adapters and how they mount. If you does not match any of these, then Creality has again changed what they are using mid-production cycle and I will need a photograph and calipered measurements (as described in my previous reply) in order to create a yet another Ender 3 something Gantry Adapter.

Andrew Soderberg

so can you share the tech drawing you have for you're Ender 3, Ender 3 Max and the v2? I can't image the being that much different, but I printed the gantry adapter you have in your zip file for the 3-Pro and don't see how it would attach. Are their install videos per model, maybe I am missing something

Jack Dixon

That's a new one for me. I don't know what is different (if anything) from the Ender 3 or the Ender 3 V2 Neo. You will likely have to print both Gantry Adapters and test fit them. I will have to look for a STEP or STL of that X carriage. If it is not available, and you find there is a different mount position, then I will need calipered measurements of the layout of that X carriage and the center to center and center to two sides of each mount point. Here is and example of what I would need (if it comes to that). https://imgur.com/a/iNMw5XG Please let me know if one of the existing Gantry Adapters works so that I can update my docs and files. Thanks.

Andrew Soderberg

Yes, I describe it the documentation that with Dual 5015 fans (4020 and 5020 as well), you only need to set the power to 40-50%. Even this lower speed will give you 3X the airflow than stock fans, and the laminar airflow going to the right place below the nozzle. The added benefit is that they run whisper quiet! When you have extreme overhangs or long bridges, set the power to 65-75%.

Andrew Soderberg

The Hotend and extruder have their own mounts, and then they are stacked together. You will want to dry fit them and then measure the length of PTFE you need to go from inside the hotend, through the hotend mount (6mm), then through the extruder mount (6mm), and finally into the Extruder. The BMG clone extruder needs to have a spacer collar placed inside. This is to keep the short PTFE tube centered. The Bondtech version comes with one for Bowden used). If you do not have that, there are STLs in the Options folder you can print and find one that fits. HMG7 BMG PTFE Collar Insert A.stl HMG7 BMG PTFE Collar Insert B.stl HMG7 BMG PTFE Collar Insert C.stl

Andrew Soderberg

When you have a BLV linear rail mod on an Ender 3, from the Hero Me perspective it is now a "BLV 3D printer". So you want the BLV Gantry Adapter. The TriangleLab Dual Drive extruder is a clone of the Bondtech BMG, so you want the BMG mount. The TriangleLab Dragon hotend is a clone of the Phaetus Dragon, so you want the hotend mount for that. Below is your STL print list. Once you look at the filenames you'll see they are pretty descriptive of the parts you need (note that you would have to know (or search) that the TriangleLab Dual Drive extruder is a clone of the Bondtech BMG). There are two versions of the BLV X carriage, so you will to print these two to see which one fits yours. HMG7 BLV Ender Gantry Adapter A.stl HMG7 BLV Ender Gantry Adapter B.stl Then these: HMG7.2 Universal Base V2.stl HMG7.3 TriangleLab Dragon Clone Screw Mount.stl HMG7.3 TriangleLab Dragon Clone Skirt.stl Then one of these two, depending on where you want the stepper motor (front or rear): HMG7 Bondtech BMG BMG-M Front Mount.stl HMG7 Bondtech BMG BMG-M Rear Mount V3.stl and finally, these: HMG7.3 Standard Single 5015 Left Duct V3.stl HMG7.3 Standard Single 5015 Right Duct V3.stl HMG7 BL-CR Touch Compact Left Wing.stl HMG7.2 BLTouch Compact Left Mount V2.stl HMG7.2 Cable Tower Medium Right 5mm.stl HMG7.3 LED Curved Bar Lightweight 5015 Ducts V3.stl HMG7 Lightweight Fan Guard V2.stl

Andrew Soderberg

If I have an Ender 3 Neo (not v2), do I just follow the 3-Pro files structure and just add the CR-Touch mount?

Jack Dixon

Just finished making this for my Ender 5+, with the dual fan setup, and it was causing thermal shutdowns of the extruder, it was cooling too much! Had to dial back my settings. Works great now!

RookFett

Thank you Andrew for your reply. I printed all the parts but i don't understood if my hothend and my extruder must be connected before mounting HMG7 or must be separated (because DDE have a collar in which hotend coupling fits). Have a good day and see you when you'll be back

Giuseppe Grisolia

When you have a BLV linear rail mod on an Ender, from the Hero Me perspective it is now a BLV. So you want the BLV Gantry Adapter. The TriangleLab Dual Drive extruder is a clone of the Bondtech BMG, so you want the BMG mount. The TriangleLab Dragon hotend is a clone of the Phaetus Dragon, so you want the hotend mount for that. I am away from my office till later today. If you don’t find all the STLs you need, I can help then.

Andrew Soderberg

Sorry Andrew, could you please help me to find right STLs to choose for my configuration? Ender 3 with BLV linear rail mod., Triangle Lab Dual Drive Extruder and Triangle Lab Dragon Hotend, dual 5015, dual fanduct, 12mm diam. capacitive bltouch, curved LED and cable tower. I hope to read you soon... i'm very anxious to mount my HMG7.3. Thank you

Giuseppe Grisolia

Thanks so much!

LordOfCinder1111

No stand-off is used. For a stock hotend or other two screw hotend, it is attached only to its mount. It does not connect through to the X carriage mount points.

Andrew Soderberg

I have the “Ender 3”, I have printed all the parts I believe, but I see a stand-off file for Ender 3 but your video doesn’t show a stand-off needed

LordOfCinder1111

Thanks for the reply

TheZeanon

Which Ender 3 do you have there are 5 different Ender 3 variants: 3, 3 Pro, 3 V2, 3 V2 Neo, 3 Max. All Hero Me Gen7 Bases need to have a Gantry Adapter to connect to the printer's X carriage. Note, the files that have 'Ender3-Pro' cover both the Ender 3 and the Ender 3 Pro as their X carriages are identical. The Ender 3 and Pro also require the Gantry Clip STL to provide the 3rd mount point.

Andrew Soderberg

The CR-10 and CR-10S use the exact same X carriage as the Ender 3 and Ender 3 Pro. The Gantry Clip you want is: HMG7 Ender 3-Pro Gantry Adapter.stl. I will add a copy of that STL named for the CR-10-S.

Andrew Soderberg

Yes, I am working to release an update to the assembly guide this weekend.

Andrew Soderberg

Yes, I can. I understand the concept of what you want, but no the specifics of which position point you are referring to. Can you send me a picture here: mediaman3d@gmail.com

Andrew Soderberg

Repeat this mantra: I need less supports than I think I need. Well placed, but sparse supports are the way to go. If your slicer supports in, use 'tree' supports. Never let supports get placed inside the duct, you will never get them out completely and it will disrupt the laminar air flow the duct is shaped to create.

Andrew Soderberg

If your Hero Me is working well, then there is no need. Should you find an issue in the future, definitely reprint the latest versions.

Andrew Soderberg

hello, is there any need for a standoff with the HMG7? I have an ender 3 and none of the standoffs I see will work with the hotend mount?

LordOfCinder1111

Hello, could not find a gantry clip for this adapter: HMG7 CR-10-10S Gantry Adapter.stl Any suggestions?..

Dmit2k

is it worth to reprint the new hotend mount if my base has not warped or anything?(point is I also have a custom led mount and a custom gantry adapter with an integrated klicky mount which I would have to redo as well)

TheZeanon

Hi Andrew, I downloaded your HMG 7 rel.4 zip file but i noticed that your pdf "part selection and assembly guide" has last update in nov.22. Is there an updated version of assembly guide updated to HMG 7 rel.3?

Giuseppe Grisolia

The Hero Me Magnet files are on the Discord server. Not all printers are yet supported (the most common ones are).

Andrew Soderberg

Message sent with invite link

Andrew Soderberg

Yes, the heat blocks were too close to the Skirt and the Base. This also lines up the heat sink fan with the heat sink cooling zone.

Andrew Soderberg

The Mini would have trouble with the part cooling ducts: you have almost zero clearance to the sides to work with, especially on the right.

Koz Ross

I have a question concerning the use of magnets for the fans. I thought I saw where this path was being taken but I cannot find it. The Hero Me apparatus is great and I love it! However if I need to get into the hot-end for a reason or pull out the bowden tube, it can become painful. I have some awesome neodyium magnets that would work in holding everything in place. My concern is has this been tried before? If it did not work, I would like the feedback.

K4rm4

Hey, I messaged at the beginning to be readded to the Discord but it has yet to happen, what‘s going on?

Willows

I've put together an Elegoo Neptune 3 Pro Hero Me with the adapter plate. It fits very nicely, but there's one downside. The gantry adapter screws to the universal upright base, but the PCB is held in place by through screws. This makes it a bit difficult to mount: you essentially need three hands. It would be better if the PCB could connect to the adapter plate directly: there's a screw in its middle that could be used for this, but the adapter plate has an empty space behind that screw hole. Would it be possible to get an adapter plate that has a hole to screw into there? I'm happy to provide measurements if needed: I don't think the Elegoo repo here has exact measurements for the PCB: https://github.com/elegooofficial/neptune3pro

Koz Ross

Same, it took me several tries to get the supports to come off. Might be because my petg is particularly gooey, but it's nice to see that they'll be easier in the future.

rei

I've tried out the stand, and it's been incredibly useful - thank you for making it! Would it be possible for you to make a 'stand plate' (like, the big flat part) with holes similar to those that would connect the Neptune 3 Pro adapter to the X carriage? The context is that I'm about to wire mine, but I can't use the stand if I have the adapter attached (and the PCB). EDIT: Just realized that, due to how the screws connect the PCB, the gantry adapter and the rest of the Hero Me, I can do my wiring on the stand no problem. Thank you for such a useful design!

Koz Ross

I used to have some part cooling ducts that had thick mount points to place the inserts, but that required long M3 screws, and one side was always hard to attach.I have opted to recommend putting the inserts into the fan's mount holes then just use short M3 6mm screws through the fan mount points into the fan. Works great and easy to attach and remove.

Andrew Soderberg

Yes, I can. Please do send a couple pictures so I have a better understanding of the specifics. Send them to me here: mediaman3d@gmail.com

Andrew Soderberg

I swear I saw pictures somewhere of part cooling ducts that allowed inserts vs using a screw and nut. Or am I imagining things?

Chris Keller

Thanks for this! The new bottom linear rail belt bracket solves a problem I've been having with the V2.1. I still have another issue, though, which is that, because my MGN-12H rail is made to have the carriage mounted to the top of the rail on top of some rather thick risers, the bottom belt ends up colliding with the X extrusion. If it isn't too much to ask, would you be able to make a linear rail adapter that has the bottom belt screws several millimeters lower? I can provide pictures if it helps.

rei

OK, thank you for answering...

sloter

oh if the fans are easier to print that would be nice!!! I had a little bit of a tough time printing them even with the new prusaslicer organic tree thing they just came out with. Mostly the connector parts that attach to base.

Brian Voelker

If you have Gen7 Release 2 part cooling ducts now and they fit fine then no need to reprint. These are easier to print, smoother duct interior, and better fan fitment. If you have older Hero Me part cooling ducts then it would be worth it (especially if you have Gen6 ducts, as these are much better cooling).

Andrew Soderberg

How they been improved, do they have better cooling, or is it just fitment/weight savings?

William

If you are using a Hero Me Gen7 setup, the 5015 part cooling ducts are improved that are worth reprinting. There are a lot of 'fitment' improvements on STLs, but If you are using Gen6 or older, everything is greatly improved and I would highly recommend upgrading to Gen7. The other changes are adding support for printers and components that were not supported before. Stay tuned for an announcement I will be making this Friday or Saturday at the latest.

Andrew Soderberg

I have not had a request for the Prusa Mini yet. I will have to see how different that is from the RepRap i3 - Prusa Gantry Adapter that is in the collection currently.

Andrew Soderberg

It is there, missed adding that in the update info above. Thanks for spotting that.

Andrew Soderberg

Nice job! I would be curious if there were fundamental changes that were made that would encourage people with previous versions to upgrade.

Brian Voelker

is there a reason why the Rapido mounts are so much longer now?

TheZeanon

Hello, i am looking for a good cooling duct for my prusa Mini, but i can't find anything in the herome Suite for prusa printers. Are they Not supported ?

sloter

Thank you so much for this release! I'm a bit surprised to not see the Neptune 3 Pro adapter that you made for me in this release: it fits well, and could definitely benefit lots of other folks besides me.

Koz Ross


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